Anger mounts over prank call as tributes paid to 'suicide' nurse

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ANGER is mounting against two Australian radio presenters after a nurse who was duped into helping reveal details about the Duchess of Cambridge's health apparently took her own life.

Jacintha Saldanha was pronounced dead yesterday morning at an address near the King Edward VII's Hospital in central London, where the pregnant Duchess had been treated for a severe form of morning sickness.

The nurse, reportedly a mother-of-two, was the victim of two DJs from the Sydney-based station 2Day FM, who impersonated the Queen and the Prince of Wales.

She answered their call and, believing they were members of the Royal Family, put them through to another nurse who described Kate's condition in detail.

In a statement last night, Ms Saldanha's family said they were deeply saddened by the death and asked for privacy.

They said: "We as a family are deeply saddened by the loss of our beloved Jacintha. We would ask that the media respect our privacy at this difficult time."

The two presenters, Mel Greig and Michael Christian, apologised for their actions, as did their radio station.

They have now been taken off the air and the station has been inundated with complaints.

But Rhys Holleran, chief executive of 2Day FM's parent company Southern Cross Austereo, stood by the two DJs, and said they were shocked and devastated by the news of Ms Saldanha's death.

At a news conference in Melbourne he said: "This is a tragic event that could not have been reasonably foreseen and were deeply saddened by it.

"I spoke to both presenters early this morning and it's fair to say theyre completely shattered."

Mr Holleran said the pair had been offered counselling, adding: "These people aren't machines, they're human beings. We're all affected by this."

He would not say who came up with the idea for the call, only that these things are often done collaboratively.

He said he was confident the station hadn't broken any laws, noting that prank calls in radio have been happening for decades.

"They're not just part of one radio station or one network or one country - they're done worldwide," he said.

In the wake of the tragedy Southern Cross Austereo said that, by mutual consent, the hosts would not be returning to their show until further notice.

In a statement Southern Cross Austereo said: "Southern Cross Austereo (SCA) and 2Day FM are deeply saddened by the tragic news of the death of nurse Jacintha Saldanha from King Edward VII's Hospital and we extend our deepest sympathies to her family and all that have been affected by this situation around the world.

"Chief executive officer Rhys Holleran has spoken with the presenters. They are both deeply shocked and at this time we have agreed that they will not comment about the circumstances.

"SCA and the hosts have decided that they will not return to their radio show until further notice out of respect for what can only be described as a tragedy."

The news of Ms Saldanha's death has led the headlines in the Australian media, with calls for the DJs to be sacked.

It was reported the advertisers are already deserting the radio station, including supermarket giant Coles and telecommunications company Telstra.

There has been an angry backlash from people in Australia, and almost 14,000 people have left comments on the stations Facebook page.

Many called for the pair to be sacked permanently, and others said they had blood on their hands.

Maris Haryadi wrote: "Love it when what you expect to be worldwide sensation turns into worldwide condemnation! Hope you learn your lesson now", while Gary Dowdell called there action "infantile, plain disgusting behaviour".

Siobhan Davies added: "Disgusting and irresponsible prank. These two should never be allowed on radio or television again", while Ali Matour wrote: "Will not return until further notice... They should silence your radio forever."

Some even called for charges to be brought, and TV personality Kelly Osbourne tweeted: "Mel Greig and Michael Christian should be put in prison for what they have done!"

The two presenters remarked during their show how their efforts were the easiest prank call ever made, as they put on mock British accents they later described as terrible.

The prank call was pre-recorded and vetted by lawyers before being broadcast to listeners in Sydney.

In their initial apology the two presenters said: "We were very surprised that our call was put through. We thought we'd be hung up on as soon as they heard our terrible accents.

"We're very sorry if weve caused any issues and were glad to hear that Kate is doing well."

A flood of complaints has been made to the Australian Communications and Media Authority, which regulates radio broadcasting.

Chairman Chris Chapman said in a statement: "These events are a tragedy for all involved and I pass on my heartfelt condolences to the family of the deceased nurse in London.

"The ACMA does not propose to make any comments at this stage, but will be engaging with the licensee, Today FM Sydney, around the facts and issues surrounding the prank call."

The tragedy has even reached Australia's political class.

Prime Minister Julia Gillard called Ms Saldanha's death a terrible tragedy, saying: "Our thoughts are with her family and friends at this time."

But the premier of New South Wales Barry O'Farrell defended the two presenters, World News Australia reported, and said the DJs must be feeling terrible.

He said: "I don't imagine in any way that those who were engaged in the typical FM radio stunt would have thought it would lead to this.

"I think there are some people today who are suffering, not just the family of the nurse, but those who in some way were involved with what appears to be the trigger for this tragedy."

The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge last night sent their condolences to Ms Saldanha's family.

In a statement St James' Palace said: "The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge are deeply saddened to learn of the death of Jacintha Saldanha.

"Their Royal Highnesses were looked after so wonderfully well at all times by everybody at King Edward VII's Hospital, and their thoughts and prayers are with Jacintha Saldanha's family, friends and colleagues at this very sad time."

The spokesman stressed that they had not complained to the hospital about the hoax call, saying: "On the contrary, we offered our full and heartfelt support to the nurses involved and hospital staff at all times."

The hospital said in a statement: "We can confirm the tragic death of a member of our nursing staff, Jacintha Saldanha.

"Jacintha has worked at the King Edward VII's Hospital for more than four years. She was an excellent nurse and a well-respected and popular member of staff with all her colleagues.

"We can confirm that Jacintha was recently the victim of a hoax call to the hospital. The hospital has been supporting her at this difficult time."

Hospital chief executive John Lofthouse said: "Our thoughts and deepest sympathies at this time are with her family and friends. Everyone is shocked by the loss of a much-loved and valued colleague."

Lord Glenarthur, the hospital's chairman, said: "This is a tragic event. Jacintha was a first-class nurse who cared diligently for hundreds of patients during her time with us. She will be greatly missed."

Scotland Yard said Ms Saldanha's death was not being treated as suspicious.

In a statement it said officers were called at around 9.35am yesterday morning to a report of a woman found unconscious at an address in Weymouth Street in central London.

It said: "London Ambulance Service attended and the woman was pronounced dead at the scene. Inquiries are continuing to establish the circumstances of the incident.

"The death is not being treated as suspicious at this stage."

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3:37pm Fri 7 Dec 12

grumpyoldpops says...

If this is true then those presenters want sacking and the radio station prosecuting this poor old lady probably did it out of shame and embarrasment knowing she would be hounded by the press for her side of the story god love her R.I.P
PRANK CALLS SHOULD BE BANNED
If this is true then those presenters want sacking and the radio station prosecuting this poor old lady probably did it out of shame and embarrasment knowing she would be hounded by the press for her side of the story god love her R.I.P PRANK CALLS SHOULD BE BANNED grumpyoldpops
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3:40pm Fri 7 Dec 12

danlea2012 says...

Really sad if this true.. RIP
Really sad if this true.. RIP danlea2012
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4:00pm Fri 7 Dec 12

Yemen says...

whoah whoah whoa ... who says this is in any way linked to a prank call ffs !!!
whoah whoah whoa ... who says this is in any way linked to a prank call ffs !!! Yemen
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4:14pm Fri 7 Dec 12

maur1 says...

well if was a prank call was only done in fun rip tho nurse wish you had saw funny side
well if was a prank call was only done in fun rip tho nurse wish you had saw funny side maur1
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4:37pm Fri 7 Dec 12

torig says...

This was supposedly a harmless prank call and I don't think anyone involved or anyone that heard about the call would have predicted this. Imagine if you had ever played a prank on someone (I'm sure you have) and it was linked to a suicide. A tragic event and my thoughts go out to her family.
This was supposedly a harmless prank call and I don't think anyone involved or anyone that heard about the call would have predicted this. Imagine if you had ever played a prank on someone (I'm sure you have) and it was linked to a suicide. A tragic event and my thoughts go out to her family. torig
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4:44pm Fri 7 Dec 12

fratia says...

Extremely saddened by this event, this poor nurse was probably told off by the powers that be at the hospital, Someone should be held accountable for her death. She left behind two children and a family that loved her.The mind is a very fragile thing and she did not have to do this, but was pushed over the edge by those two twits in Australia and the ensuing media surrounding this hoax call. All this for the Royal Family getting an addition, absolutely disgusting.
Extremely saddened by this event, this poor nurse was probably told off by the powers that be at the hospital, Someone should be held accountable for her death. She left behind two children and a family that loved her.The mind is a very fragile thing and she did not have to do this, but was pushed over the edge by those two twits in Australia and the ensuing media surrounding this hoax call. All this for the Royal Family getting an addition, absolutely disgusting. fratia
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12:25am Sat 8 Dec 12

nigelsafc says...

maur1 wrote:
well if was a prank call was only done in fun rip tho nurse wish you had saw funny side
what funny side is that cos i cant see one.
[quote][p][bold]maur1[/bold] wrote: well if was a prank call was only done in fun rip tho nurse wish you had saw funny side[/p][/quote]what funny side is that cos i cant see one. nigelsafc
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7:06am Sat 8 Dec 12

snudge says...

Typical Australian scum like most of their nation ignorant unsporting rabble. Remind them that Yorkshire got more gold medals at the last Olympics. Hanging too good for them
Typical Australian scum like most of their nation ignorant unsporting rabble. Remind them that Yorkshire got more gold medals at the last Olympics. Hanging too good for them snudge
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10:02am Sat 8 Dec 12

glyn says...

Lets look beyond the prank (which as mentioned, we have all carried out or been a victim of),what sort of reprimand did the hospital carry out and more importantly did the media hound her to death? (Where have I heard that before?)
Lets look beyond the prank (which as mentioned, we have all carried out or been a victim of),what sort of reprimand did the hospital carry out and more importantly did the media hound her to death? (Where have I heard that before?) glyn
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11:17am Sat 8 Dec 12

Wolfreton says...

I agree with Yemen - its not a normal reaction to a prank call to go and commit suicide. I just hope the Hospital was supportive and made it clear she was not blame. Otherwise some people will be feeling guilty this Christmas.
I agree with Yemen - its not a normal reaction to a prank call to go and commit suicide. I just hope the Hospital was supportive and made it clear she was not blame. Otherwise some people will be feeling guilty this Christmas. Wolfreton
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11:28am Sat 8 Dec 12

loan_star says...

The nurse also got a good slagging off in the media for falling for the prank call. Although the call was the catalyst, the media should be looking at themselves too for their part in this.
The nurse also got a good slagging off in the media for falling for the prank call. Although the call was the catalyst, the media should be looking at themselves too for their part in this. loan_star
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12:13pm Sat 8 Dec 12

Sean35 says...

I'd like to know what her employers reaction towards her was after the hoax call e.g Supervisor/ manager, also whether the Royal Familes employees put any pressure on the hospital. I'd be very interested in this becuase of the blame culture that exisits in our society and how these incidents are generally managed by Employers. It was prank that I am sure the 2 Deejays regrett but to demonise them doesn't sit comfortably with me at all
I'd like to know what her employers reaction towards her was after the hoax call e.g Supervisor/ manager, also whether the Royal Familes employees put any pressure on the hospital. I'd be very interested in this becuase of the blame culture that exisits in our society and how these incidents are generally managed by Employers. It was prank that I am sure the 2 Deejays regrett but to demonise them doesn't sit comfortably with me at all Sean35
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1:13pm Sat 8 Dec 12

Arty111 says...

Sad but dont blame the radio announcers...try looking at the british press and the snobs in the medical profession who probably gave the poor nurse a hard time.
Sad but dont blame the radio announcers...try looking at the british press and the snobs in the medical profession who probably gave the poor nurse a hard time. Arty111
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1:44pm Sat 8 Dec 12

Spy Boy says...

I'm very sorry to hear this. My condolences to the nurse's family. Nursing is not an easy job at the best of times and for this nurse to be put under even more pressure is not acceptable.

An enquiry must now be held to see just who pushed her too far. The DJs and their station should bear their share of the blame though. They may have known that the on-air victim of this stunt was going to get her into trouble, but they still went ahead with it, even after running it by their controller. The fact that the station is now getting lots of bad press and losing lucrative contracts is just strike one against them. No doubt lawyers are already sharpening their knives here. As for what action was taken by the Hospital Executives, that will no doubt be brought to light later. If they caused even more stress then this too will be taken into account. Until then, all we say is merely conjecture. The people hurt unneccesarily here are the nurse and her family and William and Kate. I know how I would feel in their position.

It's the sad way of the world these days when fun is to be had by making people look stupid on air, sharing the victim's shame with millions of spectators. Hopefully the equiry will bring about some changes and that these and other pranksters are advised that they may be held responsible for their childish pranks. To be honest, I hope they lose their high profile jobs as broadcasters. The damage that they have done to their company will probably ensure that anyway. They didn't mean for this sort of outcome to their joke, but unfortunately, this has been the knock-on effect. They probably feel bad for all sorts of reasons right now, but I certainly don't feel sorry for them.
I'm very sorry to hear this. My condolences to the nurse's family. Nursing is not an easy job at the best of times and for this nurse to be put under even more pressure is not acceptable. An enquiry must now be held to see just who pushed her too far. The DJs and their station should bear their share of the blame though. They may have known that the on-air victim of this stunt was going to get her into trouble, but they still went ahead with it, even after running it by their controller. The fact that the station is now getting lots of bad press and losing lucrative contracts is just strike one against them. No doubt lawyers are already sharpening their knives here. As for what action was taken by the Hospital Executives, that will no doubt be brought to light later. If they caused even more stress then this too will be taken into account. Until then, all we say is merely conjecture. The people hurt unneccesarily here are the nurse and her family and William and Kate. I know how I would feel in their position. It's the sad way of the world these days when fun is to be had by making people look stupid on air, sharing the victim's shame with millions of spectators. Hopefully the equiry will bring about some changes and that these and other pranksters are advised that they may be held responsible for their childish pranks. To be honest, I hope they lose their high profile jobs as broadcasters. The damage that they have done to their company will probably ensure that anyway. They didn't mean for this sort of outcome to their joke, but unfortunately, this has been the knock-on effect. They probably feel bad for all sorts of reasons right now, but I certainly don't feel sorry for them. Spy Boy
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5:40pm Sat 8 Dec 12

Voice-of-reality says...

1. Has suicide been proved? - No.
2. Did the nurse in question reveal sensitive information? - No: she merely transferred the call to the ward.
3. If it was suicide and if that was due to transferring a call - it would suggest that the NHS is not rigorous enough in ensuring that the staff it appoints are robust of person.
1. Has suicide been proved? - No. 2. Did the nurse in question reveal sensitive information? - No: she merely transferred the call to the ward. 3. If it was suicide and if that was due to transferring a call - it would suggest that the NHS is not rigorous enough in ensuring that the staff it appoints are robust of person. Voice-of-reality
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6:07pm Sat 8 Dec 12

loonyleft says...

In all the reports i have watched,the nurse was not disiplined,in one newspaper she was reported as being a quiet and nervous sort of person,that's why you should ask permission before you humiliate people in public.
In all the reports i have watched,the nurse was not disiplined,in one newspaper she was reported as being a quiet and nervous sort of person,that's why you should ask permission before you humiliate people in public. loonyleft
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6:51pm Sat 8 Dec 12

kirblebarblebumblebee says...

I find it hard to believe that the hospital would not have been sternly reprimanded by the Royal Family, this in turn would have been passed onto the staff involved then add that to the overreacting media frenzy. It takes a strong person to take such treatment. You only have to look at the Levison enquiry to see what the press can do to peoples lives.

This nurse was just doing her job - caring for other people and should not have been subjected to idiot dj's trying to make themselves look good, then bragging about it afterwards.
I find it hard to believe that the hospital would not have been sternly reprimanded by the Royal Family, this in turn would have been passed onto the staff involved then add that to the overreacting media frenzy. It takes a strong person to take such treatment. You only have to look at the Levison enquiry to see what the press can do to peoples lives. This nurse was just doing her job - caring for other people and should not have been subjected to idiot dj's trying to make themselves look good, then bragging about it afterwards. kirblebarblebumblebee
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7:36pm Sat 8 Dec 12

frankyboy says...

I think Mark Wilkinson is pretty much spot on here.

The only thing I wonder is whether the hospital are being honest in their 'supporting her at this difficult time' comment. Would she have been subject to disciplinary proceedings for her error, to the extent that even her job was at risk? I don't know; but these two DJs pulled a prank, that's all it was (and it was a good one to be honest) and no-one could have predicted this sad outcome.
I think Mark Wilkinson is pretty much spot on here. The only thing I wonder is whether the hospital are being honest in their 'supporting her at this difficult time' comment. Would she have been subject to disciplinary proceedings for her error, to the extent that even her job was at risk? I don't know; but these two DJs pulled a prank, that's all it was (and it was a good one to be honest) and no-one could have predicted this sad outcome. frankyboy
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11:28am Sun 9 Dec 12

Kilma- says...

Lets all crucify two innocent radio presenters instead of focussing on the real reasons this happened.

This country's media corporations are a joke and sheep that believe all the crap they shovel at us aren't much better!
Lets all crucify two innocent radio presenters instead of focussing on the real reasons this happened. This country's media corporations are a joke and sheep that believe all the crap they shovel at us aren't much better! Kilma-
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12:11pm Sun 9 Dec 12

paulinebradford says...

In the sun news paper its says if you can believe it.it said when the call was put through could they speak to kate her granddaughter(daught
er-in-law) so that should have said something.also surely in even in australia they must have realised it was 5.30am over here.In the future hopefully they will think before they make any other calls.Either way even if events hadnt taken such a dramatic turn.It should never have happened.were they that bored to have to try and find out about severe morning sickness.newspaper must be rubbish if thats the best they can come up with.kate isnt the only one to suffer this condition,so why not leave her alone.
In the sun news paper its says if you can believe it.it said when the call was put through could they speak to kate her granddaughter(daught er-in-law) so that should have said something.also surely in even in australia they must have realised it was 5.30am over here.In the future hopefully they will think before they make any other calls.Either way even if events hadnt taken such a dramatic turn.It should never have happened.were they that bored to have to try and find out about severe morning sickness.newspaper must be rubbish if thats the best they can come up with.kate isnt the only one to suffer this condition,so why not leave her alone. paulinebradford
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5:29pm Sun 9 Dec 12

st-george1 says...

Why should we tolerate pranksters, fraudsters and abusers in today’s world seeking to be worshipped and allowed to believe they are immune to punishment … how wrong can these people be … they’re misfits who are given intensive psychological counselling because they now feel guilty for their self-boasting abusive and offensive behaviour … with no thoughts or apologies for the victims !
Why should we tolerate pranksters, fraudsters and abusers in today’s world seeking to be worshipped and allowed to believe they are immune to punishment … how wrong can these people be … they’re misfits who are given intensive psychological counselling because they now feel guilty for their self-boasting abusive and offensive behaviour … with no thoughts or apologies for the victims ! st-george1
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6:12pm Sun 9 Dec 12

Voice-of-reality says...

Not aware of shrine building to the presenters yet - st george - though perhaps it could be an alternative to the usual idol worship of Christmas. Not sure as to how qualified you are with regard to pronouncing them misfits and with regard to punishment - no crime has yet been proven.
Not aware of shrine building to the presenters yet - st george - though perhaps it could be an alternative to the usual idol worship of Christmas. Not sure as to how qualified you are with regard to pronouncing them misfits and with regard to punishment - no crime has yet been proven. Voice-of-reality
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9:59pm Sun 9 Dec 12

tomtopper says...

This wasn't some playground prank Mark.. The prank was in more than bad taste.. Playing jokes on someone rushed into hospital with pregnancy problems isn't funny I'm afraid...
The fact it's a Royal amplifies the above statement tenfold..

The fact the nurse took the ramifications of this episode seriously enough to take her own life does not make her deranged..unlike the Dj's.

Also unlike the DJ's, she may well have been selfless and sensitive enough to be heavily affected by the whole thing.. Some people do, Mark.
This wasn't some playground prank Mark.. The prank was in more than bad taste.. Playing jokes on someone rushed into hospital with pregnancy problems isn't funny I'm afraid... The fact it's a Royal amplifies the above statement tenfold.. The fact the nurse took the ramifications of this episode seriously enough to take her own life does not make her deranged..unlike the Dj's. Also unlike the DJ's, she may well have been selfless and sensitive enough to be heavily affected by the whole thing.. Some people do, Mark. tomtopper
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11:37pm Sun 9 Dec 12

Browsing says...

I for one, laughed at the recording when I first heard it. As the DJ's admitted the accent was terrible. The results of the prank are extremely tragic and could never have been forseen. Don't forget the DJ's would not have realised that they would have been put straight through to a nurse. A nurse should not be the first to answer a phone, which in turn begs the question why a hospital with a very high profile patient does not maintain 24 hour admin staff. Yet another result of cost cutting I think. Based on comments above by a number of people who read the British newspapers, following the prank, the true culprits are probably, yet again, the British press.
It was a light hearted prank, which was not done to cause any harm. The DJ's, I hope are now full of remorse, but on no account deserve some of the vile comments and threats which have been targetted at them.
Sadly, the family and friends of the nurse will never get over this tragic event.
I for one, laughed at the recording when I first heard it. As the DJ's admitted the accent was terrible. The results of the prank are extremely tragic and could never have been forseen. Don't forget the DJ's would not have realised that they would have been put straight through to a nurse. A nurse should not be the first to answer a phone, which in turn begs the question why a hospital with a very high profile patient does not maintain 24 hour admin staff. Yet another result of cost cutting I think. Based on comments above by a number of people who read the British newspapers, following the prank, the true culprits are probably, yet again, the British press. It was a light hearted prank, which was not done to cause any harm. The DJ's, I hope are now full of remorse, but on no account deserve some of the vile comments and threats which have been targetted at them. Sadly, the family and friends of the nurse will never get over this tragic event. Browsing
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11:54pm Sun 9 Dec 12

tomtopper says...

Browsing wrote:
I for one, laughed at the recording when I first heard it. As the DJ's admitted the accent was terrible. The results of the prank are extremely tragic and could never have been forseen. Don't forget the DJ's would not have realised that they would have been put straight through to a nurse. A nurse should not be the first to answer a phone, which in turn begs the question why a hospital with a very high profile patient does not maintain 24 hour admin staff. Yet another result of cost cutting I think. Based on comments above by a number of people who read the British newspapers, following the prank, the true culprits are probably, yet again, the British press.
It was a light hearted prank, which was not done to cause any harm. The DJ's, I hope are now full of remorse, but on no account deserve some of the vile comments and threats which have been targetted at them.
Sadly, the family and friends of the nurse will never get over this tragic event.
It depends on the number they had...

But the fact remains, it was a hospital, not a health club or something...A hospital... Not funny at all, in my eyes.. I mean what's funny about ringing somewhere one goes for operations, treatments and emergency care... What if Kate had took a serious turn, or worse? It could've happened, as it was the very reason she was there...
Why shouldn't a nurse answer the phone.. It's a Hospital..

Those who found it funny may want to remember that the next time one of their family's in hospital and see if they would fid it amusing were someone to ring up pretending to be family...
[quote][p][bold]Browsing[/bold] wrote: I for one, laughed at the recording when I first heard it. As the DJ's admitted the accent was terrible. The results of the prank are extremely tragic and could never have been forseen. Don't forget the DJ's would not have realised that they would have been put straight through to a nurse. A nurse should not be the first to answer a phone, which in turn begs the question why a hospital with a very high profile patient does not maintain 24 hour admin staff. Yet another result of cost cutting I think. Based on comments above by a number of people who read the British newspapers, following the prank, the true culprits are probably, yet again, the British press. It was a light hearted prank, which was not done to cause any harm. The DJ's, I hope are now full of remorse, but on no account deserve some of the vile comments and threats which have been targetted at them. Sadly, the family and friends of the nurse will never get over this tragic event.[/p][/quote]It depends on the number they had... But the fact remains, it was a hospital, not a health club or something...A hospital... Not funny at all, in my eyes.. I mean what's funny about ringing somewhere one goes for operations, treatments and emergency care... What if Kate had took a serious turn, or worse? It could've happened, as it was the very reason she was there... Why shouldn't a nurse answer the phone.. It's a Hospital.. Those who found it funny may want to remember that the next time one of their family's in hospital and see if they would fid it amusing were someone to ring up pretending to be family... tomtopper
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11:36am Mon 10 Dec 12

glyn says...

The prank itself was pathetic in that their accents were so comical and this should have been picked up on immediately. We have always had pranks and long may they continue. They are generally very funny.

Regarding the suicide, lets wait for the facts, did she leave a note saying why she did it

We have had people taking their lives for many reasons including breakdown of relationships, finance, family, redundancy, drink, deportation and bullying.

There may be other reasons for the alleged suicide.

I am so sorry for her family, friends, the media in this country who caused it and the 2 Australians who carried out the prank in which they admitted was too easy.

It should not have succeeded but due to the hospital incompetence-it did
The prank itself was pathetic in that their accents were so comical and this should have been picked up on immediately. We have always had pranks and long may they continue. They are generally very funny. Regarding the suicide, lets wait for the facts, did she leave a note saying why she did it We have had people taking their lives for many reasons including breakdown of relationships, finance, family, redundancy, drink, deportation and bullying. There may be other reasons for the alleged suicide. I am so sorry for her family, friends, the media in this country who caused it and the 2 Australians who carried out the prank in which they admitted was too easy. It should not have succeeded but due to the hospital incompetence-it did glyn
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5:26pm Mon 10 Dec 12

mark.wilkinson says...

tomtopper wrote:
This wasn't some playground prank Mark.. The prank was in more than bad taste.. Playing jokes on someone rushed into hospital with pregnancy problems isn't funny I'm afraid...
The fact it's a Royal amplifies the above statement tenfold..

The fact the nurse took the ramifications of this episode seriously enough to take her own life does not make her deranged..unlike the Dj's.

Also unlike the DJ's, she may well have been selfless and sensitive enough to be heavily affected by the whole thing.. Some people do, Mark.
Oh behave will you.

It was a joke. Period!

And the woman who killed herself as a result of this prank was quite clearly unhinged. And definately shouldn't have been working in a hospital - but should have instead been sectioned within one.
I hope the DJ's involved don't feel bad about this as it was nothing that millions of people do every single day.

The hospital have today said that she was not reprimanded at all regarding this incident.

So there you have it. She killed herself for the sake of a 5 second phone call.

My sympathys lie with the 2 Aussie DJ's.
[quote][p][bold]tomtopper[/bold] wrote: This wasn't some playground prank Mark.. The prank was in more than bad taste.. Playing jokes on someone rushed into hospital with pregnancy problems isn't funny I'm afraid... The fact it's a Royal amplifies the above statement tenfold.. The fact the nurse took the ramifications of this episode seriously enough to take her own life does not make her deranged..unlike the Dj's. Also unlike the DJ's, she may well have been selfless and sensitive enough to be heavily affected by the whole thing.. Some people do, Mark.[/p][/quote]Oh behave will you. It was a joke. Period! And the woman who killed herself as a result of this prank was quite clearly unhinged. And definately shouldn't have been working in a hospital - but should have instead been sectioned within one. I hope the DJ's involved don't feel bad about this as it was nothing that millions of people do every single day. The hospital have today said that she was not reprimanded at all regarding this incident. So there you have it. She killed herself for the sake of a 5 second phone call. My sympathys lie with the 2 Aussie DJ's. mark.wilkinson
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8:02pm Mon 10 Dec 12

Lucy91 says...

Prank call type comedy can easily cross a line and this one clearly has.Firstly a hospital is not really the sort of place to be joking around in,people are busy and distracting them can have serious impact on patient care.

Also,patient confidentiality has to be respected and they have tried to go round this.I can tell you from first hand experience that morning sickness is no joking matter- who do these people think they are clowning around like this? Kate and William will now also have what should be an exciting time for them associated with sad memories of what it indirectly caused.

Admittedly the nurse involved must have had other issues to deal with,but this has just pushed her over the edge.Its just another form of bullying ringing someone up like this.And now the two DJs involved will have to live with what they have done.We all have to think about our actions and their possible outcomes.

And the previous letter saying she was "unhinged"-that is just a cruel way of describing someone who has problems.I hope you never suffer like that yourself mark wilkinnson and people describe you in the same way.
Prank call type comedy can easily cross a line and this one clearly has.Firstly a hospital is not really the sort of place to be joking around in,people are busy and distracting them can have serious impact on patient care. Also,patient confidentiality has to be respected and they have tried to go round this.I can tell you from first hand experience that morning sickness is no joking matter- who do these people think they are clowning around like this? Kate and William will now also have what should be an exciting time for them associated with sad memories of what it indirectly caused. Admittedly the nurse involved must have had other issues to deal with,but this has just pushed her over the edge.Its just another form of bullying ringing someone up like this.And now the two DJs involved will have to live with what they have done.We all have to think about our actions and their possible outcomes. And the previous letter saying she was "unhinged"-that is just a cruel way of describing someone who has problems.I hope you never suffer like that yourself mark wilkinnson and people describe you in the same way. Lucy91
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8:25pm Mon 10 Dec 12

JOrd8531 says...

They should be sacked permanently, and do have blood on their hands, they should also be brought to justice and lynched in front of that poor woman's family who died, after they effectively and might have well of killed her, as she took her own life because of them, after she probably got bollocked around the room by her superiors and given her sacking with a P45, for revealing personal information, about the Duchess of Cambridge, but it's also her fault as well because that ****, should've just got on with it and taken a pregnancy test likek any other normal person, to find out if she was up the duff or not, rather than get taken to hospital for two days because she puked up as a Royal, she's turning in to another Princess Diana, finding her man, and determined in what she wants, she also need a hair cut because that hair of hers annoys me, as well as half of the country I pressume, but mark my words for aother divorce on the way, and maybe another Royal cover-up lighting does strick twice, it happened to Middlesbroigh Football Club, so it can happen again!
They should be sacked permanently, and do have blood on their hands, they should also be brought to justice and lynched in front of that poor woman's family who died, after they effectively and might have well of killed her, as she took her own life because of them, after she probably got bollocked around the room by her superiors and given her sacking with a P45, for revealing personal information, about the Duchess of Cambridge, but it's also her fault as well because that ****, should've just got on with it and taken a pregnancy test likek any other normal person, to find out if she was up the duff or not, rather than get taken to hospital for two days because she puked up as a Royal, she's turning in to another Princess Diana, finding her man, and determined in what she wants, she also need a hair cut because that hair of hers annoys me, as well as half of the country I pressume, but mark my words for aother divorce on the way, and maybe another Royal cover-up lighting does strick twice, it happened to Middlesbroigh Football Club, so it can happen again! JOrd8531
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9:45pm Mon 10 Dec 12

mark.wilkinson says...

Lucy91 wrote:
Prank call type comedy can easily cross a line and this one clearly has.Firstly a hospital is not really the sort of place to be joking around in,people are busy and distracting them can have serious impact on patient care.

Also,patient confidentiality has to be respected and they have tried to go round this.I can tell you from first hand experience that morning sickness is no joking matter- who do these people think they are clowning around like this? Kate and William will now also have what should be an exciting time for them associated with sad memories of what it indirectly caused.

Admittedly the nurse involved must have had other issues to deal with,but this has just pushed her over the edge.Its just another form of bullying ringing someone up like this.And now the two DJs involved will have to live with what they have done.We all have to think about our actions and their possible outcomes.

And the previous letter saying she was "unhinged"-that is just a cruel way of describing someone who has problems.I hope you never suffer like that yourself mark wilkinnson and people describe you in the same way.
You said it - she had problems.

I rest my case.

And she was undoubtably unhinged. Can you think of a better way of describing her? Other than saying she had 'problems' which strikes me as a massive understatement!

Oh and by the way, if I was unhinged, I'd want telling so. I certainly wouldn't want the **** footing around approach that seems increasingly fashionable these days.

As for this being bullying - that's just about the most rediculous thing I've read so far. Get back to your Guardian newspaper dear. Truly pathetic!

Reading some of the 'holier than thou' statements on here makes me cringe. What a bunch of cretinous self righteous idiots.
[quote][p][bold]Lucy91[/bold] wrote: Prank call type comedy can easily cross a line and this one clearly has.Firstly a hospital is not really the sort of place to be joking around in,people are busy and distracting them can have serious impact on patient care. Also,patient confidentiality has to be respected and they have tried to go round this.I can tell you from first hand experience that morning sickness is no joking matter- who do these people think they are clowning around like this? Kate and William will now also have what should be an exciting time for them associated with sad memories of what it indirectly caused. Admittedly the nurse involved must have had other issues to deal with,but this has just pushed her over the edge.Its just another form of bullying ringing someone up like this.And now the two DJs involved will have to live with what they have done.We all have to think about our actions and their possible outcomes. And the previous letter saying she was "unhinged"-that is just a cruel way of describing someone who has problems.I hope you never suffer like that yourself mark wilkinnson and people describe you in the same way.[/p][/quote]You said it - she had problems. I rest my case. And she was undoubtably unhinged. Can you think of a better way of describing her? Other than saying she had 'problems' which strikes me as a massive understatement! Oh and by the way, if I was unhinged, I'd want telling so. I certainly wouldn't want the **** footing around approach that seems increasingly fashionable these days. As for this being bullying - that's just about the most rediculous thing I've read so far. Get back to your Guardian newspaper dear. Truly pathetic! Reading some of the 'holier than thou' statements on here makes me cringe. What a bunch of cretinous self righteous idiots. mark.wilkinson
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9:48pm Mon 10 Dec 12

mark.wilkinson says...

JOrd8531 wrote:
They should be sacked permanently, and do have blood on their hands, they should also be brought to justice and lynched in front of that poor woman's family who died, after they effectively and might have well of killed her, as she took her own life because of them, after she probably got bollocked around the room by her superiors and given her sacking with a P45, for revealing personal information, about the Duchess of Cambridge, but it's also her fault as well because that ****, should've just got on with it and taken a pregnancy test likek any other normal person, to find out if she was up the duff or not, rather than get taken to hospital for two days because she puked up as a Royal, she's turning in to another Princess Diana, finding her man, and determined in what she wants, she also need a hair cut because that hair of hers annoys me, as well as half of the country I pressume, but mark my words for aother divorce on the way, and maybe another Royal cover-up lighting does strick twice, it happened to Middlesbroigh Football Club, so it can happen again!
One word.

TW4T
[quote][p][bold]JOrd8531[/bold] wrote: They should be sacked permanently, and do have blood on their hands, they should also be brought to justice and lynched in front of that poor woman's family who died, after they effectively and might have well of killed her, as she took her own life because of them, after she probably got bollocked around the room by her superiors and given her sacking with a P45, for revealing personal information, about the Duchess of Cambridge, but it's also her fault as well because that ****, should've just got on with it and taken a pregnancy test likek any other normal person, to find out if she was up the duff or not, rather than get taken to hospital for two days because she puked up as a Royal, she's turning in to another Princess Diana, finding her man, and determined in what she wants, she also need a hair cut because that hair of hers annoys me, as well as half of the country I pressume, but mark my words for aother divorce on the way, and maybe another Royal cover-up lighting does strick twice, it happened to Middlesbroigh Football Club, so it can happen again![/p][/quote]One word. TW4T mark.wilkinson
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11:25am Tue 11 Dec 12

the-big-yin says...

Sean35 wrote:
I'd like to know what her employers reaction towards her was after the hoax call e.g Supervisor/ manager, also whether the Royal Familes employees put any pressure on the hospital. I'd be very interested in this becuase of the blame culture that exisits in our society and how these incidents are generally managed by Employers. It was prank that I am sure the 2 Deejays regrett but to demonise them doesn't sit comfortably with me at all
common sense here...the dj-s are paid to work in that way..there was no harm intended...the nurse may have had a bollocking from the hospital over it..i bet the hospital have no records of reprimanding her now...any underlying problems? who knows.....it is sad but there was no intention to cause harm ....what have we got to do? stop all jokes...nanny state is not needed....
[quote][p][bold]Sean35[/bold] wrote: I'd like to know what her employers reaction towards her was after the hoax call e.g Supervisor/ manager, also whether the Royal Familes employees put any pressure on the hospital. I'd be very interested in this becuase of the blame culture that exisits in our society and how these incidents are generally managed by Employers. It was prank that I am sure the 2 Deejays regrett but to demonise them doesn't sit comfortably with me at all[/p][/quote]common sense here...the dj-s are paid to work in that way..there was no harm intended...the nurse may have had a bollocking from the hospital over it..i bet the hospital have no records of reprimanding her now...any underlying problems? who knows.....it is sad but there was no intention to cause harm ....what have we got to do? stop all jokes...nanny state is not needed.... the-big-yin
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9:03pm Tue 11 Dec 12

Lucy91 says...

the-big-yin wrote:
Sean35 wrote:
I'd like to know what her employers reaction towards her was after the hoax call e.g Supervisor/ manager, also whether the Royal Familes employees put any pressure on the hospital. I'd be very interested in this becuase of the blame culture that exisits in our society and how these incidents are generally managed by Employers. It was prank that I am sure the 2 Deejays regrett but to demonise them doesn't sit comfortably with me at all
common sense here...the dj-s are paid to work in that way..there was no harm intended...the nurse may have had a bollocking from the hospital over it..i bet the hospital have no records of reprimanding her now...any underlying problems? who knows.....it is sad but there was no intention to cause harm ....what have we got to do? stop all jokes...nanny state is not needed....
I thought hospitals were serious places,where ill and even seriously ill patients are treated?I love a good mock interview-Sascha Cohen etc,but calling people when they are working is just a wastefull distraction.

I'm sure you hate unsolicited phone calls to your house-so why is it okay to call a hospital and waste peoples time just for your own purpose.Its the same thing isn't it?
[quote][p][bold]the-big-yin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sean35[/bold] wrote: I'd like to know what her employers reaction towards her was after the hoax call e.g Supervisor/ manager, also whether the Royal Familes employees put any pressure on the hospital. I'd be very interested in this becuase of the blame culture that exisits in our society and how these incidents are generally managed by Employers. It was prank that I am sure the 2 Deejays regrett but to demonise them doesn't sit comfortably with me at all[/p][/quote]common sense here...the dj-s are paid to work in that way..there was no harm intended...the nurse may have had a bollocking from the hospital over it..i bet the hospital have no records of reprimanding her now...any underlying problems? who knows.....it is sad but there was no intention to cause harm ....what have we got to do? stop all jokes...nanny state is not needed....[/p][/quote]I thought hospitals were serious places,where ill and even seriously ill patients are treated?I love a good mock interview-Sascha Cohen etc,but calling people when they are working is just a wastefull distraction. I'm sure you hate unsolicited phone calls to your house-so why is it okay to call a hospital and waste peoples time just for your own purpose.Its the same thing isn't it? Lucy91
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9:13pm Tue 11 Dec 12

Lucy91 says...

mark.wilkinson wrote:
Lucy91 wrote:
Prank call type comedy can easily cross a line and this one clearly has.Firstly a hospital is not really the sort of place to be joking around in,people are busy and distracting them can have serious impact on patient care.

Also,patient confidentiality has to be respected and they have tried to go round this.I can tell you from first hand experience that morning sickness is no joking matter- who do these people think they are clowning around like this? Kate and William will now also have what should be an exciting time for them associated with sad memories of what it indirectly caused.

Admittedly the nurse involved must have had other issues to deal with,but this has just pushed her over the edge.Its just another form of bullying ringing someone up like this.And now the two DJs involved will have to live with what they have done.We all have to think about our actions and their possible outcomes.

And the previous letter saying she was "unhinged"-that is just a cruel way of describing someone who has problems.I hope you never suffer like that yourself mark wilkinnson and people describe you in the same way.
You said it - she had problems.

I rest my case.

And she was undoubtably unhinged. Can you think of a better way of describing her? Other than saying she had 'problems' which strikes me as a massive understatement!

Oh and by the way, if I was unhinged, I'd want telling so. I certainly wouldn't want the **** footing around approach that seems increasingly fashionable these days.

As for this being bullying - that's just about the most rediculous thing I've read so far. Get back to your Guardian newspaper dear. Truly pathetic!

Reading some of the 'holier than thou' statements on here makes me cringe. What a bunch of cretinous self righteous idiots.
At what point did I show who I would vote for in an election in this comment?But you're wrong about the type of paper I read.

If you're "unhinged" as you call it it's not a sign of weakness,it's an illness.You can't just have people remind you that you are and make yourself better.Just as you can't necessarily make yourself well from cancer,MS or polio.

And nice to be called 'dear'.Patronising.
[quote][p][bold]mark.wilkinson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lucy91[/bold] wrote: Prank call type comedy can easily cross a line and this one clearly has.Firstly a hospital is not really the sort of place to be joking around in,people are busy and distracting them can have serious impact on patient care. Also,patient confidentiality has to be respected and they have tried to go round this.I can tell you from first hand experience that morning sickness is no joking matter- who do these people think they are clowning around like this? Kate and William will now also have what should be an exciting time for them associated with sad memories of what it indirectly caused. Admittedly the nurse involved must have had other issues to deal with,but this has just pushed her over the edge.Its just another form of bullying ringing someone up like this.And now the two DJs involved will have to live with what they have done.We all have to think about our actions and their possible outcomes. And the previous letter saying she was "unhinged"-that is just a cruel way of describing someone who has problems.I hope you never suffer like that yourself mark wilkinnson and people describe you in the same way.[/p][/quote]You said it - she had problems. I rest my case. And she was undoubtably unhinged. Can you think of a better way of describing her? Other than saying she had 'problems' which strikes me as a massive understatement! Oh and by the way, if I was unhinged, I'd want telling so. I certainly wouldn't want the **** footing around approach that seems increasingly fashionable these days. As for this being bullying - that's just about the most rediculous thing I've read so far. Get back to your Guardian newspaper dear. Truly pathetic! Reading some of the 'holier than thou' statements on here makes me cringe. What a bunch of cretinous self righteous idiots.[/p][/quote]At what point did I show who I would vote for in an election in this comment?But you're wrong about the type of paper I read. If you're "unhinged" as you call it it's not a sign of weakness,it's an illness.You can't just have people remind you that you are and make yourself better.Just as you can't necessarily make yourself well from cancer,MS or polio. And nice to be called 'dear'.Patronising. Lucy91
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3:32pm Thu 13 Dec 12

pandorica says...

The press ring our hospital about patients pretending to be either Police or Neighbours, but either way they leave knowing nothing. The nurse here clearly wasnt rational and of a balanced mind when killing herself. I had heard she thought she had brought shame on her family, so all in all i think she must of felt pretty low to do this. I feel sorry for this ladys children losing their mother. I think whatever happened you could never of invisaged this happening, and even when it was meant as a joke another nurse may not of took the same actions. WE will never know.
The press ring our hospital about patients pretending to be either Police or Neighbours, but either way they leave knowing nothing. The nurse here clearly wasnt rational and of a balanced mind when killing herself. I had heard she thought she had brought shame on her family, so all in all i think she must of felt pretty low to do this. I feel sorry for this ladys children losing their mother. I think whatever happened you could never of invisaged this happening, and even when it was meant as a joke another nurse may not of took the same actions. WE will never know. pandorica
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