Wheelie bins - a rubbish idea or an offer you can't refuse?

The Northern Echo: OPPOSING VIEWS: Will bin bags be replaced? OPPOSING VIEWS: Will bin bags be replaced?

DARLINGTON Borough Council has divided the town with plans to replace bin bags with wheelie bins. The Northern Echo highlights opposing views on the plans

FOR: Darlington borough councillor Nick Wallis, cabinet member with responsibility for local environment

REFUSE collection is a council service that affects every household in Darlington.

The arguments to switch to wheelie bins, however, were overwhelming. The council has come under pressure from the Health and Safety Executive to make our refuse collections safer for staff. Wheelie bins are the only way forward which fully meet the bill. Experience shows they lead to less street litter, as black bags are prone to attack from foxes and crows.

The health and safety argument was a compelling case for change, and is why it would have been wrong to engage in a lengthy and costly consultation process.

In fact, most people will notice little difference, apart from the physical presence of the bins.

There will be a standard sized bin for each household for all your rubbish, although you can request a larger bin if you have a larger family.

Some people might need extra help with their bins and we are ready to meet these extra needs. Your local councillors are best placed to listen to residents’ views, and I have asked them to liaise with officers after taking soundings around their wards.

We will work hard to make sure the new bins do not impede those in wheelchairs, for example, by encouraging residents to keep them strictly within the curtilage of their properties.

Wheelie bins operate successfully around the UK, and there is no reason why this shouldn’t be the case now in Darlington.

AGAINST: Gordon Pybus, chairman of Darlington Association on Disability

AS a wheelchair user, these changes will affect me, but I am more concerned about people across Darlington who have mobility issues or visual impairment.

There are two wheelie bin problems that people will face – those that will happen to people as homeowners, and the problems they will encounter as they try to make their way around the town.

Most houses will have a wheelie bin, but if you are in a wheelchair, the height of the bins will cause a problem.

It will be a struggle to put heavy rubbish in the bin They say we can have smaller bins, but why would you want that when they have already said they will only take the rubbish that fits in the bin?

The council said it will offer support to put the bins out by the kerbside if you are disabled, as it does now with black bin bags, but I’ve lost count of the number of times I’ve had to go searching for the bin lid or heard complaints about the service.

Within the confines of your own property you can complain to the council if the assisted collection is not as it should be, but when you are on the streets it’s a different matter.

Bin bags, or wheelie bins, block the pavements, making them too narrow to negotiate a wheelchair. If you are visually impaired, it’s a nightmare.

The council say obstructions won’t happen, but it happens with black bin bags.

In other towns I have to travel on the road because the wheelie bins obstruct most of the pavement.

Hear All Sides

SO Darlington Borough Council has decided in its usual arrogant manner that spending £1m on large lumps of plastic is the way to go (Echo, May 11).

No ifs or buts, that’s your lot – the council has spoken.

It strikes me that buying bins is the easy bit, but how to operate the system is another matter due to the varying construction of households in Darlington.

It would be nice if we had at least some inkling as to how the system would operate. You can bet your boots that it will involve more physical effort by taxpayers.

The change seems to be based on the fear the council may be sued by binmen injured by the contents of black plastic bags.

What is simpler than picking up black plastic bags and putting them in a bin wagon?

Perhaps all the bins will be parked in the market square? Think of the savings the council would make then.

I hope that all our councillors look carefully at how the system will operate in their wards and be ready with some answers. I can guarantee that will not be an easy task – Steve Hodgson, Darlington.

I HAVE recently moved to Darlington from Nottingham and I was absolutely delighted that there were no wheelie bins to deal with.

Please Darlington Borough Council, reconsider burdening Darlington with these monstrosities and provide us with thicker plastic bags if that is what the problem is.

Bins are heavy for some members of the community to move, cumbersome and they look unsightly sprawled around the area.

People forget to put them out and they are not collected, which causes a hygiene problem, also overfill them, leave them out on the pavement, which becomes dangerous for older people having to negotiate them, you end up chasing your bin down the road from where it has been left by the refuse collectors.

Eventually they multiply and you end up with three bins – one for general refuse, one for recycled refuse and one for garden refuse.

In a town with lots of terraced houses, they would be difficult to operate, eg would the refuse collectors be able to pick up bins in back streets? I don’t think so, as there would not be enough room for the bins and the collection transport to get down the lanes.

My daughter lives in Wandsworth and they have a really good system, and provide different coloured bags for different refuse picked up on different days.

They are thrown into a lorry and the street is restored immediately.

Please think this through as I think it is a backward step to go with wheelie bins, apart from the obvious cost to the public purse – Joy Mills, Darlington.

THE Conservative Group on Darlington Borough Council, having considered all the issues and listened to residents’ views, are opposed to the introduction of wheelie bins.

There has been no consultation on this proposal, the financial implications were not part of the recent budget consideration, and we have not had any answers as to where the money is coming from.

The speed which this policy is being introduced is unacceptable and leaves too many unanswered questions. – Heather Scott, leader of the Conservative group.

Word on the tweet

WE asked Twitter users what they thought of the plans. Here are some of the responses.

@darlobikegirl Can’t WAIT for #wheeliebin it’ll stop my bin bags getting ripped to shreds by animals & making a mess the binmen won’t clean

@chrismarksby I used to live in Darlington and I’m moving back later this year! Stockton have #Goodmove

@cjhillen Good & long overdue. Bin men consistently fail to clean rubbish they leave behind in our street from torn bags

@elleeb About time, leaving black bags out for rats/foxes/birds to pull to pieces is unhygienic!

@Stevecathutch Not having those abominations in Darlo if I can help it. No, no and no

@Red_knight05 Time that darlo caught up with the times

@gillcartwright Mixed response from Harrowgate Hill, elderly don’t seem keen, concerned about physically being able to wheel them out

@ralphnaden About time. No more vermin infested black sacks blowing about. Easy to clean too. People forgotten those tin bins??

@Markodarlo If they are made in Germany I don’t want one! #keepitbritish

@DawnNJ71 Hate them! And what about the cost??

@funksoulHulk As long as collections done properly and regular i couldnt care less. less mess and animals cant get in

@JustJonC Yes please, much better than bags of rubbish all over the street

@darlostewy Waste of money on something that is not needed. Surely the council can spend a million pounds on better services

@JoCam211 Love the idea as will stop cats getting in rubbish but not practical where I live no road front or back of my house

@djbobw I’m all for them, as long as they buy British. For me, fornightly would be ok for rubbish & recycling

@norahsmiles I personally would LOVE a wheeliebin!

@PoliticsNE I really don’t mind one way or the other

@miketually I’m for: less mess on collection day; easier to store without animals getting in. Can understand why some are against though

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8:40am Wed 16 May 12

Madadrian says...

Where the hell do they expect us to store these things? they are not our property they belong to the local authority. Would we be threatened with fines for refusing to store them on our property? This sounds like another green bin fiasco. We had one of those dumped on our doorstep with no explanation as to what it was for. Last seen it was flying down the street in a high wind.

I live in a terraced house and can manage quite well with carrying bin bags out to the back lane. One at a time if I have more than one that week.

What I don't want or need is the aggrivation and risk of dragging one of these things up steps in winter when there is ice on the ground. As for support- Am I supposed to leave my yard gates unlocked for any thief to walk in or am I supposed to stay in my home all day on collection day waiting for a knock on the front door so I can open the yard gates.

What about my health and safety? I'm not getting paid for it and I don't have insurance cover to pay out in the event of another accident.

Perhaps Wallis can tell us how many injuries have been caused over the last 20 years to refuse collectors lifting bin bags into the back of a wagon and what the nature of those injuries were.

I have lived here 20 years and used to know a couple of refuse collectors in our local pub team. I have never heard any of them complaining about the danger they faced from lifting bin bags. And when I first came to this town in the 1970s and and for over 22 years after I put my dustbin outside. They seemed to have no problems lifting that into a wagon and tipping the contents inside.
Where the hell do they expect us to store these things? they are not our property they belong to the local authority. Would we be threatened with fines for refusing to store them on our property? This sounds like another green bin fiasco. We had one of those dumped on our doorstep with no explanation as to what it was for. Last seen it was flying down the street in a high wind. I live in a terraced house and can manage quite well with carrying bin bags out to the back lane. One at a time if I have more than one that week. What I don't want or need is the aggrivation and risk of dragging one of these things up steps in winter when there is ice on the ground. As for support- Am I supposed to leave my yard gates unlocked for any thief to walk in or am I supposed to stay in my home all day on collection day waiting for a knock on the front door so I can open the yard gates. What about my health and safety? I'm not getting paid for it and I don't have insurance cover to pay out in the event of another accident. Perhaps Wallis can tell us how many injuries have been caused over the last 20 years to refuse collectors lifting bin bags into the back of a wagon and what the nature of those injuries were. I have lived here 20 years and used to know a couple of refuse collectors in our local pub team. I have never heard any of them complaining about the danger they faced from lifting bin bags. And when I first came to this town in the 1970s and and for over 22 years after I put my dustbin outside. They seemed to have no problems lifting that into a wagon and tipping the contents inside. Madadrian
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8:47am Wed 16 May 12

darlobikegirl says...

91% of the country already have them & have done for years.
They manage, why can't Darlo?
Oh that's right, it's because then there'd be NOTHING left for Darlo to moan about .....
It's clearly the end of the world
91% of the country already have them & have done for years. They manage, why can't Darlo? Oh that's right, it's because then there'd be NOTHING left for Darlo to moan about ..... It's clearly the end of the world darlobikegirl
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9:20am Wed 16 May 12

Madadrian says...

If I lived in my previous home with the garden and path being all on the flat a wheely bin would be no bother.

But I don't and neither do hundreds of others. We live in terrace properties that require steps to reach the back lanes. For those of us getting on in years or disabled in some ways the risk of accident and injury is in my view much greater for us that that of refuse collectors picking up bags of refuse.
If I lived in my previous home with the garden and path being all on the flat a wheely bin would be no bother. But I don't and neither do hundreds of others. We live in terrace properties that require steps to reach the back lanes. For those of us getting on in years or disabled in some ways the risk of accident and injury is in my view much greater for us that that of refuse collectors picking up bags of refuse. Madadrian
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9:35am Wed 16 May 12

Random! says...

They have however stated that people incurring difficulties with manoeuvring the wheelie bins can and will get assistance. Personally they are fair easier and safer to use than lugging plastic bags up and down steps. They do have WHEELS hence wheelie bin which increases there manuverability. I do feel they are a positive move forward and long time coming.
They will also save us a fortune in black bin bags, whilst keeping Darlington cleaner!
They have however stated that people incurring difficulties with manoeuvring the wheelie bins can and will get assistance. Personally they are fair easier and safer to use than lugging plastic bags up and down steps. They do have WHEELS hence wheelie bin which increases there manuverability. I do feel they are a positive move forward and long time coming. They will also save us a fortune in black bin bags, whilst keeping Darlington cleaner! Random!
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10:13am Wed 16 May 12

darlobikegirl says...

20 years ago, growing up in a tiny terrace in Devon, we had wheelie bins - no problems.
Get with the programme Darlo!
20 years ago, growing up in a tiny terrace in Devon, we had wheelie bins - no problems. Get with the programme Darlo! darlobikegirl
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10:22am Wed 16 May 12

GeordieB says...

Just be thankful you're not in Durham County Council's area. They've lumbered us with two per household.

If you don't want a wheeled bin, I'd suggest you write to the Council explaining your storage fee for their property will be 25% of your Council Tax.
Just be thankful you're not in Durham County Council's area. They've lumbered us with two per household. If you don't want a wheeled bin, I'd suggest you write to the Council explaining your storage fee for their property will be 25% of your Council Tax. GeordieB
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10:24am Wed 16 May 12

oliviaden6 says...

People should realise they STINCK/UNSIGHTLY TAKE UP LOTS OF ROOM and we have to keep them clean and smell free and find some where to put them?
Mark my words this is the thin end of the wedge from the Borough, What next a wheelie bin for this and that we will be over run eventually, Go ahead councillors waste more of our hard earned taxes on your hair brained schemes, all without consultation ?????
People should realise they STINCK/UNSIGHTLY TAKE UP LOTS OF ROOM and we have to keep them clean and smell free and find some where to put them? Mark my words this is the thin end of the wedge from the Borough, What next a wheelie bin for this and that we will be over run eventually, Go ahead councillors waste more of our hard earned taxes on your hair brained schemes, all without consultation ????? oliviaden6
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10:50am Wed 16 May 12

morgan1 says...

Honestly, we have had three wheellie bins for years, they do take up some room but the benefits far outway the use of plastic bags, we have main waste, plastic, garden, you can have differnet sizes to suit property. Our main waste is collected once a fortnight and a local company charges £1 to clean it on the same day it is emptied. You are living in the past, its about time you moved on!!!
Honestly, we have had three wheellie bins for years, they do take up some room but the benefits far outway the use of plastic bags, we have main waste, plastic, garden, you can have differnet sizes to suit property. Our main waste is collected once a fortnight and a local company charges £1 to clean it on the same day it is emptied. You are living in the past, its about time you moved on!!! morgan1
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10:52am Wed 16 May 12

The Grim North says...

GeordieB wrote:
Just be thankful you're not in Durham County Council's area. They've lumbered us with two per household. If you don't want a wheeled bin, I'd suggest you write to the Council explaining your storage fee for their property will be 25% of your Council Tax.
Two - and the rest. We have three wheelie bins, one for normal rubbish, a green one for garden waste and one with a blue lid for paper and cans PLUS a box for glass bottles. I don't have a problem with recycling but four seperate bins is a bit OTT.
[quote][p][bold]GeordieB[/bold] wrote: Just be thankful you're not in Durham County Council's area. They've lumbered us with two per household. If you don't want a wheeled bin, I'd suggest you write to the Council explaining your storage fee for their property will be 25% of your Council Tax.[/p][/quote]Two - and the rest. We have three wheelie bins, one for normal rubbish, a green one for garden waste and one with a blue lid for paper and cans PLUS a box for glass bottles. I don't have a problem with recycling but four seperate bins is a bit OTT. The Grim North
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10:59am Wed 16 May 12

detachedbystander says...

I pressed my councillor for wheelie bins. We had reall issues with birds ripping the refuse bags and the contents being blown over the street. Some of the waste was unsanitary. The council refused to listen. This was earlier this year.

So I was delighted to hear that they have had a re-think. Nothing to do with the wishes of tax payers, but due to the health and safety executive. For once, I'm agreement with the health and safety people on this one - but for a diferent reason.

The stated reason for changing was clear. The H&SE calculated that each bin man (person?) in Darlo carried the equivalent of some 7 tonnnes of rubbish per day manually and that this placed them under higher risk levels for muscular and ligament damage due to the weight carried each working day. The recommended weight load per day was 4 tonnes. So the council was advised to either employ more bin persons to reduce the weight carried by each operative per day, or to use whellie bins. If more operatives were employed, these operatives would need to be supervised to ensure that the operatives worked more slowly to make sure that they only picked up circa 4 tonnes per day. Wheelie bins were recommended as no lifting was invlolved and stick/sharps injuried would be avoided as the operatives would not come in to contact with the rubbish.

So the council were faced with two alternatives, each of which meant greater cost pressures for the council/council tax payer.

However, wheelie bins may well leave the door open for the council to introduce fortnightly bin collections.
I pressed my councillor for wheelie bins. We had reall issues with birds ripping the refuse bags and the contents being blown over the street. Some of the waste was unsanitary. The council refused to listen. This was earlier this year. So I was delighted to hear that they have had a re-think. Nothing to do with the wishes of tax payers, but due to the health and safety executive. For once, I'm agreement with the health and safety people on this one - but for a diferent reason. The stated reason for changing was clear. The H&SE calculated that each bin man (person?) in Darlo carried the equivalent of some 7 tonnnes of rubbish per day manually and that this placed them under higher risk levels for muscular and ligament damage due to the weight carried each working day. The recommended weight load per day was 4 tonnes. So the council was advised to either employ more bin persons to reduce the weight carried by each operative per day, or to use whellie bins. If more operatives were employed, these operatives would need to be supervised to ensure that the operatives worked more slowly to make sure that they only picked up circa 4 tonnes per day. Wheelie bins were recommended as no lifting was invlolved and stick/sharps injuried would be avoided as the operatives would not come in to contact with the rubbish. So the council were faced with two alternatives, each of which meant greater cost pressures for the council/council tax payer. However, wheelie bins may well leave the door open for the council to introduce fortnightly bin collections. detachedbystander
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11:13am Wed 16 May 12

freelance says...

Was in areas of County Durham yesterday. Although it was clearly not refuse collection day in them it was just as clear that many areas have been degraded by the sight of w. bins at the front of residences.
Reason many have no access to rear of property for bins.
Bags can be carried through the side/utility entrances.
Many areas of Darlington will be subject to this degrading of residential areas also.
The reason for change is health and safety for operatives - thats sounds good.
The REALITY is operatives in areas where the wagon cannot access - LIFT BAGS FROM SOME BINS INTO OTHERS TO LESSEN THE REQUIRED BIN MOVEMENTS BY THEM.
Darlington should not be slavish followers of what other councils do.
The next thing will be extra bins for other items as in County Durham and more permanent clutter at the front of residences.
Was in areas of County Durham yesterday. Although it was clearly not refuse collection day in them it was just as clear that many areas have been degraded by the sight of w. bins at the front of residences. Reason many have no access to rear of property for bins. Bags can be carried through the side/utility entrances. Many areas of Darlington will be subject to this degrading of residential areas also. The reason for change is health and safety for operatives - thats sounds good. The REALITY is operatives in areas where the wagon cannot access - LIFT BAGS FROM SOME BINS INTO OTHERS TO LESSEN THE REQUIRED BIN MOVEMENTS BY THEM. Darlington should not be slavish followers of what other councils do. The next thing will be extra bins for other items as in County Durham and more permanent clutter at the front of residences. freelance
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11:48am Wed 16 May 12

miketually says...

We had to buy a bin to store our full bin bags, to prevent animals tearing them open. The wheelie bin will live in the same place as that bin, but I'll not have to lift the bags out of it.
We had to buy a bin to store our full bin bags, to prevent animals tearing them open. The wheelie bin will live in the same place as that bin, but I'll not have to lift the bags out of it. miketually
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12:21pm Wed 16 May 12

mumof2teenagers says...

We purchsed 2 green wheelie bins ages ago (to keep dogs and casts out of the rubbish)and we usually do fill both of them. What good is one bin going to do per family ?
We purchsed 2 green wheelie bins ages ago (to keep dogs and casts out of the rubbish)and we usually do fill both of them. What good is one bin going to do per family ? mumof2teenagers
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12:53pm Wed 16 May 12

Homshaw1 says...

Don't mind wheelie bins but is now the time to spend £1m.
Don't mind wheelie bins but is now the time to spend £1m. Homshaw1
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1:07pm Wed 16 May 12

sefa says...

No disrespect mumof2teenagers but that seems like a hell of a lot of rubbish? Do you recycle? Granted, I'm on my own but I struggle to fill a bin bag a week. What does a wheelie bin fit? Two or three large bin bags?
No disrespect mumof2teenagers but that seems like a hell of a lot of rubbish? Do you recycle? Granted, I'm on my own but I struggle to fill a bin bag a week. What does a wheelie bin fit? Two or three large bin bags? sefa
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1:07pm Wed 16 May 12

aquickrant says...

Madadrian wrote:
Where the hell do they expect us to store these things? they are not our property they belong to the local authority. Would we be threatened with fines for refusing to store them on our property? This sounds like another green bin fiasco. We had one of those dumped on our doorstep with no explanation as to what it was for. Last seen it was flying down the street in a high wind. I live in a terraced house and can manage quite well with carrying bin bags out to the back lane. One at a time if I have more than one that week. What I don't want or need is the aggrivation and risk of dragging one of these things up steps in winter when there is ice on the ground. As for support- Am I supposed to leave my yard gates unlocked for any thief to walk in or am I supposed to stay in my home all day on collection day waiting for a knock on the front door so I can open the yard gates. What about my health and safety? I'm not getting paid for it and I don't have insurance cover to pay out in the event of another accident. Perhaps Wallis can tell us how many injuries have been caused over the last 20 years to refuse collectors lifting bin bags into the back of a wagon and what the nature of those injuries were. I have lived here 20 years and used to know a couple of refuse collectors in our local pub team. I have never heard any of them complaining about the danger they faced from lifting bin bags. And when I first came to this town in the 1970s and and for over 22 years after I put my dustbin outside. They seemed to have no problems lifting that into a wagon and tipping the contents inside.
"Where the hell do they expect us to store these things?"........, same place you keep your bin bags. fool. cant see one decent argument against them. just lots of arguments for them.
[quote][p][bold]Madadrian[/bold] wrote: Where the hell do they expect us to store these things? they are not our property they belong to the local authority. Would we be threatened with fines for refusing to store them on our property? This sounds like another green bin fiasco. We had one of those dumped on our doorstep with no explanation as to what it was for. Last seen it was flying down the street in a high wind. I live in a terraced house and can manage quite well with carrying bin bags out to the back lane. One at a time if I have more than one that week. What I don't want or need is the aggrivation and risk of dragging one of these things up steps in winter when there is ice on the ground. As for support- Am I supposed to leave my yard gates unlocked for any thief to walk in or am I supposed to stay in my home all day on collection day waiting for a knock on the front door so I can open the yard gates. What about my health and safety? I'm not getting paid for it and I don't have insurance cover to pay out in the event of another accident. Perhaps Wallis can tell us how many injuries have been caused over the last 20 years to refuse collectors lifting bin bags into the back of a wagon and what the nature of those injuries were. I have lived here 20 years and used to know a couple of refuse collectors in our local pub team. I have never heard any of them complaining about the danger they faced from lifting bin bags. And when I first came to this town in the 1970s and and for over 22 years after I put my dustbin outside. They seemed to have no problems lifting that into a wagon and tipping the contents inside.[/p][/quote]"Where the hell do they expect us to store these things?"........, same place you keep your bin bags. fool. cant see one decent argument against them. just lots of arguments for them. aquickrant
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1:20pm Wed 16 May 12

Madadrian says...

aquickrant ...
Came out with the usual abusive rants we have come to expect from the supporters of this bunch of Stalinists who have no respect for private property
aquickrant ... Came out with the usual abusive rants we have come to expect from the supporters of this bunch of Stalinists who have no respect for private property Madadrian
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2:52pm Wed 16 May 12

Savant_NE says...

Well done Northern Echo , you've managed to do what Darlington Council have failed to do ..."communicate".No referendums , no party political speak , just plain old communication.Darlin
gton council should understand we're not sheep , and we do understand the need for a well run safe service,but it has to safe for the majority, and help given to the minority who need it .
Well done Northern Echo , you've managed to do what Darlington Council have failed to do ..."communicate".No referendums , no party political speak , just plain old communication.Darlin gton council should understand we're not sheep , and we do understand the need for a well run safe service,but it has to safe for the majority, and help given to the minority who need it . Savant_NE
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3:09pm Wed 16 May 12

miketually says...

The Council did communicate, surely? How else do you think the Echo found out about it?
The Council did communicate, surely? How else do you think the Echo found out about it? miketually
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3:21pm Wed 16 May 12

DM1989 says...

Graffiti time :)
Graffiti time :) DM1989
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4:12pm Wed 16 May 12

mumof2teenagers says...

yes we do recycle, remembering that we DON'T recycle tins and cans, im not saying that is the amount that is in my bins every week, also we dont fill bags up to the very top to make them difficult to lift out of the wheelie bins weight wise
yes we do recycle, remembering that we DON'T recycle tins and cans, im not saying that is the amount that is in my bins every week, also we dont fill bags up to the very top to make them difficult to lift out of the wheelie bins weight wise mumof2teenagers
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5:22pm Wed 16 May 12

tabby67 says...

Jesus what is everybody moaning about, I want more than one wheelie Bin so I can recycle properly! Most towns have 3 or 4 and I would like the same. Instead of looking at all the negatives why not look at the positives, there is always ways round where to store them and the council has already said they will help people who might struggle. Stop moaning for god’s sake and accept it whatever they do there will always be some daft person complaining for the sake of it!!
Jesus what is everybody moaning about, I want more than one wheelie Bin so I can recycle properly! Most towns have 3 or 4 and I would like the same. Instead of looking at all the negatives why not look at the positives, there is always ways round where to store them and the council has already said they will help people who might struggle. Stop moaning for god’s sake and accept it whatever they do there will always be some daft person complaining for the sake of it!! tabby67
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9:02pm Wed 16 May 12

yada yada yada says...

@madadrian- Simply put them where your bin bags sit throughout the week, Dont worry about lifting bins up and down steps when putting them out, simply keep your bags next to your empty bin and on collection day place your empty bin outside and then fill it one bag at a time.
No respect for private property ? what about the heavy end of the scale where those that have no respect for council property and just stick there rubbish out when it pleases them.
@mumof2teenagers- Tins and cans are recyled, the waste plant sifts through them.
I reckon wheelies is a good thing for the town and it will hopefully save a lot of money over the years which can be invested in other services, about time DBC caught up with the real world.
@geordieb- A storage fee ? WTF.Without a doubt whellie bins will reduce the amount of litter caused by others not securing bags, vermin ripping them open, scrotes rifling through them and the wind bolowing mess everywhere, Then the council would put up the council tax to cover more litter picks and collections ?
@oliviaden6- If they stink then your obviously not tying your bags up properly, We have had one for years and twice a yr give it a little swill out with some hot water and bleach. Simple
@Homshaw1- Spend £1 million to save millions more i guess as it would reduce the amount of return visits needed after the mess left behind by people ripping bags open as the binmen will only take sealed bags as they have too big of a round to cover in one day.
@madadrian- Simply put them where your bin bags sit throughout the week, Dont worry about lifting bins up and down steps when putting them out, simply keep your bags next to your empty bin and on collection day place your empty bin outside and then fill it one bag at a time. No respect for private property ? what about the heavy end of the scale where those that have no respect for council property and just stick there rubbish out when it pleases them. @mumof2teenagers- Tins and cans are recyled, the waste plant sifts through them. I reckon wheelies is a good thing for the town and it will hopefully save a lot of money over the years which can be invested in other services, about time DBC caught up with the real world. @geordieb- A storage fee ? WTF.Without a doubt whellie bins will reduce the amount of litter caused by others not securing bags, vermin ripping them open, scrotes rifling through them and the wind bolowing mess everywhere, Then the council would put up the council tax to cover more litter picks and collections ? @oliviaden6- If they stink then your obviously not tying your bags up properly, We have had one for years and twice a yr give it a little swill out with some hot water and bleach. Simple @Homshaw1- Spend £1 million to save millions more i guess as it would reduce the amount of return visits needed after the mess left behind by people ripping bags open as the binmen will only take sealed bags as they have too big of a round to cover in one day. yada yada yada
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10:39am Thu 17 May 12

Idontknowaboutyoubut says...

For Gods sake!
What is all the fuss about?
In Wear Valley,we have had the wheelie bins for some time now
and they are great.Now we have
a separate bin for recycling,and
collections on alternate weeks.I
admit to being unsure about it
at first,but have to say,it works
very well.The bins are very easy
to wheel around I find,and I have a heart condition and arthritis.Stop worrying people, and give the bins a chance.
For Gods sake! What is all the fuss about? In Wear Valley,we have had the wheelie bins for some time now and they are great.Now we have a separate bin for recycling,and collections on alternate weeks.I admit to being unsure about it at first,but have to say,it works very well.The bins are very easy to wheel around I find,and I have a heart condition and arthritis.Stop worrying people, and give the bins a chance. Idontknowaboutyoubut
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2:03pm Thu 17 May 12

Mordillo says...

Terrace houses in Stockton don't have wheelie bins but are given black bags to be filled and collected each week from the back alleys
Terrace houses in Stockton don't have wheelie bins but are given black bags to be filled and collected each week from the back alleys Mordillo
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2:12pm Thu 17 May 12

Assurance says...

Why not ask the men who do the job? I did, and they still prefer black bags.
Surely their view is more important than anyone's.
Why not ask the men who do the job? I did, and they still prefer black bags. Surely their view is more important than anyone's. Assurance
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2:14pm Thu 17 May 12

BB Darlington says...

It isn't the wheelie bins I object to, I can see the advantages. The reason I do object is spending the money now. We are closing the arts centre, libraries, failing to subsidise some essential bus services and leaving the roads in serious need of repair. The financial cost will be formidable ; can we afford it?
It isn't the wheelie bins I object to, I can see the advantages. The reason I do object is spending the money now. We are closing the arts centre, libraries, failing to subsidise some essential bus services and leaving the roads in serious need of repair. The financial cost will be formidable ; can we afford it? BB Darlington
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9:45am Fri 18 May 12

darlington-ne says...

ONE GREEN BIN.

No good to me, we put out 5-8 bags a week!

PLUS if it = MORE COUNCIL TAX £££

THEN NO THANKYOU!
ONE GREEN BIN. No good to me, we put out 5-8 bags a week! PLUS if it = MORE COUNCIL TAX £££ THEN NO THANKYOU! darlington-ne
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11:35am Fri 18 May 12

miketually says...

People who put out 8 bags a week make everyone else's Council tax more expensive. So, thanks for that.
People who put out 8 bags a week make everyone else's Council tax more expensive. So, thanks for that. miketually
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2:35pm Fri 18 May 12

darlington-ne says...

Shurup silly arse. If you knew how Council Tax even worked you wouldn't look SO DAFT for the above comment. Crank.
Shurup silly arse. If you knew how Council Tax even worked you wouldn't look SO DAFT for the above comment. Crank. darlington-ne
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4:31pm Fri 18 May 12

miketually says...

Go on then, explain that.
Go on then, explain that. miketually
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6:11pm Fri 18 May 12

TeddyBlair says...

It can't come quick enough for me, the council NEVER cleans up round our way till 3 or 4 days after bin day far to late!!!

Wheelie bins? Bring it on!!
It can't come quick enough for me, the council NEVER cleans up round our way till 3 or 4 days after bin day far to late!!! Wheelie bins? Bring it on!! TeddyBlair
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7:36pm Fri 18 May 12

Lifetime Townie says...

It's the council who are following others like sheep and no mind of their own. They are closing the arts centre, cutting essential bus services, closing the market toilets and leaving the roads in serious need of repair but they can still find £1.5m to pay for a set of wheelie bins that we have managed without for years. Or could it be that they are intended for use on the other planet where the council usually live?
It's the council who are following others like sheep and no mind of their own. They are closing the arts centre, cutting essential bus services, closing the market toilets and leaving the roads in serious need of repair but they can still find £1.5m to pay for a set of wheelie bins that we have managed without for years. Or could it be that they are intended for use on the other planet where the council usually live? Lifetime Townie
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11:29pm Fri 18 May 12

Darlo1883 says...

agree with Miketually. We put out one bag a week and pay the same council tax as the fat family up the street who constantly put out between 5 and 10 a week. They should be given a bloody charge!! I thought the most you were allowed to put out each week was 2 so why dont the bin men leave a note explaining to all of those folks who break the rules they are going to be charged.
As for wheelie bins, bring them on, best idea the council have had for years. Doesnt bother me a two week collection either. Anything to save costs.
agree with Miketually. We put out one bag a week and pay the same council tax as the fat family up the street who constantly put out between 5 and 10 a week. They should be given a bloody charge!! I thought the most you were allowed to put out each week was 2 so why dont the bin men leave a note explaining to all of those folks who break the rules they are going to be charged. As for wheelie bins, bring them on, best idea the council have had for years. Doesnt bother me a two week collection either. Anything to save costs. Darlo1883
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12:14am Sat 19 May 12

Cypress says...

Moan, moan, moan, I remember years and years ago, when I was a kid in the sixties, we used to have a big galvanized bin, with a lid, in our yard, we used to put everything in it, then every week the council bin men would come and empty this bin, and the difference now is what ?, its a bin you keep in your yard and every week the council bin men will come and empty it, its a bin, we had them long before bin bags were invented, get over it and stop moaning, the people of Darlington must be the most **** and moaning people in the north of england...
Moan, moan, moan, I remember years and years ago, when I was a kid in the sixties, we used to have a big galvanized bin, with a lid, in our yard, we used to put everything in it, then every week the council bin men would come and empty this bin, and the difference now is what ?, its a bin you keep in your yard and every week the council bin men will come and empty it, its a bin, we had them long before bin bags were invented, get over it and stop moaning, the people of Darlington must be the most **** and moaning people in the north of england... Cypress
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12:14am Sat 19 May 12

Cypress says...

Moan, moan, moan, I remember years and years ago, when I was a kid in the sixties, we used to have a big galvanized bin, with a lid, in our yard, we used to put everything in it, then every week the council bin men would come and empty this bin, and the difference now is what ?, its a bin you keep in your yard and every week the council bin men will come and empty it, its a bin, we had them long before bin bags were invented, get over it and stop moaning, the people of Darlington must be the most **** and moaning people in the north of england...
Moan, moan, moan, I remember years and years ago, when I was a kid in the sixties, we used to have a big galvanized bin, with a lid, in our yard, we used to put everything in it, then every week the council bin men would come and empty this bin, and the difference now is what ?, its a bin you keep in your yard and every week the council bin men will come and empty it, its a bin, we had them long before bin bags were invented, get over it and stop moaning, the people of Darlington must be the most **** and moaning people in the north of england... Cypress
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10:26am Sat 19 May 12

Assurance says...

Besides, . . does anyone on the Bourgh Council, or the chief executive, or her appointed lacky, ever read these blogs!? My money is on "NO".
Besides, . . does anyone on the Bourgh Council, or the chief executive, or her appointed lacky, ever read these blogs!? My money is on "NO". Assurance
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11:34am Mon 21 May 12

Allanopie says...

Regardless of whether we decide to have them or not ! Howcome , they have have decided to negotiate this now ! Many years after others have decided ! We are so behind the times ! If they decide yes now , how much more will it cost than uif it happened 10 years ago , sounds like an expensive option now ! Soo , LET IT BE !
Regardless of whether we decide to have them or not ! Howcome , they have have decided to negotiate this now ! Many years after others have decided ! We are so behind the times ! If they decide yes now , how much more will it cost than uif it happened 10 years ago , sounds like an expensive option now ! Soo , LET IT BE ! Allanopie
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11:57am Tue 22 May 12

Lifetime Townie says...

We didn't need them before, we can't afford them now, they are not Health & Safety compusory, we don't eally need them at all so why impose them on the public?? It's not common sense so it must be political at our cost!!
We didn't need them before, we can't afford them now, they are not Health & Safety compusory, we don't eally need them at all so why impose them on the public?? It's not common sense so it must be political at our cost!! Lifetime Townie
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12:45pm Tue 22 May 12

miketually says...

This isn't a blog. Councillors do read these comments.
This isn't a blog. Councillors do read these comments. miketually
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12:52pm Tue 22 May 12

Not always right says...

More than welcome in my opinion. I'd rather not have rubbish littering the street after vermin have had a go at bin bags, Darlington people love a moan.
More than welcome in my opinion. I'd rather not have rubbish littering the street after vermin have had a go at bin bags, Darlington people love a moan. Not always right
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6:20pm Tue 22 May 12

Unbelieveable says...

The reason you have not had wheelie bins before was down to John Williams dislike for them FACT. 1.5 million pounds to be spent then another 314k per year. Mmmm budget cuts, jobs lost, Austerity? Not in the world of DBC or am i missing something. No wonder this Towns a dump with money like this being wasted at such a time. Certainly no business brains working at DBC.
The reason you have not had wheelie bins before was down to John Williams dislike for them FACT. 1.5 million pounds to be spent then another 314k per year. Mmmm budget cuts, jobs lost, Austerity? Not in the world of DBC or am i missing something. No wonder this Towns a dump with money like this being wasted at such a time. Certainly no business brains working at DBC. Unbelieveable
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8:21pm Tue 22 May 12

Lifetime Townie says...

"Certainly no business brains working at DBC.” and is another FACT.
But don't worry, the bins are not for us on our planet, they will be sent to the other planet where DBC lives.
"Certainly no business brains working at DBC.” and is another FACT. But don't worry, the bins are not for us on our planet, they will be sent to the other planet where DBC lives. Lifetime Townie
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12:43pm Fri 1 Jun 12

JRaine says...

Read with interest about where the council has got the money from for the new bins, well ive worked it out! they must have saved it from the highways budget as they have not spent it on the roads all they ever do is bodge repair with shovel full of tarmac, or they "enhance" the surface ( their words not mine ) withtar and chippings that end up stuck all over my car
Read with interest about where the council has got the money from for the new bins, well ive worked it out! they must have saved it from the highways budget as they have not spent it on the roads all they ever do is bodge repair with shovel full of tarmac, or they "enhance" the surface ( their words not mine ) withtar and chippings that end up stuck all over my car JRaine
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