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8:30am Wednesday 2nd November 2011 in News By Chris Fay, Reporter (Sedgefield)
A TEACHER and British National Party activist was yesterday banned from the classroom after using school computers to send a vulnerable 16-year-old former pupil a sexually explicit message.
The General Teaching Council found that Mark Walker sent the girl emails while working at Sunnydale Community College, in Shildon, County Durham, in 2007.
A Professional Conduct Committee heard that in one email, he used language understood to mean that he wanted to have sex with the girl.
The committee found that after Mr Walker was suspended from the school, he contacted colleagues about the disciplinary process, resulting in a demonstration taking place outside the school.
During the demonstration, his supporters said he was a good teacher who did not take politics into the classroom.
However, the committee found him guilty of unacceptable professional conduct and banned him from teaching.
“Mr Walker refers to ‘one suspect email’. However, the committee has noted that the language used in several of the emails was highly inappropriate.”
Committee chairman Wayne Jones
Mr Walker, who stood as BNP candidate for Sedgefield, County Durham, in the 2010 General Election, was suspended by the school in March 2007 and dismissed in December 2008.
Committee chairman Wayne Jones said: “We have heard evidence that the pupil concerned was particularly vulnerable as she had psychological problems and that staff had been made aware of this in April 2006.
“Mr Walker admits that he engaged in an email exchange with the pupil concerned and that this exchange was inappropriate.
“Mr Walker refers to ‘one suspect email’. However, the committee has noted that the language used in several of the emails was highly inappropriate.”
Mr Jones said the committee also took into consideration that Mr Walker had told the girl he hoped she was deleting the emails which, he said, confirmed that he knew what he was doing was wrong.
Mr Walker of Rievaulx, Spennymoor, told The Northern Echo that he accepted his behaviour was inappropriate, but felt that he was being persecuted because of his political beliefs.
He said there were cases of teachers behaving worse than him but staying in the profession, and that he never taught the girl or had any physical contact with her.
Mr Walker has 28 days to appeal to the High Court, which he said he was considering.
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Mike Hartman
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10:02pm Wed 2 Nov 11
Mooochas
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10:01am Thu 3 Nov 11
antihypocrisy
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10:42am Thu 3 Nov 11
Adam Walker
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1:35pm Thu 3 Nov 11
antihypocrisy
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1:44pm Thu 3 Nov 11
antihypocrisy
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1:46pm Thu 3 Nov 11
Mooochas
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2:22pm Thu 3 Nov 11
Adam Walker wrote:I think you'll find that the disciplinary inquiry at his tribunal for unfair dismissal revealed a large number of emails indicating a sexual relationship with this 17-year-old former pupil.
I think you will find the email went to a seventeen year old 'former' pupil so no law broken there. Many teachers keep in touch with former pupils. Some even marry them. This is nothing other than a witch hunt by common purpose trained puppets and members of the Labour Party. If we want to start pointing the finger why dont we take a look at the Labour25. It makes for far more interesting reading.
Adam Walker
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5:19pm Thu 3 Nov 11
Mike Hartman
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5:34pm Thu 3 Nov 11
Mooochas
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5:57pm Thu 3 Nov 11
becx09
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6:54pm Thu 3 Nov 11
becx09
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6:54pm Thu 3 Nov 11
Traser1991
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7:09pm Thu 3 Nov 11
antihypocrisy
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9:03pm Thu 3 Nov 11
antihypocrisy
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Pete Molloy
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10:36am Fri 4 Nov 11
antihypocrisy
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10:46am Fri 4 Nov 11
Pete Molloy wrote:Just because the email hasn't been printed doesn't mean to say it didn't exist PM, surely you can grasp that idea. Throughout every process Mr Walker has experienced he has been judged on evidence, not rumour and you personally not seeing it does not diminish its validity in any way! Seems to me any trouble that the BNP members get into is being brushed off a Politicly motivated which is a bit spineless really. Mr Walker you have had fair hearings throughout and you have been found out not vindicated. For goodness sake next you will be taking this higher claiming YOUR human rights have been denied? My thoughts are with this poor girl not Mr Walker.
If Mark's emails had sexually explicit contents in it to a 17 year old former pupil then why not reproduce those emails with the article? It would back up the claim, but no email was has been produced.
Did you notice the size of Mark's photo compaired to say, Raul Moat's when the echo produced it!
Mooochas
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11:00am Fri 4 Nov 11
antihypocrisy
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11:18am Fri 4 Nov 11
Mooochas wrote:I can but try, in the hope a tiny bit of common sense will sink in.
Lol - Pete Molloy is as blindly BNP as Dean M, David Lacey and Jolly Roger are Tory. It's pointless trying to point out the lack of objectivity - they just don't get it ;o)
David Lacey
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12:30pm Fri 4 Nov 11
Mooochas
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1:16pm Fri 4 Nov 11
David Lacey wrote:Lol - "We're not the Judean People's Front; we're the People's Front of Judea!" - ok, so you're a far right conservative; somewhere inbetween Tory and BNP ;o)
What a depressing pair you are. I have never voted Tory and despise Cameron. I vote UKIP and am proud to say so. The BNP are evem more nauseating than Labour, and that is saying something.
Gnasher1
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3:43pm Fri 4 Nov 11
Pete Molloy
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4:15pm Fri 4 Nov 11
antihypocrisy wrote:With not seeing the email I can only go by what Mark has told me what was in it and nothîng was sexually explicit in it according to Mark.
Pete Molloy wrote: If Mark's emails had sexually explicit contents in it to a 17 year old former pupil then why not reproduce those emails with the article? It would back up the claim, but no email was has been produced. Did you notice the size of Mark's photo compaired to say, Raul Moat's when the echo produced it!Just because the email hasn't been printed doesn't mean to say it didn't exist PM, surely you can grasp that idea. Throughout every process Mr Walker has experienced he has been judged on evidence, not rumour and you personally not seeing it does not diminish its validity in any way! Seems to me any trouble that the BNP members get into is being brushed off a Politicly motivated which is a bit spineless really. Mr Walker you have had fair hearings throughout and you have been found out not vindicated. For goodness sake next you will be taking this higher claiming YOUR human rights have been denied? My thoughts are with this poor girl not Mr Walker.
antihypocrisy
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4:23pm Fri 4 Nov 11
Dean M
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5:44pm Fri 4 Nov 11
Mooochas wrote:Although you do keep trying; but you're just never able to support your constant anti-Tory rants and insults with any sensible or reasonable points.
Lol - Pete Molloy is as blindly BNP as Dean M, David Lacey and Jolly Roger are Tory. It's pointless trying to point out the lack of objectivity - they just don't get it ;o)
Dean M
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5:52pm Fri 4 Nov 11
Mooochas
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5:52pm Fri 4 Nov 11
Dean M wrote:Lol! Whatever Dean - if I want to know your opinion I'll grab a copy of the Tory manifesto. Don’t try to put me in the binds of a sycophantic worship of a political party like you – I can think for myself…
Mooochas wrote: Lol - Pete Molloy is as blindly BNP as Dean M, David Lacey and Jolly Roger are Tory. It's pointless trying to point out the lack of objectivity - they just don't get it ;o)Although you do keep trying; but you're just never able to support your constant anti-Tory rants and insults with any sensible or reasonable points. . Sinn Fein was regarded as the political wing of the IRA. The BNP and UKIP are two completely separate, independent political parties. . I can see why those who view politics through red spectacles, such as yourself, try this nonsense on - par for the Labour course to attack everyone who doesn't agree - but a bit of honesty would be welcome in these debates.
antihypocrisy
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6:21pm Fri 4 Nov 11
DWilson
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7:33pm Fri 4 Nov 11
antihypocrisy
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9:22pm Fri 4 Nov 11
Melanie Stephenson
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9:52am Sat 5 Nov 11
Blankface
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10:15am Sat 5 Nov 11
antihypocrisy wrote:You are clearly judging this man on his political beliefs and you bloody well know it.
Any sort of decent person would admit they are wrong but then we aren't talking about any decent sort of person are we?
antihypocrisy
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11:12am Sat 5 Nov 11
Blankface wrote:Oh dear, I suspected this was coming from someone...for this poster and the tiny minority who feel the same, I am commenting on the facts that have been reported above.FACTS FACTS and FACTS. How blind are you to see that its the fact he was a Teacher sending this/these emails FULL STOP, his gender, race,religion or Political bias , for me, never comes into it.
antihypocrisy wrote:You are clearly judging this man on his political beliefs and you bloody well know it.
Any sort of decent person would admit they are wrong but then we aren't talking about any decent sort of person are we?
Dean M
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12:03pm Sat 5 Nov 11
Mooochas wrote:"Now run along and play with the other chickens."
Dean M wrote:Lol! Whatever Dean - if I want to know your opinion I'll grab a copy of the Tory manifesto. Don’t try to put me in the binds of a sycophantic worship of a political party like you – I can think for myself… * Again, you're unable to grasp what’s being said and head off into taking things literally and splitting hairs ;o) …and it’s still not a debate, I’ve nothing that requires your attention, thanks. Now run along and play with the other chickens ;o)Mooochas wrote: Lol - Pete Molloy is as blindly BNP as Dean M, David Lacey and Jolly Roger are Tory. It's pointless trying to point out the lack of objectivity - they just don't get it ;o)Although you do keep trying; but you're just never able to support your constant anti-Tory rants and insults with any sensible or reasonable points. . Sinn Fein was regarded as the political wing of the IRA. The BNP and UKIP are two completely separate, independent political parties. . I can see why those who view politics through red spectacles, such as yourself, try this nonsense on - par for the Labour course to attack everyone who doesn't agree - but a bit of honesty would be welcome in these debates.
Dean M
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12:20pm Sat 5 Nov 11
antihypocrisy wrote:They have no political axe to grind? Are you sure about that? If a trade union is prepared to try and get someone sacked for their politics (which is totally outside their remit as a union) what makes you think these other organisations are always beyond reproach?
"who knows what the truth is"..you just couldn't make it up!! Professional people are usually registered with their own particular Professional bodies that oversee standards of their members. I can think immediately of Doctors and Nurse as an example. Their role is to maintain professionalism and high standards that are expected of their members positions. The standards Committees which rule on their members are NOT kangaroo Courts, they do NOT have any Political axe to grind and anyone who is summoned to explain their behaviour has a right to Legal representation.If, DM, you don't know what the truth is now I'm afraid you never will.
antihypocrisy
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12:46pm Sat 5 Nov 11
antihypocrisy
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12:48pm Sat 5 Nov 11
antihypocrisy
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antihypocrisy
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1:43pm Sat 5 Nov 11
Melanie Stephenson wrote:Thats the funniest thing I have ever read...because she has been "silent", not gone to the national rags (assuming they would be interested of course) and made a fortune then this is proof that there were no emails?? Now then Melanie, why would your beloved Mr Walker ask this vulnerable 16yr old girl to ensure she deleted these emails?
Can I remind people that this happened 5 years ago.
The former pupil in now in her twenties. Strange that she made no allegations and remained silent. She could have made a fortune IF she received 'sexually explicit' emails. Where are these emails? Everything else has been uncovered except the emails.
Prime Minister David Cameron and Education Secretary, Michael Gove have both said BNP teachers WILL NOT BE TOLERATED. How convenient for them!
onlinereader
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3:41pm Sat 5 Nov 11
onlinereader
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3:57pm Sat 5 Nov 11
Mooochas
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5:49pm Sat 5 Nov 11
Dean M wrote:You think I’m not being objective if I criticise Government policy – I think you’re just a sycophantic worshiper of Cameron and all things ‘blue’ – show us something ‘blue’ that you’ve disagreed with.
Mooochas wrote:"Now run along and play with the other chickens." . That's more like your usual standard mooochas; you just can't help the daftness can you sweetheart? . By the way, Kinnock agreed and supported Thatcher all the way in the 80s. If you disagree, you're just 'splitting hairs'. lolly.Dean M wrote:Lol! Whatever Dean - if I want to know your opinion I'll grab a copy of the Tory manifesto. Don’t try to put me in the binds of a sycophantic worship of a political party like you – I can think for myself… * Again, you're unable to grasp what’s being said and head off into taking things literally and splitting hairs ;o) …and it’s still not a debate, I’ve nothing that requires your attention, thanks. Now run along and play with the other chickens ;o)Mooochas wrote: Lol - Pete Molloy is as blindly BNP as Dean M, David Lacey and Jolly Roger are Tory. It's pointless trying to point out the lack of objectivity - they just don't get it ;o)Although you do keep trying; but you're just never able to support your constant anti-Tory rants and insults with any sensible or reasonable points. . Sinn Fein was regarded as the political wing of the IRA. The BNP and UKIP are two completely separate, independent political parties. . I can see why those who view politics through red spectacles, such as yourself, try this nonsense on - par for the Labour course to attack everyone who doesn't agree - but a bit of honesty would be welcome in these debates.
jordanc93
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8:17pm Sun 6 Nov 11
Adam Walker wrote:under the children act of 1989 and 2004 a person is classed as a child until they are 18. He clear breached his position of trust and yes teachers and students keep in contact but they keep it to a proffessional level not a sexual one. He would have also sent the emails knowing full well they were monitired and a copy of all them stored, as this a legal requirment under the data protection act for establishments to keep a full record of all information exchanged within there IT systems. He shouldn't use his political party to cover up the truth. If the school hadn't taken action, Durham Local Education Authority would have done in the end. All staff are made aware of the what the IT resources are used for and what policy are in place upon joining the establishment, as well as being told that all activity is logged.
I think you will find the email went to a seventeen year old 'former' pupil so no law broken there. Many teachers keep in touch with former pupils. Some even marry them. This is nothing other than a witch hunt by common purpose trained puppets and members of the Labour Party. If we want to start pointing the finger why dont we take a look at the Labour25. It makes for far more interesting reading.
funksoul201181
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1:02am Mon 7 Nov 11
BrianBarber86
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10:49am Mon 7 Nov 11
Dean M
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2:01pm Mon 7 Nov 11
Mooochas wrote:Not sure how trying to associate UKIP with the BNP is 'pointing out a Tory or government shortcoming.' Only in your mind.
Dean M wrote:You think I’m not being objective if I criticise Government policy – I think you’re just a sycophantic worshiper of Cameron and all things ‘blue’ – show us something ‘blue’ that you’ve disagreed with. * I point out a Government or Tory short-coming and you think you can justify it by pointing out a similar Labour occurrence. Two wrongs don’t make a right. * Lol - isn’t it amazing how two people can view the same thing yet have a completely different perspective? You think you’re engaging me in entertaining debate. I think you’re boring my tits off ;o)Mooochas wrote:"Now run along and play with the other chickens." . That's more like your usual standard mooochas; you just can't help the daftness can you sweetheart? . By the way, Kinnock agreed and supported Thatcher all the way in the 80s. If you disagree, you're just 'splitting hairs'. lolly.Dean M wrote:Lol! Whatever Dean - if I want to know your opinion I'll grab a copy of the Tory manifesto. Don’t try to put me in the binds of a sycophantic worship of a political party like you – I can think for myself… * Again, you're unable to grasp what’s being said and head off into taking things literally and splitting hairs ;o) …and it’s still not a debate, I’ve nothing that requires your attention, thanks. Now run along and play with the other chickens ;o)Mooochas wrote: Lol - Pete Molloy is as blindly BNP as Dean M, David Lacey and Jolly Roger are Tory. It's pointless trying to point out the lack of objectivity - they just don't get it ;o)Although you do keep trying; but you're just never able to support your constant anti-Tory rants and insults with any sensible or reasonable points. . Sinn Fein was regarded as the political wing of the IRA. The BNP and UKIP are two completely separate, independent political parties. . I can see why those who view politics through red spectacles, such as yourself, try this nonsense on - par for the Labour course to attack everyone who doesn't agree - but a bit of honesty would be welcome in these debates.
antihypocrisy
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3:20pm Mon 7 Nov 11
BrianBarber86 wrote:How many more time does it need saying??? "we" don't need to see the email because its nothing to do with the public. The email was produced to the people who matter and who are charged with the task of judging his Professional competence (or clearly lack of), end of! The case has been put to rest, its the followers of this "man" who blame everyone else BUT him for his situation.
I was a pupil at the named school and to be honest a lot of teachers were accused of a lot of things (not Mark) but also female members and if he did send e-mails can we not see them for the case to be put to rest ??? the answer is no because they wanted him out... but he was probably one of the better teachers in that school by far !
Melanie Stephenson
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5:45pm Mon 7 Nov 11
Dean M
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6:18pm Mon 7 Nov 11
onlinereader wrote:But 17 is nearly 18!
Personally I don't give two hoots what political party Mark Walker belongs too. But as a former teacher I can assure the readers of this email that Mr Walker would know that behaviour of this nature by a teacher who is in a position of trust is not acceptable with any child. He would also know that contact of this nature with any young person, is not acceptable until they have reached adulthood at the age of 18 years. This girl was 17 years and in the eyes of the law, still a minor.
BrianBarber86
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8:00pm Mon 7 Nov 11
antihypocrisy wrote:r u deluded??? if you got arrested and the only person who seen you do it was I dont know... someone you didnt like (for whatever reason),would you like to take the blame even if you did/didnt do it??? and as for the ppl who needed to see it, well they are the very ppl that wanted him out and as for being 1 of his followers... believe me we didnt always c eye to eye if he is guilty then fine but tbh I dont think he is.I think victimisation comes into it thru political beliefs. which u dimwit is also wrong
BrianBarber86 wrote:How many more time does it need saying??? "we" don't need to see the email because its nothing to do with the public. The email was produced to the people who matter and who are charged with the task of judging his Professional competence (or clearly lack of), end of! The case has been put to rest, its the followers of this "man" who blame everyone else BUT him for his situation.
I was a pupil at the named school and to be honest a lot of teachers were accused of a lot of things (not Mark) but also female members and if he did send e-mails can we not see them for the case to be put to rest ??? the answer is no because they wanted him out... but he was probably one of the better teachers in that school by far !
antihypocrisy
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8:41pm Mon 7 Nov 11
BrianBarber86 wrote:Thanks for the insult BB but it matters not what you think as he is BANNED from the classroom for good! Attitudes like yours and other BNP followers give others like you free rein to commit whatever misdeeds you like and give the excuse "we're victimised for our beliefs", get over yourselves!
antihypocrisy wrote:r u deluded??? if you got arrested and the only person who seen you do it was I dont know... someone you didnt like (for whatever reason),would you like to take the blame even if you did/didnt do it??? and as for the ppl who needed to see it, well they are the very ppl that wanted him out and as for being 1 of his followers... believe me we didnt always c eye to eye if he is guilty then fine but tbh I dont think he is.I think victimisation comes into it thru political beliefs. which u dimwit is also wrong
BrianBarber86 wrote:How many more time does it need saying??? "we" don't need to see the email because its nothing to do with the public. The email was produced to the people who matter and who are charged with the task of judging his Professional competence (or clearly lack of), end of! The case has been put to rest, its the followers of this "man" who blame everyone else BUT him for his situation.
I was a pupil at the named school and to be honest a lot of teachers were accused of a lot of things (not Mark) but also female members and if he did send e-mails can we not see them for the case to be put to rest ??? the answer is no because they wanted him out... but he was probably one of the better teachers in that school by far !
Melanie Stephenson
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9:11pm Mon 7 Nov 11
CTRILEY
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9:32pm Mon 7 Nov 11
jordanc93
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11:50pm Mon 7 Nov 11
BrianBarber86 wrote:The GTC is independent to the school and the people on the board will have never met mr walker before, so it's hard to believe that they could have wanted rid of someone they had never even met!! In regards to the emails they will most likely never be disclosed, as they are protected by the data protection act and the school can only disclose them by law to legal officials. The emails will all exists as it is a legal requirement for schools to archive all emails sent and received by staff and students using a school email account. In reality the emails are real just, non of will get to see them due to legal reasons.
antihypocrisy wrote:r u deluded??? if you got arrested and the only person who seen you do it was I dont know... someone you didnt like (for whatever reason),would you like to take the blame even if you did/didnt do it??? and as for the ppl who needed to see it, well they are the very ppl that wanted him out and as for being 1 of his followers... believe me we didnt always c eye to eye if he is guilty then fine but tbh I dont think he is.I think victimisation comes into it thru political beliefs. which u dimwit is also wrong
BrianBarber86 wrote:How many more time does it need saying??? "we" don't need to see the email because its nothing to do with the public. The email was produced to the people who matter and who are charged with the task of judging his Professional competence (or clearly lack of), end of! The case has been put to rest, its the followers of this "man" who blame everyone else BUT him for his situation.
I was a pupil at the named school and to be honest a lot of teachers were accused of a lot of things (not Mark) but also female members and if he did send e-mails can we not see them for the case to be put to rest ??? the answer is no because they wanted him out... but he was probably one of the better teachers in that school by far !
funksoul201181
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12:38am Tue 8 Nov 11
CTRILEY wrote:if this is the case it sounds like they used him as an example however just cos others got away with stuff, doesnt mean he shouldnt, it means the others should have. his bnp status probably ment he got a harsher sentence but it doesnt condone what he did. like it says in reports he asked her to delete the messages etc. he knew what he was doing was wrong. other teachers shud be punished similarly if they doing same
Mr Walker "said there were cases of teachers behaving worse than him but staying in the profession". This is true at the school I attended there was a drama teacher who was transferred to my after having a sexual relationship with a pupil. There was a female P.E. teacher who was caught on a number of occassions by pupils having sex with other teachers. A female geography teacher used to date former pupils. A male English teacher transferred to a Darlington school after his interest in child photography was revealed. Whilst the ony teacher to be prosecuted for anything was a male woodwork teacher who was caught stealing money to fund his gambling.
Pete Molloy
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7:55am Tue 8 Nov 11
jordanc93 wrote:The GTC is independent from the school, but it doesn't stop them having a political agenda.
BrianBarber86 wrote:The GTC is independent to the school and the people on the board will have never met mr walker before, so it's hard to believe that they could have wanted rid of someone they had never even met!! In regards to the emails they will most likely never be disclosed, as they are protected by the data protection act and the school can only disclose them by law to legal officials. The emails will all exists as it is a legal requirement for schools to archive all emails sent and received by staff and students using a school email account. In reality the emails are real just, non of will get to see them due to legal reasons.antihypocrisy wrote:r u deluded??? if you got arrested and the only person who seen you do it was I dont know... someone you didnt like (for whatever reason),would you like to take the blame even if you did/didnt do it??? and as for the ppl who needed to see it, well they are the very ppl that wanted him out and as for being 1 of his followers... believe me we didnt always c eye to eye if he is guilty then fine but tbh I dont think he is.I think victimisation comes into it thru political beliefs. which u dimwit is also wrongBrianBarber86 wrote: I was a pupil at the named school and to be honest a lot of teachers were accused of a lot of things (not Mark) but also female members and if he did send e-mails can we not see them for the case to be put to rest ??? the answer is no because they wanted him out... but he was probably one of the better teachers in that school by far !How many more time does it need saying??? "we" don't need to see the email because its nothing to do with the public. The email was produced to the people who matter and who are charged with the task of judging his Professional competence (or clearly lack of), end of! The case has been put to rest, its the followers of this "man" who blame everyone else BUT him for his situation.
Dean M
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9:38am Tue 8 Nov 11
Pete Molloy
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12:52pm Tue 8 Nov 11
Dean M wrote:She well may have done, but with the education establishment so anti-BNP how do we know the emails have not been construde for the GTC's own motives?
But surely this 'Judy Moorhouse' is likely to have still discussed the case with other members of the panel? Both before, and perhaps after, being removed?
Mooochas
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1:30pm Tue 8 Nov 11
Dean M wrote:"Not sure how trying to associate UKIP with the BNP is 'pointing out a Tory or government shortcoming."
Mooochas wrote:Not sure how trying to associate UKIP with the BNP is 'pointing out a Tory or government shortcoming.' Only in your mind.
Dean M wrote:You think I’m not being objective if I criticise Government policy – I think you’re just a sycophantic worshiper of Cameron and all things ‘blue’ – show us something ‘blue’ that you’ve disagreed with. * I point out a Government or Tory short-coming and you think you can justify it by pointing out a similar Labour occurrence. Two wrongs don’t make a right. * Lol - isn’t it amazing how two people can view the same thing yet have a completely different perspective? You think you’re engaging me in entertaining debate. I think you’re boring my tits off ;o)Mooochas wrote:"Now run along and play with the other chickens." . That's more like your usual standard mooochas; you just can't help the daftness can you sweetheart? . By the way, Kinnock agreed and supported Thatcher all the way in the 80s. If you disagree, you're just 'splitting hairs'. lolly.Dean M wrote:Lol! Whatever Dean - if I want to know your opinion I'll grab a copy of the Tory manifesto. Don’t try to put me in the binds of a sycophantic worship of a political party like you – I can think for myself… * Again, you're unable to grasp what’s being said and head off into taking things literally and splitting hairs ;o) …and it’s still not a debate, I’ve nothing that requires your attention, thanks. Now run along and play with the other chickens ;o)Mooochas wrote: Lol - Pete Molloy is as blindly BNP as Dean M, David Lacey and Jolly Roger are Tory. It's pointless trying to point out the lack of objectivity - they just don't get it ;o)Although you do keep trying; but you're just never able to support your constant anti-Tory rants and insults with any sensible or reasonable points. . Sinn Fein was regarded as the political wing of the IRA. The BNP and UKIP are two completely separate, independent political parties. . I can see why those who view politics through red spectacles, such as yourself, try this nonsense on - par for the Labour course to attack everyone who doesn't agree - but a bit of honesty would be welcome in these debates.
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You're wrong to tell me what I think. And I don't care what you think.
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I wonder what your response will be? Anyone would think this was a debate. Or a forum.
Mooochas
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1:45pm Tue 8 Nov 11
Mooochas
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2:13pm Tue 8 Nov 11
onlinereader wrote:Following this link it would seem the only thing he's received that many others haven't is media coverage, which may further damage his BNP-stained image.
http://www.gtce.org.
uk/regulation/discip
linary_orders/
Visit there at the end of the month and you'll all be able to see exactly why he has been banned from teaching.
antihypocrisy
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2:53pm Tue 8 Nov 11
Dean M
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5:14pm Tue 8 Nov 11
Mooochas wrote:Welcome back to the 'debate' - I knew you'd just have to reply. So you're one of those few that aren't buying it then?
Ahhh, the age-old tale of boy-meets-girl and the complications which ensue. Wait. I mean man meets girl. No. Teacher meets pupil. Hold on, I mean almost 40yr old meets almost adult. * There's an unusual amount of pro-BNP visitors to this local rag’s story and whilst they may have convinced a few weak-minded dullards, I'm still not buying it.
Pete Winstanley
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5:22pm Tue 8 Nov 11
Mooochas
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6:18pm Tue 8 Nov 11
Dean M wrote:FFS, can everyone STOP using emoticons and LOLs all the time – I just can’t stand it (and they’re definitely not in the rules that I made up ;o)
Mooochas wrote:Welcome back to the 'debate' - I knew you'd just have to reply. So you're one of those few that aren't buying it then?
Ahhh, the age-old tale of boy-meets-girl and the complications which ensue. Wait. I mean man meets girl. No. Teacher meets pupil. Hold on, I mean almost 40yr old meets almost adult. * There's an unusual amount of pro-BNP visitors to this local rag’s story and whilst they may have convinced a few weak-minded dullards, I'm still not buying it.
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;o) lolly ;o)
antihypocrisy
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10:00pm Tue 8 Nov 11
Dean M
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10:35pm Tue 8 Nov 11
antihypocrisy wrote:Oh dear, oh dear. Talks about childish games and then says 'get yourself out for a change and try and find a friend' and 'It must be awfully lonely in your little bedsit'. How childish.
Almost an interesting debate, just the usual childish games by troll...get yourself out for a change and try and find a friend why don't you instead of deliberately trying to mar the debate with childish games It must be awfully lonely in your little bedsit. Peter Winstanly has, for me, summed it up exactly and, as my last comment, I would like to express my sympathy to this creeps wife and family.
jordanc93
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2:50am Wed 9 Nov 11
Pete Winstanley wrote:You seem to have forgot to mention the fact that the school had asked mark to show evidence that he was ill in the form of a sick note and he refused to. So no wonder they sacked him!. They do legal have every right to ask for evidence of sickness when you are off for a long period of time and he simply refused to give them it. So it's his own fault he got the sack in the end.
I wonder if we can knock this on the head once and for all?
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Mark Walker was not sacked because of the emails, nor because he was a member of the BNP, but because of his sickness record. Following the NSPCC investigation, he was invited to a number of hearings to put his side of the story, but did not attend because he was ill – depressed or stressed. Eventually, having followed all the correct procedures, the school dismissed him because he had been off sick for too long.
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He then took his case to an Employment Tribunal. The presiding judge, Andrew Buchanan, said his illness was triggered by his own actions – “If he had not acted in the way that he did towards that former pupil, he would not have had reason to be stressed and anxious and he would not have become ill.” He said Mark’s “culpable and blameworthy conduct contributed to his dismissal to the extent of 100 per cent” and that “he was the author of his own unfortunate illness”.
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The GTC has now agreed with the NSPCC and the tribunal judge that the emails were “highly inappropriate,” and that “there is sufficient evidence from the emails and from previous matters concerning his professional conduct to conclude that Mr Walker’s behaviour has resulted in his conduct being less than one would expect of a teacher placed in a position of trust.”
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No-one, so far, has revealed the content of those emails except Mark’s erstwhile ally, Kevin Scott, former North East Organiser for the BNP, who now runs a website which he has ironically titled “Civil Liberty.” Great sense of humour for a fascist! This is what he wrote on the website:
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“Patrick Harrington and Civil Liberty director, Kevin Scott, agreed that Mark Walker should have his day in court in order to clear his name. As a result, Civil Liberty agreed to partially fund Mark Walker's case after he was dismissed from his teaching job for his sickness record in December 2008.
At the subsequent Employment Tribunal in Newcastle, the sexually explicit emails were read to the court and despite Pat Harrington's best efforts to expose the duplicity and connivance of the school authorities, trade unions and local council in Mark Walker's persecution, the case was lost. At the end of one of the emails, Mark Walker, a married man with a young daughter who appears on BNP publicity material as a contented family man, had written: "I love to f u c k!"
Later, Kevin Scott was asked by Patrick Harrington to give evidence on behalf of Mark Walker at a GTC hearing which would determine his future as a teacher. Kevin Scott declined.
Civil Liberty stands by its campaign to protect Mark Walker's right to free association and free speech, but withdrew its support once the Employment Tribunal was lost earlier this year.”
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I have always argued that Mark was innocent until proven guilty. He has now been comprehensively proven guilty. I have also argued that we do not need this sort of scandal to expose the BNP for what it is – a racist, neo-Nazi organisation.
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BNP supporters who try to defend Mark are doing him no favours. The suggestion that the school, the NSPCC, the GTC and the Employment Tribunal judge are all part of a politically- motivated “witch-hunt” is frankly ludicrous.
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I personally find Mark’s conduct revolting and creepy, and I am glad he can no longer teach. But, as he has always said, he has not broken the law. Should he not now be left to fade quietly into obscurity, and pick up the pieces of his life?
jordanc93
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2:50am Wed 9 Nov 11
Pete Winstanley wrote:You seem to have forgot to mention the fact that the school had asked mark to show evidence that he was ill in the form of a sick note and he refused to. So no wonder they sacked him!. They do legal have every right to ask for evidence of sickness when you are off for a long period of time and he simply refused to give them it. So it's his own fault he got the sack in the end.
I wonder if we can knock this on the head once and for all?
.
Mark Walker was not sacked because of the emails, nor because he was a member of the BNP, but because of his sickness record. Following the NSPCC investigation, he was invited to a number of hearings to put his side of the story, but did not attend because he was ill – depressed or stressed. Eventually, having followed all the correct procedures, the school dismissed him because he had been off sick for too long.
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He then took his case to an Employment Tribunal. The presiding judge, Andrew Buchanan, said his illness was triggered by his own actions – “If he had not acted in the way that he did towards that former pupil, he would not have had reason to be stressed and anxious and he would not have become ill.” He said Mark’s “culpable and blameworthy conduct contributed to his dismissal to the extent of 100 per cent” and that “he was the author of his own unfortunate illness”.
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The GTC has now agreed with the NSPCC and the tribunal judge that the emails were “highly inappropriate,” and that “there is sufficient evidence from the emails and from previous matters concerning his professional conduct to conclude that Mr Walker’s behaviour has resulted in his conduct being less than one would expect of a teacher placed in a position of trust.”
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No-one, so far, has revealed the content of those emails except Mark’s erstwhile ally, Kevin Scott, former North East Organiser for the BNP, who now runs a website which he has ironically titled “Civil Liberty.” Great sense of humour for a fascist! This is what he wrote on the website:
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“Patrick Harrington and Civil Liberty director, Kevin Scott, agreed that Mark Walker should have his day in court in order to clear his name. As a result, Civil Liberty agreed to partially fund Mark Walker's case after he was dismissed from his teaching job for his sickness record in December 2008.
At the subsequent Employment Tribunal in Newcastle, the sexually explicit emails were read to the court and despite Pat Harrington's best efforts to expose the duplicity and connivance of the school authorities, trade unions and local council in Mark Walker's persecution, the case was lost. At the end of one of the emails, Mark Walker, a married man with a young daughter who appears on BNP publicity material as a contented family man, had written: "I love to f u c k!"
Later, Kevin Scott was asked by Patrick Harrington to give evidence on behalf of Mark Walker at a GTC hearing which would determine his future as a teacher. Kevin Scott declined.
Civil Liberty stands by its campaign to protect Mark Walker's right to free association and free speech, but withdrew its support once the Employment Tribunal was lost earlier this year.”
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I have always argued that Mark was innocent until proven guilty. He has now been comprehensively proven guilty. I have also argued that we do not need this sort of scandal to expose the BNP for what it is – a racist, neo-Nazi organisation.
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BNP supporters who try to defend Mark are doing him no favours. The suggestion that the school, the NSPCC, the GTC and the Employment Tribunal judge are all part of a politically- motivated “witch-hunt” is frankly ludicrous.
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I personally find Mark’s conduct revolting and creepy, and I am glad he can no longer teach. But, as he has always said, he has not broken the law. Should he not now be left to fade quietly into obscurity, and pick up the pieces of his life?
house fly
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11:41am Wed 9 Nov 11
Mooochas
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11:43am Wed 9 Nov 11
Dean M wrote:Lol - Dean M - "So you're one of those few that aren't buying it then?"
antihypocrisy wrote:Oh dear, oh dear. Talks about childish games and then says 'get yourself out for a change and try and find a friend' and 'It must be awfully lonely in your little bedsit'. How childish.
Almost an interesting debate, just the usual childish games by troll...get yourself out for a change and try and find a friend why don't you instead of deliberately trying to mar the debate with childish games It must be awfully lonely in your little bedsit. Peter Winstanly has, for me, summed it up exactly and, as my last comment, I would like to express my sympathy to this creeps wife and family.
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By the way, listen to your new girlfriend, this is not a 'debate' (or a forum) it's a comments section. Abuse may be on its way to you very soon.
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Mooochas. No...stop. Listen to Pete W, it's time to stop stalking and knock this one on the head.
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Go on then, reply. The same reply. Several times over. It's funny.
Mooochas
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11:55am Wed 9 Nov 11
Pete Molloy wrote:Lol - a brace of morons ;o)
Dean M wrote:She well may have done, but with the education establishment so anti-BNP how do we know the emails have not been construde for the GTC's own motives?
But surely this 'Judy Moorhouse' is likely to have still discussed the case with other members of the panel? Both before, and perhaps after, being removed?
Dean M
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12:15pm Wed 9 Nov 11
Mooochas wrote:Yep, as expected, the same old 'you're an idiot' moronic chant. Funny.
Dean M wrote:Lol - Dean M - "So you're one of those few that aren't buying it then?" * 'those few' - you're such an idiot. You’re so arrogant that you assume everyone else is as gullible as you having fallen for the pathetic BNP mitigation. * No, I'd venture that 'most of us' are still not buying it - not since the start. Why don't you try and pretend that you weren't a complete mug in the first place - your usual denial nonsense ;o)antihypocrisy wrote: Almost an interesting debate, just the usual childish games by troll...get yourself out for a change and try and find a friend why don't you instead of deliberately trying to mar the debate with childish games It must be awfully lonely in your little bedsit. Peter Winstanly has, for me, summed it up exactly and, as my last comment, I would like to express my sympathy to this creeps wife and family.Oh dear, oh dear. Talks about childish games and then says 'get yourself out for a change and try and find a friend' and 'It must be awfully lonely in your little bedsit'. How childish. . By the way, listen to your new girlfriend, this is not a 'debate' (or a forum) it's a comments section. Abuse may be on its way to you very soon. . Mooochas. No...stop. Listen to Pete W, it's time to stop stalking and knock this one on the head. . Go on then, reply. The same reply. Several times over. It's funny.
Mooochas
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12:26pm Wed 9 Nov 11
Dean M wrote:Lol - more denial. More hair-splitting. The additional quoted drivel was added on purpose, you idiot ;o)
Mooochas wrote:Yep, as expected, the same old 'you're an idiot' moronic chant. Funny.
Dean M wrote:Lol - Dean M - "So you're one of those few that aren't buying it then?" * 'those few' - you're such an idiot. You’re so arrogant that you assume everyone else is as gullible as you having fallen for the pathetic BNP mitigation. * No, I'd venture that 'most of us' are still not buying it - not since the start. Why don't you try and pretend that you weren't a complete mug in the first place - your usual denial nonsense ;o)antihypocrisy wrote: Almost an interesting debate, just the usual childish games by troll...get yourself out for a change and try and find a friend why don't you instead of deliberately trying to mar the debate with childish games It must be awfully lonely in your little bedsit. Peter Winstanly has, for me, summed it up exactly and, as my last comment, I would like to express my sympathy to this creeps wife and family.Oh dear, oh dear. Talks about childish games and then says 'get yourself out for a change and try and find a friend' and 'It must be awfully lonely in your little bedsit'. How childish. . By the way, listen to your new girlfriend, this is not a 'debate' (or a forum) it's a comments section. Abuse may be on its way to you very soon. . Mooochas. No...stop. Listen to Pete W, it's time to stop stalking and knock this one on the head. . Go on then, reply. The same reply. Several times over. It's funny.
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You click 'quote' and then refer to a sentence that isn't there. Clever.
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I see my 'You're one of those few...' comment went right over your head, sweetheart. And you start waffling on about 'most of us' blah, blah.
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Really, mooochas, you should read things properly, and you must try harder.
Mooochas
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1:47pm Wed 9 Nov 11
Dean M
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6:32pm Wed 9 Nov 11
Pete Winstanley
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7:58pm Wed 9 Nov 11
Drit Drit
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8:36pm Wed 9 Nov 11
house fly
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11:07pm Thu 10 Nov 11
house fly
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11:10pm Thu 10 Nov 11
Mooochas
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2:31pm Mon 14 Nov 11
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Mel Wilson says...
11:24am Wed 2 Nov 11
You filthy pig, should be ashamed