Darlington council leader: "Other councils could do more for Gypsies"

Councillor Bill Dixon Councillor Bill Dixon

A COUNCIL leader has suggested that neighbouring authorities could do more to provide accomodation for Gypsy and traveller communities as figures show a sharp disparity between levels of provision in the region.

Councillor Bill Dixon, leader of Darlington Borough Council, said councils in the Tees Valley area should follow his authority’s lead and consider whether they have enough sites for Gypsy families as demand continues to rise.

Officials from Middlesbrough, Stockton, Hartlepool and Redcar and Cleveland councils have all rejected Coun Dixon’s comments and said they are happy with the service they provide.

Darlington Borough Council already provides 62 residential pitches for Gypsies and travellers and has started consultation on potential sites for 35 extra places, which has proved controversial with local residents.

In comparison, Middlesbrough Council provides 30 pitches, with no plans to provide any more, while Redcar and Cleveland Borough Council provides 13 pitches, with no expansion plans.

A spokesman for Hartlepool Borough Council, which has no pitches, said the issue had been explored by the council, which “strongly felt” there was no demand in the area.

Stockton Borough Council has 41 pitches. A spokeswoman said the authority is carrying out an assessment of need to determine future options for Gypsy and traveller sites in the borough.

Coun Dixon said: “The facts speak for themselves – we’ve reviewed the figures and accepted that we have by far and away the largest traveller population [in the Tees Valley].

“It’s reasonable to expect other authorities would review their policies and the number of pitches they provide.

“It is up to individual authorities to review the demand that they find or perceive and then meet it. If Hartlepool are happy with their provision, then fine, that’s great for them.

“Gypsies and travellers are a part of the community in Darlington, in significant numbers, so it’s not unreasonable to make provision for them.”

A survey carried out in 2009, the Tees Valley Gypsy and Traveller Accommodation Assessment, which was commissioned jointly by the five authorities, suggested that an extra 142 pitches would be needed across the region in the next 15 years.

A spokesman for Redcar and Cleveland council said: “The council continues to support the findings of the Tees Valley Gypsy and Traveller Accommodation Assessment.

We recently secured £400,000 to expand our traveller site in South Bank, which has proved extremely popular, and have no further plans at this time.”

A spokesman for Middlesbrough Council said: “We were allocated just over £580,000 in 2010 to create new pitches, and upgrade and extend the Metz Bridge site.

“The residents were delighted with the upgrades and the ongoing management of the site, but we have no further plans in the pipeline.”

Comments(67)

mark.wilkinson says...
11:27am Sat 5 May 12

Welcome to Gypsy Central.

Darlington had officially been invaded!

antagonist1 says...
12:06pm Sat 5 May 12

racial discrimination there mark ?

mark.wilkinson says...
3:09pm Sat 5 May 12

antagonist1 wrote:
racial discrimination there mark ?
Yeah if you like. Call it what you want. I couldn't care less. One things for sure, you can't deny the truth. and if that makes my comment racially discriminatory then so be it. OK?

duchess says...
4:22pm Sat 5 May 12

we are in the middle of having our local pub turned into a mental he.alth hospital,and now they r wanting to build a gypsy site on our estate too..darlington has plenty of sites for these people n they r not all full................
..

D D Coy says...
6:22pm Sat 5 May 12

Travellers from Darlington have featured on My Big Fat Gypsy Weddings, surely they are raising the profile of the town.

mark.wilkinson says...
6:52pm Sat 5 May 12

D D Coy wrote:
Travellers from Darlington have featured on My Big Fat Gypsy Weddings, surely they are raising the profile of the town.
What a fantastic way of raising the profile of the town! Travellers living here are also responsible for metal theft, drug dealing and god only knows what other criminal activity....I suppose that raises the towns profile as well does it? Idiot!

delboy1977 says...
8:12pm Sat 5 May 12

They dont pay council tax ! why do we have to give them somewhere to live, this town is well and truely ****

BMD says...
5:58am Sun 6 May 12

Bill Dixon isn’t concerned about Gypsies or the council tax payers.
.
This ploy is only to raise his profile for the Police Commissioners role.
.
Remember the Labour council’s words "We will listen to the constituents!” Never happened and Never will Happen.

S_ward says...
2:01pm Sun 6 May 12

can people these days not just leave other to get on with there lives you all seem to always need to comment on things like this........

mark.wilkinson says...
3:07pm Sun 6 May 12

S_ward wrote:
can people these days not just leave other to get on with there lives you all seem to always need to comment on things like this........
Things like what?

Would you prefer a world with no voices or opinions?

Mr Twat 2 You says...
6:54pm Sun 6 May 12

delboy1977 wrote:
They dont pay council tax ! why do we have to give them somewhere to live, this town is well and truely ****
Well Bloody said !!!

johnny_p says...
7:20pm Sun 6 May 12

Oh dear.... you wouldn't need many guesses to work out what Bill Dixon does for a living just by seeing his photograph. Lecturer in Political Science? Geography Teacher? Ah yes- Labour Councillor. At what point in their lives do these people don corduroy jackets and decide to stop shaving? I'm allowed to say these things of course because my substantial council tax contributes generously towards your six-figure salary.

darlobikegirl says...
10:01pm Sun 6 May 12

Mr **** 2 You wrote:
delboy1977 wrote:
They dont pay council tax ! why do we have to give them somewhere to live, this town is well and truely ****
Well Bloody said !!!
What a pair of mis informed idiots!! How about do some research before you come on making ridiculous claims - or perhaps you like to make yourselves look like fools.
If the COUNCIL provide COUNCIL owned sites for Gypsies & Travellers then they pay rent & COUNCIL tax on such sites - DURRRR!!
How about we just build concentration camps for them huh? Darlington is & probably always will be a filthy, racist town full of no hopers & absolute shameful idiots such as the scum that post on this site.
I'd dearly love for my children not to grow up near such low lives as the ones that comment on here - sadly, as I live in Darlo, it's inevitable.
Why don't you get a grip & stop being do filthy with your gross, bigoted views? For the sake of YOUR OWN children (heaven forbid you've brought any into this world)

Random! says...
10:25pm Sun 6 May 12

darlobikegirl wrote:
Mr **** 2 You wrote:
delboy1977 wrote:
They dont pay council tax ! why do we have to give them somewhere to live, this town is well and truely ****
Well Bloody said !!!
What a pair of mis informed idiots!! How about do some research before you come on making ridiculous claims - or perhaps you like to make yourselves look like fools.
If the COUNCIL provide COUNCIL owned sites for Gypsies & Travellers then they pay rent & COUNCIL tax on such sites - DURRRR!!
How about we just build concentration camps for them huh? Darlington is & probably always will be a filthy, racist town full of no hopers & absolute shameful idiots such as the scum that post on this site.
I'd dearly love for my children not to grow up near such low lives as the ones that comment on here - sadly, as I live in Darlo, it's inevitable.
Why don't you get a grip & stop being do filthy with your gross, bigoted views? For the sake of YOUR OWN children (heaven forbid you've brought any into this world)
I don't need to add to this other than "well said, darlo bike girl!!" some sense at last.

darlobikegirl says...
10:34pm Sun 6 May 12

:-) thank you. I'm pleased that the world isn't totally full of idiots!

D D Coy says...
1:13pm Mon 7 May 12

mark.wilkinson wrote:
D D Coy wrote:
Travellers from Darlington have featured on My Big Fat Gypsy Weddings, surely they are raising the profile of the town.
What a fantastic way of raising the profile of the town! Travellers living here are also responsible for metal theft, drug dealing and god only knows what other criminal activity....I suppose that raises the towns profile as well does it? Idiot!
Racism is alive and well in Darlington, travellers are responsible for the same kind of crimes as many residents of Darlington.

"Why don't you go down to a camp-site and let them know how you really feel, face to face?"

There are problems but much the same as with many other sections of the community in Darlington, if you want to live in the perfect town.

Perhaps a gypsy festival in the market square of Darlington would be away of integrating the wider community with travellers. The general public hand at making a purse net, carving a wooden flower or making a peg, harness a horse, see inside a living wagon & the council could rent out empty market stalls to travellers to sell their wares.

It perhaps could end up so large that the council could utilise the park and a major tourist attraction such as Appleby Horse Fair could evolve, if only people like yourself could broaden their narrow minds.

mark.wilkinson says...
3:18pm Mon 7 May 12

Preaching to the converted I'm afraid. Fact is, the gypsy community is widely disliked (and that's putting it mildly) not only here in Darlington, but everywhere they pitch up. There's good reason for the bad feelings towards them too. And I accept wholeheartedly the fact that the settled community has its fair share of scum-bags. My feelings are exactly the same towards them as the idiots in the traveller community. So go preach somewhere else, like High Row perhaps, or to someone who gives a toss. I'm off to practice my peg-whittling skills.

mark.wilkinson says...
4:00pm Mon 7 May 12

D D Coy wrote:
mark.wilkinson wrote:
D D Coy wrote:
Travellers from Darlington have featured on My Big Fat Gypsy Weddings, surely they are raising the profile of the town.
What a fantastic way of raising the profile of the town! Travellers living here are also responsible for metal theft, drug dealing and god only knows what other criminal activity....I suppose that raises the towns profile as well does it? Idiot!
Racism is alive and well in Darlington, travellers are responsible for the same kind of crimes as many residents of Darlington.

"Why don't you go down to a camp-site and let them know how you really feel, face to face?"

There are problems but much the same as with many other sections of the community in Darlington, if you want to live in the perfect town.

Perhaps a gypsy festival in the market square of Darlington would be away of integrating the wider community with travellers. The general public hand at making a purse net, carving a wooden flower or making a peg, harness a horse, see inside a living wagon & the council could rent out empty market stalls to travellers to sell their wares.

It perhaps could end up so large that the council could utilise the park and a major tourist attraction such as Appleby Horse Fair could evolve, if only people like yourself could broaden their narrow minds.
Oh and as for your pathetic attempt at the 'racism' angle. It's meaningless, because idiots like you use the term at any and every opportunity possible. It's the most over-used word in the English language and as a result has lost most of its meaning and certainly all of its impact. You know what a typical gypo would say to someone making adverse comments about their community? "why dont you go down to one of the campsites and let them know how you feel face to face?"....pathetic!.
.. Grow up, get over yourself and stop playing the victim.

Anyone wanna buy a bed?

Idiot!

darlobikegirl says...
5:33pm Mon 7 May 12

Aw bless him, still trying to justify RACISM.
Nice try but nil points

mark.wilkinson says...
6:01pm Mon 7 May 12

darlobikegirl wrote:
Aw bless him, still trying to justify RACISM.
Nice try but nil points
Says you who needs to feel accepted from the likes of 'Random!'....listen Miss goody two shoes, when you have the slightest idea what you're talking about, and when you've developed and grown up enough to understand that people have varied and differing views on any given subject, then you should comment again. You should also reconsider using the word RACiST (in caps) to get your pointless point across. It's weak, ignorant and shows you in a very bad light. Grow up child.

D D Coy says...
9:24pm Mon 7 May 12

mark.wilkinson wrote:
D D Coy wrote:
mark.wilkinson wrote:
D D Coy wrote:
Travellers from Darlington have featured on My Big Fat Gypsy Weddings, surely they are raising the profile of the town.
What a fantastic way of raising the profile of the town! Travellers living here are also responsible for metal theft, drug dealing and god only knows what other criminal activity....I suppose that raises the towns profile as well does it? Idiot!
Racism is alive and well in Darlington, travellers are responsible for the same kind of crimes as many residents of Darlington.

"Why don't you go down to a camp-site and let them know how you really feel, face to face?"

There are problems but much the same as with many other sections of the community in Darlington, if you want to live in the perfect town.

Perhaps a gypsy festival in the market square of Darlington would be away of integrating the wider community with travellers. The general public hand at making a purse net, carving a wooden flower or making a peg, harness a horse, see inside a living wagon & the council could rent out empty market stalls to travellers to sell their wares.

It perhaps could end up so large that the council could utilise the park and a major tourist attraction such as Appleby Horse Fair could evolve, if only people like yourself could broaden their narrow minds.
Oh and as for your pathetic attempt at the 'racism' angle. It's meaningless, because idiots like you use the term at any and every opportunity possible. It's the most over-used word in the English language and as a result has lost most of its meaning and certainly all of its impact. You know what a typical gypo would say to someone making adverse comments about their community? "why dont you go down to one of the campsites and let them know how you feel face to face?"....pathetic!.

.. Grow up, get over yourself and stop playing the victim.

Anyone wanna buy a bed?

Idiot!
As I have already said, instead of spouting off and making racist rants regarding travellers on here, just get it out of your system and finally become a man by facing them & letting them know how you feel. You don't represent the wider population & never will!

Give me a 1000 travellers to one small minded racist bigot like yourself any day.

mark.wilkinson says...
9:44pm Mon 7 May 12

D D Coy wrote:
mark.wilkinson wrote:
D D Coy wrote:
mark.wilkinson wrote:
D D Coy wrote:
Travellers from Darlington have featured on My Big Fat Gypsy Weddings, surely they are raising the profile of the town.
What a fantastic way of raising the profile of the town! Travellers living here are also responsible for metal theft, drug dealing and god only knows what other criminal activity....I suppose that raises the towns profile as well does it? Idiot!
Racism is alive and well in Darlington, travellers are responsible for the same kind of crimes as many residents of Darlington.

"Why don't you go down to a camp-site and let them know how you really feel, face to face?"

There are problems but much the same as with many other sections of the community in Darlington, if you want to live in the perfect town.

Perhaps a gypsy festival in the market square of Darlington would be away of integrating the wider community with travellers. The general public hand at making a purse net, carving a wooden flower or making a peg, harness a horse, see inside a living wagon & the council could rent out empty market stalls to travellers to sell their wares.

It perhaps could end up so large that the council could utilise the park and a major tourist attraction such as Appleby Horse Fair could evolve, if only people like yourself could broaden their narrow minds.
Oh and as for your pathetic attempt at the 'racism' angle. It's meaningless, because idiots like you use the term at any and every opportunity possible. It's the most over-used word in the English language and as a result has lost most of its meaning and certainly all of its impact. You know what a typical gypo would say to someone making adverse comments about their community? "why dont you go down to one of the campsites and let them know how you feel face to face?"....pathetic!.


.. Grow up, get over yourself and stop playing the victim.

Anyone wanna buy a bed?

Idiot!
As I have already said, instead of spouting off and making racist rants regarding travellers on here, just get it out of your system and finally become a man by facing them & letting them know how you feel. You don't represent the wider population & never will!

Give me a 1000 travellers to one small minded racist bigot like yourself any day.
Haha you really couldn't make it up.

Ignorant gypsy.

mark.wilkinson says...
8:07am Tue 8 May 12

D D Coy wrote:
mark.wilkinson wrote:
D D Coy wrote:
mark.wilkinson wrote:
D D Coy wrote:
mark.wilkinson wrote:
D D Coy wrote:
Travellers from Darlington have featured on My Big Fat Gypsy Weddings, surely they are raising the profile of the town.
What a fantastic way of raising the profile of the town! Travellers living here are also responsible for metal theft, drug dealing and god only knows what other criminal activity....I suppose that raises the towns profile as well does it? Idiot!
Racism is alive and well in Darlington, travellers are responsible for the same kind of crimes as many residents of Darlington.

"Why don't you go down to a camp-site and let them know how you really feel, face to face?"

There are problems but much the same as with many other sections of the community in Darlington, if you want to live in the perfect town.

Perhaps a gypsy festival in the market square of Darlington would be away of integrating the wider community with travellers. The general public hand at making a purse net, carving a wooden flower or making a peg, harness a horse, see inside a living wagon & the council could rent out empty market stalls to travellers to sell their wares.

It perhaps could end up so large that the council could utilise the park and a major tourist attraction such as Appleby Horse Fair could evolve, if only people like yourself could broaden their narrow minds.
Oh and as for your pathetic attempt at the 'racism' angle. It's meaningless, because idiots like you use the term at any and every opportunity possible. It's the most over-used word in the English language and as a result has lost most of its meaning and certainly all of its impact. You know what a typical gypo would say to someone making adverse comments about their community? "why dont you go down to one of the campsites and let them know how you feel face to face?"....pathetic!.




.. Grow up, get over yourself and stop playing the victim.

Anyone wanna buy a bed?

Idiot!
As I have already said, instead of spouting off and making racist rants regarding travellers on here, just get it out of your system and finally become a man by facing them & letting them know how you feel. You don't represent the wider population & never will!

Give me a 1000 travellers to one small minded racist bigot like yourself any day.
Haha you really couldn't make it up.

Ignorant gypsy.
@Mark, perhaps we will soon meet to discuss who is ignorant?
Be quiet you stupid ****

Mr Twat 2 You says...
8:32am Tue 8 May 12

darlobikegirl wrote:
Mr **** 2 You wrote:
delboy1977 wrote:
They dont pay council tax ! why do we have to give them somewhere to live, this town is well and truely ****
Well Bloody said !!!
What a pair of mis informed idiots!! How about do some research before you come on making ridiculous claims - or perhaps you like to make yourselves look like fools.
If the COUNCIL provide COUNCIL owned sites for Gypsies & Travellers then they pay rent & COUNCIL tax on such sites - DURRRR!!
How about we just build concentration camps for them huh? Darlington is & probably always will be a filthy, racist town full of no hopers & absolute shameful idiots such as the scum that post on this site.
I'd dearly love for my children not to grow up near such low lives as the ones that comment on here - sadly, as I live in Darlo, it's inevitable.
Why don't you get a grip & stop being do filthy with your gross, bigoted views? For the sake of YOUR OWN children (heaven forbid you've brought any into this world)
Perhaps if Darlo girl had these people on their land she and the other goody two shoes would change their mind, I had 4 ‘travellers vans’ on my land and had to wait six months to get them evicted and when they did go the mess and rubbish which was left was at best described as inhumane oh and just guess who paid the council and its two wagons of filth it took to clean it all up?? Have a good guess Darlogirl !!!

mark.wilkinson says...
9:02am Tue 8 May 12

*Breaking News this morning*

Metal theft from churches (that's right CHURCHES) Is at an all time high. On average 8 such buildings are targeted every day and vandalised for the lead and other metals that can then be sold on as scrap. (Not to mention our precious war memorials which are also under constant attack!)

Wonder which lovely group in society is responsible for that then?..... The same people, no doubt, who rock up at church every Sunday and repent their weekly sins? What an interesting way to earn a living... Steal all week from the very place you go to beg forgiveness from.

Apologies for my small minded, bigoted, racist views, but hey ho, that's just the way it goes unfortunately.

darlobikegirl says...
10:59am Tue 8 May 12

Aw that really brightened up my day! Have you ever thought of a career in stand up Mark - you're very funny

Mr Twat 2 You says...
12:38pm Tue 8 May 12

darlobikegirl wrote:
Aw that really brightened up my day! Have you ever thought of a career in stand up Mark - you're very funny
And you, Dear girl are very deluded !!

S_ward says...
3:22pm Tue 8 May 12

or my day have you hear you people you get good and bad in everyone there are much bigger problems in the world than where the council place a site for people to live!!!!!!!!

tomtopper says...
6:28pm Tue 8 May 12

darlobikegirl wrote:
Aw bless him, still trying to justify RACISM.
Nice try but nil points
Mmm.. Racism and hence discimination sound as if they are big issues to yourself... So in that respect, surely you would agree that the best course of action would be for the council to ask its indigenous residents in the form of a referendum.. You can't then call that racism, just democracy... Or do you know best?

darlobikegirl says...
8:53pm Tue 8 May 12

tomtopper wrote:
darlobikegirl wrote:
Aw bless him, still trying to justify RACISM.
Nice try but nil points
Mmm.. Racism and hence discimination sound as if they are big issues to yourself... So in that respect, surely you would agree that the best course of action would be for the council to ask its indigenous residents in the form of a referendum.. You can't then call that racism, just democracy... Or do you know best?
I always know best Tom, I'm a mother, but am not sure exactly what you mean by your comment?

D. Hop says...
9:58pm Tue 8 May 12

kinda says it all doesn't it!

The old giffer says...
9:48am Wed 9 May 12

Why is Racism, or RACISM, if you prefer it in upper case, even being considered here? These people (gypsies, travellers, whatever) are the same "race" as me, and the vast majority of people in Darlington. They are of the same racial type, same religion, indistinguishable from myself and most of Darlington, if it were not for clothing and spray tan. The issue here is not racism, it is lifestyle choice differences. They choose to live in council houses in the winter, caravans in the fair season, and roam around looking for things to steal,I choose to live a settled life in my own home. Please don't drag out the old tired worn out racism arguments. I hate them for what they do, not any race thing at all.

mark.wilkinson says...
9:56am Wed 9 May 12

The old giffer wrote:
Why is Racism, or RACISM, if you prefer it in upper case, even being considered here? These people (gypsies, travellers, whatever) are the same "race" as me, and the vast majority of people in Darlington. They are of the same racial type, same religion, indistinguishable from myself and most of Darlington, if it were not for clothing and spray tan. The issue here is not racism, it is lifestyle choice differences. They choose to live in council houses in the winter, caravans in the fair season, and roam around looking for things to steal,I choose to live a settled life in my own home. Please don't drag out the old tired worn out racism arguments. I hate them for what they do, not any race thing at all.
Are you listening darlobikegirl?

Of course that's a silly question, as 'being a mother you're always 'right'.....Go figure!

I SPY! says...
10:04am Wed 9 May 12

Bill Dixon wants to get himself out and about around darlington. Armchair warrior. There is no need in creating gypsy sites, tell the individuals involved there are homes available. These can be rented by families with a legitimate income! Problem solved, or is it?

darlo oily says...
9:56am Thu 10 May 12

The problem with the debate is this:-

there are gypsies and there are irish travellers.

Gypsies have been amongst us for centuries and deserve some form of consideration and historically give no more grief than the average poulation

Irish travellers however are itinerant mobile (or not so mobile) trouble.

Whilst I agree certain inhabitants of darlo can have nothing to say that's how it is.

In essence irish travellers give gypsies a bad name

yada yada yada says...
6:04pm Thu 10 May 12

Gypsies are a dying breed and rarely seen in Darlo.
Pikies are a flourishing breed and can be seen in many a fools garden, roof, drive etc etc.
They must be doing something right to drive around in brand new top spec Mercs, Give em a plot of land, build some brick huts and then charge them for the upkeep, simple. As long as they are all contained it makes the Police's job easier to contain / find em. There's a nice spot just on the side of the A1 they could be plonked.

the-big-yin says...
11:46am Fri 11 May 12

D D Coy wrote:
mark.wilkinson wrote:
D D Coy wrote:
Travellers from Darlington have featured on My Big Fat Gypsy Weddings, surely they are raising the profile of the town.
What a fantastic way of raising the profile of the town! Travellers living here are also responsible for metal theft, drug dealing and god only knows what other criminal activity....I suppose that raises the towns profile as well does it? Idiot!
Racism is alive and well in Darlington, travellers are responsible for the same kind of crimes as many residents of Darlington.

"Why don't you go down to a camp-site and let them know how you really feel, face to face?"

There are problems but much the same as with many other sections of the community in Darlington, if you want to live in the perfect town.

Perhaps a gypsy festival in the market square of Darlington would be away of integrating the wider community with travellers. The general public hand at making a purse net, carving a wooden flower or making a peg, harness a horse, see inside a living wagon & the council could rent out empty market stalls to travellers to sell their wares.

It perhaps could end up so large that the council could utilise the park and a major tourist attraction such as Appleby Horse Fair could evolve, if only people like yourself could broaden their narrow minds.
what planet are you on?
these alleged travellers cause nothing but trouble wherever they are or go...show me a traveller that has a full time job and is paying tax and national insurance...i bet you can-t....
they drive around the town and surrounding areas touting their illegal businesses and go about robbing off the old and the frail pensioners....need a bit roofing done or tarmac laid missus...lol...keep them out ..if they are travellers then let them travel...

D D Coy says...
1:40pm Fri 11 May 12

the-big-yin wrote:
D D Coy wrote:
mark.wilkinson wrote:
D D Coy wrote:
Travellers from Darlington have featured on My Big Fat Gypsy Weddings, surely they are raising the profile of the town.
What a fantastic way of raising the profile of the town! Travellers living here are also responsible for metal theft, drug dealing and god only knows what other criminal activity....I suppose that raises the towns profile as well does it? Idiot!
Racism is alive and well in Darlington, travellers are responsible for the same kind of crimes as many residents of Darlington.

"Why don't you go down to a camp-site and let them know how you really feel, face to face?"

There are problems but much the same as with many other sections of the community in Darlington, if you want to live in the perfect town.

Perhaps a gypsy festival in the market square of Darlington would be away of integrating the wider community with travellers. The general public hand at making a purse net, carving a wooden flower or making a peg, harness a horse, see inside a living wagon & the council could rent out empty market stalls to travellers to sell their wares.

It perhaps could end up so large that the council could utilise the park and a major tourist attraction such as Appleby Horse Fair could evolve, if only people like yourself could broaden their narrow minds.
what planet are you on?
these alleged travellers cause nothing but trouble wherever they are or go...show me a traveller that has a full time job and is paying tax and national insurance...i bet you can-t....
they drive around the town and surrounding areas touting their illegal businesses and go about robbing off the old and the frail pensioners....need a bit roofing done or tarmac laid missus...lol...keep them out ..if they are travellers then let them travel...
This week we have been contacted by the council to organise a festival a week before Yarm Fair. The council are going to fill in the forms so that we get lottery funding. As well as traditional crafts we will be having trade stands for those that wish to rent.

mark.wilkinson says...
2:11pm Fri 11 May 12

The council will have to fill the forms in, as you lot can't read or write! but my god you can count cash.

Can't wait for the festival.....it's gonna be absolutely fantastic....NOT.

Keep on traveling, anywhere but here.

D D Coy says...
2:40pm Fri 11 May 12

mark.wilkinson wrote:
The council will have to fill the forms in, as you lot can't read or write! but my god you can count cash.

Can't wait for the festival.....it's gonna be absolutely fantastic....NOT.

Keep on traveling, anywhere but here.
Darlington has a long and deep tradition of traveller & gypsy families.

This connection actually heralds back centuries before the towns railway history, it is the transport connection that we will mainly be concentrating upon, we plan to gather over 1000 of the finest living wagons from around the UK, many worth in excess of £100,000 then there will be a 5 mile horse drawn cavalcade around the town, which will be just like the old days before the motor car.

Trade stalls expected to attend are from tarmacadam companies & roofline materials.

The BBC are looking at making a special documentary on the event which will no doubt raise peoples awareness of Darlington.

The Romanian buskers society will be attending with its orchestra and doing free recitals, and many will also bring their families with them.

Horse shodding, ferret racing, purse net making & pretend coursing along with fortune telling and peg making will be among the many crafts for the children to interact with. Local schools are expected to attend this free event.

It will put Darlington on the map for all the right reasons.!

mark.wilkinson says...
3:06pm Fri 11 May 12

D D Coy wrote:
mark.wilkinson wrote:
The council will have to fill the forms in, as you lot can't read or write! but my god you can count cash.

Can't wait for the festival.....it's gonna be absolutely fantastic....NOT.

Keep on traveling, anywhere but here.
Darlington has a long and deep tradition of traveller & gypsy families.

This connection actually heralds back centuries before the towns railway history, it is the transport connection that we will mainly be concentrating upon, we plan to gather over 1000 of the finest living wagons from around the UK, many worth in excess of £100,000 then there will be a 5 mile horse drawn cavalcade around the town, which will be just like the old days before the motor car.

Trade stalls expected to attend are from tarmacadam companies & roofline materials.

The BBC are looking at making a special documentary on the event which will no doubt raise peoples awareness of Darlington.

The Romanian buskers society will be attending with its orchestra and doing free recitals, and many will also bring their families with them.

Horse shodding, ferret racing, purse net making & pretend coursing along with fortune telling and peg making will be among the many crafts for the children to interact with. Local schools are expected to attend this free event.

It will put Darlington on the map for all the right reasons.!
Yeah right in your wildest dreams.

Grow up and stop acting like the stupid prat you obviously are.

Mr Twat 2 You says...
3:13pm Fri 11 May 12

D D Coy wrote:
mark.wilkinson wrote:
The council will have to fill the forms in, as you lot can't read or write! but my god you can count cash.

Can't wait for the festival.....it's gonna be absolutely fantastic....NOT.

Keep on traveling, anywhere but here.
Darlington has a long and deep tradition of traveller & gypsy families.

This connection actually heralds back centuries before the towns railway history, it is the transport connection that we will mainly be concentrating upon, we plan to gather over 1000 of the finest living wagons from around the UK, many worth in excess of £100,000 then there will be a 5 mile horse drawn cavalcade around the town, which will be just like the old days before the motor car.

Trade stalls expected to attend are from tarmacadam companies & roofline materials.

The BBC are looking at making a special documentary on the event which will no doubt raise peoples awareness of Darlington.

The Romanian buskers society will be attending with its orchestra and doing free recitals, and many will also bring their families with them.

Horse shodding, ferret racing, purse net making & pretend coursing along with fortune telling and peg making will be among the many crafts for the children to interact with. Local schools are expected to attend this free event.

It will put Darlington on the map for all the right reasons.!
Words fail me.... I am absolutely mortified; IF this does transpire it will mean more of them on my land, more burglaries more trouble and where will Darlos bike girl be ??? Probably trying to emulate one of them if she not already one of the tribe

mark.wilkinson says...
3:34pm Fri 11 May 12

Mr **** 2 You wrote:
D D Coy wrote:
mark.wilkinson wrote:
The council will have to fill the forms in, as you lot can't read or write! but my god you can count cash.

Can't wait for the festival.....it's gonna be absolutely fantastic....NOT.

Keep on traveling, anywhere but here.
Darlington has a long and deep tradition of traveller & gypsy families.

This connection actually heralds back centuries before the towns railway history, it is the transport connection that we will mainly be concentrating upon, we plan to gather over 1000 of the finest living wagons from around the UK, many worth in excess of £100,000 then there will be a 5 mile horse drawn cavalcade around the town, which will be just like the old days before the motor car.

Trade stalls expected to attend are from tarmacadam companies & roofline materials.

The BBC are looking at making a special documentary on the event which will no doubt raise peoples awareness of Darlington.

The Romanian buskers society will be attending with its orchestra and doing free recitals, and many will also bring their families with them.

Horse shodding, ferret racing, purse net making & pretend coursing along with fortune telling and peg making will be among the many crafts for the children to interact with. Local schools are expected to attend this free event.

It will put Darlington on the map for all the right reasons.!
Words fail me.... I am absolutely mortified; IF this does transpire it will mean more of them on my land, more burglaries more trouble and where will Darlos bike girl be ??? Probably trying to emulate one of them if she not already one of the tribe
Ignore it. D D Coy is a fantasist. He thinks the gypsy way is the right way. He's more racist and bigotted towards settled people than we ever will be against them. And Darlobike girl is an attention seeking troll. There's no way in hell that a gypsy festival will be allowed in town. Can you imagine the crime levels were it to ever happen!!!

Mr Twat 2 You says...
3:40pm Fri 11 May 12

I sincerely hope your right Mark, But I fear for the likes of Councillor Dixon and his cronies !!

darlobikegirl says...
3:45pm Fri 11 May 12

Hahaha! Hang on while I stitch my sides up, seriously, there's no amount of Tena ladies that will help me after I wet myself THAT much. Hey Mark, stay tuned for a special blogpost just for you - you know where to find it .....

mark.wilkinson says...
3:55pm Fri 11 May 12

darlobikegirl wrote:
Hahaha! Hang on while I stitch my sides up, seriously, there's no amount of Tena ladies that will help me after I wet myself THAT much. Hey Mark, stay tuned for a special blogpost just for you - you know where to find it .....
Get a life and get off the computer stupid girl. Funny how you've now become the victim because someone dares to disagree with your pathetic views. You can dish it out but you sure as hell can't take it. Oh and your language on your website shows you in a fantastic light doesn't it. Scumbag through and through.

OhSoSmiley says...
4:07pm Fri 11 May 12

Reading the negative comments makes me smile with relief when I realise I can choose not to associate with Bigots, Racists, Xenophobes or any other type of 'Hater'. Freedom of speech is great, however in this instance it's a shame that many of these comments say nothing that is 'great' at all.

I wish you all peace and joy, as these comments I fear reveal the hell that living a life filled with so much intolerance must be!

Tolerance, acceptance and diversity...so good and make me 'Oh So Smiley'!

Jonn says...
6:09pm Fri 11 May 12

I think a Gypsy fair in Darlington market square would be a wonderful idea.
They could display their many talents, such as riding on the roof of a transit van down back lanes so they can see over your wall for anything to steal. They could show us how they remove lead from even the highest of roofs. They could showcase their roofing repair skills and how to extract a couple of hundred quid from a gullable pensioner. Show us how to drive in an erratic and threatening manor in the town and manage never to be bothered by the police. Explain why they threaten innocent people and why "we could have 20 transit vans here in 5 minutes" is something to be proud of. Explain why the town has an annual mini crime wave just before the Appleby Horse Fair.
Their talents are endless!

Spy Boy says...
6:22pm Fri 11 May 12

D D Coy wrote:
mark.wilkinson wrote: The council will have to fill the forms in, as you lot can't read or write! but my god you can count cash. Can't wait for the festival.....it's gonna be absolutely fantastic....NOT. Keep on traveling, anywhere but here.
Darlington has a long and deep tradition of traveller & gypsy families. This connection actually heralds back centuries before the towns railway history, it is the transport connection that we will mainly be concentrating upon, we plan to gather over 1000 of the finest living wagons from around the UK, many worth in excess of £100,000 then there will be a 5 mile horse drawn cavalcade around the town, which will be just like the old days before the motor car. Trade stalls expected to attend are from tarmacadam companies & roofline materials. The BBC are looking at making a special documentary on the event which will no doubt raise peoples awareness of Darlington. The Romanian buskers society will be attending with its orchestra and doing free recitals, and many will also bring their families with them. Horse shodding, ferret racing, purse net making & pretend coursing along with fortune telling and peg making will be among the many crafts for the children to interact with. Local schools are expected to attend this free event. It will put Darlington on the map for all the right reasons.!
Looking forward to this. It'll brighten up this increasingly grey town of ours.

tomtopper says...
8:03pm Fri 11 May 12

The actual numbers of proper Romany gipsies in Britain is minute.

Most of these 'travellers' are Irish tinkers, itinerant scrap-metal merchants or dubious waifs and strays from Eastern Europe doing a bit of freelance begging.

Somehow, they have managed to get themselves classified as a homogenous, oppressed ethnic group, with all the rights, privileges and lavish welfare benefits that entails.

They also seem to be exempt from planning laws and the clutches of the Inland Revenue.

Hardly a week goes by without some poor sap having to demolish a house or barn conversion which has been built without permission two feet too close to the road or in an area of natural beauty.

Yet opportunist 'travellers' can Tarmac over the Green Belt during a Bank Holiday weekend and, in utter contravention of planning regulations, set up an illegal caravan park and stay there for life.

Anyone who objects is smeared as a 'racist' by the very authorities we pay to enforce the law. You can't blame the gipsies if they are indulged by every card-carrying leftie in Britain.

Over the past few years, travellers have been transformed into a protected species, their lifestyle subsidised and proselytised.

They are treated as an oppressed ethnic minority, even though the term 'travelling community' encompasses everyone from genuine gipsies and Irish tinkers to Roma criminal gangs and assorted hippie throwback layabouts.

One thing they all seem to have in common is a reluctance to travel anywhere - or, at least, in the case of the Irish and Eastern European contingents, to stay put once they've arrived in England, where a buffet of benefits is laid before them.

There's a whole industry dedicated to pandering to the needs of travellers, even though most contribute absolutely nothing to society.

Wherever these camps are established, there is invariably an increase in crime. Even when they do move on, they leave behind scorched earth and piles of rubbish.

Yet the travellers are indulged by the authorities, while law-abiding, taxpaying local householders who voice their complaints are routinely threatened with prosecution for 'racism'.

tomtopper says...
8:12pm Fri 11 May 12

Re: above... not my actual comments but put on as in total agreement with them...

darlobikegirl says...
8:48pm Fri 11 May 12

Dean M wrote:
D D Coy wrote:

"Trade stalls expected to attend are from tarmacadam companies & roofline materials"
.
Ha!Ha! I do like this - nice one!
.
Although I have to say that darlobikegirl's suggestion of 'concentration camps' is probably along the right lines. It sounds a bit harsh - deliberately so on her part - but identifying one area for one site where the travellers can be concentrated seems reasonable to me.
Eh?! Did you not understand the context of my post?!

darlobikegirl says...
8:50pm Fri 11 May 12

Silly me, of course you didn't :-/

Mr Twat 2 You says...
8:54pm Fri 11 May 12

darlobikegirl wrote:
Silly me, of course you didn't :-/
darlobikegirl wrote:
Silly me........

That’s the first truth full thing you have said

Mr Twat 2 You says...
9:14pm Fri 11 May 12

Dean M wrote:
darlobikegirl wrote:
Silly me, of course you didn't :-/
Of course I did. You weren't seriously suggesting it as an option (certainly not as a 'concentration camp' in the Nazi sense), I know that. I'm just saying that the idea of a dedicated site is perhaps a good one.
How about next door to you and the Darlo bike ???

darlobikegirl says...
9:29pm Fri 11 May 12

Well good evening boys - this is just for you ....

http://j.mp/K2PWdV

Browsing says...
9:41pm Fri 11 May 12

I am a resident of Darlington and although I have no wish to remove any of the current traveller sites/pitches, I am strongly opposed to any futher sites or pitches being developed.

D D Coy says...
9:49pm Fri 11 May 12

darlobikegirl wrote:
Well good evening boys - this is just for you ....

http://j.mp/K2PWdV
Great web page dbg, derision & ridicule are the only things that some people understand. They only ever see a 'red mist' and they make the victims of their racist bigotry look a thousand times better than themselves.

As I thought, this thread is now top of the most commented articles on the N. Echo web-site, readers can now see what fools they are!

I only wish that someone would report a couple of correspondents to the police, because they should be prosecuted for writing such bile!

darlobikegirl says...
9:54pm Fri 11 May 12

Thanks :-) I do feel it important to challenge bigots, ignoring them will never make a problem go away.
Apparently commenters on here were discussed at council meeting last night & the Echo have been challenged to start doing something about this disease, sadly it all too often falls on deaf ears :-(
I've lost count of how many derogatory posts I've reported & yet they remain ...

mark.wilkinson says...
9:55pm Fri 11 May 12

What's up darlo bike? Do you feel the need to be accepted and have your warped views justified with your crappy pathetic blogs. Another keyboard warrior who graces us all with language that's about as extreme as you can get...very classy indeed. And you have the nerve to call yourself a good mother. Total scumbag
More like. You're nothing more than a dirty troll. Irrelevant and needy, like the spoilt little child that you are. You need help. Get some soon ok.

darlobikegirl says...
9:58pm Fri 11 May 12

mark.wilkinson wrote:
What's up darlo bike? Do you feel the need to be accepted and have your warped views justified with your crappy pathetic blogs. Another keyboard warrior who graces us all with language that's about as extreme as you can get...very classy indeed. And you have the nerve to call yourself a good mother. Total scumbag
More like. You're nothing more than a dirty troll. Irrelevant and needy, like the spoilt little child that you are. You need help. Get some soon ok.
and yet he still can't help himself. Seriously?
Oh the irony .....

Mr Twat 2 You says...
10:12pm Fri 11 May 12

D D Coy wrote:
darlobikegirl wrote:
Well good evening boys - this is just for you ....

http://j.mp/K2PWdV
Great web page dbg, derision & ridicule are the only things that some people understand. They only ever see a 'red mist' and they make the victims of their racist bigotry look a thousand times better than themselves.

As I thought, this thread is now top of the most commented articles on the N. Echo web-site, readers can now see what fools they are!

I only wish that someone would report a couple of correspondents to the police, because they should be prosecuted for writing such bile!
Why are the majority on here bigots (just because we have an opinion just like you) and you two right ?? what makes you right ?

darlobikegirl says...
10:21pm Fri 11 May 12

Not at all Dean, comments about the sites aren't the issue here & never were, everyone's entitled to voice their concerns over them, the problem is when you get disparaging remarks about a group of people that then turn into personal attacks on fellow commenters.
There's absolutely no need for Mark to go on the way he does, look back a few months & there were people on here who were capable of having a reasoned debate without resorting to bigotry.
The "disease" is that of trolling, using forums such as these to post remarks that bear no relevance to the article & to just be plain nasty about people. There's plenty of times I've seen stuff you post on articles for example & completely disagree with what you say BUT I would never be personally abusive to you & I've never seen you be like that either.
Sadly, there are people who just aren't interested in reasoned debate & (in my opinion) shouldn't be allowed to comment anymore - & I'm all for free speech but this takes it too far.

darlobikegirl says...
11:04pm Fri 11 May 12

Point taken ;-)

mark.wilkinson says...
8:32am Sat 12 May 12

darlobikegirl wrote:
Not at all Dean, comments about the sites aren't the issue here & never were, everyone's entitled to voice their concerns over them, the problem is when you get disparaging remarks about a group of people that then turn into personal attacks on fellow commenters.
There's absolutely no need for Mark to go on the way he does, look back a few months & there were people on here who were capable of having a reasoned debate without resorting to bigotry.
The "disease" is that of trolling, using forums such as these to post remarks that bear no relevance to the article & to just be plain nasty about people. There's plenty of times I've seen stuff you post on articles for example & completely disagree with what you say BUT I would never be personally abusive to you & I've never seen you be like that either.
Sadly, there are people who just aren't interested in reasoned debate & (in my opinion) shouldn't be allowed to comment anymore - & I'm all for free speech but this takes it too far.
youd never be personally abusive? Have you completely lost the plot? Have you read your own pathetic blogs? It seems to me that any comments on here must be agreeable to you otherwise the commentator is and idiot/bigot/racist/n
eeds to grow up etc etc. I've said it before darlobike, you are delusional and really need to get out more. And free speech is the very last thing you're all for. You are the bigot here. I'm bored to tears of you now. You're beyond help so happy Trolling and keep up the good work and the well thought out language on you're pathetic website. Classy girl.

darlobikegirl says...
9:26am Sat 12 May 12

You should join Twitter Mark, come have a look at some proper reasoned debates

darlobikegirl says...
1:03pm Sat 12 May 12

Oh & I forgot to mention, I'm taking "time off" from all the swears - just for you ;-)

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