Biker airlifted to hospital after accident near Stanhope

5:00pm Sunday 1st April 2012 in News By Duncan Leatherdale

The Air Ambulance at the scene The Air Ambulance at the scene

A MOTORCYCLIST was airlifted to hospital after suffering serious back injuries after falling from his machine.

The Great North Air Ambulance was called to Bollihope Moor near Stanhope, County Durham , at 11.30am this morning where they found the 57-year-old man had fallen off his bike.

The Pride of Cumbria helicopter took 10 minutes to reach the man from its base in Penrith, and 11 minutes to transport him to the Royal Victoria Infirmary in Newcastle.

The biker from Wakefield, West Yorkshire, was treated for a serious back injury and his condition was said to be stable.

Comments (33)

5:07pm Sun 1 Apr 12

fixthecouncil says...

here we go again....
bikers shouldlearn to drive more sensibly...i have my van up at alston and they fly past like lunatics.....tie for the police bike patrols to get to work again...there is a speed limit...but they do not stick to it....they all think they are valentino rossi....
here we go again.... bikers shouldlearn to drive more sensibly...i have my van up at alston and they fly past like lunatics.....tie for the police bike patrols to get to work again...there is a speed limit...but they do not stick to it....they all think they are valentino rossi.... fixthecouncil

5:55pm Sun 1 Apr 12

entitled opinion says...

fixthecouncil wrote:
here we go again....
bikers shouldlearn to drive more sensibly...i have my van up at alston and they fly past like lunatics.....tie for the police bike patrols to get to work again...there is a speed limit...but they do not stick to it....they all think they are valentino rossi....
and here we go again with people drawing their own conclusions when they were not there and do not know what the cause is yet. It's not just bikers that break the speed limit but if this was a car that had crashed then would you be jumping on the band wagon and slagging them off. Surely the first thing to comment on is the fact that someone has been seriously injured? No thoughts to wish the rider well? No just the usual ramblings about bikers. I hope the rider recoveres from his injurys. Think how you would feel if this was someone from your family and people are more concerned with assuming he is a stereotypical biker rather than wishing him well.
[quote][p][bold]fixthecouncil[/bold] wrote: here we go again.... bikers shouldlearn to drive more sensibly...i have my van up at alston and they fly past like lunatics.....tie for the police bike patrols to get to work again...there is a speed limit...but they do not stick to it....they all think they are valentino rossi....[/p][/quote]and here we go again with people drawing their own conclusions when they were not there and do not know what the cause is yet. It's not just bikers that break the speed limit but if this was a car that had crashed then would you be jumping on the band wagon and slagging them off. Surely the first thing to comment on is the fact that someone has been seriously injured? No thoughts to wish the rider well? No just the usual ramblings about bikers. I hope the rider recoveres from his injurys. Think how you would feel if this was someone from your family and people are more concerned with assuming he is a stereotypical biker rather than wishing him well. entitled opinion

8:56pm Sun 1 Apr 12

always right says...

fixthecouncil wrote:
here we go again.... bikers shouldlearn to drive more sensibly...i have my van up at alston and they fly past like lunatics.....tie for the police bike patrols to get to work again...there is a speed limit...but they do not stick to it....they all think they are valentino rossi....
What a crank you really are. i suggest you get in your old van and potter round the roads at 35mph,annoying everyone as you do !. yep,i think i got YOU worked out. Your the type that would give a statement of "the vehicle was doing about 90mph officer" when it was really doing 35. Go fix your head,before you attempt to fixthecouncil !.
[quote][p][bold]fixthecouncil[/bold] wrote: here we go again.... bikers shouldlearn to drive more sensibly...i have my van up at alston and they fly past like lunatics.....tie for the police bike patrols to get to work again...there is a speed limit...but they do not stick to it....they all think they are valentino rossi....[/p][/quote]What a crank you really are. i suggest you get in your old van and potter round the roads at 35mph,annoying everyone as you do !. yep,i think i got YOU worked out. Your the type that would give a statement of "the vehicle was doing about 90mph officer" when it was really doing 35. Go fix your head,before you attempt to fixthecouncil !. always right

9:06pm Sun 1 Apr 12

Jonn says...

The first comment may be stereotypical but it's true.
We get a glorious sunny sunday and out come the power bikers racing around like maniacs.
I had a pack of them right up my backside while out driving today, I was doing 55-60 on a B road and they were desperate to overtake, really off putting when you're negotiating country roads. I slowed right down in the end just to let them pass as they were dodging the on coming traffic and I was sure I was going to end up in an accident.
These bikers put themselves on a vulnerable machine, ride public roads like a race track then say us car drivers don't pay diligence to them. I didn't see any car drivers doing over 100 mph today but saw enough bikers doing it.
The first comment may be stereotypical but it's true. We get a glorious sunny sunday and out come the power bikers racing around like maniacs. I had a pack of them right up my backside while out driving today, I was doing 55-60 on a B road and they were desperate to overtake, really off putting when you're negotiating country roads. I slowed right down in the end just to let them pass as they were dodging the on coming traffic and I was sure I was going to end up in an accident. These bikers put themselves on a vulnerable machine, ride public roads like a race track then say us car drivers don't pay diligence to them. I didn't see any car drivers doing over 100 mph today but saw enough bikers doing it. Jonn

9:18pm Sun 1 Apr 12

always right says...

Jonn wrote:
The first comment may be stereotypical but it's true. We get a glorious sunny sunday and out come the power bikers racing around like maniacs. I had a pack of them right up my backside while out driving today, I was doing 55-60 on a B road and they were desperate to overtake, really off putting when you're negotiating country roads. I slowed right down in the end just to let them pass as they were dodging the on coming traffic and I was sure I was going to end up in an accident. These bikers put themselves on a vulnerable machine, ride public roads like a race track then say us car drivers don't pay diligence to them. I didn't see any car drivers doing over 100 mph today but saw enough bikers doing it.
You too fall into the categorie i have mentioned above !. You must have very good eyes to see the speedo registering 100mph + on the bike as it past you !,very good eyes indeed !,or a weard brain !.
[quote][p][bold]Jonn[/bold] wrote: The first comment may be stereotypical but it's true. We get a glorious sunny sunday and out come the power bikers racing around like maniacs. I had a pack of them right up my backside while out driving today, I was doing 55-60 on a B road and they were desperate to overtake, really off putting when you're negotiating country roads. I slowed right down in the end just to let them pass as they were dodging the on coming traffic and I was sure I was going to end up in an accident. These bikers put themselves on a vulnerable machine, ride public roads like a race track then say us car drivers don't pay diligence to them. I didn't see any car drivers doing over 100 mph today but saw enough bikers doing it.[/p][/quote]You too fall into the categorie i have mentioned above !. You must have very good eyes to see the speedo registering 100mph + on the bike as it past you !,very good eyes indeed !,or a weard brain !. always right

9:39pm Sun 1 Apr 12

diga says...

In Darlington today I saw a black car nearly take a biker off his bike by swapping lanes on a roundabout near sainsburys. I'm sure the car driver wasn't even aware... The biker didn't do anything wrong and that's the reason I won't go pillion on my husband's bike.... Yes, you see bikers doing crazy things but you also see other road users doing the same type of thing.
In Darlington today I saw a black car nearly take a biker off his bike by swapping lanes on a roundabout near sainsburys. I'm sure the car driver wasn't even aware... The biker didn't do anything wrong and that's the reason I won't go pillion on my husband's bike.... Yes, you see bikers doing crazy things but you also see other road users doing the same type of thing. diga

9:58pm Sun 1 Apr 12

Jolly Roger says...

Well this biker fell off his machine, why???

Car drivers are told to think biker, well is it not time to say to the bikers Think about yourself, stick to the speed limit and stay safe.

Because up to now most of the accidents mentioned in this paper Bikers have fallen off without another motorist involved.
Well this biker fell off his machine, why??? Car drivers are told to think biker, well is it not time to say to the bikers Think about yourself, stick to the speed limit and stay safe. Because up to now most of the accidents mentioned in this paper Bikers have fallen off without another motorist involved. Jolly Roger

10:40pm Sun 1 Apr 12

Jonn says...

always right wrote:
Jonn wrote:
The first comment may be stereotypical but it's true. We get a glorious sunny sunday and out come the power bikers racing around like maniacs. I had a pack of them right up my backside while out driving today, I was doing 55-60 on a B road and they were desperate to overtake, really off putting when you're negotiating country roads. I slowed right down in the end just to let them pass as they were dodging the on coming traffic and I was sure I was going to end up in an accident. These bikers put themselves on a vulnerable machine, ride public roads like a race track then say us car drivers don't pay diligence to them. I didn't see any car drivers doing over 100 mph today but saw enough bikers doing it.
You too fall into the categorie i have mentioned above !. You must have very good eyes to see the speedo registering 100mph + on the bike as it past you !,very good eyes indeed !,or a weard brain !.
Thanks for categorising me but I don't drive an old van, I drive a Jaguar xjs which I'd rather didn't end up with a biker all over the paintwork. I do have good eye sight however but not good enough to read passing motorbike speedos but it is fairly easy to estimate that when I am doing 60 mph and a motorbike flys past you and quickly disappears into the distance that he's going well over the speed limit and pretty much tonning it, probably more... We all know they do it, you see it every weekend when it's biker weather, why defend it?
[quote][p][bold]always right[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jonn[/bold] wrote: The first comment may be stereotypical but it's true. We get a glorious sunny sunday and out come the power bikers racing around like maniacs. I had a pack of them right up my backside while out driving today, I was doing 55-60 on a B road and they were desperate to overtake, really off putting when you're negotiating country roads. I slowed right down in the end just to let them pass as they were dodging the on coming traffic and I was sure I was going to end up in an accident. These bikers put themselves on a vulnerable machine, ride public roads like a race track then say us car drivers don't pay diligence to them. I didn't see any car drivers doing over 100 mph today but saw enough bikers doing it.[/p][/quote]You too fall into the categorie i have mentioned above !. You must have very good eyes to see the speedo registering 100mph + on the bike as it past you !,very good eyes indeed !,or a weard brain !.[/p][/quote]Thanks for categorising me but I don't drive an old van, I drive a Jaguar xjs which I'd rather didn't end up with a biker all over the paintwork. I do have good eye sight however but not good enough to read passing motorbike speedos but it is fairly easy to estimate that when I am doing 60 mph and a motorbike flys past you and quickly disappears into the distance that he's going well over the speed limit and pretty much tonning it, probably more... We all know they do it, you see it every weekend when it's biker weather, why defend it? Jonn

11:57pm Sun 1 Apr 12

spragger says...

Its not even Easter yet and the bikers are already out trying to kill themselves

The 'born again biker' season begins earlier every year
Its not even Easter yet and the bikers are already out trying to kill themselves The 'born again biker' season begins earlier every year spragger

12:57am Mon 2 Apr 12

taffyruffles says...

Do one and fcuk off CRETIN
Do one and fcuk off CRETIN taffyruffles

12:58am Mon 2 Apr 12

taffyruffles says...

fixthecouncil.

Do one get alife or just fcuk CRETIN
fixthecouncil. Do one get alife or just fcuk CRETIN taffyruffles

7:39am Mon 2 Apr 12

assasin420 says...

I normally read and keep quiet but feel I have to say something on his one.

It's fairly common knowledge that the bikes appear after the 1st April, rather ironic date I suppose.
One reason is many only road tax the bike for 6 months as they are stored away for winter.
Come the 1st sunny weekend they are out in their droves and I admit some take risks, ride at excessive speeds and are a danger. However in a collision there is usually one BIG loser on a bike the rider.
I cringe when I see some of them and often say out loud, 'take it easy fella' especially when I find them overshooting a bend and coming towards me on my side of the road.

From a car drivers point of view, yes, they will appear to be going fast and can be noisy. However they have phenomenal brakes and the power enables swift safe overtakes you can't consider in a car.
I agree with many though, if you want to push it to the max do a track day, there are 2 many risks on the public roads, especially on a warm Sunday.You don't have to ride like a moto GP rider to enjoy yourself and remember what happened to Marco Simoncelli last year as opposed to Rossi.

For the record I have a large 4x4 but have been a biker for 35 years, have a 1000cc sports/tourer and am an advanced bike observer. Personally white van man, flighty horses, and foreign HGV's scare me the most.

Final message to bikers reading,
"110% concentration guys and don't take the risks, somebody wants to see you come back home safe. Consider them as well as yourself."
I normally read and keep quiet but feel I have to say something on his one. It's fairly common knowledge that the bikes appear after the 1st April, rather ironic date I suppose. One reason is many only road tax the bike for 6 months as they are stored away for winter. Come the 1st sunny weekend they are out in their droves and I admit some take risks, ride at excessive speeds and are a danger. However in a collision there is usually one BIG loser on a bike the rider. I cringe when I see some of them and often say out loud, 'take it easy fella' especially when I find them overshooting a bend and coming towards me on my side of the road. From a car drivers point of view, yes, they will appear to be going fast and can be noisy. However they have phenomenal brakes and the power enables swift safe overtakes you can't consider in a car. I agree with many though, if you want to push it to the max do a track day, there are 2 many risks on the public roads, especially on a warm Sunday.You don't have to ride like a moto GP rider to enjoy yourself and remember what happened to Marco Simoncelli last year as opposed to Rossi. For the record I have a large 4x4 but have been a biker for 35 years, have a 1000cc sports/tourer and am an advanced bike observer. Personally white van man, flighty horses, and foreign HGV's scare me the most. Final message to bikers reading, "110% concentration guys and don't take the risks, somebody wants to see you come back home safe. Consider them as well as yourself." assasin420

8:01am Mon 2 Apr 12

artisti says...

I normally keep quiet too...

As a biker and car driver I am appalled by many people on our local roads. Yes there are idiots out there, both on bikes, but I'm afraid more in cars.

Just last night whilst driving down some unfimiliar roads I had cars sitting right behind me, edging to get past. One came screening past on a blind bend, I was doing 55mph myself.

Only two minutes later a driving crosses the white line towards me whistling chatting on their mobile.

On my bike I have experienced some very dangerous driving from drivers who just don't use their eyes or indicators.

People should stop judging others. My best wishes go out to the unfortunate biker, regardless of fault or cause.
I normally keep quiet too... As a biker and car driver I am appalled by many people on our local roads. Yes there are idiots out there, both on bikes, but I'm afraid more in cars. Just last night whilst driving down some unfimiliar roads I had cars sitting right behind me, edging to get past. One came screening past on a blind bend, I was doing 55mph myself. Only two minutes later a driving crosses the white line towards me whistling chatting on their mobile. On my bike I have experienced some very dangerous driving from drivers who just don't use their eyes or indicators. People should stop judging others. My best wishes go out to the unfortunate biker, regardless of fault or cause. artisti

8:47am Mon 2 Apr 12

nightingales01 says...

Here we go again car drivers vs bike riders. I belong to teessidebikers.co.uk we have a brilliant bond with Durham Police and the bikewise team, We attend briefings at Police HQ, to get advice and guidance re-riding in the Dales, They also show us black spot area,s.
When we go into the area we try to use local business, to help support local economy also.

Vast majority of our riders have gained advanced training through many different organisations at their own time and expense.

Some of these advanced techniques to those whom are not in the know, may look from the outside as dangerous.

So just to clarify we spend alot of time and effort, in extra training. what have you done since passing a car test?

We work with the police and locals to keep up a good relationship.

The last thing a biker wants is not to return home to his/her family at the end of a ride, but if and error occurs/accident then they pray they only hurt themselves.

So as a car drivers, try brushing up your skills and come and talk with us or Durham police to see what you can do when driving to assist us, do not cast uneducated points of view.
Here we go again car drivers vs bike riders. I belong to teessidebikers.co.uk we have a brilliant bond with Durham Police and the bikewise team, We attend briefings at Police HQ, to get advice and guidance re-riding in the Dales, They also show us black spot area,s. When we go into the area we try to use local business, to help support local economy also. Vast majority of our riders have gained advanced training through many different organisations at their own time and expense. Some of these advanced techniques to those whom are not in the know, may look from the outside as dangerous. So just to clarify we spend alot of time and effort, in extra training. what have you done since passing a car test? We work with the police and locals to keep up a good relationship. The last thing a biker wants is not to return home to his/her family at the end of a ride, but if and error occurs/accident then they pray they only hurt themselves. So as a car drivers, try brushing up your skills and come and talk with us or Durham police to see what you can do when driving to assist us, do not cast uneducated points of view. nightingales01

8:55am Mon 2 Apr 12

Ahoy Tiny Crisp says...

artisti wrote:
I normally keep quiet too...

As a biker and car driver I am appalled by many people on our local roads. Yes there are idiots out there, both on bikes, but I'm afraid more in cars.

Just last night whilst driving down some unfimiliar roads I had cars sitting right behind me, edging to get past. One came screening past on a blind bend, I was doing 55mph myself.

Only two minutes later a driving crosses the white line towards me whistling chatting on their mobile.

On my bike I have experienced some very dangerous driving from drivers who just don't use their eyes or indicators.

People should stop judging others. My best wishes go out to the unfortunate biker, regardless of fault or cause.
I quite agree with this, I believe I am a much more careful driver having had cars and bikes most my adult life however I will say that there are tooo many dim witted drivers on too fast bikes, the combination is lethal. Dont presume to know the cause of this crash hopes he gets well soon.
[quote][p][bold]artisti[/bold] wrote: I normally keep quiet too... As a biker and car driver I am appalled by many people on our local roads. Yes there are idiots out there, both on bikes, but I'm afraid more in cars. Just last night whilst driving down some unfimiliar roads I had cars sitting right behind me, edging to get past. One came screening past on a blind bend, I was doing 55mph myself. Only two minutes later a driving crosses the white line towards me whistling chatting on their mobile. On my bike I have experienced some very dangerous driving from drivers who just don't use their eyes or indicators. People should stop judging others. My best wishes go out to the unfortunate biker, regardless of fault or cause.[/p][/quote]I quite agree with this, I believe I am a much more careful driver having had cars and bikes most my adult life however I will say that there are tooo many dim witted drivers on too fast bikes, the combination is lethal. Dont presume to know the cause of this crash hopes he gets well soon. Ahoy Tiny Crisp

5:14pm Mon 2 Apr 12

Edmondsley says...

We have a problem with motorcyclists (and car drivers) apparently breaking the speed limit in our village. The police suggested we volunteer to man speed guns (speedwatch) then said they carried out a risk assessment and thought it too dangerous to stand on the footpath in the speed limit area so decided they can do nothing.
We have a problem with motorcyclists (and car drivers) apparently breaking the speed limit in our village. The police suggested we volunteer to man speed guns (speedwatch) then said they carried out a risk assessment and thought it too dangerous to stand on the footpath in the speed limit area so decided they can do nothing. Edmondsley

5:50pm Mon 2 Apr 12

neninja says...

Typical blinkered comments from the anti-biking brigade. You get bad motorcyclists exactly the same as you get bad drivers.

Surely the most important thing is that he's OK. Instead some narrow minded idiots would rather make daft bigoted comments without knowing anything of the circumstances of the accident.

From the picture he might have fallen from an off-road bike on a moorland trail which has nothing to do with 'speeding'.
Typical blinkered comments from the anti-biking brigade. You get bad motorcyclists exactly the same as you get bad drivers. Surely the most important thing is that he's OK. Instead some narrow minded idiots would rather make daft bigoted comments without knowing anything of the circumstances of the accident. From the picture he might have fallen from an off-road bike on a moorland trail which has nothing to do with 'speeding'. neninja

9:12pm Mon 2 Apr 12

transit2 says...

Loss of road courtesy now, cars and bikes. Everybody in such a rush nobody seems to take time for defensive driving or allowing for another's mistake. Had my bike accident in early 70's, recovered but starting to feel affects now. Wish him a speedy recovery.
Loss of road courtesy now, cars and bikes. Everybody in such a rush nobody seems to take time for defensive driving or allowing for another's mistake. Had my bike accident in early 70's, recovered but starting to feel affects now. Wish him a speedy recovery. transit2

11:00am Tue 3 Apr 12

ianh says...

Pretty much the full range of typical views there, and at least some truth in most of them.
First and foremost none of us know the circumstances of this particular incident, but whatever happended i wish him a full and speedy recovery.

At the end of the day, there are good and poor riders, juat as there are good and poor drivers (and cyclists, horse riders and pedestrians!).

I KNOW that riding bikes makes me a better and more observant driver.
You certainly do get a very different perception of speed and space when driving a car rather than riding though and i believe this can explain may of the responses from none-riders on here.
Observation and anticipation are the key skills for all road users, including pedestrians, but one that most frequently is lacking.

The vast majority of riders are only too aware of their own vulnerability and behave accordingly.
Drivers often feel insulated from such safety concerns and it is this lack of awareness which can be a major risk to all other road users.
Pretty much the full range of typical views there, and at least some truth in most of them. First and foremost none of us know the circumstances of this particular incident, but whatever happended i wish him a full and speedy recovery. At the end of the day, there are good and poor riders, juat as there are good and poor drivers (and cyclists, horse riders and pedestrians!). I KNOW that riding bikes makes me a better and more observant driver. You certainly do get a very different perception of speed and space when driving a car rather than riding though and i believe this can explain may of the responses from none-riders on here. Observation and anticipation are the key skills for all road users, including pedestrians, but one that most frequently is lacking. The vast majority of riders are only too aware of their own vulnerability and behave accordingly. Drivers often feel insulated from such safety concerns and it is this lack of awareness which can be a major risk to all other road users. ianh

12:18pm Tue 3 Apr 12

fixthecouncil says...

always right wrote:
fixthecouncil wrote:
here we go again.... bikers shouldlearn to drive more sensibly...i have my van up at alston and they fly past like lunatics.....tie for the police bike patrols to get to work again...there is a speed limit...but they do not stick to it....they all think they are valentino rossi....
What a crank you really are. i suggest you get in your old van and potter round the roads at 35mph,annoying everyone as you do !. yep,i think i got YOU worked out. Your the type that would give a statement of "the vehicle was doing about 90mph officer" when it was really doing 35. Go fix your head,before you attempt to fixthecouncil !.
lol...i am a 30 year old...drive a mercedes 2011 cruiser van.....take the family away for breaks and then have those idiots who do fly past at 90 m.p.h. on bends...oh! and by the way..i also own and compete in moto x competitions....i have no sympathy at all for those who speed and break the law...and yes..i have never broken the law in my life.....
[quote][p][bold]always right[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fixthecouncil[/bold] wrote: here we go again.... bikers shouldlearn to drive more sensibly...i have my van up at alston and they fly past like lunatics.....tie for the police bike patrols to get to work again...there is a speed limit...but they do not stick to it....they all think they are valentino rossi....[/p][/quote]What a crank you really are. i suggest you get in your old van and potter round the roads at 35mph,annoying everyone as you do !. yep,i think i got YOU worked out. Your the type that would give a statement of "the vehicle was doing about 90mph officer" when it was really doing 35. Go fix your head,before you attempt to fixthecouncil !.[/p][/quote]lol...i am a 30 year old...drive a mercedes 2011 cruiser van.....take the family away for breaks and then have those idiots who do fly past at 90 m.p.h. on bends...oh! and by the way..i also own and compete in moto x competitions....i have no sympathy at all for those who speed and break the law...and yes..i have never broken the law in my life..... fixthecouncil

4:31pm Tue 3 Apr 12

ianh says...

think you will find that many motorcyclists are also family men and women.

There is no suggestion that this motorcylist was speeding, you are simply making an assumption with no evidence whatsoever to back it up.
think you will find that many motorcyclists are also family men and women. There is no suggestion that this motorcylist was speeding, you are simply making an assumption with no evidence whatsoever to back it up. ianh

7:19pm Tue 3 Apr 12

muzzasv says...

i read quite allot of the posts on these but have never had an account on here until now and allot of the posts i read from you (ever so great cant put a foot wrong) car drivers that really infuriate me at times but now its gotten to the point where i cant help but laugh at most of your posts. as with nightingales01 i too am a member of www.teessidebikers.c
o.uk and help out with numerous things such as what he has listed above. also like ianh says you do get a better perception of speed, i do a bit of track riding so i spend allot of time on the track in triple figure speeds and after a while you get used to it and you can react allot quicker whereas when you have your goody goody 2 shoes car drivers who wont ever go any faster than 70 they simply cannot keep up with a biker when it comes to observation skills hence the common car driver term "smidsy" or "sorry mate i didnt see you" as the women who knocked me off my point said to me (i was doing 30 in a 30 zone) though when the police asked her "did he have his lights on" she replied " i think so yeah" clearly just told the police it wasn't that she didn't see me she just wasn't paying attention. anyway rant over i wish the chap a speedy recovery. oh p.s im 21 years old and i don't know if many will agree but i think a post like this from a 21 year old motorcyclist should be regarded as pretty sensible in the eyes of a matured car driver, so if a 21 year old acts sensible, I'm pretty sure the 57 year old bloke in the article was acting sensible!
i read quite allot of the posts on these but have never had an account on here until now and allot of the posts i read from you (ever so great cant put a foot wrong) car drivers that really infuriate me at times but now its gotten to the point where i cant help but laugh at most of your posts. as with nightingales01 i too am a member of www.teessidebikers.c o.uk and help out with numerous things such as what he has listed above. also like ianh says you do get a better perception of speed, i do a bit of track riding so i spend allot of time on the track in triple figure speeds and after a while you get used to it and you can react allot quicker whereas when you have your goody goody 2 shoes car drivers who wont ever go any faster than 70 they simply cannot keep up with a biker when it comes to observation skills hence the common car driver term "smidsy" or "sorry mate i didnt see you" as the women who knocked me off my point said to me (i was doing 30 in a 30 zone) though when the police asked her "did he have his lights on" she replied " i think so yeah" clearly just told the police it wasn't that she didn't see me she just wasn't paying attention. anyway rant over i wish the chap a speedy recovery. oh p.s im 21 years old and i don't know if many will agree but i think a post like this from a 21 year old motorcyclist should be regarded as pretty sensible in the eyes of a matured car driver, so if a 21 year old acts sensible, I'm pretty sure the 57 year old bloke in the article was acting sensible! muzzasv

8:20pm Tue 3 Apr 12

nightingales01 says...

Edmondsley wrote:
We have a problem with motorcyclists (and car drivers) apparently breaking the speed limit in our village. The police suggested we volunteer to man speed guns (speedwatch) then said they carried out a risk assessment and thought it too dangerous to stand on the footpath in the speed limit area so decided they can do nothing.
edmondsley feel free to email puerile@live.co.uk and let us know what village and we will spread the word around the biking community, we have links all over the area
[quote][p][bold]Edmondsley[/bold] wrote: We have a problem with motorcyclists (and car drivers) apparently breaking the speed limit in our village. The police suggested we volunteer to man speed guns (speedwatch) then said they carried out a risk assessment and thought it too dangerous to stand on the footpath in the speed limit area so decided they can do nothing.[/p][/quote]edmondsley feel free to email puerile@live.co.uk and let us know what village and we will spread the word around the biking community, we have links all over the area nightingales01

8:03am Wed 4 Apr 12

delboy1977 says...

A freind of mine rode with me every weekend to Hartside cafe, we did this for over ten years without incident, then one morning he decided as a one off to take his bike to work, on the way he was travelling along a long straight bypass when a van pulled across the road in front of him ! he is now in a wheelchair for the rest of his life ! the van driver claimed he never saw him although it was a perfectly clear morning and he had his lights on ! more training should be given to Drivers, not to be sexist but in my time on the road Women are the main offenders ! i have been travelling towards junctions and Women drivers have looked straight at me then pulled out !
A freind of mine rode with me every weekend to Hartside cafe, we did this for over ten years without incident, then one morning he decided as a one off to take his bike to work, on the way he was travelling along a long straight bypass when a van pulled across the road in front of him ! he is now in a wheelchair for the rest of his life ! the van driver claimed he never saw him although it was a perfectly clear morning and he had his lights on ! more training should be given to Drivers, not to be sexist but in my time on the road Women are the main offenders ! i have been travelling towards junctions and Women drivers have looked straight at me then pulled out ! delboy1977

12:54pm Wed 4 Apr 12

fixthecouncil says...

taffyruffles wrote:
fixthecouncil.

Do one get alife or just fcuk CRETIN
moron...bet your a biker...as you cannot spell the queens english...l.o.l.....
just put the image of me in my car or van...then you going 80 on your bike......then you hittng a wall...whoops...your dead......
[quote][p][bold]taffyruffles[/bold] wrote: fixthecouncil. Do one get alife or just fcuk CRETIN[/p][/quote]moron...bet your a biker...as you cannot spell the queens english...l.o.l..... just put the image of me in my car or van...then you going 80 on your bike......then you hittng a wall...whoops...your dead...... fixthecouncil

4:58pm Wed 4 Apr 12

Jonn says...

muzzasv wrote:
i read quite allot of the posts on these but have never had an account on here until now and allot of the posts i read from you (ever so great cant put a foot wrong) car drivers that really infuriate me at times but now its gotten to the point where i cant help but laugh at most of your posts. as with nightingales01 i too am a member of www.teessidebikers.c

o.uk and help out with numerous things such as what he has listed above. also like ianh says you do get a better perception of speed, i do a bit of track riding so i spend allot of time on the track in triple figure speeds and after a while you get used to it and you can react allot quicker whereas when you have your goody goody 2 shoes car drivers who wont ever go any faster than 70 they simply cannot keep up with a biker when it comes to observation skills hence the common car driver term "smidsy" or "sorry mate i didnt see you" as the women who knocked me off my point said to me (i was doing 30 in a 30 zone) though when the police asked her "did he have his lights on" she replied " i think so yeah" clearly just told the police it wasn't that she didn't see me she just wasn't paying attention. anyway rant over i wish the chap a speedy recovery. oh p.s im 21 years old and i don't know if many will agree but i think a post like this from a 21 year old motorcyclist should be regarded as pretty sensible in the eyes of a matured car driver, so if a 21 year old acts sensible, I'm pretty sure the 57 year old bloke in the article was acting sensible!
I'm sure you are a fully trained up and experienced rider. I do think though that when you mention being used to triple figure speeds and having better reaction, perception etc, it really does appear to me that, like a lot of the high speed bike riders, you take this outlook onto the public roads. You maybe able to handle 100 plus mile an hour but the maximum speed limit is 70 on public roads. You never see these super bikers going with the traffic flow on A and B roads, always wanting to be up your backside and desperate to overtake with half a chance in an 'I'm faster than the lot of you' way.
I actually used to ride a bike, a lambretta, obviously not for speed but for the pleasure but gave up a couple of years ago as I was involved in some very near misses with car drivers pulling out of junctions so I do see both sides.
[quote][p][bold]muzzasv[/bold] wrote: i read quite allot of the posts on these but have never had an account on here until now and allot of the posts i read from you (ever so great cant put a foot wrong) car drivers that really infuriate me at times but now its gotten to the point where i cant help but laugh at most of your posts. as with nightingales01 i too am a member of www.teessidebikers.c o.uk and help out with numerous things such as what he has listed above. also like ianh says you do get a better perception of speed, i do a bit of track riding so i spend allot of time on the track in triple figure speeds and after a while you get used to it and you can react allot quicker whereas when you have your goody goody 2 shoes car drivers who wont ever go any faster than 70 they simply cannot keep up with a biker when it comes to observation skills hence the common car driver term "smidsy" or "sorry mate i didnt see you" as the women who knocked me off my point said to me (i was doing 30 in a 30 zone) though when the police asked her "did he have his lights on" she replied " i think so yeah" clearly just told the police it wasn't that she didn't see me she just wasn't paying attention. anyway rant over i wish the chap a speedy recovery. oh p.s im 21 years old and i don't know if many will agree but i think a post like this from a 21 year old motorcyclist should be regarded as pretty sensible in the eyes of a matured car driver, so if a 21 year old acts sensible, I'm pretty sure the 57 year old bloke in the article was acting sensible![/p][/quote]I'm sure you are a fully trained up and experienced rider. I do think though that when you mention being used to triple figure speeds and having better reaction, perception etc, it really does appear to me that, like a lot of the high speed bike riders, you take this outlook onto the public roads. You maybe able to handle 100 plus mile an hour but the maximum speed limit is 70 on public roads. You never see these super bikers going with the traffic flow on A and B roads, always wanting to be up your backside and desperate to overtake with half a chance in an 'I'm faster than the lot of you' way. I actually used to ride a bike, a lambretta, obviously not for speed but for the pleasure but gave up a couple of years ago as I was involved in some very near misses with car drivers pulling out of junctions so I do see both sides. Jonn

10:11pm Thu 5 Apr 12

leilani1 says...

fixthecouncil wrote:
here we go again....
bikers shouldlearn to drive more sensibly...i have my van up at alston and they fly past like lunatics.....tie for the police bike patrols to get to work again...there is a speed limit...but they do not stick to it....they all think they are valentino rossi....
well well well i have lived in the next village down from stanhope for 14 plus years and i live next to the 30 signs and i hear bikers go past my house every weekend and its like a race track but if thats wat they want to do to enjoy themselfs bearing in mind my partner has a bike and its up to him if he wants to go the speeds that he wants to do its not the bikers that are the problem it is the car drivers that drive with a phone in their hands and cant see them but get a life not everyone are angels we all do silly things in life and bikers choose to go fast if the bike goes 100 mph then it is made to go that speed if a car goes 100 mph the engine has prob blown up and lets be honest has you never gone above 30 in a 30 and 60 in a 60 no because you are prim and proper
[quote][p][bold]fixthecouncil[/bold] wrote: here we go again.... bikers shouldlearn to drive more sensibly...i have my van up at alston and they fly past like lunatics.....tie for the police bike patrols to get to work again...there is a speed limit...but they do not stick to it....they all think they are valentino rossi....[/p][/quote]well well well i have lived in the next village down from stanhope for 14 plus years and i live next to the 30 signs and i hear bikers go past my house every weekend and its like a race track but if thats wat they want to do to enjoy themselfs bearing in mind my partner has a bike and its up to him if he wants to go the speeds that he wants to do its not the bikers that are the problem it is the car drivers that drive with a phone in their hands and cant see them but get a life not everyone are angels we all do silly things in life and bikers choose to go fast if the bike goes 100 mph then it is made to go that speed if a car goes 100 mph the engine has prob blown up and lets be honest has you never gone above 30 in a 30 and 60 in a 60 no because you are prim and proper leilani1

6:54pm Fri 6 Apr 12

Jonn says...

leilani1 wrote:
fixthecouncil wrote:
here we go again....
bikers shouldlearn to drive more sensibly...i have my van up at alston and they fly past like lunatics.....tie for the police bike patrols to get to work again...there is a speed limit...but they do not stick to it....they all think they are valentino rossi....
well well well i have lived in the next village down from stanhope for 14 plus years and i live next to the 30 signs and i hear bikers go past my house every weekend and its like a race track but if thats wat they want to do to enjoy themselfs bearing in mind my partner has a bike and its up to him if he wants to go the speeds that he wants to do its not the bikers that are the problem it is the car drivers that drive with a phone in their hands and cant see them but get a life not everyone are angels we all do silly things in life and bikers choose to go fast if the bike goes 100 mph then it is made to go that speed if a car goes 100 mph the engine has prob blown up and lets be honest has you never gone above 30 in a 30 and 60 in a 60 no because you are prim and proper
Well, that pretty much sums up alot of these bikers attitudes doesn't it. Some of these machines are frighteningly fast and don't they like to prove it. Treating country roads like a race track while others are using it is very selfish but typical. If it goes 100 mph plus, then why not, is pretty **** idiotic.
Yes, we've all gone over the speed limit by a degree or so but not to the excesses you bikers are talking about.
People should read some of the biker forums where they talk about routes with 'fast' stretches and 'challenging' bends they use for their high speed hobbies and times to avoid the policed areas.
You don't hear car drivers talking like that.
[quote][p][bold]leilani1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fixthecouncil[/bold] wrote: here we go again.... bikers shouldlearn to drive more sensibly...i have my van up at alston and they fly past like lunatics.....tie for the police bike patrols to get to work again...there is a speed limit...but they do not stick to it....they all think they are valentino rossi....[/p][/quote]well well well i have lived in the next village down from stanhope for 14 plus years and i live next to the 30 signs and i hear bikers go past my house every weekend and its like a race track but if thats wat they want to do to enjoy themselfs bearing in mind my partner has a bike and its up to him if he wants to go the speeds that he wants to do its not the bikers that are the problem it is the car drivers that drive with a phone in their hands and cant see them but get a life not everyone are angels we all do silly things in life and bikers choose to go fast if the bike goes 100 mph then it is made to go that speed if a car goes 100 mph the engine has prob blown up and lets be honest has you never gone above 30 in a 30 and 60 in a 60 no because you are prim and proper[/p][/quote]Well, that pretty much sums up alot of these bikers attitudes doesn't it. Some of these machines are frighteningly fast and don't they like to prove it. Treating country roads like a race track while others are using it is very selfish but typical. If it goes 100 mph plus, then why not, is pretty **** idiotic. Yes, we've all gone over the speed limit by a degree or so but not to the excesses you bikers are talking about. People should read some of the biker forums where they talk about routes with 'fast' stretches and 'challenging' bends they use for their high speed hobbies and times to avoid the policed areas. You don't hear car drivers talking like that. Jonn

7:47pm Fri 6 Apr 12

Browsing says...

Firstly, I would like to say I hope the rider makes a full recovery from his injuries.
Now to respond to some of the entertaining comments. Bike accidents generally, will cause the rider more severe injuries than car drivers and as such become more of a headliner for the newspaper which is probably why we seem to hear more reports about bike accidents. The chances are that an accident in a car at the same speed and location of a similar accident involving a bike would probably not involve an injury to the car driver. Whereas the biker would be thrown from the bike and possibly end up hitting some form of obstacle which would and could cause severe injuries. The speeds of the vehicles could be identical and well within the speed limit but always the biker will fare worse.
To suggest this accident was due to excessive speed is pure speculation, as in a lot of cases you will find that the rider is within the speed limit though not necessarily at the right speed for the road, there is a difference. I would agree that some, not all, bikers do use excessive speed, but so do some car drivers. I have been overtaken by cars, in unsafe places, when on my motorbike travelling at the legal limit, so for all you non bikers, look to your own as well.
Firstly, I would like to say I hope the rider makes a full recovery from his injuries. Now to respond to some of the entertaining comments. Bike accidents generally, will cause the rider more severe injuries than car drivers and as such become more of a headliner for the newspaper which is probably why we seem to hear more reports about bike accidents. The chances are that an accident in a car at the same speed and location of a similar accident involving a bike would probably not involve an injury to the car driver. Whereas the biker would be thrown from the bike and possibly end up hitting some form of obstacle which would and could cause severe injuries. The speeds of the vehicles could be identical and well within the speed limit but always the biker will fare worse. To suggest this accident was due to excessive speed is pure speculation, as in a lot of cases you will find that the rider is within the speed limit though not necessarily at the right speed for the road, there is a difference. I would agree that some, not all, bikers do use excessive speed, but so do some car drivers. I have been overtaken by cars, in unsafe places, when on my motorbike travelling at the legal limit, so for all you non bikers, look to your own as well. Browsing

10:40am Sat 7 Apr 12

spragger says...

Bikers in denial
The stats speak for themselves, along with most peoples eyes on the road.
Anyone not been burned off by a biker in an inappropriate place on the road?
Bikers in denial The stats speak for themselves, along with most peoples eyes on the road. Anyone not been burned off by a biker in an inappropriate place on the road? spragger

2:58pm Sat 7 Apr 12

fixthecouncil says...

spragger wrote:
Bikers in denial
The stats speak for themselves, along with most peoples eyes on the road.
Anyone not been burned off by a biker in an inappropriate place on the road?
police must have been reading the posts....speed cops caught at least 20 bikers today in stanhope over the speed limit...lol....it was great watching them try to slow down....police motorcyclist managed to keep up with though.....and they got tickets not just a telling off for being super bike riders.....speed limits are there for a reason....
[quote][p][bold]spragger[/bold] wrote: Bikers in denial The stats speak for themselves, along with most peoples eyes on the road. Anyone not been burned off by a biker in an inappropriate place on the road?[/p][/quote]police must have been reading the posts....speed cops caught at least 20 bikers today in stanhope over the speed limit...lol....it was great watching them try to slow down....police motorcyclist managed to keep up with though.....and they got tickets not just a telling off for being super bike riders.....speed limits are there for a reason.... fixthecouncil

6:50pm Sat 7 Apr 12

Jonn says...

fixthecouncil wrote:
spragger wrote:
Bikers in denial
The stats speak for themselves, along with most peoples eyes on the road.
Anyone not been burned off by a biker in an inappropriate place on the road?
police must have been reading the posts....speed cops caught at least 20 bikers today in stanhope over the speed limit...lol....it was great watching them try to slow down....police motorcyclist managed to keep up with though.....and they got tickets not just a telling off for being super bike riders.....speed limits are there for a reason....
Only 20!
Check out link to this biker website
http://www.bestbikin
groads.com/motorcycl
e-roads/motorbike-ri
des-in-united-kingdo
m-/united-kingdom-__
134.html

Video after video of bikers on Britains country roads, overtaking, speeding, weaving in and out, using all of the road etc..
I suppose this is just the odd maniac is it? Looks like what I see most weekends when the bikers are out.
[quote][p][bold]fixthecouncil[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]spragger[/bold] wrote: Bikers in denial The stats speak for themselves, along with most peoples eyes on the road. Anyone not been burned off by a biker in an inappropriate place on the road?[/p][/quote]police must have been reading the posts....speed cops caught at least 20 bikers today in stanhope over the speed limit...lol....it was great watching them try to slow down....police motorcyclist managed to keep up with though.....and they got tickets not just a telling off for being super bike riders.....speed limits are there for a reason....[/p][/quote]Only 20! Check out link to this biker website http://www.bestbikin groads.com/motorcycl e-roads/motorbike-ri des-in-united-kingdo m-/united-kingdom-__ 134.html Video after video of bikers on Britains country roads, overtaking, speeding, weaving in and out, using all of the road etc.. I suppose this is just the odd maniac is it? Looks like what I see most weekends when the bikers are out. Jonn

1:04pm Sun 8 Apr 12

taffyruffles says...

ixthecouncil says...
12:54pm Wed 4 Apr 12

taffyruffles wrote:
fixthecouncil.

Do one get alife or just fcuk CRETIN

moron...bet your a biker...as you cannot spell the queens english...l.o.l.....

just put the image of me in my car or van...then you going 80 on your bike......then you hittng a wall...whoops...your dead......


As I said CRETIN just do one and fcuk off the only thing dead here is your excuse for a brain !! fact by the way check out your own spelling CRETIN
ixthecouncil says... 12:54pm Wed 4 Apr 12 taffyruffles wrote: fixthecouncil. Do one get alife or just fcuk CRETIN moron...bet your a biker...as you cannot spell the queens english...l.o.l..... just put the image of me in my car or van...then you going 80 on your bike......then you hittng a wall...whoops...your dead...... As I said CRETIN just do one and fcuk off the only thing dead here is your excuse for a brain !! fact by the way check out your own spelling CRETIN taffyruffles

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