Mixed response to ward boundary proposals for Darlington Borough Council

The Northern Echo: The draft ward boundaries for Darlington Borough Council as proposed by the Boundary Commission The draft ward boundaries for Darlington Borough Council as proposed by the Boundary Commission

NEW proposals that could see radical changes to electoral ward boundaries in Darlington have received a mixed response from councillors ahead of public consultation.

The Boundary Commission has taken ideas from two different proposals to create a draft electoral map of Darlington in order to reduce the number of councillors to 50 from 2015.

Bill Dixon, leader of Darlington Borough Council, whose Labour group submitted a joint proposal with the Conservatives, accused the independent body of dividing communities for the sake of saving others and urged people to have their say on the plans.

The Liberal Democrat group also submitted a proposal - previously dismissed by the Labour group as “inept gerrymandering” – which has heavily influenced the draft electoral map.

Councillor Joe Kelley, who submitted the Lib Dem proposal, said he was delighted with the draft layout and that it showed that his group was right to get involved with the process.

The draft electoral map suggests the borough of Darlington is divided into 20 wards – ten two member wards and 10 with three, with each councillor representing roughly 1,600 people.

Although parts of the electoral map remain similar to the existing layout, there are major changes proposed for the east and north east of the town and for rural areas of the borough.

Coun Dixon said he was confused at the proposed Red Hall and Lingfield ward, which he said did not make any sense as the two areas are divided by a busy bypass.

He added: “We are going to be looking at this closely and we would urge people to take part in the next stage of consultation.

“They have taken on some of the proposals from the Lib Dems and I stand by my claim that their plan is inept gerrymandering.

“I have a number of questions for the Boundary Commission about how they came up with these proposals – they have done very strange things to Faverdale, Harrowgate Hill and the rural wards just to save North Road.”

Coun Kelley said the Lib Dems were hopeful that the proposed changes would invigorate local politics and encourage people to stand for election in 2015.

He said: “The Labour/Conservative proposal had a lot of arbitrarily drawn boundaries while we were more interested in communities – the Boundary Commission agreed with us in creating Whinfield, Haughton and Cockerton wards.”

The draft proposal is open to public consultation until May 20 – people are invited to comment at lgbce.org.uk or email reviews@lgbce.org.uk The full report on the proposals can be found at lgbce.org.uk/all-reviews/north-east/durham/darlington-fer

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9:32am Tue 18 Mar 14

miketually says...

You need to add the www. to the above web address for it to work.
You need to add the www. to the above web address for it to work. miketually
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10:36am Tue 18 Mar 14

miketually says...

"Coun Dixon said he was confused at the proposed Red Hall and Lingfield ward, which he said did not make any sense as the two areas are divided by a busy bypass."

It's hardly busy, and it's not a bypass. There are several crossing points for pedestrians.

Red Hall is currently part of the Haughton East ward, from which it's divided by a river with only one crossing point within the ward.
"Coun Dixon said he was confused at the proposed Red Hall and Lingfield ward, which he said did not make any sense as the two areas are divided by a busy bypass." It's hardly busy, and it's not a bypass. There are several crossing points for pedestrians. Red Hall is currently part of the Haughton East ward, from which it's divided by a river with only one crossing point within the ward. miketually
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10:44am Tue 18 Mar 14

Alan Macnab says...

'Inept gerrymandering.' How dare Bill Dixon say that. The Liberal Democrats drew up our proposals because we were excluded by the Labour and Conservative Groups from their discussions on the ward boundaries. That is a fact. The Labour leadership said in Council in December that we were not fit to play with the big boys and so they excluded us.

The 'inept gerrymandering' as Dixon calls it was accepted by the Boundary Commission as being fair. The Boundary Commission are an independent, well respected, body of experts in boundary reviews to ensure there is fairness in terms of equal or near equal population sizes between wards to ensure proper representation.
'Inept gerrymandering.' How dare Bill Dixon say that. The Liberal Democrats drew up our proposals because we were excluded by the Labour and Conservative Groups from their discussions on the ward boundaries. That is a fact. The Labour leadership said in Council in December that we were not fit to play with the big boys and so they excluded us. The 'inept gerrymandering' as Dixon calls it was accepted by the Boundary Commission as being fair. The Boundary Commission are an independent, well respected, body of experts in boundary reviews to ensure there is fairness in terms of equal or near equal population sizes between wards to ensure proper representation. Alan Macnab
  • Score: 11

10:46am Tue 18 Mar 14

Alan Macnab says...

Well put Mike.
Well put Mike. Alan Macnab
  • Score: 5

11:06am Tue 18 Mar 14

darloboss says...

The Labour leadership said in Council in December that we were not fit to play with the big boys

agreed
The Labour leadership said in Council in December that we were not fit to play with the big boys agreed darloboss
  • Score: 0

11:06am Tue 18 Mar 14

Darloresident says...

miketually wrote:
"Coun Dixon said he was confused at the proposed Red Hall and Lingfield ward, which he said did not make any sense as the two areas are divided by a busy bypass."

It's hardly busy, and it's not a bypass. There are several crossing points for pedestrians.

Red Hall is currently part of the Haughton East ward, from which it's divided by a river with only one crossing point within the ward.
Yet another example of Puffing Billy making statements that are not fact (remember he said on TV Thomsons pulled out of Teesside Airport because of lack of passengers. Thomsons refuted that and said it was the Airport who did not want them)
He really needs to stop twisting facts to prove his arguments - otherwise the electorate just might start to think he is at best unreliable or at worst untruthful.
Personally I just think he is the worst leader this council has ever had and I hope to goodness he loses his seat at the next local elections.
[quote][p][bold]miketually[/bold] wrote: "Coun Dixon said he was confused at the proposed Red Hall and Lingfield ward, which he said did not make any sense as the two areas are divided by a busy bypass." It's hardly busy, and it's not a bypass. There are several crossing points for pedestrians. Red Hall is currently part of the Haughton East ward, from which it's divided by a river with only one crossing point within the ward.[/p][/quote]Yet another example of Puffing Billy making statements that are not fact (remember he said on TV Thomsons pulled out of Teesside Airport because of lack of passengers. Thomsons refuted that and said it was the Airport who did not want them) He really needs to stop twisting facts to prove his arguments - otherwise the electorate just might start to think he is at best unreliable or at worst untruthful. Personally I just think he is the worst leader this council has ever had and I hope to goodness he loses his seat at the next local elections. Darloresident
  • Score: 24

11:17am Tue 18 Mar 14

Alan Macnab says...

Darloboss. Who are you? What do you mean by that statement?
Darloboss. Who are you? What do you mean by that statement? Alan Macnab
  • Score: 0

12:20pm Tue 18 Mar 14

pager11 says...

I laughed at bill dixons comments "gerrymandering", no doubt he thinks all the residents of darlington do this when they are complaining of his gypsy friends.
I laughed at bill dixons comments "gerrymandering", no doubt he thinks all the residents of darlington do this when they are complaining of his gypsy friends. pager11
  • Score: 19

1:09pm Tue 18 Mar 14

Homshaw1 says...

Too often Mr Dixon comes out with inaccurate and ill judged remarks which shows a lack of respect for other people and their opinions.
Too often Mr Dixon comes out with inaccurate and ill judged remarks which shows a lack of respect for other people and their opinions. Homshaw1
  • Score: 12

1:50pm Tue 18 Mar 14

Quaker Boy says...

Who really cares about this? It's not the most pressing matter in the world.
Who really cares about this? It's not the most pressing matter in the world. Quaker Boy
  • Score: 2

2:23pm Tue 18 Mar 14

laughingboy51 says...

Its only apathy by Darlington voters that these 'Gerrymanderers' keep getting re-elected.

They won't want to get of the Gravy Train
Its only apathy by Darlington voters that these 'Gerrymanderers' keep getting re-elected. They won't want to get of the Gravy Train laughingboy51
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2:55pm Tue 18 Mar 14

miketually says...

Some people need to look up what gerrymandering means - it doesn't mean complaining or whinging, it means deliberately selecting electoral boundaries so that you are more likely to win elections.
Some people need to look up what gerrymandering means - it doesn't mean complaining or whinging, it means deliberately selecting electoral boundaries so that you are more likely to win elections. miketually
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3:41pm Tue 18 Mar 14

Alan Macnab says...

After Governor Gerry of Massachusetts who shaped the boundary of part or all of the state to look like a salamander to gain him an electoral advantage.
After Governor Gerry of Massachusetts who shaped the boundary of part or all of the state to look like a salamander to gain him an electoral advantage. Alan Macnab
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3:47pm Tue 18 Mar 14

Luther95 says...

Alan Macnab wrote:
After Governor Gerry of Massachusetts who shaped the boundary of part or all of the state to look like a salamander to gain him an electoral advantage.
A bit like beginning the electoral map of the town with a 3-member North Road ward, simply to keep up the number of Lib Dem councillors on the authority?
[quote][p][bold]Alan Macnab[/bold] wrote: After Governor Gerry of Massachusetts who shaped the boundary of part or all of the state to look like a salamander to gain him an electoral advantage.[/p][/quote]A bit like beginning the electoral map of the town with a 3-member North Road ward, simply to keep up the number of Lib Dem councillors on the authority? Luther95
  • Score: -1

4:13pm Tue 18 Mar 14

Alan Macnab says...

i do wish some people would publish their real names when they post on here.
i do wish some people would publish their real names when they post on here. Alan Macnab
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4:52pm Tue 18 Mar 14

loan_star says...

There should be a maximum of 2 councillors per ward and it could easily be reduced to 10 wards as follows :-

Bank Top / Eastbourne
Albert Hill / Red Hall & Lingfield
Haughton / Whinfield / Saberge & MSG
North Road / Harrogate Hill
Northgate / Pierremont
Park East / Park West / College
Hummersknott / Mowden / Cockerton
Faverdale / Heighington & Coniscliffe

Think of how much DBC could save, even if it meant paying the remaining councillors more for their time.
There should be a maximum of 2 councillors per ward and it could easily be reduced to 10 wards as follows :- Bank Top / Eastbourne Albert Hill / Red Hall & Lingfield Haughton / Whinfield / Saberge & MSG North Road / Harrogate Hill Northgate / Pierremont Park East / Park West / College Hummersknott / Mowden / Cockerton Faverdale / Heighington & Coniscliffe Think of how much DBC could save, even if it meant paying the remaining councillors more for their time. loan_star
  • Score: 2

4:52pm Tue 18 Mar 14

loan_star says...

In fact I reduced to 8 lol :)
In fact I reduced to 8 lol :) loan_star
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6:00pm Tue 18 Mar 14

Spy Boy says...

Luther95 wrote:
Alan Macnab wrote:
After Governor Gerry of Massachusetts who shaped the boundary of part or all of the state to look like a salamander to gain him an electoral advantage.
A bit like beginning the electoral map of the town with a 3-member North Road ward, simply to keep up the number of Lib Dem councillors on the authority?
The Lib Dems and all the others do not set their boundaries. I would hate Bill Dixon setting boundaries. You could guarantee Labour would increase and the others would be hit. I would vote Labour, but never in Darlington. If Bill Dixon is a Socialist, I'm a large salamander called Kevin. The guy is a joke and I have no confidence in anything he and his self serving colleagues do. They are wrecking the town and we are letting them. Next year you should vote tactically and get the whole rotten bunch out.

If you read Private Eye, you will see Dixon and Burns Darlington under Rotten Boroughs. They are fast becoming a big joke.
[quote][p][bold]Luther95[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alan Macnab[/bold] wrote: After Governor Gerry of Massachusetts who shaped the boundary of part or all of the state to look like a salamander to gain him an electoral advantage.[/p][/quote]A bit like beginning the electoral map of the town with a 3-member North Road ward, simply to keep up the number of Lib Dem councillors on the authority?[/p][/quote]The Lib Dems and all the others do not set their boundaries. I would hate Bill Dixon setting boundaries. You could guarantee Labour would increase and the others would be hit. I would vote Labour, but never in Darlington. If Bill Dixon is a Socialist, I'm a large salamander called Kevin. The guy is a joke and I have no confidence in anything he and his self serving colleagues do. They are wrecking the town and we are letting them. Next year you should vote tactically and get the whole rotten bunch out. If you read Private Eye, you will see Dixon and Burns Darlington under Rotten Boroughs. They are fast becoming a big joke. Spy Boy
  • Score: 9

7:01pm Tue 18 Mar 14

pensioner2 says...

Its interesting that the labour voting wards -with mainly council housing (such as cockerton, banktop, park east, eastbourne, haughton, north road) each have 3 councillors while private housing wards (mowden, colledge, hummersknott, park west, whinfield) only have 2. There are just a couple of exceptions the every expanding faverdale has 3, and the largest surface area of the inner boundries (with the exceptions of Hurworth, Heighington/Conniscl
iffe and the Sadberge/Middleton st george (which of course have their own parish councils) and harrogate hill to keep the liberals happy. Gerrymandering to keep uncle bill and his labour chums in power rather than a fair and true splitting of wards so that each councillor has to work for his electorate rather than his "party" which would give the TOWN OF DARLINGTON a better council rather than the labour party another town to control. And no i am not a tory supporter either, especially not of the national government, but neither do labour fill me with joy either- especially not bill and his cronies. I firmly believe the town would be better off without him and his "job" or "position" he is surplus to requirements as are many of the top council employees. I am sure we would manage fine with out the likes of ada burn for example but we'd be in a fine pickle if we had no bin men. A chief exec on £185,000+ a year!!! 2 "Directors on £137,00+ per year another on £107,000 + per year another 5 assistant directors on £99,000 + per year EACH and yet another 5 assistants on wages of £78,000 up to £90,000 EACH where the hell do they get the justification to pay these people such high wages? higher than the prime minister, higher than an MP, just what the heck is going on and why? THIS is why we need a more balanced political representation around town, so that each councillor works for the people who voted for him or her and nopt for the party he or she represents and certainly not to keep bill dixon in a job that is totally unnecessary. It never even existed until councillor williams (deceased) thought it up for himself when he retired from being a councillor to continue the income to which he had become used to, the job and bill dixon should be GO. Surplus to requirements as are many of those top paid execs.
Its interesting that the labour voting wards -with mainly council housing (such as cockerton, banktop, park east, eastbourne, haughton, north road) each have 3 councillors while private housing wards (mowden, colledge, hummersknott, park west, whinfield) only have 2. There are just a couple of exceptions the every expanding faverdale has 3, and the largest surface area of the inner boundries (with the exceptions of Hurworth, Heighington/Conniscl iffe and the Sadberge/Middleton st george (which of course have their own parish councils) and harrogate hill to keep the liberals happy. Gerrymandering to keep uncle bill and his labour chums in power rather than a fair and true splitting of wards so that each councillor has to work for his electorate rather than his "party" which would give the TOWN OF DARLINGTON a better council rather than the labour party another town to control. And no i am not a tory supporter either, especially not of the national government, but neither do labour fill me with joy either- especially not bill and his cronies. I firmly believe the town would be better off without him and his "job" or "position" he is surplus to requirements as are many of the top council employees. I am sure we would manage fine with out the likes of ada burn for example but we'd be in a fine pickle if we had no bin men. A chief exec on £185,000+ a year!!! 2 "Directors on £137,00+ per year another on £107,000 + per year another 5 assistant directors on £99,000 + per year EACH and yet another 5 assistants on wages of £78,000 up to £90,000 EACH where the hell do they get the justification to pay these people such high wages? higher than the prime minister, higher than an MP, just what the heck is going on and why? THIS is why we need a more balanced political representation around town, so that each councillor works for the people who voted for him or her and nopt for the party he or she represents and certainly not to keep bill dixon in a job that is totally unnecessary. It never even existed until councillor williams (deceased) thought it up for himself when he retired from being a councillor to continue the income to which he had become used to, the job and bill dixon should be GO. Surplus to requirements as are many of those top paid execs. pensioner2
  • Score: 16

7:39pm Tue 18 Mar 14

MSG says...

How can you change the Middleton St George ward yet given that a 1000 houses are proposed at three sites in St George, One Row & airport. Assuming there are at least two people per house this is 2000 more potential voters ! I think it may be the same over Favourdale. The whole process will be out of date as soon as the boundaries change meaning its a waste of time .

I would far sooner the post of Darlington Borough Council's Chief Executive was eliminated and the duties spread to the other overpaid managers than to loose councillors.
How can you change the Middleton St George ward yet given that a 1000 houses are proposed at three sites in St George, One Row & airport. Assuming there are at least two people per house this is 2000 more potential voters ! I think it may be the same over Favourdale. The whole process will be out of date as soon as the boundaries change meaning its a waste of time . I would far sooner the post of Darlington Borough Council's Chief Executive was eliminated and the duties spread to the other overpaid managers than to loose councillors. MSG
  • Score: 3

9:55pm Tue 18 Mar 14

darloboss says...

Rasselas says...

The Lib Dums are a party of bed hoppers who will climb in with anyone who will give them their ill desrved moment of power.
They are not in the least committed to coalition politics for the good of the country. It is purely for political ends they seek coalition with anyone who will have them.
They are shysters to a man
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4:47pm Tue 18 Mar 14
David Lacey says...

I completely agree. Disgusting party. Even worse than the Tories and Labour.
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8:07pm Tue 18 Mar 14
Adam Walker says...

I agree with Nick too; Nick Griffin. bnp.org.uk ....

Clegg told bare faced lies to students about their fees. Under a BNP Government we wouldnt need to charge our best and brightest fees as they will have earned the right to a free education by participating in national service. They would also learn a bit of patriotism to boot. Nowt wrong with that.

couldnt have put it better
Rasselas says... The Lib Dums are a party of bed hoppers who will climb in with anyone who will give them their ill desrved moment of power. They are not in the least committed to coalition politics for the good of the country. It is purely for political ends they seek coalition with anyone who will have them. They are shysters to a man Score: 2 Like Dislike Quote » Report this post » 4:47pm Tue 18 Mar 14 David Lacey says... I completely agree. Disgusting party. Even worse than the Tories and Labour. Score: 1You voted +1 Quote » Report this post » 8:07pm Tue 18 Mar 14 Adam Walker says... I agree with Nick too; Nick Griffin. bnp.org.uk .... Clegg told bare faced lies to students about their fees. Under a BNP Government we wouldnt need to charge our best and brightest fees as they will have earned the right to a free education by participating in national service. They would also learn a bit of patriotism to boot. Nowt wrong with that. couldnt have put it better darloboss
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8:09am Wed 19 Mar 14

thetruthyoucanthandlethetruth says...

Why does such a small town like Darlington need so many boundaries? It's madness and can only mean more money wasted on far too many politicians and councillors. The whole shebang is a joke and a complete waste of time and money.
Why does such a small town like Darlington need so many boundaries? It's madness and can only mean more money wasted on far too many politicians and councillors. The whole shebang is a joke and a complete waste of time and money. thetruthyoucanthandlethetruth
  • Score: 10

10:19am Wed 19 Mar 14

pager11 says...

pensioner2 wrote:
Its interesting that the labour voting wards -with mainly council housing (such as cockerton, banktop, park east, eastbourne, haughton, north road) each have 3 councillors while private housing wards (mowden, colledge, hummersknott, park west, whinfield) only have 2. There are just a couple of exceptions the every expanding faverdale has 3, and the largest surface area of the inner boundries (with the exceptions of Hurworth, Heighington/Conniscl

iffe and the Sadberge/Middleton st george (which of course have their own parish councils) and harrogate hill to keep the liberals happy. Gerrymandering to keep uncle bill and his labour chums in power rather than a fair and true splitting of wards so that each councillor has to work for his electorate rather than his "party" which would give the TOWN OF DARLINGTON a better council rather than the labour party another town to control. And no i am not a tory supporter either, especially not of the national government, but neither do labour fill me with joy either- especially not bill and his cronies. I firmly believe the town would be better off without him and his "job" or "position" he is surplus to requirements as are many of the top council employees. I am sure we would manage fine with out the likes of ada burn for example but we'd be in a fine pickle if we had no bin men. A chief exec on £185,000+ a year!!! 2 "Directors on £137,00+ per year another on £107,000 + per year another 5 assistant directors on £99,000 + per year EACH and yet another 5 assistants on wages of £78,000 up to £90,000 EACH where the hell do they get the justification to pay these people such high wages? higher than the prime minister, higher than an MP, just what the heck is going on and why? THIS is why we need a more balanced political representation around town, so that each councillor works for the people who voted for him or her and nopt for the party he or she represents and certainly not to keep bill dixon in a job that is totally unnecessary. It never even existed until councillor williams (deceased) thought it up for himself when he retired from being a councillor to continue the income to which he had become used to, the job and bill dixon should be GO. Surplus to requirements as are many of those top paid execs.
Well written pensioner 2, so right about cnlr williams creating the post it did not exist, it is absolutely snouts in troughs at DBC and they know it.
[quote][p][bold]pensioner2[/bold] wrote: Its interesting that the labour voting wards -with mainly council housing (such as cockerton, banktop, park east, eastbourne, haughton, north road) each have 3 councillors while private housing wards (mowden, colledge, hummersknott, park west, whinfield) only have 2. There are just a couple of exceptions the every expanding faverdale has 3, and the largest surface area of the inner boundries (with the exceptions of Hurworth, Heighington/Conniscl iffe and the Sadberge/Middleton st george (which of course have their own parish councils) and harrogate hill to keep the liberals happy. Gerrymandering to keep uncle bill and his labour chums in power rather than a fair and true splitting of wards so that each councillor has to work for his electorate rather than his "party" which would give the TOWN OF DARLINGTON a better council rather than the labour party another town to control. And no i am not a tory supporter either, especially not of the national government, but neither do labour fill me with joy either- especially not bill and his cronies. I firmly believe the town would be better off without him and his "job" or "position" he is surplus to requirements as are many of the top council employees. I am sure we would manage fine with out the likes of ada burn for example but we'd be in a fine pickle if we had no bin men. A chief exec on £185,000+ a year!!! 2 "Directors on £137,00+ per year another on £107,000 + per year another 5 assistant directors on £99,000 + per year EACH and yet another 5 assistants on wages of £78,000 up to £90,000 EACH where the hell do they get the justification to pay these people such high wages? higher than the prime minister, higher than an MP, just what the heck is going on and why? THIS is why we need a more balanced political representation around town, so that each councillor works for the people who voted for him or her and nopt for the party he or she represents and certainly not to keep bill dixon in a job that is totally unnecessary. It never even existed until councillor williams (deceased) thought it up for himself when he retired from being a councillor to continue the income to which he had become used to, the job and bill dixon should be GO. Surplus to requirements as are many of those top paid execs.[/p][/quote]Well written pensioner 2, so right about cnlr williams creating the post it did not exist, it is absolutely snouts in troughs at DBC and they know it. pager11
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5:10pm Wed 19 Mar 14

grandmab says...

Quaker Boy wrote:
Who really cares about this? It's not the most pressing matter in the world.
Actually this is very important. We would save a lot of hard earned council tax pounds by getting rid of a few councillors. I think they have not gone far enough. In a town this size twenty councillors should be enough.
[quote][p][bold]Quaker Boy[/bold] wrote: Who really cares about this? It's not the most pressing matter in the world.[/p][/quote]Actually this is very important. We would save a lot of hard earned council tax pounds by getting rid of a few councillors. I think they have not gone far enough. In a town this size twenty councillors should be enough. grandmab
  • Score: 6

8:28pm Thu 20 Mar 14

Lifetime Townie says...

Before we talk about boundaries we should reconsider how many councilors we really need to run the town on our behalf. At present there would appear to be far to many to represent us especially when we come second to the political party. Jobs for the boys is one expression that comes to mind more so when some wards have more than one councilor A realistic level would be about 18 at the most. After that we could divide the town into boundaries with one councilor for each.
Before we talk about boundaries we should reconsider how many councilors we really need to run the town on our behalf. At present there would appear to be far to many to represent us especially when we come second to the political party. Jobs for the boys is one expression that comes to mind more so when some wards have more than one councilor A realistic level would be about 18 at the most. After that we could divide the town into boundaries with one councilor for each. Lifetime Townie
  • Score: 4

9:15pm Thu 20 Mar 14

cushybutterfield says...

Boring 'UKIP' here I come.
Boring 'UKIP' here I come. cushybutterfield
  • Score: -3

10:33am Sat 22 Mar 14

John Durham says...

grandmab wrote:
Quaker Boy wrote:
Who really cares about this? It's not the most pressing matter in the world.
Actually this is very important. We would save a lot of hard earned council tax pounds by getting rid of a few councillors. I think they have not gone far enough. In a town this size twenty councillors should be enough.
You are probably right but it is not the council which finally determines the number of councillors. The Boundary Commission is an independent body which sets out guidelines in line with various statutes, the numbers of electors to councillors, ward areas etc.
Also Pensioner2 the number of councillors in a ward is determined by the numbers of electors. The implication you gave that Labour areas were given more councillors by the Commission is not true. If an area has bigger houses there is every chance that there will be fewer electors in that ward hence there can be fewer councillors.
The Commission could of course simply make those areas bigger but then it has other guidelines about communities, natural boundaries etc which limit that.
MSG - in determining boundaries the Commission takes account of any new builds planned for five years into the future so the planned developments in MSG will have been taken into account.
One final point - Pensioner2 and others are correct that the salaries of the Chief Exec and others are too high for a council the size of Darlington. Time was the salaries of Chiefs were determined by the population of the council yet Darlington has the highest paid C Exec in the Tees Valley despite having the next lowest population. This cannot be right especially since the gap between the top earners and the vast majority of council staff,who lets face it do the bulk of the work, is now so high.
[quote][p][bold]grandmab[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Quaker Boy[/bold] wrote: Who really cares about this? It's not the most pressing matter in the world.[/p][/quote]Actually this is very important. We would save a lot of hard earned council tax pounds by getting rid of a few councillors. I think they have not gone far enough. In a town this size twenty councillors should be enough.[/p][/quote]You are probably right but it is not the council which finally determines the number of councillors. The Boundary Commission is an independent body which sets out guidelines in line with various statutes, the numbers of electors to councillors, ward areas etc. Also Pensioner2 the number of councillors in a ward is determined by the numbers of electors. The implication you gave that Labour areas were given more councillors by the Commission is not true. If an area has bigger houses there is every chance that there will be fewer electors in that ward hence there can be fewer councillors. The Commission could of course simply make those areas bigger but then it has other guidelines about communities, natural boundaries etc which limit that. MSG - in determining boundaries the Commission takes account of any new builds planned for five years into the future so the planned developments in MSG will have been taken into account. One final point - Pensioner2 and others are correct that the salaries of the Chief Exec and others are too high for a council the size of Darlington. Time was the salaries of Chiefs were determined by the population of the council yet Darlington has the highest paid C Exec in the Tees Valley despite having the next lowest population. This cannot be right especially since the gap between the top earners and the vast majority of council staff,who lets face it do the bulk of the work, is now so high. John Durham
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3:03pm Sat 22 Mar 14

cushybutterfield says...

'Clegg and his liberal sidekicks', as much use to Britain and the decent hardworking British People as a 'Chocolate Fireguard'.......Cle
gg wants NO Cap on immigration into Britain and wants to **raise*** all Benefits from 'A to Z' for all Asylum Seekers and these liberal clowns are canvassing to give 'Murderers in Prison' ...***The Vote****. The Liberals are AGAINST deporting immigrants convicted of Serious Crime because of their so called human rights. It beggars any belief, all paid for by the poor oppressed 'Mug' working British Taxpayer. That is just a tiny sample of pathetic liberal politics and they shake there heads and ask, Why the Political Stampede to 'UKIP'.
'Clegg and his liberal sidekicks', as much use to Britain and the decent hardworking British People as a 'Chocolate Fireguard'.......Cle gg wants NO Cap on immigration into Britain and wants to **raise*** all Benefits from 'A to Z' for all Asylum Seekers and these liberal clowns are canvassing to give 'Murderers in Prison' ...***The Vote****. The Liberals are AGAINST deporting immigrants convicted of Serious Crime because of their so called human rights. It beggars any belief, all paid for by the poor oppressed 'Mug' working British Taxpayer. That is just a tiny sample of pathetic liberal politics and they shake there heads and ask, Why the Political Stampede to 'UKIP'. cushybutterfield
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8:30am Mon 24 Mar 14

MartinMo says...

Do we really need 50 councillors all acheiving next to nothing except upset to the working tax payer, sure 1 per ward could do the job just as poorly.
Do we really need 50 councillors all acheiving next to nothing except upset to the working tax payer, sure 1 per ward could do the job just as poorly. MartinMo
  • Score: 1

12:35pm Wed 26 Mar 14

giggitty says...

Alan Macnab wrote:
'Inept gerrymandering.' How dare Bill Dixon say that. The Liberal Democrats drew up our proposals because we were excluded by the Labour and Conservative Groups from their discussions on the ward boundaries. That is a fact. The Labour leadership said in Council in December that we were not fit to play with the big boys and so they excluded us. The 'inept gerrymandering' as Dixon calls it was accepted by the Boundary Commission as being fair. The Boundary Commission are an independent, well respected, body of experts in boundary reviews to ensure there is fairness in terms of equal or near equal population sizes between wards to ensure proper representation.
Surely the 'inept gerrymandering" was a general comment rather than a specific one?
[quote][p][bold]Alan Macnab[/bold] wrote: 'Inept gerrymandering.' How dare Bill Dixon say that. The Liberal Democrats drew up our proposals because we were excluded by the Labour and Conservative Groups from their discussions on the ward boundaries. That is a fact. The Labour leadership said in Council in December that we were not fit to play with the big boys and so they excluded us. The 'inept gerrymandering' as Dixon calls it was accepted by the Boundary Commission as being fair. The Boundary Commission are an independent, well respected, body of experts in boundary reviews to ensure there is fairness in terms of equal or near equal population sizes between wards to ensure proper representation.[/p][/quote]Surely the 'inept gerrymandering" was a general comment rather than a specific one? giggitty
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