Tories could win Sedgefield under region's new electoral map

The Northern Echo: Tories could win Sedgefield under region's new electoral map Tories could win Sedgefield under region's new electoral map

THE Conservatives are today handed the tantalising prospect of snatching Tony Blair's old seat of Sedgefield, as part a dramatic rewriting of Britain's electoral map.

An election expert predicted the new-look Sedgefield and Yarm seat - taking in chunks of the current Stockton South seat, including Eaglescliffe and Ingleby, as well as Yarm - could by claimed by the Tories at the next election.

Click here to view a map showing the proposed new constituencies

Meanwhile, the redrawn Darlington and Middlesbrough South and Guisborough seats were also predicted to be winnable for the Conservatives, in what promised to be a revival in the south of the region.

The verdict will spark fresh controversy over the changes, which will cull 50 UK seats by 2015 - to end what the Conservatives believe is a strong Labour bias in the current set-up.

Last night, one Labour MP said the trend would be echoed across Britain, creating more marginal seats where the party would need to win over non-Labour voters in order to seize back power.

Jenny Chapman - while insisting her own Darlington seat would remain Labour - said: "We will need to appeal to white van man and people who want to set up a free school, for example.

"We will need to be less focused on our core vote and more on the centre-ground of politics. This could result in a very different Labour party."

The threat to Labour was emphasised by Lewis Baston, of the research group Democratic Audit, who said: "There could be Conservative MP for Sedgefield at the next election - which I'm sure the party would like very much.

"And when you look at the proposed changes to the Darlington seat, it is realistic for them to hope to take both seats, if they do well at the next election."

In the North-East, three of the 29 seats will disappear, one in the south of the region and two in Tyne and Wear, where Blaydon and North Tyneside will go. No constituency will be untouched.

North Yorkshire retains eight constituencies, but they are redrawn so that chunks of Foreign Secretary William Hague's Richmond seat go into a new Malton constituency - with other parts of the current Thirsk and Malton seat gained.

All the region's new constituencies will have between 72,810 and 80,473 voters, requiring them to cross council and natural boundaries to achieve near-equal size.

The Boundary Commission said the current Darlington seat was large enough to survive the shake-up, but the other changes made it necessary to bring in two Tory-inclined wards, from Sedgefield.

Ms Chapman said the inclusion of the Heighington and Coniscliffe and Hurworth wards made sense because of school catchment areas, adding: "I'm happy with it."

As well as four solely County Durham seats, a further one - the proposed Consett and Barnard Castle constituency - would take in two wards in Northumberland.

A significantly altered Bishop Auckland constituency includes the towns of Crook and Spennymoor, while North Durham is renamed Chester-le-Street, to include the Burnopfield and Dipton ward from the existing North West Durham constituency.

The new Durham constituency includes Ferryhill and Trimdon wards, but no longer extends west of Brandon. Easington is largely unchanged, but with the inclusion of Thornley and Wingate wards, from Sedgefield.

A new Stockton and Billingham seat allows almost all of the town of Stockton-on-Tees to be included in a single constituency. Thornaby-on-Tees is included in the proposed Middlesbrough constituency.

Middlesbrough South and East Cleveland would be renamed Middlesbrough South and Guisborough, to include Normanby,Ormesby, and St Germain's wards.

Last night, James Wharton, the Conservative MP for Stockton South, declined to reveal his own future plans, but said: "These are substantial changes to the map. There are lots of marginal seats.

"But the important aspect is the principle that we should have fewer seats in constituencies of equal size."

But Ed Miliband, the Labour leader, accused the Conservatives of "gerrymandering" the electoral system, although the party said it would "engage constructively" with the commission's consultation process.

The shake-up has already triggered furious protests from many Labour MPs, who have warned that tens of thousands of unregistered "ghost" voters are not being counted.

But it must first be voted through parliament in 2013, in what is likely to be another Coalition flashpoint, dividing the Conservatives and the Liberal Democrats.

What do you think of the changes? Do Barnard Castle, Consett and Haltwhistle fit together? What about Sedgefield and Yarm? We want to hear from you - have your say below.

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4:25am Tue 13 Sep 11

viccarlton says...

More doctoring of constituencies by the Tories, but in this instance I might actually accept their change for us here in Thornley, we had the ludicrous position of being in Easington District with a Sedgefield M.P. which in my opinion left us in a sort of limbo, back in Easington , that'll do for me.
More doctoring of constituencies by the Tories, but in this instance I might actually accept their change for us here in Thornley, we had the ludicrous position of being in Easington District with a Sedgefield M.P. which in my opinion left us in a sort of limbo, back in Easington , that'll do for me. viccarlton

10:17am Tue 13 Sep 11

melwilson says...

Absolutely preposterous. Was bad enough being part of Sedgefield for me even though I live in Darlington Borough - now I'm part of YARM too??!! For the live of god LEAVE IT ALONE!
Oh & the Tories can dream on ....
Absolutely preposterous. Was bad enough being part of Sedgefield for me even though I live in Darlington Borough - now I'm part of YARM too??!! For the live of god LEAVE IT ALONE! Oh & the Tories can dream on .... melwilson

10:19am Tue 13 Sep 11

MSG says...

Does anyone know if Middleton St George, Hurworth & Sadberge ended up in Darlington, or stayed in the new Sedgefield ward ?
Does anyone know if Middleton St George, Hurworth & Sadberge ended up in Darlington, or stayed in the new Sedgefield ward ? MSG

10:40am Tue 13 Sep 11

Jolly Roger says...

I don't care where I am as I know where I live and the so called MP's could NOT care less about who voted them in once there are in parliament in London.

But I rather be grouped with Yarm than the Trimdons, Spennymoor any day.
I don't care where I am as I know where I live and the so called MP's could NOT care less about who voted them in once there are in parliament in London. But I rather be grouped with Yarm than the Trimdons, Spennymoor any day. Jolly Roger

10:49am Tue 13 Sep 11

melwilson says...

MSG wrote:
Does anyone know if Middleton St George, Hurworth & Sadberge ended up in Darlington, or stayed in the new Sedgefield ward ?
MSG & Hurworth move to Darlo but Sadberge & Whessoe stay with Sedgefield & Yarm
[quote][p][bold]MSG[/bold] wrote: Does anyone know if Middleton St George, Hurworth & Sadberge ended up in Darlington, or stayed in the new Sedgefield ward ?[/p][/quote]MSG & Hurworth move to Darlo but Sadberge & Whessoe stay with Sedgefield & Yarm melwilson

11:14am Tue 13 Sep 11

viccarlton says...

Jolly Roger wrote:
I don't care where I am as I know where I live and the so called MP's could NOT care less about who voted them in once there are in parliament in London. But I rather be grouped with Yarm than the Trimdons, Spennymoor any day.
So it's plain to see that you'll be happy when Dodgy Dave and his cronies come canvassing.
[quote][p][bold]Jolly Roger[/bold] wrote: I don't care where I am as I know where I live and the so called MP's could NOT care less about who voted them in once there are in parliament in London. But I rather be grouped with Yarm than the Trimdons, Spennymoor any day.[/p][/quote]So it's plain to see that you'll be happy when Dodgy Dave and his cronies come canvassing. viccarlton

11:25am Tue 13 Sep 11

Jolly Roger says...

They are not allowed in my area as that would be cold calling.
They are not allowed in my area as that would be cold calling. Jolly Roger

11:30am Tue 13 Sep 11

Mr A says...

I have voted conservative all my life.
Now we have this fiasco coalition government you can have my vote whoever is in the Labour seat at the time
I have voted conservative all my life. Now we have this fiasco coalition government you can have my vote whoever is in the Labour seat at the time Mr A

12:42pm Tue 13 Sep 11

whitbyguy says...

Absolutely ridiculous is my reaction, the town of Yarm is traditionaly a North Riding market town, whereas Sedgefield is a town of County Durham, the two towns have absolutely no connection what so ever - its a fix.
Absolutely ridiculous is my reaction, the town of Yarm is traditionaly a North Riding market town, whereas Sedgefield is a town of County Durham, the two towns have absolutely no connection what so ever - its a fix. whitbyguy

3:35pm Tue 13 Sep 11

Jaga says...

So Jenny Chapman wants to appeal to people who want to set up a free school. That’s her in trouble with Andy Burnham and Ed Millipede amonst others. Surely not grasping at straws already?

Sooner dodgy Dave than the deficit deniers, who roll over as soon as Brendan Barber and/or his trolls pipe up. Ask yourselves what Labour has done for the region. Just look at how many manufacturing jobs vanished during the last Labour administration. Like them or loath them, the Tories brough Nissan the the region.
So Jenny Chapman wants to appeal to people who want to set up a free school. That’s her in trouble with Andy Burnham and Ed Millipede amonst others. Surely not grasping at straws already? Sooner dodgy Dave than the deficit deniers, who roll over as soon as Brendan Barber and/or his trolls pipe up. Ask yourselves what Labour has done for the region. Just look at how many manufacturing jobs vanished during the last Labour administration. Like them or loath them, the Tories brough Nissan the the region. Jaga

3:56pm Tue 13 Sep 11

viccarlton says...

Jaga wrote:
So Jenny Chapman wants to appeal to people who want to set up a free school. That’s her in trouble with Andy Burnham and Ed Millipede amonst others. Surely not grasping at straws already?

Sooner dodgy Dave than the deficit deniers, who roll over as soon as Brendan Barber and/or his trolls pipe up. Ask yourselves what Labour has done for the region. Just look at how many manufacturing jobs vanished during the last Labour administration. Like them or loath them, the Tories brough Nissan the the region.
Indeed the Tories did bring Nissan to the region thanks to a massive subsidy to the Japanese country, did they not also put the final nail in the coffin of heavy industry in this region?
[quote][p][bold]Jaga[/bold] wrote: So Jenny Chapman wants to appeal to people who want to set up a free school. That’s her in trouble with Andy Burnham and Ed Millipede amonst others. Surely not grasping at straws already? Sooner dodgy Dave than the deficit deniers, who roll over as soon as Brendan Barber and/or his trolls pipe up. Ask yourselves what Labour has done for the region. Just look at how many manufacturing jobs vanished during the last Labour administration. Like them or loath them, the Tories brough Nissan the the region.[/p][/quote]Indeed the Tories did bring Nissan to the region thanks to a massive subsidy to the Japanese country, did they not also put the final nail in the coffin of heavy industry in this region? viccarlton

4:05pm Tue 13 Sep 11

Jaga says...

viccarlton wrote:
Jaga wrote:
So Jenny Chapman wants to appeal to people who want to set up a free school. That’s her in trouble with Andy Burnham and Ed Millipede amonst others. Surely not grasping at straws already?

Sooner dodgy Dave than the deficit deniers, who roll over as soon as Brendan Barber and/or his trolls pipe up. Ask yourselves what Labour has done for the region. Just look at how many manufacturing jobs vanished during the last Labour administration. Like them or loath them, the Tories brough Nissan the the region.
Indeed the Tories did bring Nissan to the region thanks to a massive subsidy to the Japanese country, did they not also put the final nail in the coffin of heavy industry in this region?
Heavy industry was dying anyway. Poor management by the bosses and restrictive practices by the unions, particularly in ship building.
[quote][p][bold]viccarlton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jaga[/bold] wrote: So Jenny Chapman wants to appeal to people who want to set up a free school. That’s her in trouble with Andy Burnham and Ed Millipede amonst others. Surely not grasping at straws already? Sooner dodgy Dave than the deficit deniers, who roll over as soon as Brendan Barber and/or his trolls pipe up. Ask yourselves what Labour has done for the region. Just look at how many manufacturing jobs vanished during the last Labour administration. Like them or loath them, the Tories brough Nissan the the region.[/p][/quote]Indeed the Tories did bring Nissan to the region thanks to a massive subsidy to the Japanese country, did they not also put the final nail in the coffin of heavy industry in this region?[/p][/quote]Heavy industry was dying anyway. Poor management by the bosses and restrictive practices by the unions, particularly in ship building. Jaga

4:40pm Tue 13 Sep 11

MSG says...

Nigel Farage UKIP calls Belgium a "non-country as there is little that unifies it. I now know what he means with the new Sedgefield constituency. Yarm a North Riding town, Sedgefield former pit villagers, and Darlingtons villages of Middleton, Sadberge & Bishopton, all thrown together in a political soup. All with different outlooks and ties to other towns such as Yarm/Teesside, Sedgefield/ City of Durham and MSG/Darlington. It will all end in tears!.
Nigel Farage UKIP calls Belgium a "non-country as there is little that unifies it. I now know what he means with the new Sedgefield constituency. Yarm a North Riding town, Sedgefield former pit villagers, and Darlingtons villages of Middleton, Sadberge & Bishopton, all thrown together in a political soup. All with different outlooks and ties to other towns such as Yarm/Teesside, Sedgefield/ City of Durham and MSG/Darlington. It will all end in tears!. MSG

5:43pm Tue 13 Sep 11

Jolly Roger says...

Who cares all MP's whatever party they are coild not care two hoots about you or me once there are sitting comfortable in the House of Parliament.

Labour shut all the post offices when the country wanted the saved Did Mr Wilson vote what us in Sedgefield district wanted him to do , Not on your nelly he voted to shut them.

So what difference lossing a few seats and joinomg a differant area going to make, they will vote how the want and bugger us Just like now.
Who cares all MP's whatever party they are coild not care two hoots about you or me once there are sitting comfortable in the House of Parliament. Labour shut all the post offices when the country wanted the saved Did Mr Wilson vote what us in Sedgefield district wanted him to do , Not on your nelly he voted to shut them. So what difference lossing a few seats and joinomg a differant area going to make, they will vote how the want and bugger us Just like now. Jolly Roger

5:53pm Tue 13 Sep 11

Dean M says...

I think I'll invest in a new blue pair of Hunter wellies and get out in Barnard Castle, Consett and Haltwhistle to do some canvassing..
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Vote for me chaps, and we'll be fox hunting again within months .... afterwards we'll have a cheap pint and a cigarette inside a country pub...then off to Frankland Prison to witness the execution of a child killer.
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Actually, it sounds good. Bring on the new constituencies!
I think I'll invest in a new blue pair of Hunter wellies and get out in Barnard Castle, Consett and Haltwhistle to do some canvassing.. . Vote for me chaps, and we'll be fox hunting again within months .... afterwards we'll have a cheap pint and a cigarette inside a country pub...then off to Frankland Prison to witness the execution of a child killer. . Actually, it sounds good. Bring on the new constituencies! Dean M

5:57pm Tue 13 Sep 11

viccarlton says...

I actually agree with Jolly Roger on his opinion regarding the attitude of M.P's towards their constituents, but I'm sorry the Tories are manipulating the electorate to their own ends, and personally I wouldn't trust them with a load of bricks.
I actually agree with Jolly Roger on his opinion regarding the attitude of M.P's towards their constituents, but I'm sorry the Tories are manipulating the electorate to their own ends, and personally I wouldn't trust them with a load of bricks. viccarlton

6:05pm Tue 13 Sep 11

spragger says...

Less MP's is good news for everyone.
Lets hope this makes Labour work a bit harder for the monkey vote.
Im not sure it will impact the Scarlet Pimpernel
Less MP's is good news for everyone. Lets hope this makes Labour work a bit harder for the monkey vote. Im not sure it will impact the Scarlet Pimpernel spragger

6:53pm Tue 13 Sep 11

Griffinboy says...

This page is full of idiot Tories, wait till you cant pay for your electricity because the Tories palls want every penny out of your pockets so they can have their lives of luxury. Grow up you fools
This page is full of idiot Tories, wait till you cant pay for your electricity because the Tories palls want every penny out of your pockets so they can have their lives of luxury. Grow up you fools Griffinboy

6:59pm Tue 13 Sep 11

viccarlton says...

Griffinboy wrote:
This page is full of idiot Tories, wait till you cant pay for your electricity because the Tories palls want every penny out of your pockets so they can have their lives of luxury. Grow up you fools
I sincerely hope you are not including me in that illustrious group? There is more chance of me winning the lottery than there is of me ever voting Tory, regardless of how bad their rivals are.
[quote][p][bold]Griffinboy[/bold] wrote: This page is full of idiot Tories, wait till you cant pay for your electricity because the Tories palls want every penny out of your pockets so they can have their lives of luxury. Grow up you fools[/p][/quote]I sincerely hope you are not including me in that illustrious group? There is more chance of me winning the lottery than there is of me ever voting Tory, regardless of how bad their rivals are. viccarlton

7:10pm Tue 13 Sep 11

ozcat says...

Talk about zero to hero.....
remember the 2009 sedgefield election???
Tory Shirley Bowes made an unwelcome piece in political history by failing to attract a single vote - not even her own.
Talk about zero to hero..... remember the 2009 sedgefield election??? Tory Shirley Bowes made an unwelcome piece in political history by failing to attract a single vote - not even her own. ozcat

8:24pm Tue 13 Sep 11

Dean M says...

Griffinboy wrote:
This page is full of idiot Tories, wait till you cant pay for your electricity because the Tories palls want every penny out of your pockets so they can have their lives of luxury. Grow up you fools
Yes, after 13 years of Labour regulating the prices of the utility companies, the Tories repealed all that (a few weeks ago was it?) and now these companies can charge us what they want.
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Review what you're saying before you post it - you may just realise it makes no sense and it may save you looking like a fool again.
[quote][p][bold]Griffinboy[/bold] wrote: This page is full of idiot Tories, wait till you cant pay for your electricity because the Tories palls want every penny out of your pockets so they can have their lives of luxury. Grow up you fools[/p][/quote]Yes, after 13 years of Labour regulating the prices of the utility companies, the Tories repealed all that (a few weeks ago was it?) and now these companies can charge us what they want. . Review what you're saying before you post it - you may just realise it makes no sense and it may save you looking like a fool again. Dean M

8:40pm Tue 13 Sep 11

vince.crosby says...

I shudder to even think about a tory taking over or even representing me in parliament. I once lived in a constituency who did not represent his people and spent more time with his banker friends and other money people so much so that people thought him to be an utter waste of time that in 1997 what was classed as a safe Tory seat went over to Labour.
I shudder to even think about a tory taking over or even representing me in parliament. I once lived in a constituency who did not represent his people and spent more time with his banker friends and other money people so much so that people thought him to be an utter waste of time that in 1997 what was classed as a safe Tory seat went over to Labour. vince.crosby

10:31pm Tue 13 Sep 11

Jen204 says...

At least all you lot will have a chance to see your MPs. I live in the proposed Consett, Barnard Castle and Haltwhistle constituency. The Consett MP at the moment lives in Lanchester. When she visits her constituency, where will she go? Will she ever see her family, let alone most of her constituents? It looks like the Electoral Commission said we'll put so many areas together, and the rest can be lumped in one. Haltwhistle is in rural Northumberland, Hadrian's Wall country.
I went on holiday to Barnard Castle last year!
There should be a limit to the area, not just the number of MPs.
At least all you lot will have a chance to see your MPs. I live in the proposed Consett, Barnard Castle and Haltwhistle constituency. The Consett MP at the moment lives in Lanchester. When she visits her constituency, where will she go? Will she ever see her family, let alone most of her constituents? It looks like the Electoral Commission said we'll put so many areas together, and the rest can be lumped in one. Haltwhistle is in rural Northumberland, Hadrian's Wall country. I went on holiday to Barnard Castle last year! There should be a limit to the area, not just the number of MPs. Jen204

10:58pm Tue 13 Sep 11

Catherine Gilsenan says...

Middleton St George is being put into Sedgefield and Yarm.
MSG was, I feel, mistakenly put in Sedgefield at the last Review. Totally wrong! Now we will be with Ingleby Barwick etc! I have nothing against these other localities, but we should be in Darlington!
Why are Hurworth and Heighington being put in Darlington, while MSG is ostracised?

The ironic thing is that the Public Hearings for Darlington are being held in MSG - at St George's Hotes at the Airport!

Boundary Commission Constitency Changes. Public Hearings 17/18 November 2011 St George Hotel, DTV Airport. Register to speak, come along, or have your say on the website! Spread the word, and exercise your democratic right to cast your vote where and how you want!

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Have your say!

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Middleton St George is being put into Sedgefield and Yarm. MSG was, I feel, mistakenly put in Sedgefield at the last Review. Totally wrong! Now we will be with Ingleby Barwick etc! I have nothing against these other localities, but we should be in Darlington! Why are Hurworth and Heighington being put in Darlington, while MSG is ostracised? The ironic thing is that the Public Hearings for Darlington are being held in MSG - at St George's Hotes at the Airport! Boundary Commission Constitency Changes. Public Hearings 17/18 November 2011 St George Hotel, DTV Airport. Register to speak, come along, or have your say on the website! Spread the word, and exercise your democratic right to cast your vote where and how you want! Public Hearings http://consultation. boundarycommissionfo rengland.independent .gov.uk/public-heari ngs/darlington/ Have your say! http://consultation. boundarycommissionfo rengland.independent .gov.uk/have-your-sa y/ Catherine Gilsenan

11:45am Wed 14 Sep 11

melwilson says...

Catherine Gilsenan wrote:
Middleton St George is being put into Sedgefield and Yarm.
MSG was, I feel, mistakenly put in Sedgefield at the last Review. Totally wrong! Now we will be with Ingleby Barwick etc! I have nothing against these other localities, but we should be in Darlington!
Why are Hurworth and Heighington being put in Darlington, while MSG is ostracised?

The ironic thing is that the Public Hearings for Darlington are being held in MSG - at St George's Hotes at the Airport!

Boundary Commission Constitency Changes. Public Hearings 17/18 November 2011 St George Hotel, DTV Airport. Register to speak, come along, or have your say on the website! Spread the word, and exercise your democratic right to cast your vote where and how you want!

Public Hearings

http://consultation.

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.gov.uk/public-heari

ngs/darlington/

Have your say!

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Yeah, my apologies, I thought they'd moved to Darlo.
I totally agree, like my village, MSG is Darlo borough so we should all be together!
[quote][p][bold]Catherine Gilsenan[/bold] wrote: Middleton St George is being put into Sedgefield and Yarm. MSG was, I feel, mistakenly put in Sedgefield at the last Review. Totally wrong! Now we will be with Ingleby Barwick etc! I have nothing against these other localities, but we should be in Darlington! Why are Hurworth and Heighington being put in Darlington, while MSG is ostracised? The ironic thing is that the Public Hearings for Darlington are being held in MSG - at St George's Hotes at the Airport! Boundary Commission Constitency Changes. Public Hearings 17/18 November 2011 St George Hotel, DTV Airport. Register to speak, come along, or have your say on the website! Spread the word, and exercise your democratic right to cast your vote where and how you want! Public Hearings http://consultation. boundarycommissionfo rengland.independent .gov.uk/public-heari ngs/darlington/ Have your say! http://consultation. boundarycommissionfo rengland.independent .gov.uk/have-your-sa y/[/p][/quote]Yeah, my apologies, I thought they'd moved to Darlo. I totally agree, like my village, MSG is Darlo borough so we should all be together! melwilson

3:15pm Wed 14 Sep 11

David Lacey says...

What a bunch of whingers! The Electoral Commission has been working on this issue for several years in order to reflect the changes in population due to shift and to even out the size of constituencies. How on earth anyone with a brain larger than a pea can drag politics into this proposal is ridiculous. The Electoral Commission is NOT a Tory invention but to read some of the daft statements above you would be forgiven for thinking that it is.
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The new constituency boundaries may not be perfect and some tinkering may take place after consultation, but they are a big improvement on the existing demarcation lines. And don't forget that a reduction in the number of overpaid underworked MPs will save over 7.5% of the budget.
What a bunch of whingers! The Electoral Commission has been working on this issue for several years in order to reflect the changes in population due to shift and to even out the size of constituencies. How on earth anyone with a brain larger than a pea can drag politics into this proposal is ridiculous. The Electoral Commission is NOT a Tory invention but to read some of the daft statements above you would be forgiven for thinking that it is. . The new constituency boundaries may not be perfect and some tinkering may take place after consultation, but they are a big improvement on the existing demarcation lines. And don't forget that a reduction in the number of overpaid underworked MPs will save over 7.5% of the budget. David Lacey

4:24pm Wed 14 Sep 11

Jen204 says...

How is putting 4 constituencies from Durham and 2 from Northumberland together an improvement?
I know it is possible to do things online now. In fact, I usually communicate with Pat Glass, my hardworking MP, online. However, many areas in rural parts of Northumberland and Durham cannot get broadband. Many elderly people in this area do not want to use computers to contact anyone.
From Berwick down to Barnard Castle, there will be three MPs in the rural areas.
That's three MPs to cover over 5000 sq km.
I bet the electoral commission did not consult anyone in the North East.
And it will not save over 7.5% of the budget. How much extra in travel expenses will our MPs need to claim?
How is putting 4 constituencies from Durham and 2 from Northumberland together an improvement? I know it is possible to do things online now. In fact, I usually communicate with Pat Glass, my hardworking MP, online. However, many areas in rural parts of Northumberland and Durham cannot get broadband. Many elderly people in this area do not want to use computers to contact anyone. From Berwick down to Barnard Castle, there will be three MPs in the rural areas. That's three MPs to cover over 5000 sq km. I bet the electoral commission did not consult anyone in the North East. And it will not save over 7.5% of the budget. How much extra in travel expenses will our MPs need to claim? Jen204

4:51pm Wed 14 Sep 11

simpsonm says...

You have to be naive if you think these proposals are not political. Yarm would prefer to either stay as it is or move back into North Yorkshire where our allegiance lies.
You have to be naive if you think these proposals are not political. Yarm would prefer to either stay as it is or move back into North Yorkshire where our allegiance lies. simpsonm

6:56pm Wed 14 Sep 11

spragger says...

vince.crosby wrote:
I shudder to even think about a tory taking over or even representing me in parliament. I once lived in a constituency who did not represent his people and spent more time with his banker friends and other money people so much so that people thought him to be an utter waste of time that in 1997 what was classed as a safe Tory seat went over to Labour.
Cancelled out by the Scarlet Pimpernel, Stuart Bell the Boro's answer to a sleeper cell
[quote][p][bold]vince.crosby[/bold] wrote: I shudder to even think about a tory taking over or even representing me in parliament. I once lived in a constituency who did not represent his people and spent more time with his banker friends and other money people so much so that people thought him to be an utter waste of time that in 1997 what was classed as a safe Tory seat went over to Labour.[/p][/quote]Cancelled out by the Scarlet Pimpernel, Stuart Bell the Boro's answer to a sleeper cell spragger

10:41pm Wed 14 Sep 11

stuartteeside says...

does it really matter who wins a so called election...dont people realise we live in a one party state...i will govern this country as new labour tony bLIAR said....mp"s released from jail after serving just a quarter of jail terms for thieving....we are all in it together cameron says...wait hes worth 70 million pounds...ah well all"s well with the world...coronations streets starting...time to close my ikea curtains shut....get my drift...wake up sheeple x
does it really matter who wins a so called election...dont people realise we live in a one party state...i will govern this country as new labour tony bLIAR said....mp"s released from jail after serving just a quarter of jail terms for thieving....we are all in it together cameron says...wait hes worth 70 million pounds...ah well all"s well with the world...coronations streets starting...time to close my ikea curtains shut....get my drift...wake up sheeple x stuartteeside

11:41pm Wed 14 Sep 11

vince.crosby says...

David Lacey wrote:
What a bunch of whingers! The Electoral Commission has been working on this issue for several years in order to reflect the changes in population due to shift and to even out the size of constituencies. How on earth anyone with a brain larger than a pea can drag politics into this proposal is ridiculous. The Electoral Commission is NOT a Tory invention but to read some of the daft statements above you would be forgiven for thinking that it is.
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The new constituency boundaries may not be perfect and some tinkering may take place after consultation, but they are a big improvement on the existing demarcation lines. And don't forget that a reduction in the number of overpaid underworked MPs will save over 7.5% of the budget.
Just to correct you David but the electorial Commission is the body that oversees elections, the body we are talking about now is the Boundary Commission whilst I do agree that they have been working on it for years it will continue even after the next election until someone say that boundary's should be based on geographical boundary's and not on the number of electors in any given ward the government have said that each division at a parliamentary level should be 76,000 but whilst they are building houses it will change by the time the publication the only area in the whole of England that won't change is the Isle of White with 100,000 people.
[quote][p][bold]David Lacey[/bold] wrote: What a bunch of whingers! The Electoral Commission has been working on this issue for several years in order to reflect the changes in population due to shift and to even out the size of constituencies. How on earth anyone with a brain larger than a pea can drag politics into this proposal is ridiculous. The Electoral Commission is NOT a Tory invention but to read some of the daft statements above you would be forgiven for thinking that it is. . The new constituency boundaries may not be perfect and some tinkering may take place after consultation, but they are a big improvement on the existing demarcation lines. And don't forget that a reduction in the number of overpaid underworked MPs will save over 7.5% of the budget.[/p][/quote]Just to correct you David but the electorial Commission is the body that oversees elections, the body we are talking about now is the Boundary Commission whilst I do agree that they have been working on it for years it will continue even after the next election until someone say that boundary's should be based on geographical boundary's and not on the number of electors in any given ward the government have said that each division at a parliamentary level should be 76,000 but whilst they are building houses it will change by the time the publication the only area in the whole of England that won't change is the Isle of White with 100,000 people. vince.crosby

11:58am Thu 15 Sep 11

Catherine Gilsenan says...

Well said vince.crosby. Of course the population will have changed by the time it comes into force. The only sensible thing, as you maintain, is to base constituencies on historical and regional areas instead of numbers and statistics. The people in Whitehall know nothing about life outside London, let alone their own Ivory Towers!
Well said vince.crosby. Of course the population will have changed by the time it comes into force. The only sensible thing, as you maintain, is to base constituencies on historical and regional areas instead of numbers and statistics. The people in Whitehall know nothing about life outside London, let alone their own Ivory Towers! Catherine Gilsenan

12:48pm Fri 16 Sep 11

David Lacey says...

Thanks for putting me right Vince. In respect of new build though it should be noted that in the whole of the region scarcely 5,000 homes are constructed in a good year and this represents an increase of only 0.5% on the existing housing stock. And this figure should be offset by the significant number of demolitions. My point is that population changes are slow and won't have a significant impact upon the proposals. Sadly Catherine joins those who castigate the statisticians who have worked long and hard to prepare this report. It may not be perfect, but to denigrate them with a throw-away comment is rather pathetic.
Thanks for putting me right Vince. In respect of new build though it should be noted that in the whole of the region scarcely 5,000 homes are constructed in a good year and this represents an increase of only 0.5% on the existing housing stock. And this figure should be offset by the significant number of demolitions. My point is that population changes are slow and won't have a significant impact upon the proposals. Sadly Catherine joins those who castigate the statisticians who have worked long and hard to prepare this report. It may not be perfect, but to denigrate them with a throw-away comment is rather pathetic. David Lacey

2:22pm Fri 16 Sep 11

Catherine Gilsenan says...

When you say they have worked long and hard to prepare this report, this begs the question "How?"
How on earth have they come up with such a ridiculous map?
There is no sense or logic to it at all?
When you say they have worked long and hard to prepare this report, this begs the question "How?" How on earth have they come up with such a ridiculous map? There is no sense or logic to it at all? Catherine Gilsenan

12:03pm Sat 17 Sep 11

tomtopper says...

It would be nice to see some more tory areas in the region.. Balance things out a little and show that at least some parts of the north-east aren't brainwashed...
It would be nice to see some more tory areas in the region.. Balance things out a little and show that at least some parts of the north-east aren't brainwashed... tomtopper

4:28pm Sat 17 Sep 11

David Lacey says...

Catherine
The production of this report took a long time and was the culmination of detailed research carried out by a team of civil servants. You may not like their conclusions and that is your right. But there will be plenty of people who understand why the map was redrawn this way and are happy with the result. Surely you don't think that it was a 5 minute back of a fag packet job?
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I reiterate, your comment was trite and you should apologise.
Catherine The production of this report took a long time and was the culmination of detailed research carried out by a team of civil servants. You may not like their conclusions and that is your right. But there will be plenty of people who understand why the map was redrawn this way and are happy with the result. Surely you don't think that it was a 5 minute back of a fag packet job? . I reiterate, your comment was trite and you should apologise. David Lacey

4:29pm Sat 17 Sep 11

David Lacey says...

Catherine
The production of this report took a long time and was the culmination of detailed research carried out by a team of civil servants. You may not like their conclusions and that is your right. But there will be plenty of people who understand why the map was redrawn this way and are happy with the result. Surely you don't think that it was a 5 minute back of a fag packet job?
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I reiterate, your comment was trite and you should apologise.
Catherine The production of this report took a long time and was the culmination of detailed research carried out by a team of civil servants. You may not like their conclusions and that is your right. But there will be plenty of people who understand why the map was redrawn this way and are happy with the result. Surely you don't think that it was a 5 minute back of a fag packet job? . I reiterate, your comment was trite and you should apologise. David Lacey

12:07am Sun 18 Sep 11

Catherine Gilsenan says...

On the contrary, I reiterate my point, that the redrawn map is without reason and logic. Many people will be protesting, not least those in the West of the region, whose constituency will now reach for miles and miles and miles .... It may have a similar number of constituents as other proposed constituencies, but the areas have no connection at all.
On the contrary, I reiterate my point, that the redrawn map is without reason and logic. Many people will be protesting, not least those in the West of the region, whose constituency will now reach for miles and miles and miles .... It may have a similar number of constituents as other proposed constituencies, but the areas have no connection at all. Catherine Gilsenan

5:55pm Sun 18 Sep 11

David Lacey says...

You abused the authors and implied that they have no brains.
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You should apologise.
You abused the authors and implied that they have no brains. . You should apologise. David Lacey

1:08pm Mon 19 Sep 11

Graeme_r says...

To David Lacey, I think a better job could have been done by the BC statitcians and I think you are out of order asking Catherine to apologise. There are many illogical boundaries and changes because the BC 's agents don't understand local geography. For example Billingham which is served by Stockton Borough Council. Relocating the Billingham North ward to Hartlepool and leaving the other four Billingham Wards in the Stockton and Billingham constituency is one of their proposals. The BC needed about 7000 electors to make up the quota and noticed that North Billingham Ward had about 7000 electors. The BC appear to have done what is convenient to meet the reduction in the number of seats and the elector numbers laid down by Government. I urge people to contact their Councillors and existing MP and make representations to the BC, preferably with counter proposals that make Geographical sense. But remember each constituency must contain between roughly 72000 and 78000 electors.
To David Lacey, I think a better job could have been done by the BC statitcians and I think you are out of order asking Catherine to apologise. There are many illogical boundaries and changes because the BC 's agents don't understand local geography. For example Billingham which is served by Stockton Borough Council. Relocating the Billingham North ward to Hartlepool and leaving the other four Billingham Wards in the Stockton and Billingham constituency is one of their proposals. The BC needed about 7000 electors to make up the quota and noticed that North Billingham Ward had about 7000 electors. The BC appear to have done what is convenient to meet the reduction in the number of seats and the elector numbers laid down by Government. I urge people to contact their Councillors and existing MP and make representations to the BC, preferably with counter proposals that make Geographical sense. But remember each constituency must contain between roughly 72000 and 78000 electors. Graeme_r

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