Convicted fraudster resumes accountancy business (From The Northern Echo)
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Convicted fraudster resumes accountancy business
7:00am Wednesday 2nd January 2013 in News
Exclusive By Andy Walker, Chief Reporter (Darlington)
BACK AT WORK: Karen Iley
A CONVICTED fraudster who stole more than £30,000 from a charity for the blind has resumed her accountancy business after being released from prison, The Northern Echo can reveal.
Karen Iley, from Darlington, was jailed for a year in 2008 after stealing from the Darlington and District Talking Newspaper, while working as its volunteer treasurer.
She also stole more than £1,500 from a business referral organisation, as well as dishonestly making a false representation to make a gain of £2,056 by the fraudulent use of a cheque.
Having served her sentence, she is free to run her company, Iley Associates, from her offices in the town's Garden Street.
There is no suggestion she is breaking the law now and no order was made banning her from practising as an accountant when she was sentenced.
The judge at Teesside Crown Court, in June 2008, Recorder Peter Johnson, described her behaviour as "pilfering on a large scale" and "a blizzard of dishonest acts", after hearing how she gave £20,000 of the charity's funds to her partner, so he could buy a new car.
When approached, Iley said she had moved on with her life and accused , accusing The Northern Echo of trying to "drag up the past" in an effort to sell newspapers.
Ms Iley, who is in her 50s, also appeared to dispute the circumstances of her conviction, but was unwilling to expand.
She declined to offer reassurance to her current clients when asked, saying: "The only people I care about are the people who did not judge me."
Industry body the Institute of Chartered Accountants regulates the practice of its members, but it is understood that Iley does not claim membership of the organisation.
Her company is registered with Companies House as Iley Enterprises Limited, which her website says incorporates Iley Associates.
Companies House's website lists the nature of Iley Enterprises' business as 'computer facilities management', rather than accounting.
Among the services offered by Iley, according to her website, are book-keeping, accounts and tax returns.
The website claims: "A comment that has been made over and over again by people who have met Karen is that she is not a typical accountant. She is lively, outgoing, considerate and has the distinct knack of putting you at your ease."
A spokeswoman for the talking newspaper, which records stories from The Northern Echo onto CDs, for the benefit of visually-impaired people, said the organisation did not wish to comment until after its next committee meeting in January.
Comments(59)
Idontknowaboutyoubut
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10:10am Wed 2 Jan 13
Hunty1
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10:23am Wed 2 Jan 13
stevegg
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11:17am Wed 2 Jan 13
loan_star
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11:28am Wed 2 Jan 13
Woodenhead
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12:25pm Wed 2 Jan 13
Townlad
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12:26pm Wed 2 Jan 13
Woodenhead
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12:59pm Wed 2 Jan 13
Townlad wrote:What about forgiveness. Has she not paid already. She is now legally working hard trying to make a living in the trade that she trained in is this a crime.
The article from the NEcho states that at companies house her business makes no reference to her work in accounting or book keeping, could this be that is because she is a fraudster and not allowed to trade as such? Either way I wouldn`t give her my business although I do know someone who uses her services I will be sending them this article as I never knew about her past either I will make sure my friends cease to be her customer, leopards do not change their spots and to steal from a charity is disgraceful.
Homshaw1
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1:01pm Wed 2 Jan 13
Equally she needs to get on with her life.
It might have been advisable to think about a career change while inside
battboy77
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1:09pm Wed 2 Jan 13
hottopic
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1:26pm Wed 2 Jan 13
battboy77 wrote:Its not support to her, but hopefully a little faith that the system works occasionally, hopefully she maybe an example. If people are pre-judged by past mistakes then they have little chance of leaving that behind them. I do think it is an article in the bank for the Northen Echo to bring out when theres no news, and pretty pointless. Just my opinion and everyone has a rght to there own.
she does not deserve to run a business the theiving low life and as for all the comments above that give support to her......shame on you!!!
aycliffemum4
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2:14pm Wed 2 Jan 13
Why can you not leave the past in the past. HAVE YOU NOTHING BETTER TO DO........ Shoud be reporting on NEW news not chasing histroy and gossip. How you won north east reporter of the year is beond me. No real heart to this story. No reporting needed just a garden wall and a hairnet!!!!!!!! Back street gossip and 'have you heard what soan so is doing!!!!!!! Who here is really getting money for doing no work!!!!!!!!!!!!!,,,
,,,NOW there's a story.
Smuggler
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2:15pm Wed 2 Jan 13
Does it involve other people money?
battboy77
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2:18pm Wed 2 Jan 13
aycliffemum4 wrote:beond & soan so??? are these actual words??? oh yeah if your an aycliffe mum this makes sense.........
Shame on you and the northern echo again!!!!!!!! Why can you not leave the past in the past. HAVE YOU NOTHING BETTER TO DO........ Shoud be reporting on NEW news not chasing histroy and gossip. How you won north east reporter of the year is beond me. No real heart to this story. No reporting needed just a garden wall and a hairnet!!!!!!!! Back street gossip and 'have you heard what soan so is doing!!!!!!! Who here is really getting money for doing no work!!!!!!!!!!!!!,,, ,,,NOW there's a story.
aycliffemum4
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2:25pm Wed 2 Jan 13
You are just being a pratt!
Grow up!this is about poor reporting skills and lack of journalism...... Not my typing skills.
battboy77
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2:28pm Wed 2 Jan 13
aycliffemum4
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2:40pm Wed 2 Jan 13
My comments about you being a pratt are just confirmed by you comments.
battboy77
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2:54pm Wed 2 Jan 13
Yes i do work on a computor......you need to work on getting a job!!!
giggitty
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3:41pm Wed 2 Jan 13
battboy77 wrote:Bravo! At last, someone who talks sense. (although taking the P out of someone’s grammar etc. is a tad uncalled for)
This is good journalism, its lets us know about all the low lifes out there and who to avoid..........and also make us chuckle at people like you who support these theiving scumbags.
I totally agree that this sort of info should be reported upon, so the law abiding among us can make informed decisions. This country panders to the perpetrator and ignores the victims (potential or not!)
There maybe those out there who would still use her financial services. Obviously after she's seen the light and turned over a new leaf. But i certainly won’t put it to the test!
Doesn’t the nature of her registered business ring any alarm bells? There maybe a perfectly plausible reason, but alarm bells ring loud and clear to me, so I’ll be giving her a wide birth. Not that i have any money to warrant an accountant!
mark.wilkinson
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5:53pm Wed 2 Jan 13
Townlad
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6:32pm Wed 2 Jan 13
aycliffemum4
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7:18pm Wed 2 Jan 13
victorjames
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8:14pm Wed 2 Jan 13
battboy77 wrote:I could not agree more. She is what would be described in the building trade as a cowboy . I know she is alleged to have paid her debt to society but I would never trust her with money and think she should never be put in a position of trust again. Full marks to The Echo for alerting future clients.
she does not deserve to run a business the theiving low life and as for all the comments above that give support to her......shame on you!!!
fratia
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8:25pm Wed 2 Jan 13
l Advisors are as crooked as the day is long. You do not go to jail if you are a law abiding citizen.
victorjames
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8:40pm Wed 2 Jan 13
fratia wrote:I could say more but totally agree with the above. I think that The Echo has done everyone in the area a great service. One thing is correct. On her website it says that Karen is not your typical accountant. You could say that again with knobs on
This is not about poor reporting, this is about honesty. Honestly, would you want this lady doing your company books, and submitting funds(yours) to the government? In my book waht is born square does not die round, think about it for a moment, and watch where you put your money, many Accountants/Financia l Advisors are as crooked as the day is long. You do not go to jail if you are a law abiding citizen.
Davy Crocket
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12:25am Thu 3 Jan 13
snudge
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5:02am Thu 3 Jan 13
Homshaw1
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12:21pm Thu 3 Jan 13
snudge wrote:I don't see how anyone can say the story is not in the public interest.
Slow news day what's the fuss about
You can have an opinion on whether she should be working as an accountant and this story lets you judge for yourself whether you want to be a client
victorjames
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5:04pm Thu 3 Jan 13
snudge wrote:She stole nearly the entire funds from a worthy charity from a position of trust and whilst working as a professional. Moreover she seems now to dispute the verdict of her peers acting as a jury and now intends to resume her business dealings which largely involves advising clients on money matters and perhaps being trusted with other peoples money. I think The Echo had every right to warn the public. I'm not advocating that she should never work again but I repeat I would not trust her in money matters. There are other careers open to her, perhaps working for a charity as a token of rehabilitation.
Slow news day what's the fuss about
hottopic
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6:44pm Thu 3 Jan 13
victorjames wrote:Any person who has carried out there punishment has every right in most circumstances to live a normal life and has every right to question the decision of peers as the extent of the punishment would taken into account remorse or lack of it within pre-scentencing reports. So having served punishment she has everyright to do as he or she pleases unless tshe were to break the law again. In this circumstance she hasn't, there is no news here.
snudge wrote:She stole nearly the entire funds from a worthy charity from a position of trust and whilst working as a professional. Moreover she seems now to dispute the verdict of her peers acting as a jury and now intends to resume her business dealings which largely involves advising clients on money matters and perhaps being trusted with other peoples money. I think The Echo had every right to warn the public. I'm not advocating that she should never work again but I repeat I would not trust her in money matters. There are other careers open to her, perhaps working for a charity as a token of rehabilitation.
Slow news day what's the fuss about
Just pre-judgemental journalists and people..... here's a question.... if someone has been banned for drink driving or for repeated speeding would you think the same or less of them, than someone who had knocked someone over and killed them whilst dunk or speeding, in practicality there is very little differnce, just luck or unluckiness of circumstances one might say, bearing that in mind would you treat both the same after they have served a ban/scentence? Scocieties perception is a strange thing, once you have done wrong and learnt from mistakes, maybe these reformed people best in place to comment or criticise.
I imagine most people commenting are model citizens, but almost no-body is squekey clean, as proven by the MP expenses.
Be careful who you judge so easily, it's so easy to end up on the wrong side of the law... intentionally or not. After all weren't most MP's following the crowd... one might say there peers? Public perception can change in a second... look at Saville yet Young Girl was a hit in the 70's describing something which is disgusting in our modern society. I am not saying anyones behaviour is acceptable... especially waht has come to forth about Saville but Societies views changes and what was acceptable or so unacceptable it wasn;t talked about then is unacceptable and always reported now.
I talked alot there, hope none of it is taken the wrong way, just trying to be objective to an extent.
victorjames
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7:29pm Thu 3 Jan 13
hottopic wrote:I perhaps have the advantage over you as I have information not covered in the newspaper article. I stand by what I said she is, of course, free to carry on her career in any way she chooses providing that she does not break the law, but despite this I would suggest she should not again be placed in a position of trust involving money. I also repeat that this story is in the public interest and The Northern Echo were quite right to report it.
victorjames wrote:Any person who has carried out there punishment has every right in most circumstances to live a normal life and has every right to question the decision of peers as the extent of the punishment would taken into account remorse or lack of it within pre-scentencing reports. So having served punishment she has everyright to do as he or she pleases unless tshe were to break the law again. In this circumstance she hasn't, there is no news here. Just pre-judgemental journalists and people..... here's a question.... if someone has been banned for drink driving or for repeated speeding would you think the same or less of them, than someone who had knocked someone over and killed them whilst dunk or speeding, in practicality there is very little differnce, just luck or unluckiness of circumstances one might say, bearing that in mind would you treat both the same after they have served a ban/scentence? Scocieties perception is a strange thing, once you have done wrong and learnt from mistakes, maybe these reformed people best in place to comment or criticise. I imagine most people commenting are model citizens, but almost no-body is squekey clean, as proven by the MP expenses. Be careful who you judge so easily, it's so easy to end up on the wrong side of the law... intentionally or not. After all weren't most MP's following the crowd... one might say there peers? Public perception can change in a second... look at Saville yet Young Girl was a hit in the 70's describing something which is disgusting in our modern society. I am not saying anyones behaviour is acceptable... especially waht has come to forth about Saville but Societies views changes and what was acceptable or so unacceptable it wasn;t talked about then is unacceptable and always reported now. I talked alot there, hope none of it is taken the wrong way, just trying to be objective to an extent.snudge wrote: Slow news day what's the fuss aboutShe stole nearly the entire funds from a worthy charity from a position of trust and whilst working as a professional. Moreover she seems now to dispute the verdict of her peers acting as a jury and now intends to resume her business dealings which largely involves advising clients on money matters and perhaps being trusted with other peoples money. I think The Echo had every right to warn the public. I'm not advocating that she should never work again but I repeat I would not trust her in money matters. There are other careers open to her, perhaps working for a charity as a token of rehabilitation.
Duke of Aycliffe
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7:40pm Thu 3 Jan 13
If people don't like her or trust her, then use a different accountant. It's not rocket science. Anyway, there's plenty of untrustworthy people in the govt & other positions of power in this country, & they get away with it.
victorjames
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8:01pm Thu 3 Jan 13
Duke of Aycliffe wrote:You are, of course, correct but some time back in this debate someone questioned whether this was really a story at all and criticised The Echo for printing it. My point is that considering the nature of her work they were quite right to report it and furthermore I agree with the prominence that they gave to the report. People can then decide whether to go to her or not. Personally I wouldn't.
So what about this lady, she's paid her debt to society. What do people want? Do they want het to be locked in up in the Tower of London or hung, drawn & quartered? If people don't like her or trust her, then use a different accountant. It's not rocket science. Anyway, there's plenty of untrustworthy people in the govt & other positions of power in this country, & they get away with it.
boxtie
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6:55am Fri 4 Jan 13
johnny_p
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9:07am Fri 4 Jan 13
Just as you might not want a former sex offender looking after your children...
Woodenhead
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9:40am Fri 4 Jan 13
boxtie wrote:Hear Hear!
This is, in my view a cheap shot. At the time of her conviction she was exposed in the media etc...justice was served and she has carried out her part of that process....time in a cell, and all of the public shame attached. The Echo clearly states that by re-engaging with her previous line of work, she has not and is not doing anything wrong.....so, why bring it all back ? Cheap Shot. Case closed.
Porca miseria
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3:13pm Fri 4 Jan 13
kirblebarblebumblebee
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5:49pm Fri 4 Jan 13
Porca miseria wrote:Totally agree. There is no reason why she should need to be touching any clients money, only reporting, which is what most accountants work is.
Let her do peoples books, just don't give her access to your funds, simple.
This type of reporting by The Northern Echo is poor and cheap
angel*pie
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8:39pm Fri 4 Jan 13
aycliffemum4 wrote:She has paid for her past mistakes . Now she should be able to rebuild her life. Isn't that how our judicial system works?
Shame on you and the northern echo again!!!!!!!!
Why can you not leave the past in the past. HAVE YOU NOTHING BETTER TO DO........ Shoud be reporting on NEW news not chasing histroy and gossip. How you won north east reporter of the year is beond me. No real heart to this story. No reporting needed just a garden wall and a hairnet!!!!!!!! Back street gossip and 'have you heard what soan so is doing!!!!!!! Who here is really getting money for doing no work!!!!!!!!!!!!!,,,
,,,NOW there's a story.
Maybe I could apply for your job . At least I know the meaning of news!!
lingling29
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9:39pm Fri 4 Jan 13
what would concern me though is, would her work be accepted by the tax office ?
Dean M
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11:29pm Fri 4 Jan 13
greenfinger
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5:16pm Sat 5 Jan 13
tomtopper
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6:33pm Sat 5 Jan 13
Woodenhead wrote:So, in your world, when Baby P's mother is released she should be allowed to be a nanny to someone's children, should she want to? Or if Ian Huntley were to be released, he should be allowed to be a school caretaker again? Or Kenneth Noye should be allowed to be a traffic cop if he so wished?
boxtie wrote:Hear Hear!
This is, in my view a cheap shot. At the time of her conviction she was exposed in the media etc...justice was served and she has carried out her part of that process....time in a cell, and all of the public shame attached. The Echo clearly states that by re-engaging with her previous line of work, she has not and is not doing anything wrong.....so, why bring it all back ? Cheap Shot. Case closed.
As far as I can recall no one had a gun to this lady's head when she raped the charities funds and thus she should suffer continual exposure for her crime... Well done Northern Echo
hottopic
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7:44pm Sat 5 Jan 13
tomtopper wrote:The judges in all these cases made sure this won't happen for obvious reasons. For example sex offenders register. None of this is relevant in this case. Keep it real, keep it relevant. I would hate to make a mistake, pay the price, reform myself, get back on track and have this happen. Also, think of any partners, directors or employees in the company that may lose business or there jobs because of this pointless attack and the uneccesary negative PR it will have. There are no winners from the publication of this article except the Northern Echo in some people eyes... not in mine. If she did end up being unemployed and claiming benefits as a result of this, don't worry the Northern Echo will let you know!
Woodenhead wrote:So, in your world, when Baby P's mother is released she should be allowed to be a nanny to someone's children, should she want to? Or if Ian Huntley were to be released, he should be allowed to be a school caretaker again? Or Kenneth Noye should be allowed to be a traffic cop if he so wished?
boxtie wrote:Hear Hear!
This is, in my view a cheap shot. At the time of her conviction she was exposed in the media etc...justice was served and she has carried out her part of that process....time in a cell, and all of the public shame attached. The Echo clearly states that by re-engaging with her previous line of work, she has not and is not doing anything wrong.....so, why bring it all back ? Cheap Shot. Case closed.
As far as I can recall no one had a gun to this lady's head when she raped the charities funds and thus she should suffer continual exposure for her crime... Well done Northern Echo
victorjames
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8:31pm Sat 5 Jan 13
kirblebarblebumblebeThis type of reporting is just what people need, Its in the public interest to know these facts. I've worked in Tax and accounting and if you give someone your accounting records then you are jointly responsible with your accountant if tax returns are not made or VAT returns completed incorrectly. It would not matter one bit if she was setting up as a hairdresser or shopkeeper. Really I've got rather fed up of stating the obvious, its little wonder that so many people get scammed on the internet or by identity theft. I repeat I think The Echo did a service, people can then choose whether they use or not. I suspect the charity that she cleaned out will not be recommending her to anyone.
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Porca miseria wrote: Let her do peoples books, just don't give her access to your funds, simple.Totally agree. There is no reason why she should need to be touching any clients money, only reporting, which is what most accountants work is. This type of reporting by The Northern Echo is poor and cheap
Homshaw1
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8:58pm Sat 5 Jan 13
boxtie wrote:If I was looking for an accountant I'd want to know about it.
This is, in my view a cheap shot. At the time of her conviction she was exposed in the media etc...justice was served and she has carried out her part of that process....time in a cell, and all of the public shame attached. The Echo clearly states that by re-engaging with her previous line of work, she has not and is not doing anything wrong.....so, why bring it all back ? Cheap Shot. Case closed.
Is there anyone who can honestly say they would not want to know?
diga
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11:12pm Sat 5 Jan 13
Homshaw1 wrote:I'd like to know too. Judging by the comments it sounds as though a lot of commentators know this lady. I haven't got much in savings but I'd like to know they were safe.
boxtie wrote:If I was looking for an accountant I'd want to know about it.
This is, in my view a cheap shot. At the time of her conviction she was exposed in the media etc...justice was served and she has carried out her part of that process....time in a cell, and all of the public shame attached. The Echo clearly states that by re-engaging with her previous line of work, she has not and is not doing anything wrong.....so, why bring it all back ? Cheap Shot. Case closed.
Is there anyone who can honestly say they would not want to know?
tomtopper
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11:42am Sun 6 Jan 13
hottopic wrote:You'd hate to make a 'mistake'..?? Is this what you think the lady in question did? Make a mistake??
tomtopper wrote:The judges in all these cases made sure this won't happen for obvious reasons. For example sex offenders register. None of this is relevant in this case. Keep it real, keep it relevant. I would hate to make a mistake, pay the price, reform myself, get back on track and have this happen. Also, think of any partners, directors or employees in the company that may lose business or there jobs because of this pointless attack and the uneccesary negative PR it will have. There are no winners from the publication of this article except the Northern Echo in some people eyes... not in mine. If she did end up being unemployed and claiming benefits as a result of this, don't worry the Northern Echo will let you know!
Woodenhead wrote:So, in your world, when Baby P's mother is released she should be allowed to be a nanny to someone's children, should she want to? Or if Ian Huntley were to be released, he should be allowed to be a school caretaker again? Or Kenneth Noye should be allowed to be a traffic cop if he so wished?
boxtie wrote:Hear Hear!
This is, in my view a cheap shot. At the time of her conviction she was exposed in the media etc...justice was served and she has carried out her part of that process....time in a cell, and all of the public shame attached. The Echo clearly states that by re-engaging with her previous line of work, she has not and is not doing anything wrong.....so, why bring it all back ? Cheap Shot. Case closed.
As far as I can recall no one had a gun to this lady's head when she raped the charities funds and thus she should suffer continual exposure for her crime... Well done Northern Echo
The point I was making was to do with the whole ethos of those who commit prisonable crimes.. To put oneself in the same arena surrounded by the same type of people directly upon release and expect one's history to be hidden is almost an act of deception.. After all, no-one is lying here.. Only the truth is being told... Why withhold the truth?
It is also an insult to those accountants who have committed no crime and been faultless in their work to have this woman judged as ethically and morally equal as they are.. To withhold the history of anyone or anything is a deception, simple as that.. And that's as real and as relevant as you could get..
boxtie
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10:01pm Sun 6 Jan 13
tomtopper wrote:Buffoon, how can you make a comparison between Shoesmith, Noye, and Huntley etc with someone who has stolen some cash, what sense is there in your post......
Woodenhead wrote:So, in your world, when Baby P's mother is released she should be allowed to be a nanny to someone's children, should she want to? Or if Ian Huntley were to be released, he should be allowed to be a school caretaker again? Or Kenneth Noye should be allowed to be a traffic cop if he so wished? As far as I can recall no one had a gun to this lady's head when she raped the charities funds and thus she should suffer continual exposure for her crime... Well done Northern Echoboxtie wrote: This is, in my view a cheap shot. At the time of her conviction she was exposed in the media etc...justice was served and she has carried out her part of that process....time in a cell, and all of the public shame attached. The Echo clearly states that by re-engaging with her previous line of work, she has not and is not doing anything wrong.....so, why bring it all back ? Cheap Shot. Case closed.Hear Hear!
mrvunderbar
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10:44pm Sun 6 Jan 13
boxtie
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11:33pm Sun 6 Jan 13
boxtie wrote:
This is, in my view a cheap shot. At the time of her conviction she was exposed in the media etc...justice was served and she has carried out her part of that process....time in a cell, and all of the public shame attached. The Echo clearly states that by re-engaging with her previous line of work, she has not and is not doing anything wrong.....so, why bring it all back ? Cheap Shot. Case closed.
If I was looking for an accountant I'd want to know about it.
Is there anyone who can honestly say they would not want to know?
Well of course you would like to know, I assume that within your application process you ASK the relevant question?
boxtie
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11:37pm Sun 6 Jan 13
mption, etc....forget how her relatives feel about this being dragged up again...........i get it now......prevent her from working at all, stop her from securing any benefits....perhaps the lady will become ill.....or worse.....is that what you imbeciles want?
tomtopper
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1:04pm Mon 7 Jan 13
boxtie wrote:It's the principle I was on about if you cared to read my later post.. But buffoons like yourself obviously aren't clever enough to grasp the point I was making
tomtopper wrote:Buffoon, how can you make a comparison between Shoesmith, Noye, and Huntley etc with someone who has stolen some cash, what sense is there in your post......
Woodenhead wrote:So, in your world, when Baby P's mother is released she should be allowed to be a nanny to someone's children, should she want to? Or if Ian Huntley were to be released, he should be allowed to be a school caretaker again? Or Kenneth Noye should be allowed to be a traffic cop if he so wished? As far as I can recall no one had a gun to this lady's head when she raped the charities funds and thus she should suffer continual exposure for her crime... Well done Northern Echoboxtie wrote: This is, in my view a cheap shot. At the time of her conviction she was exposed in the media etc...justice was served and she has carried out her part of that process....time in a cell, and all of the public shame attached. The Echo clearly states that by re-engaging with her previous line of work, she has not and is not doing anything wrong.....so, why bring it all back ? Cheap Shot. Case closed.Hear Hear!
tomtopper
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1:15pm Mon 7 Jan 13
boxtie wrote:It's a question of fact and the telling of truth, not forgiveness..
I get it now......forget forgiveness.....rede
mption, etc....forget how her relatives feel about this being dragged up again...........i get it now......prevent her from working at all, stop her from securing any benefits....perhaps the lady will become ill.....or worse.....is that what you imbeciles want?
Do you want people to lie and say she has never been in prison? If she followed another career path upon release their would be less inclination to do so..
She's brought it all on herself... And deserves every bit of ridicule for the misery she has caused..
If she was truly remorseful she would be working in another job and paying the charity back, whilst accepting the rightful scorn poured upon her..
Moral of the story? This is what happens when you rob people.. a stigma is rightly attached.. dont do it..
She's brought it all on herself
boxtie
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2:49pm Mon 7 Jan 13
Lovemyself
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10:10am Tue 8 Jan 13
jps101
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10:30am Tue 8 Jan 13
Time after time I read about similar cases where they've served their sentence and had a fine a fraction of the amount involved, and afterwards they come out of it all still having gained financially, crime isn't suppose to pay!
chrisdoun
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5:46pm Tue 8 Jan 13
dianemanson
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6:34pm Tue 8 Jan 13
hottopic says...
9:40am Wed 2 Jan 13