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Shock as BNP wins two seats in Euro elections


THE FAR right British National Party provoked outrage last night after winning its first seats in the European Parliament.

Politicians on all sides of the party spectrum united to condemn the result.

Health Secretary Andy Burnham said the BNP win was a "sad moment". The BNP candidate said it was the "first step to freedom" from EU "dictatorship".

It was a terrible night for Labour, with the party capturing just 15.8 per cent of the votes.

In the North-East, however, it was business as usual, albeit with a much reduced Labour share of the vote.

The British National Party won seats in a national election for the first time in its history after receiving 120,139 votes in the Yorkshire and Humber region.

The party’s candidate Andrew Brons became one of six MEPs elected in the Yorkshire and Humber region.

And in the North-West of England, party leader Nick Griffin was elected.

Labour saw its share of the vote squeezed, with the far right party doing particularly well in South Yorkshire.

The British National Party achieved 16% of the vote in Barnsley, nearly 12% in Doncaster and 15% in Rotherham.

Richmond MP William Hague described the BNP's success as a "deplorable result" and claimed the far right party had gained traction at Labour's expense.

Paul Kenny, general secretary of the GMB union, said: ‘‘On D-Day, Britain sent an army to Europe to stop the Nazis getting to Britain. ‘‘It is an absolute insult to the memories to those who fought that 65 years later Britain is now sending Nazis to Europe to represent us.’’

BNP Chairman Nick Griffin said his party would go on to become a major political force.

In the North-East, Stephen Hughes (Lab), Martin Callanan (Con) and Fiona Hall (Lib/Dem) have all been re-elected.

But Labour's share of the vote has slumped by nine per cent and there have been big gains for the UK Independence Party and the BNP, which polled more than 50,000 votes.

Already Welsh Secretary Peter Hain has predicted the party is facing a "terrible" night.

With Mr Brown’s political survival hanging in the balance, deputy leader Harriet Harman admitted that they were expecting a ‘‘very dismal’’ night.

If Labour's North-East decline is repeated elsewhere it will add to the pressure on Gordon Brown who has vowed to stay in office despite calls to go.

Labour, which won 25 per cent of the vote in the North-East, the Conservatives, which won 19.8 per cent, and the Lib Dems, on 17.6 per cent, were each awarded a single MEP

The UKIP candidate received more than 90,000 votes.

Stephen Hughes said: "I am delighted with the backdrop of everything thats being going on recently that we have topped the poll.

"I think the Labour party has to unite behind the Prime Minister and back his attempts to clean up politics here in Britain."

The BNP was poised to win its first seat, Labour sources said.

The party’s candidate Andrew Brons was on course to become one of six MEPs elected in the Yorkshire and Humber region, according to unofficial estimates.

Labour saw its share of the vote squeezed, with the far right party doing particularly well in South Yorkshire.

The British National Party achieved 16% of the vote in Barnsley, nearly 12% in Doncaster and 15% in Rotherham.

In the South East Labour were being pushed into fifth place behind the Green Party.

With around half the votes declared, the Conservatives were well in the lead, polling more than 450,000 votes, with the UK Independent Party in second place on 250,000.

The Liberal Democrats were third with 192,000 and the Green Party edged Labour on 144,000, with Labour trailing in fifth with 101,000. The British Nationalist Party had just under 60,000.

It was not possible to give an indication of what this would mean for seats but it looked likely that the Conservatives would keep the four seats they won in 2004.

Conservative MEP Daniel Hannan said: ‘‘We are winning by a decent margin.’’ In Scotland Nationalists outpolled Labour by a clear margin in early results.

The SNP looked certain to finish the night ahead of Labour in the popular vote - achieving the goal which SNP leader Alex Salmond had set his party.

On early results of how Scotland voted at local council level, the Labour vote was not yet in meltdown and the party could finish up in second place in terms of the Scottish share of the vote.

In a series of humiliations the SNP outpolled Labour in several council areas including Edinburgh.

In Fife, the home turf of Gordon Brown, Labour squeaked ahead of the SNP but only by a 200-vote margin - 21,248 to 21,043.

Labour was deal a spectacular blow in East Renfrewshire - this time not by the SNP but by the Tories.

Jim Murphy, the Secretary of State for Scotland, is MP for Eastwood, which covers East Renfrewshire council area.

And tonight Labour came third there with 20.8% of the votes, behind the first-place Tories at 28.6% and the second-place SNP with 22.8% The full Scottish result will not be known until tomorrow, when voting figures for the Western Isles council are disclosed.

But after about a third of Scotland’s council areas announced their figures, a Scottish Press Association calculation put the Tories on 17%, the Liberal Democrats on 13%, the Greens on 9%, the SNP on 28%, and Labour on 20%.

UKIP was polling at just under 5%.

The last European elections gave Labour, the Tories and the SNP two seats each, and the Lib Dems one.

This time round, the number of Scottish Euro seats is falling to six.

And whether Labour keeps two Euro seats in Scotland could go right to the wire- when the final figures for the Western Isles are announced tomorrow.

NE Results: BNP 52,700 Cons 116,911 Christian Party 7,263 Green 34,081 English Democrats 13,003 Jury Team 2,904 Labour 147,338 Lib Dems 103,644 Libertas 3,010 No to EU 8,066 Socialist Labour 10,238 UKIP 90,700


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billysaid, aycliffe says...
12:16am Mon 8 Jun 09

brilliant news!!..you know it makes sense...BNP.

gilberto, says...
8:15am Mon 8 Jun 09

It's a shame all you need to vote is the intelligence to write an "X" in a box. Maybe if we got people to sign their first name in the box instead, these neanderthals wouldn't vote for those half-baked racist neanderthals

Steve Day, Sedgefield says...
8:53am Mon 8 Jun 09

That will teach the mainstream parties to avoid addressing the serious issue of unwanted, unneeded and unchecked immigration, overcrowding in the UK and the undeniable problem of Islamic incompatability from the Islamic community with west European cultre and values. if the big three parties had addressesd these threats instead of pandering to them in order to secure a few more votes the BNP would not even need to exist. both the BNP and UKIP flourish because the pro europeans who can not even keep their word over a referendum. The Multi culturalists who have never ever consulted the British people if they wanted to be part of this failed " Diversity", they simply had it rammed down their throats. They wond so well because they are simply unafraid to address the very real and unpleasant issues involved around Islam and the EU. I am amazed that the idiot lefties waffle on about Nazis, thugs, neandethals etc not understanding they are attacking huindreds of thousands of ordinary decent hard working British people who see a clear and distinct threat to their cultre and way of life. And of course they accuse the BNP of being violent but yet AGAIN it was clear for all to see last night that it was the great unwashed masses of the " Anti Nazis" ( communists and socialists)were 100% responsible for the thuggish behaviour and violence, just as it was those same lefties who caused the riots in west yorks. OH and it was labour not the BNP who lied to parliament to start an illegal war in Iraq that saw over 600,000 innocent Iraqis muslims murdered. the big three must deal with immigration and the EU if they want to stop UKIP and the BNP.

Steve Day, Sedgefield says...
8:55am Mon 8 Jun 09

gilberto wrote:
It's a shame all you need to vote is the intelligence to write an "X" in a box. Maybe if we got people to sign their first name in the box instead, these neanderthals wouldn't vote for those half-baked racist neanderthals
Do you mean like those same half baked Neanderthals who put an X in the box marked NEW LABOUR whos vote saw 600,000 Iraqi civilians slaughtered because of New Labours lies and deciet ?

gilberto, says...
9:08am Mon 8 Jun 09

Steve Day wrote:
gilberto wrote:
It's a shame all you need to vote is the intelligence to write an "X" in a box. Maybe if we got people to sign their first name in the box instead, these neanderthals wouldn't vote for those half-baked racist neanderthals
Do you mean like those same half baked Neanderthals who put an X in the box marked NEW LABOUR whos vote saw 600,000 Iraqi civilians slaughtered because of New Labours lies and deciet ?
No i REALY mean the knuckle-draggers who voted BNP. It took a world war and millions of lives to rid europe of the last far-right party that came to power. Voting BNP is one of THE biggest insults you can give to any war vet who fought for our freedom.

ozcat, land of the free says...
9:10am Mon 8 Jun 09

All im hearing on the news is "its a bad day for democracy" well isnt it democracy that we now have 2 excellent men as BNP MEP's, the people have voted and i cannot wait for Mr Winstanleys response.....Pete?

DWilson, Darlington says...
9:11am Mon 8 Jun 09

Apathy is the enemy of democracy.
Whilst it is an annoyance that the gloating hordes of the far right will be having their moment, it was not unexpected.
You will always get a higher turnout of supporters for extremist parties/causes good or bad. It is the nature of the beast.
It is interesting and perhaps comforting to note that the BNP's total vote for Yorks & Humber is actually DOWN on last time. Of course last time, we had postal voting so the total "turnout" was higher. More BNP supporters have got up off their backsides to actually bother to go and vote. Disaffection, laziness and apathy has stopped 1000's more non-BNP votes being cast.
Perhaps last night may actually galvanise more to go and vote to keep out the BNP in future rather than actually go and vote BNP.
Shame on the electorate were they to actually come to power. The NHS will suffer far, far more than under any government over the last 30 years for starters.

ozcat, land of the free says...
9:20am Mon 8 Jun 09

gilberto wrote:
Steve Day wrote:
gilberto wrote: It's a shame all you need to vote is the intelligence to write an "X" in a box. Maybe if we got people to sign their first name in the box instead, these neanderthals wouldn't vote for those half-baked racist neanderthals
Do you mean like those same half baked Neanderthals who put an X in the box marked NEW LABOUR whos vote saw 600,000 Iraqi civilians slaughtered because of New Labours lies and deciet ?
No i REALY mean the knuckle-draggers who voted BNP. It took a world war and millions of lives to rid europe of the last far-right party that came to power. Voting BNP is one of THE biggest insults you can give to any war vet who fought for our freedom.
So if it took world wars ans millions of lives why the hell is our country being given away to europe without a fight, Hitler wanted a united europe and now under labour he is getting his wish.I also think if you open your eyes and remove your blinkers youll find a lot of war vetrans voted BNP for the exact reasons ive stated above.

gilberto, says...
10:11am Mon 8 Jun 09

That's a bit rich ozcat, your party is run by someone with very strong anti-semitic views, something he shares with Hitler?


J.Moffatt, chilton says...
11:18am Mon 8 Jun 09

Just heard an ambulance on the way to Mr.Diversity Pete Winstanley after he collapsed with fear over the BNP victories.Ha Ha Ha PS. How will my pillock of an MP Phil Wilson cope.

DWilson, Darlington says...
11:59am Mon 8 Jun 09

Mr Moffatt.
Laughing even at the hypothetical suffering of another is not big or clever. However seeing as the BNP's roots glorified in or denied the suffering caused by the enemy during WWII, perhaps it is not surprising. To paraphrase that idiot Collett, "it is what they" (the BNP) "do".
As for your pillock of an MP, I neither know nor care as I cannot bring myself to sympathise with New Labour.
We can bang on about diversity and multi-culturalism till the cows come but nobody can yet give me a decent answer as to what aspects of our British culture are being eroded. I think the indigenous white population (of which I am one) have done a good enough job of that without the influence of immigrants.
This policy of a mono-culture is ridiculous anyway. As HAL Fisher wrote "Purity of race does not exist, Europe is a continent of energetic mongrels".

Down boy!!

J.Moffatt, chilton says...
12:11pm Mon 8 Jun 09

D.Wilson pleased to see that you call yourself a Mongrel dog.

DWilson, Darlington says...
12:48pm Mon 8 Jun 09

Mr Moffatt

Please note that I have labelled all of us as such.
In keeping with the dog analogy, if you are pure bred as you infer you are, then chances are that you are probably inbred too.
Sorry but your comments have indirectly re-inforced the back-handed slur often put upon your village from other quarters of the county. Well done!!

J.Moffatt, chilton says...
1:46pm Mon 8 Jun 09

Good news that Chilton is Known as a white enclave,thanks DWilson.

melwilson, Darlington says...
2:10pm Mon 8 Jun 09

and Moffat is exactly the kind of scum that vote BNP

Steve Day, Sedgefield says...
2:13pm Mon 8 Jun 09

gilberto wrote:
Steve Day wrote:
gilberto wrote: It's a shame all you need to vote is the intelligence to write an "X" in a box. Maybe if we got people to sign their first name in the box instead, these neanderthals wouldn't vote for those half-baked racist neanderthals
Do you mean like those same half baked Neanderthals who put an X in the box marked NEW LABOUR whos vote saw 600,000 Iraqi civilians slaughtered because of New Labours lies and deciet ?
No i REALY mean the knuckle-draggers who voted BNP. It took a world war and millions of lives to rid europe of the last far-right party that came to power. Voting BNP is one of THE biggest insults you can give to any war vet who fought for our freedom.
Aye it did take 6 years to get rid of the Nazis and it took another 45 years to get rid of the socialists in the USSR who killed ten times the numbers of people the evil nazis did. It was 45 years of left wing undemocratic cold war supported by the left who ruined Easten Europe, and through the EU (ssr) is trying to do the same. I dont suppose the lefties care to notice that yet ONCE AGAIN the violence, thuggerry and disruption of the democratic process was again caused by the trade union funded Anti Nazis. just as it was the same lefties who incited the violent riots in west Yorks and tried to stop democracy at work. Hundreds of thousands of ordinary decent people have had enough of the parasitism and iimmorality that is New labour and socialism, and last night they began to fight back, fairly and democratically something the left hates. Well done Tories, UKIP, Greens and BNP for kicking the most evil and pervasive political party ever into the gutter.

DWilson, Darlington says...
2:14pm Mon 8 Jun 09

I was going to add that if you were so pure bred but not inbred, then perhaps you were of a darker skin tone Mr Moffatt.

Guess you answered that already. Careful you don't scrape your extra knuckle dragging it on the floor eh?

DWilson, Darlington says...
2:17pm Mon 8 Jun 09

Think you may find Combat 18 were heavily involved in organising some of the West Yorks aggro. A certain N Griffin joined them for drinks as well down the boozer saying they were all on the same side.

Steve Day, Sedgefield says...
2:20pm Mon 8 Jun 09

DWilson wrote:
Apathy is the enemy of democracy. Whilst it is an annoyance that the gloating hordes of the far right will be having their moment, it was not unexpected. You will always get a higher turnout of supporters for extremist parties/causes good or bad. It is the nature of the beast. It is interesting and perhaps comforting to note that the BNP's total vote for Yorks & Humber is actually DOWN on last time. Of course last time, we had postal voting so the total "turnout" was higher. More BNP supporters have got up off their backsides to actually bother to go and vote. Disaffection, laziness and apathy has stopped 1000's more non-BNP votes being cast. Perhaps last night may actually galvanise more to go and vote to keep out the BNP in future rather than actually go and vote BNP. Shame on the electorate were they to actually come to power. The NHS will suffer far, far more than under any government over the last 30 years for starters.
All the mainstream parties had to do to stop the BNP, UKIp et al from getting anywhere was to keep the promises they made to not raise taxes, give us areferendum on the EU, stop the waves of unwanted , uneeded and unneccessary immigration, and to tackle the rise of Islam in the UK. All things they promised to do, all theing they failed to keep their word on. Heck they could not even keep their word on post office closures.

Now thanks to New Labour and the tories we have a divided naton that is bankrupt, at war, with failing schools and public services, more people than ever on benefits. Whole parts of society disenfrachised, any Multi Culturalism proven to be a complete disaster.

The BNP, UKIP, Grens etc are just filling a void that labour left

Steve Day, Sedgefield says...
2:25pm Mon 8 Jun 09

melwilson wrote:
and Moffat is exactly the kind of scum that vote BNP
And as much as I dislike extremist parties Mr Moffats support of the BNP definately gives him the moral highground over anyone who votes Labour. Mr Moffats choice of party has not Wrecked the UK both morally and financially, and his choice of party is not responsible for illegal wars of the deaths of 600,000 Iraqis, thats totally new Labour.. dont forget that once again ALL of the thuggery and violence and disruption of elections was shown on life TV to be the trade Union and Labour partry supported far left Anti Nazis. And just as the soviets turned out tyo be a much greater evil than the disgusting nazis, the Left in the UK is showing itself to be far worse than the minority parties.

Steve Day, Sedgefield says...
2:27pm Mon 8 Jun 09

DWilson wrote:
Think you may find Combat 18 were heavily involved in organising some of the West Yorks aggro. A certain N Griffin joined them for drinks as well down the boozer saying they were all on the same side.
Actually no Sir, I was watching the news on the dat the Chief Constable of west Yorks annouced that the trigger for the riots was the ANL ( anti Nazi League) as the loony left were called at the time, and he admitted that at the times leading up to and during the riots Mr Griffen and his thugs were in London not Yorkshire

Pete Winstanley, Durham says...
2:32pm Mon 8 Jun 09

No doubt Mr Moffatt will be relieved to know that I am alive and well.

I agree with Paul Kenny: "On D-Day, Britain sent an army to Europe to stop the Nazis getting to Britain. It is an absolute insult to the memories to those who fought that 65 years later Britain is now sending Nazis to Europe to represent us."

This is not a BNP “victory.” It is the predictable consequence of a dramatic collapse in support for New Labour, and in does not reflect any increase in support for the BNP. As D Wilson noted, the BNP vote was down in Yorks and Humber. Same in the North West – Griffin got fewer votes than the 2004 BNP candidate.

The BNP is now even more in the limelight, and may find it increasingly difficult to conceal from the British public the neo-Nazi ideology which underpins its policies. This development should expose the BNP’s close association with other neo-Nazi groups in Europe, such as Forza Nuova (Italy) NDP (Germany) Jobbik (Hungary) Noua Dreapta (Romania) Attack (Bulgaria) and Front National (France).

billysaid, aycliffe says...
2:54pm Mon 8 Jun 09

i dont know why you lot keep going on about the world war for !...that was almost 60 years ago. times and countrys have changed since then. both labour and tories have proved they cannot run the country for its people...so i would like to see the BNP in power,to sort this mess out !.

Pete Winstanley, Durham says...
3:23pm Mon 8 Jun 09

Yes, Billy lad, it was 60 years ago, but sadly the Nazi ideology still survives in small extremist groups throughout Europe, including the BNP. As WW2 veteran Ken Riley put it, “We mustn’t repeat the mistake that the German people made in the 1930s when they voted for the Nazis. The BNP may pretend otherwise, but they stand for hatred just like the Nazis.”

Do you seriously believe that this bunch of thugs, nutters and criminals could turn out to be less corrupt than the current lot?

gilberto, says...
3:26pm Mon 8 Jun 09

billysaid wrote:
i dont know why you lot keep going on about the world war for !...that was almost 60 years ago. times and countrys have changed since then. both labour and tories have proved they cannot run the country for its people...so i would like to see the BNP in power,to sort this mess out !.
Like the BNP don't? Like the use of Churchill's image in your propaganda? Or the (Polish) Spitfire?

BrianJC, Spennymoor says...
3:30pm Mon 8 Jun 09

Well New Labour
It's happened on your watch.
Your times up and that includes you Gordon.

pxatkins, Witton Park says...
6:06pm Mon 8 Jun 09

Let all the poisons that are in the mud hatch out - Claudius Caesar

J.Moffatt, chilton says...
6:32pm Mon 8 Jun 09

Why are those who shout the loudest regarding Free speech the very same people screaming abuse about the BNP.People voted BNP and UKIP because the freedoms of this country are being eroded.It is nothing to do with being skinheads etc.(When was the last time anyone actually saw a skinhead because for me it was about 8 years ago when I saw Madness)Its called Democracy.

J.Moffatt, chilton says...
6:42pm Mon 8 Jun 09

Just watched the news and saw that IRA/Sinn fein got the largest vote in Northern Ireland.Bet Mr.Wilson wont be complaining about these Terrorists winning a ballot.Typical 2 faced leftie luvie.

Steve Day, Sedgefield says...
6:44pm Mon 8 Jun 09

So did socialism for another 45 years and it killed twn times the amount of people the scumbag nazis did. it plunged eastern Europe into nearlt 50 years of left wing socialist hell that was not shook off until 1990 and what the EU is now trying to force onto the western half of europe. New Labour is the most insidious evil corrupt and immoral threat to democracy the UK has ever faced. With the nazis they came from overseas and tried to destroy us using force, then followed the socialists who used lies and intimidation from the USSR, now its evil eroding our nation from within by New Labours lies, deciet and slow but steady erosion of our rights and liberties under the guise of multi culturalism and fighting the fleeting ghost of terrorism. Socialism be it Communism, Marxism ,Leninism, Labour or whatever name it is called always fails, allways corrupts and is a much greater evil than any other system.

Steve Day, Sedgefield says...
6:50pm Mon 8 Jun 09

J.Moffatt wrote:
Just watched the news and saw that IRA/Sinn fein got the largest vote in Northern Ireland.Bet Mr.Wilson wont be complaining about these Terrorists winning a ballot.Typical 2 faced leftie luvie.
The labour party surrendeered to the IRA as soon as it came to power, it freed convicted murderers and made its leaders MPs We knew then that morality was not part of Labours make up.

They complain about the BNP and its policy of only allowiing Brit in, claiming that leaving some people out of any organistion was discriminatory and wicked. This is the same Labour movement who fought and fought to keep closed shops stopping none union members from working in many jobs. It sacks police officers for being in the BNP, yet applauds black police officers for have their own closed organisation. pure lies, distortions and hypocracry reflect the nature of Labour. Not that the tories are any better really.

DWilson, Darlington says...
7:44pm Mon 8 Jun 09

Mr Moffatt
Thank you for breaking that news to me ref. the obvious protest vote in NI. The DUP have also been bloodied by the expenses row - what a surprise!! It also appears that SF's vote is down on last time.
Whilst it is extremely galling and displeasing that convicted murderers and terrorists secured early releases, it should be remembered that this was a process kicked off by the Major government and completed by the Blair government. I'm no friend of New Labour. Sinn Fein has at least renounced terrorism and visibly detached itself from extremist factions. We were not entirely innocent where NI was concerned. Bloody Sunday anyone? If Griffin and his ilk were to renounce all forms of discrimination on the basis of skin colour and religion, if he can openly condemn (not just distance himself from) any actions taken by "white supremacists" as and when they occur, then perhaps they may gain some legitimacy. Methinks they would actually be viewed as selling out by many core supporters.
As for morality debate, this moves up apace now that the BNP have democratically elected representatives and they will be rightly called to task.

Mr Day - thank you for correcting me. I meant the riots in Oldham when Stoke City played there. Griffin and C18 kissed and made up.

PS. I'm sure Suggs and co would be appalled to know BMP supporters were among their fanbase

DWilson, Darlington says...
8:29pm Mon 8 Jun 09

...or BNP for that matter

DWilson, Darlington says...
9:09pm Mon 8 Jun 09

J.Moffatt wrote:
Why are those who shout the loudest regarding Free speech the very same people screaming abuse about the BNP.People voted BNP and UKIP because the freedoms of this country are being eroded.It is nothing to do with being skinheads etc.(When was the last time anyone actually saw a skinhead because for me it was about 8 years ago when I saw Madness)Its called Democracy.
Interesting correlation but utterly pointless. BNP supporters spout just as loudly about free speech.
If the BNP ever came to power, then come back to me about freedoms being eroded - that's if I'm not a political prisoner by then!! - ask me about the freedom of the media which Griffin himself has said as much that would love to control. Ask me about the "voluntary repatriation" of non-whites once the "incentives" are put on the table and then see what freedom means. Freedom to say "No thanks" and feel safe doing so? I think not Mr Moffatt. I suspect many BNP types would gain a little extra swagger pushing non-whites around under some misguided principle that it was now acceptable to do so. Good god no wonder so many people in Chilton look bored and disaffected - no "darkies" to pester.
Don't tell us what democracy is. Any political party which has membership restrictions along the lines of race has no right to call itself democratic

billysaid, aycliffe says...
12:21am Tue 9 Jun 09

j.moffatt and steve day,,,,after reading your comments !!..it makes me even more determine to see the BNP rise to power. lets get this shyt hole country back to what it should be !!!.

DWilson, Darlington says...
8:47am Tue 9 Jun 09

Well one place this country needs to be billysaid is a few rungs higher up on the international literacy ladder. That requires EDUCATION (I won't bore you with Bliar's hollow mantra) which is left in the hands of teachers. A touchy sort are teachers. I think you will find plenty will either quit the job in protest (certainly if BNP started meddling with National Curriculum)or leave the country in droves. We already have enough of a shortage. Mark my words it will get worse under BNP. Maybe they will have no choice but to offer the teaching posts to those skilled immigrants in low paid unskilled jobs or skilled asylum seekers currently in detention centres or living at our expense waiting for their cases to be heard when all they want to do is work

DWilson, Darlington says...
8:48am Tue 9 Jun 09

Oh the irony.
Reap what you sow

Steve Day, Sedgefield says...
9:41am Tue 9 Jun 09

billysaid wrote:
j.moffatt and steve day,,,,after reading your comments !!..it makes me even more determine to see the BNP rise to power. lets get this shyt hole country back to what it should be !!!.
Firstly I want to get us out of europe before the EU becomes the EUSSR,But I campaign against immigration not because of race creed or colour but because of the environment. The UK is full up, simple as that. Much better educated people than me point out time after time that the UK can sustain a population of between 47 and 55 million people. Any more than that and the environment suffers and the overall quality of life declines. We now have 62 million with another 8 million heading this way. We are ALL going to suffer terribly if this is allowed to happen, it will be like living in Hong Kong, grossly overcrowded with a none existant countryside. we are already building on flood planes and green belts, our roads are fulling and crumbling, our rail system, and power systems running flat out, we dont have enough houses for the people already here yet we are supposed to accomodate up to ten million more. Because I want a decent clean,pleasant, green, uncrowded low crime, northern european way of life with hope for a good future for my children the loony left benefit dwellors and marxists condemn people like me as racists. So be it.

Steve Day, Sedgefield says...
9:43am Tue 9 Jun 09

FLOOD PLAINS, I will write out Flood Plains 500 times :o)

I blaim my being a product of Labours education system in the 60s where most of our teachers were off at CND protests instead of working ( nothing changes does it )

Steve Day, Sedgefield says...
9:56am Tue 9 Jun 09

DWilson wrote:
Well one place this country needs to be billysaid is a few rungs higher up on the international literacy ladder. That requires EDUCATION (I won't bore you with Bliar's hollow mantra) which is left in the hands of teachers. A touchy sort are teachers. I think you will find plenty will either quit the job in protest (certainly if BNP started meddling with National Curriculum)or leave the country in droves. We already have enough of a shortage. Mark my words it will get worse under BNP. Maybe they will have no choice but to offer the teaching posts to those skilled immigrants in low paid unskilled jobs or skilled asylum seekers currently in detention centres or living at our expense waiting for their cases to be heard when all they want to do is work
No Sir it can not possibly get ANY worse under the BNP or anyone else for that matter. This government is the most useless and incompetant ever. These city acadamies Blair was so proud of have been a total disaster, one in the Boro has had about 5 Head Masters in its first few years, many of them are now that bad they have cops posted in the schools and security monitoring systems at the doors. Can you not see that anyone who can is taking absolutely desperate measures to try and get their children into whatever few decent schools that remain. I personally know Nurses and Council workers who have remortgaged their homes, chipped in savings and pension schemes to pay for their kids to go to a private school, people move home to avoid the average comp, heck people even lie to try and get their kids into a decent school. Look at most ediucation authorities in tis area they are appauling at best. Many seem to think that schools that less than half the kids get 5 or more GCSEs are god schools, THEY ARE NOT. These are schools where more than half the kids are failed. and the north is full of them.
In Stockton oner of the schools was given the dubous honour of being told it was the 3nd worst in the UK, and it is and always has been in a labour dominated area. The two other comps near by both have GCSE pass marks in the low twenty percents( 80% of the kids are being failed).
If UKIP, BNP or who ever gets in I hope we very quickly get back to Grammar, tech and secondary Moderns schools teaching the basic essentials (AND the glories of British history and achievemnent) On a personal not I would sell a kidney to get my son into a decent private school because the ONLY comp available to me is not only failing ( its pass marks never got over 44%)but its falling to pieces and full of thugs who dont want to be there. Again No sir with the greatest of respect absolutely no party could possibly come close to being as bad as New Labour.

TimeBandit, says...
12:43pm Tue 9 Jun 09

The electorate has spoken and now we have extremist Euro MP's repressenting the UK and that is that.
However, as Pete Winstanley before, and in this particular column Steve Day have pointed out it has been the failure of the incumbent government to deal with genuine problems and concerns about immigration that has prompted the rise in support for this henious bunch the BNP who exploit the worst characteristics of humanity, ie fear and ignorance of other peoples and cultures (mind its not so long ago that people were suspicious of those living in the next village!).
Just for information, I am white skinned and blue eyed, ALL of my ancestors as far back as 1700 (as far back as I've traced so far)on both sides of my family were born in England and I reckon I fulfill all of the criterion to be an Englishman, but as far as I'm concerned anybody born here, regardless of colour or religeon, providing they respect the laws of this country and the values of it's citizens is just as much a Briton as I am.

Colin Wood, Darlington says...
2:19pm Tue 9 Jun 09

When we work it out on merit timebandit they are all more English than you are.
What I would like explained is why the English Democrats and UKIP both anti-immigration parties are not condemned as 'RACIST' by has contributors, do you have to be a poor second class citizen like the average British National Party activist to be so hated and punished?

DWilson, Darlington says...
3:04pm Tue 9 Jun 09

Colin Wood wrote:
When we work it out on merit timebandit they are all more English than you are. What I would like explained is why the English Democrats and UKIP both anti-immigration parties are not condemned as 'RACIST' by has contributors, do you have to be a poor second class citizen like the average British National Party activist to be so hated and punished?
Perhaps because there is a more rational basis to their policy which has nothing to do with skin colour.
They are not masking a policy of ethnic cleansing with fluffy wording

J Bell, Chester-le-Street says...
8:48pm Tue 9 Jun 09

Having read all the comments above posted by the BNP supporters, it disappoints me to think that a certain type of person can only be bothered to vote for a party based on immigration policy. Do they think a few facists will be able to put the world (i.e. the UK) to rights by forcefully removing what they consider to be 'foreigners'. Where do these people think they will work if the foreign investors like Nissan decide to take their jobs 'home'? BNP supporters: take a good look at your yourselves and see where the clothes on your back were made and examine where the goods in your house were manufactured. The UK would be resigned to growing butternut squash and not having the work-force to pick it because the workshy British think it's beneath them to do that sort of work.

Colin Wood, Darlington says...
9:41am Wed 10 Jun 09

DWilson wrote:
Colin Wood wrote: When we work it out on merit timebandit they are all more English than you are. What I would like explained is why the English Democrats and UKIP both anti-immigration parties are not condemned as 'RACIST' by has contributors, do you have to be a poor second class citizen like the average British National Party activist to be so hated and punished?
Perhaps because there is a more rational basis to their policy which has nothing to do with skin colour. They are not masking a policy of ethnic cleansing with fluffy wording
My dad voted Labour all his life Nige (his new super cool name the press are promotinglol)Farage'
s dad was a member of the NF.

DWilson, Darlington says...
1:03pm Wed 10 Jun 09

Colin Wood wrote:
DWilson wrote:
Colin Wood wrote: When we work it out on merit timebandit they are all more English than you are. What I would like explained is why the English Democrats and UKIP both anti-immigration parties are not condemned as 'RACIST' by has contributors, do you have to be a poor second class citizen like the average British National Party activist to be so hated and punished?
Perhaps because there is a more rational basis to their policy which has nothing to do with skin colour. They are not masking a policy of ethnic cleansing with fluffy wording
My dad voted Labour all his life Nige (his new super cool name the press are promotinglol)Farage' s dad was a member of the NF.
And your point here is what exactly?
All that goes to show is that not everybody follows their parent's political opinions

Colin Wood, Darlington says...
1:12pm Wed 10 Jun 09

The UKIP education and mould is not as fluffy as you think Dave Pasqoe from Hartlepool was a founding member of the NF.
Do you really want me to go on?

DWilson, Darlington says...
1:42pm Wed 10 Jun 09

Did I say anything from UKIP was fluffy? No I did not.
I am aware of the allegations against Pascoe and to my knowledge he has never commented on iy. Draw from that what you will.
He is however an individual representing a party whose immigration policy is not based on colour.
I will gladly break bread with a former racist. I have no real reason to believe Griffin is such a person nor his party as a whole whose roots are much darker.
I lived a couple of streets away from their HQ/Bookshop during the time of the Stephen Lawrence murder. I know what scum hung round there

DWilson, Darlington says...
1:42pm Wed 10 Jun 09

Did I say anything from UKIP was fluffy? No I did not.
I am aware of the allegations against Pascoe and to my knowledge he has never commented on iy. Draw from that what you will.
He is however an individual representing a party whose immigration policy is not based on colour.
I will gladly break bread with a former racist. I have no real reason to believe Griffin is such a person nor his party as a whole whose roots are much darker.
I lived a couple of streets away from their HQ/Bookshop during the time of the Stephen Lawrence murder. I know what scum hung round there

Colin Wood, Darlington says...
7:13pm Fri 12 Jun 09

Here is another fine mess every day racism has got itself into.
A British National Party (BNP) candidate arrested after an allegation of racially-aggravated harassment by a Muslim Labour councillor in Newcastle upon Tyne has been told he will face no further action after a police investigation.

Ken Booth, a BNP candidate in the North East of England for the forthcoming European elections, said he had engaged in a bit of "friendly, good natured banter" with the Labour councillor and political rival, Dipu Ahad, at an election count in the city, but claimed his subsequent arrest by Northumbria Police was "politically motivated" and the Labour Party had used the police to "hound" him.

Mr Booth said: "Nobody complained to the police on the night. There was no intent on my part. It was just a bit of jovial, friendly banter."

He added: "If you speak to certain people in this politically correct society and they take it the wrong way, you get your collar felt."

A spokeswoman for Northumbria Police said: " A file was sent to the Crown Prosecution Service, which has decided not to proceed with a prosecution, so no further action will be taken."





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