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65,000 North families to be stripped of tax credits


ABOUT 65,000 families in the region will see their tax credits disappear under a draconian squeeze starting next year.

The figure is the first analysis of the impact of the coalition Government’s shock decision to withdraw thousands of pounds a year from most families earning above £30,000.

The crackdown – to be introduced gradually, from next April – goes much further than the Conservative manifesto pledge to only target families earning more than £50,000.

According to figures released to MPs, there are about 46,000 families with household incomes above £30,000 currently receiving tax credits in County Durham, the Tees Valley and Tyne and Wear.

The highest number is the 3,500 families in the Stockton South constituency of James Wharton. There are a further 18,500 claimants earning above £30,000 across North Yorkshire Yvette Copper, Labour’s work spokeswoman, attacked the squeeze, saying: “It is deeply unfair to cut child tax credit for families who already find themselves overstretched.

“Tax credits are invaluable for working mothers and, in many cases, are what helps them afford to work part-time rather than full-time, or pay for child care costs.”

But, in his Budget speech, Chancellor George Osborne, described the £30bn tax credits bill as “unsustainable”, adding: “We need to target tax credits on those who need the help most.”

Under the changes, families earning more than £40,000 will have their payments stopped next April. A year later, the threshold will be cut to £30,000 – or possibly close to £25,000.

However, families with more than one child will continue to receive an additional “child element” of the tax credit, which will be worth up to £2,500-a-year from April, on a sliding scale according to income The statistics were released as radical plans were unveiled to dismantle the tax credits system altogether, by combining it with income support and housing benefit.

A second option, put forward by Work and Pensions Secretary Iain Duncan Smith, would see a single “universal credit” replacing about 50 working age benefits.

The idea is to “make work pay”, encouraging millions of long-term jobless to take up a job by allowing them to keep more of their benefits when they do so.

But the plan has a formidable cost – estimated at between £3.5bn and £7bn – at a time when the Treasury is demanding huge cuts at the Department for Work and Pensions.

Mr Duncan Smith insisted his plans would would lead to “dramatic savings” in the long run – partly by cutting out huge errors in the tax credits system, totalling billions every year – adding: “We have done the maths.”

But yesterday’s consultation paper contained few details about the level of any universal benefit and at what point benefit withdrawal would be tapered under a new system.

Comments(14)

Jolly Roger says...
7:01pm Sat 31 Jul 10

Well in my younger days my parents got NO handouts like this and brought us up to repect money, i.e. you didn't get anything before you could afford it.

So lets save money and scrap it altogether.

And if people cnnot live on £30,000 yer, alot of the pensioners and people on benefits do with alot less.

westminister says...
12:14am Sun 1 Aug 10

I agree with "jolly Roger" we also have never been entitled to this money and we don't earn no where near 30,000 a year. I agree the gravy train should stop and if they want a multitude of children then let them earn to keep them. Maybe we may not have to pay as much tax if we don't have to pay for their upkeep!

Dante says...
7:50am Sun 1 Aug 10

But why didn't they also stop paying Child benefit for those on 30000 and above?

darlo-rhino says...
11:04am Sun 1 Aug 10

Yes and scrap state pensions for people under 84 who did nort serve in the war and have made no special contribution tot he country. These lazy people are still fit enough to get down the pub on their tax payers money so get 'em working. They can sit on a checkout or in an office no worries. Why should I have to pay for old people who have done nothing for me and probably spent most of the seventies on strike and allowing british industry to collapse.

Dante says...
10:37pm Sun 1 Aug 10

darlo-rhino wrote:
Yes and scrap state pensions for people under 84 who did nort serve in the war and have made no special contribution tot he country. These lazy people are still fit enough to get down the pub on their tax payers money so get 'em working. They can sit on a checkout or in an office no worries. Why should I have to pay for old people who have done nothing for me and probably spent most of the seventies on strike and allowing british industry to collapse.
You aschloch............
.all the comments were accurate and considered till you decided to type with your brain out of gear.
I'm only in my 60's but have served my country in many capacities. Now if you want to meet me man to man and tell me to my face that I'm not die to a pension because I'm not 84, you may just find out how fit I am and able to change your mind.......don't know how old you are bonny lad or lass, but you probably haven't done enough to keep me considereing what I've do for you and your generation.

darlo-rhino says...
2:54pm Mon 2 Aug 10

Dante - oh you dont like it up you do you! - accurate comments slating families and wishing to deny them what has been allowed to them because of course all people of family rearing age are young scroungers arent they compared to people of middle to old age who spen their lives peeing it up against the wall and made no provision for themselves they of course dont exist do they. My formative years in the 70's were spent hearing of strikes and mayhem caused by working people who lets say would be 35 then would now be 70 (older than you) now. Cut back there. That age group buggered it for everybody after the self less efforts of their forefathers and now sit with their hands out wanting pensions when they can still work. Start your cuts their and leave hard working modern families alone. I'll over look your veiled threat to me old boy I'll put it down to your testosterone levels dropping as your dotage approaches.

lovedurham says...
8:29am Tue 3 Aug 10

Simple enough question...........W
hy should households earning over 40K pa. recieve tax credits??? This as well as child benefit (currently @£80 per month). Come on Rob Merrick, surely you can report on something other than Tory bashing?

George BA says...
3:11pm Tue 3 Aug 10

and why should someone without kids pay for child benefit, it is because we are living in England not america or even some third world country. we could end up with a 'healh service' that only looks after people healthy enough to get insurance, like they do in the US

Why should we pay anything into a system that isn't going to look after us in a time of need.
The majority of people expect health care, being educated, assistance in bringing up a family and a pension in retirement.
In return everyone is expected to contribute though working and paying taxes until we reach the agreed retirment age.
If we are unwilling to pay the price, we will not get the benefit, and then we will find out how well off we all are. It will be those earning well over £30,000 a year that can afford to pay for education, health care etc and then have a pension at retirment age. We all take out of the bucket at one time or another it is only fair to pay in to it.

Not everyone has children, but we all pay towards children allowance etc and education, and not all of us will reach pension age, but we all expect there to be something there if we get there.

If the present government gets their way we will end up paying the same for much less than we have been acustomed to, and remember it is only politicians not business leaders or economists saying we need to slash and burn public services, and we know how greedy and incompetent politicians can be.

loan_star says...
6:11pm Tue 3 Aug 10

How else will you reduce the massive debt without getting less for what we pay now?

George BA says...
8:09pm Tue 3 Aug 10

In the case of Durham County council, make redundant workers redundant, it isnt rocket science, and pay them the statutory minimim redundancy, since we have no money left

darlo-rhino says...
8:49am Wed 4 Aug 10

I agree tax creditas should be cut for those on better incomes. My resentment here was those who immediately call for anything to do with families to be cut while a sacred cow seems to exist over people of a certain age my point was that it was just as possible to make a case for reducing pension rights for certaingroups as any other group. Why should people without kids pay for those who have. Fine remove them. And then for me who does have a family then reduce the heavy burden of taxation from me for those who have merely aged like we all will. Why should I pay for pensions to people who had ample opportunity to sort this out themselves and have made no special contribution to my life unlike older pensioners who did so through WWII service.

loan_star says...
12:34pm Wed 4 Aug 10

"My resentment here was those who immediately call for anything to do with families to be cut while a sacred cow seems to exist over people of a certain age"

Maybe because, with a little care, families can be kept to an affordable size whereas getting old is inevitable and cant be stopped. Thats why benefits for older people should be protected at the expense of families etc.

MrMorden says...
1:20pm Wed 4 Aug 10

I dont have kids, why should I pay for other parents child care etc. In that case you should pay for my holiday to the states.

While also means testing it, it should also be capped. Im hacked off with people who raise big familes and go marching off to the DHSS to get their handouts. I would say max 2 kids.

darlo-rhino says...
8:58am Thu 5 Aug 10

aye loan star and just the same as having a family it can be planned for - we all know we are getting older and one day we will need resources for ourselves. I say remove tax credits and pensions for people who never saved a dime throughout their working career and now expect me to cough up for them. Remove all the socail security - but for every one not just for families. I imagine most of the oldies on here grew up in an era when one wage supported the whole family because the men were in heavy industries. I imagine these younger pensioners were inthe era of strikes inthe 60's and 70's which led to the collapse of these industries yet here they are expecting us to pay. I have enough of a financial burden to deal with bringing upa family in these cash strapped times and would welcome the tax relief from not paying for non productive pensioners who in many cases could still do a days work now.


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