Council states it "will not" support horse fair at Helmington Row

FAIR PROTEST: Residents of Crook protesting about a travellers' horse, which they feared might be held near their homes. Picture: TOM BANKS

FAIR PROTEST: Residents of Crook protesting about a travellers' horse, which they feared might be held near their homes. Picture: TOM BANKS

FAIR PROTEST: Residents of Crook protesting about a travellers' horse, which they feared might be held near their homes. Picture: TOM BANKS

FAIR PROTEST: Residents of Crook protesting about a travellers' horse, which they feared might be held near their homes. Picture: TOM BANKS

FAIR PROTEST: Residents of Crook protesting about a travellers' horse, which they feared might be held near their homes. Picture: TOM BANKS

FAIR PROTEST: Residents of Crook protesting about a travellers' horse, which they feared might be held near their homes. Picture: TOM BANKS

FAIR PROTEST: Residents of Crook protesting about a travellers' horse, which they feared might be held near their homes. Picture: TOM BANKS

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FEARS an annual horse fair could be relocated to a quiet residential area have been eased after the council confirmed it would not support the event in that location.

Today (Tuesday, August 8), more than 60 residents protested in front of a field at Helmington Row, near Crook, which was being considered as a potential new venue for a travellers' horse fair.

The fair has previously been held at Blackhall, Horden and Seaham to the east of the county on the August Bank Holiday weekend.

News that the Durham County Council had been discussing alternative sites with the event organiser sparked concern in some communities.

And, last month, when the organiser's wife confirmed the fair would take place at Helmington Row on Facebook, residents were convinced a decision had been made without consulting them.

Noise, anti-social behaviour, mess and road safety were among the issues raised, with North West Durham MP, Pat Glass, and local councillors, Eddie Tomlinson and Andrea Patterson, vowing to stand up for the residents.

Ms Glass said: “The people of Helmington Row and Crook do not want this horse fair with its associated problems to come to them but equally I don't want to see this simply moved to another part of my constituency or indeed to some other community in someone else's constituency.

“The County Council should deal with people's objections rather than merely moving the problems around the county.”

Last week, Durham County Council assured the community that no decision had been made regarding the site, stating that the council had been exploring alternative venues to address concerns raised in previous years.

Following a meeting this afternoon (Tuesday, August 8), Oliver Sherratt, head of direct services at Durham County Council, said: “I can confirm that following assessment of all issues we will not be supporting the use of the Helmington Row field as a venue for the Bank Holiday horse fair.

“We have informed the event organiser of our position.”

David Parker, who lives opposite the site at High Jobs Hill, said: “This is tremendous news. We are very relieved. Our only concern is that the travellers will come anyway and we would like to know what will be done to prevent this.”

Alternative venues for the event have not been confirmed.

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6:53pm Tue 5 Aug 14

BigAl_01 says...

The fact the Council isn't supporting it doesn't mean it won't happen. After all, the community involved aren't well known for listening to the authorities. The real questions is what are the Council
The fact the Council isn't supporting it doesn't mean it won't happen. After all, the community involved aren't well known for listening to the authorities. The real questions is what are the Council BigAl_01
  • Score: 9

6:56pm Tue 5 Aug 14

BigAl_01 says...

The real questions are what are the Council going to do to try and stop it happening, how quickly will they evict them if they do turn up, and if it isn't Helmington Row which other community is going to suffer?
The real questions are what are the Council going to do to try and stop it happening, how quickly will they evict them if they do turn up, and if it isn't Helmington Row which other community is going to suffer? BigAl_01
  • Score: 17

6:58pm Tue 5 Aug 14

Fakeycakemaker2 says...

I bet Billy Boy already has plans to welcome them to Darlo. Maybe the roadworks at the Stonebridge roundabout weren't really meant to ease traffic congestion but were just a purpose built race track for them. We're all doomed.
I bet Billy Boy already has plans to welcome them to Darlo. Maybe the roadworks at the Stonebridge roundabout weren't really meant to ease traffic congestion but were just a purpose built race track for them. We're all doomed. Fakeycakemaker2
  • Score: 20

8:27pm Tue 5 Aug 14

JackieShops says...

Yeah, cos there are no horse fairs up in the dales where there's never any bother with young farmers! Good old fashioned nimby bigots in action. Ban one horse fair ban them all. Read the echo reports about last years fair in horden, no botha at all.
Yeah, cos there are no horse fairs up in the dales where there's never any bother with young farmers! Good old fashioned nimby bigots in action. Ban one horse fair ban them all. Read the echo reports about last years fair in horden, no botha at all. JackieShops
  • Score: -29

9:38pm Tue 5 Aug 14

BigAl_01 says...

JackieShops wrote:
Yeah, cos there are no horse fairs up in the dales where there's never any bother with young farmers! Good old fashioned nimby bigots in action. Ban one horse fair ban them all. Read the echo reports about last years fair in horden, no botha at all.
Regardless of whether the fair causes problems or whether the local community are just a bunch of nimby's, both the travellers and the local community will suffer unless the Council and the Police engage properly with the organisers. Instead the Council appears to be sticking it's head in the sand and pretending there isn't going to be a fair. This will mean they can claim they didn't support it whilst doing nothing to stop it. The end result will be that some community suffers with things like traffic congestion if nothing else and the travellers are more likely to cause other problems because things like the provision of portaloos can't be properly planned for. The Council needs to grow a pair and either choose an area and take the flack from the local community or do everything to stop it happening and take the flack from the travellers.
[quote][p][bold]JackieShops[/bold] wrote: Yeah, cos there are no horse fairs up in the dales where there's never any bother with young farmers! Good old fashioned nimby bigots in action. Ban one horse fair ban them all. Read the echo reports about last years fair in horden, no botha at all.[/p][/quote]Regardless of whether the fair causes problems or whether the local community are just a bunch of nimby's, both the travellers and the local community will suffer unless the Council and the Police engage properly with the organisers. Instead the Council appears to be sticking it's head in the sand and pretending there isn't going to be a fair. This will mean they can claim they didn't support it whilst doing nothing to stop it. The end result will be that some community suffers with things like traffic congestion if nothing else and the travellers are more likely to cause other problems because things like the provision of portaloos can't be properly planned for. The Council needs to grow a pair and either choose an area and take the flack from the local community or do everything to stop it happening and take the flack from the travellers. BigAl_01
  • Score: 13

10:56pm Tue 5 Aug 14

kim2713 says...

I think the locals should be welcoming this to the doorstep. And councils should be taking a more active role to help. If this goes ahead with the right help will boost local profits. I attend appleby every year and that little town is put on the map due to that event with thousands of visitors and travellers over the 5 day event. Open the field make designated resting places for the travellers with eminaties with a little police/council presents. Yes they might travel around in there nice caravans leave a mess as they dont have a rubbish collection ect. But at the same time these people are only human. Like all of us living there life the way they want. And I aint a traveller or have aby travelling relitives but admire there life they lead and the hardships they overcome
I think the locals should be welcoming this to the doorstep. And councils should be taking a more active role to help. If this goes ahead with the right help will boost local profits. I attend appleby every year and that little town is put on the map due to that event with thousands of visitors and travellers over the 5 day event. Open the field make designated resting places for the travellers with eminaties with a little police/council presents. Yes they might travel around in there nice caravans leave a mess as they dont have a rubbish collection ect. But at the same time these people are only human. Like all of us living there life the way they want. And I aint a traveller or have aby travelling relitives but admire there life they lead and the hardships they overcome kim2713
  • Score: -56

7:54am Wed 6 Aug 14

Copley23 says...

kim2713 wrote:
I think the locals should be welcoming this to the doorstep. And councils should be taking a more active role to help. If this goes ahead with the right help will boost local profits. I attend appleby every year and that little town is put on the map due to that event with thousands of visitors and travellers over the 5 day event. Open the field make designated resting places for the travellers with eminaties with a little police/council presents. Yes they might travel around in there nice caravans leave a mess as they dont have a rubbish collection ect. But at the same time these people are only human. Like all of us living there life the way they want. And I aint a traveller or have aby travelling relitives but admire there life they lead and the hardships they overcome
Are you for real?????
[quote][p][bold]kim2713[/bold] wrote: I think the locals should be welcoming this to the doorstep. And councils should be taking a more active role to help. If this goes ahead with the right help will boost local profits. I attend appleby every year and that little town is put on the map due to that event with thousands of visitors and travellers over the 5 day event. Open the field make designated resting places for the travellers with eminaties with a little police/council presents. Yes they might travel around in there nice caravans leave a mess as they dont have a rubbish collection ect. But at the same time these people are only human. Like all of us living there life the way they want. And I aint a traveller or have aby travelling relitives but admire there life they lead and the hardships they overcome[/p][/quote]Are you for real????? Copley23
  • Score: 42

9:55am Wed 6 Aug 14

1946BC says...

I do hope the police and DCC have the balls to be present at High Jobs Hill, before the bank holiday weekend when it is possible the travellers may start to arrive. The local public must be vigilant, if you see a wagon train approaching Crook followed by a scruffy looking set of marauders on horse-back I suggest you inform the local sheriff who will call out the cavalry.
I do hope the police and DCC have the balls to be present at High Jobs Hill, before the bank holiday weekend when it is possible the travellers may start to arrive. The local public must be vigilant, if you see a wagon train approaching Crook followed by a scruffy looking set of marauders on horse-back I suggest you inform the local sheriff who will call out the cavalry. 1946BC
  • Score: 15

1:12pm Wed 6 Aug 14

AMB_Gkar says...

Hardshipts...what like driving a BMW/AUDI etc? I like your leave a mess as they dont have rubbish collection. I think you will find most/all towns have a municipal tip.
Hardshipts...what like driving a BMW/AUDI etc? I like your leave a mess as they dont have rubbish collection. I think you will find most/all towns have a municipal tip. AMB_Gkar
  • Score: 19

2:29pm Wed 6 Aug 14

settheworldonfire says...

Deb1971 wrote:
On 15th July the travellers announced the fair was going ahead on their website . That's 2 weeks before it was leaked to the public that the council were considering it. The travellers are going to turn up regardless because the council aren't going to block the site entrance. Once again Dcc shows they don't give a flying f*ck about the people who pay their wages. Heads should roll over this. I was at the PACT meeting where the 2 council representatives lied through their teeth about it. But no doubt it will be forgotten about and the public will vote them in again.
Time for the people of Crook to blockade the entrance to that field.....If anyone sees a travelers vehicle or other words their caravans and horse and traps, then call the police straight away...The police have to stop them entering therefore resulting in peace and quiet for the residents of Hemlington Row and Crook....D.C.C stopping this though....MMMMMMMMMM
MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
[quote][p][bold]Deb1971[/bold] wrote: On 15th July the travellers announced the fair was going ahead on their website . That's 2 weeks before it was leaked to the public that the council were considering it. The travellers are going to turn up regardless because the council aren't going to block the site entrance. Once again Dcc shows they don't give a flying f*ck about the people who pay their wages. Heads should roll over this. I was at the PACT meeting where the 2 council representatives lied through their teeth about it. But no doubt it will be forgotten about and the public will vote them in again.[/p][/quote]Time for the people of Crook to blockade the entrance to that field.....If anyone sees a travelers vehicle or other words their caravans and horse and traps, then call the police straight away...The police have to stop them entering therefore resulting in peace and quiet for the residents of Hemlington Row and Crook....D.C.C stopping this though....MMMMMMMMMM MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM settheworldonfire
  • Score: 14

3:06pm Wed 6 Aug 14

studio says...

kim2713 wrote:
I think the locals should be welcoming this to the doorstep. And councils should be taking a more active role to help. If this goes ahead with the right help will boost local profits. I attend appleby every year and that little town is put on the map due to that event with thousands of visitors and travellers over the 5 day event. Open the field make designated resting places for the travellers with eminaties with a little police/council presents. Yes they might travel around in there nice caravans leave a mess as they dont have a rubbish collection ect. But at the same time these people are only human. Like all of us living there life the way they want. And I aint a traveller or have aby travelling relitives but admire there life they lead and the hardships they overcome
I`m assuming you must have spent Saturday in Redcar?

I cannot find one thing in your comment that i agree with. Utter utter rubbish.
[quote][p][bold]kim2713[/bold] wrote: I think the locals should be welcoming this to the doorstep. And councils should be taking a more active role to help. If this goes ahead with the right help will boost local profits. I attend appleby every year and that little town is put on the map due to that event with thousands of visitors and travellers over the 5 day event. Open the field make designated resting places for the travellers with eminaties with a little police/council presents. Yes they might travel around in there nice caravans leave a mess as they dont have a rubbish collection ect. But at the same time these people are only human. Like all of us living there life the way they want. And I aint a traveller or have aby travelling relitives but admire there life they lead and the hardships they overcome[/p][/quote]I`m assuming you must have spent Saturday in Redcar? I cannot find one thing in your comment that i agree with. Utter utter rubbish. studio
  • Score: 21

5:02pm Wed 6 Aug 14

darloboss says...

we should be more tolerant of our travelling friends shake hands and offer them soap and water they wont hang around too long
we should be more tolerant of our travelling friends shake hands and offer them soap and water they wont hang around too long darloboss
  • Score: 16

11:57pm Wed 6 Aug 14

carrievan says...

AMB _Gkar...last time I looked, Crooks municiple tip was closed..along with several others...no doubt DCC needed to save money in order to accomodate Travellers Horse Fairs....
AMB _Gkar...last time I looked, Crooks municiple tip was closed..along with several others...no doubt DCC needed to save money in order to accomodate Travellers Horse Fairs.... carrievan
  • Score: 1

12:00am Thu 7 Aug 14

carrievan says...

AMB-Gkar last time I looked Crooks municipal tip was closed, along with several others. DCC obviously needed the money for more important things, like organising Travellers Horse Fairs.
AMB-Gkar last time I looked Crooks municipal tip was closed, along with several others. DCC obviously needed the money for more important things, like organising Travellers Horse Fairs. carrievan
  • Score: -3

6:57am Thu 7 Aug 14

black&whitehorse says...

i **** it will be very nice to have a mooch about in the crook area we have heard everyone is so welcoming it could be a regular thing and might bring down the crime figures in darlington
i **** it will be very nice to have a mooch about in the crook area we have heard everyone is so welcoming it could be a regular thing and might bring down the crime figures in darlington black&whitehorse
  • Score: -3

7:02am Thu 7 Aug 14

whitevanandcaravanman says...

they tell me crook is a very nice place to live
they tell me crook is a very nice place to live whitevanandcaravanman
  • Score: 2

7:36am Thu 7 Aug 14

Hunty1 says...

http://www.ukcrimest
ats.com/Neighbourhoo
d/Durham_Constabular
y/Crook_Town

Enough said...
http://www.ukcrimest ats.com/Neighbourhoo d/Durham_Constabular y/Crook_Town Enough said... Hunty1
  • Score: 1

9:44am Thu 7 Aug 14

carrievan says...

IF YOU LIKE TAKEAWAY FOOD, AND HAVING YOUR HAIR DONE THEN YOU WILL LOVE CROOK THERES F##K
ALL ELSE THERE
IF YOU LIKE TAKEAWAY FOOD, AND HAVING YOUR HAIR DONE THEN YOU WILL LOVE CROOK THERES F##K ALL ELSE THERE carrievan
  • Score: 3

9:56am Thu 7 Aug 14

darloboss says...

to the people of crook and willington
its only for a long weekend or so and it will give us taxpayers from darlington a well needed respite from this tribe of scwm
to the people of crook and willington its only for a long weekend or so and it will give us taxpayers from darlington a well needed respite from this tribe of scwm darloboss
  • Score: 11

10:13am Thu 7 Aug 14

thetruthyoucanthandlethetruth says...

Seems the public have spoken - travelers are not welcome anywhere, which is perfectly understandable. They are nasty, horrible undesirables.

Ask yourself this...would you want them pitching up where you live?

Thought not
Seems the public have spoken - travelers are not welcome anywhere, which is perfectly understandable. They are nasty, horrible undesirables. Ask yourself this...would you want them pitching up where you live? Thought not thetruthyoucanthandlethetruth
  • Score: 22

10:32am Thu 7 Aug 14

carrievan says...

THEY HAVE MY SYMPATHY ITS LIKE BEING TOLD YOUR GOIN ON HOLIDAY AND PITCHING UP IN BLYTH . WILL BE THE ONLY PLACE ACTUALLY REJECTED BY TRAVELLERS
THEY HAVE MY SYMPATHY ITS LIKE BEING TOLD YOUR GOIN ON HOLIDAY AND PITCHING UP IN BLYTH . WILL BE THE ONLY PLACE ACTUALLY REJECTED BY TRAVELLERS carrievan
  • Score: 2

10:38am Thu 7 Aug 14

C R HUDSON says...

Everyone should be made to follow societies rules and regulations they were made to enable people to live with each other. There should NO exceptions whoever they are
Everyone should be made to follow societies rules and regulations they were made to enable people to live with each other. There should NO exceptions whoever they are C R HUDSON
  • Score: 11

11:03am Thu 7 Aug 14

carrievan says...

COME TO BISH VEGAS YOU WONT NEED YOUR VANS THERES ENOUGH EMPTY SHOPS HERE FOR ONE EACH
COME TO BISH VEGAS YOU WONT NEED YOUR VANS THERES ENOUGH EMPTY SHOPS HERE FOR ONE EACH carrievan
  • Score: 6

1:35pm Thu 7 Aug 14

Nosey P says...

As I type - the propsed site for the fair is being ploughed to prevent unlawful access.
Brilliant!
As I type - the propsed site for the fair is being ploughed to prevent unlawful access. Brilliant! Nosey P
  • Score: 13

3:23pm Thu 7 Aug 14

settheworldonfire says...

Nosey P wrote:
As I type - the propsed site for the fair is being ploughed to prevent unlawful access.
Brilliant!
Yippeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
e
[quote][p][bold]Nosey P[/bold] wrote: As I type - the propsed site for the fair is being ploughed to prevent unlawful access. Brilliant![/p][/quote]Yippeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee e settheworldonfire
  • Score: 9

3:28pm Thu 7 Aug 14

darloboss says...

better lock your garden gates then
better lock your garden gates then darloboss
  • Score: 7

3:36pm Thu 7 Aug 14

carrievan says...

Is good to see cpuncil has money for that then, pity that its got none to help out local businesses that are struggling to survive thanks to the out of town shopping centre. They should send some bulldozers as well, and just finish the job they started, to ruin the wear valley.
Is good to see cpuncil has money for that then, pity that its got none to help out local businesses that are struggling to survive thanks to the out of town shopping centre. They should send some bulldozers as well, and just finish the job they started, to ruin the wear valley. carrievan
  • Score: -5

6:09pm Thu 7 Aug 14

BigAl_01 says...

Good for Crook but it just means another community will suffer because the Council has failed to act to properly plan for an event that will definitely happen. Or maybe they are going to plough every empty field.
Good for Crook but it just means another community will suffer because the Council has failed to act to properly plan for an event that will definitely happen. Or maybe they are going to plough every empty field. BigAl_01
  • Score: 5

10:21pm Thu 7 Aug 14

settheworldonfire says...

oh...no...its going to Wolsingham show field area now.....Sorry Wolsingham...The place had better keep all gates locked....
oh...no...its going to Wolsingham show field area now.....Sorry Wolsingham...The place had better keep all gates locked.... settheworldonfire
  • Score: 8

10:43pm Fri 8 Aug 14

g10001 says...

Mmmmm not like the Echo to let anyone comment on this subject - Is the editor on holiday ?
Mmmmm not like the Echo to let anyone comment on this subject - Is the editor on holiday ? g10001
  • Score: 7

7:12am Sat 9 Aug 14

carrievan says...

Yes, hes gone to a horse fair somewhere in Wear Valley, not sure exactly where, but thanks to the council, neither are they!
Yes, hes gone to a horse fair somewhere in Wear Valley, not sure exactly where, but thanks to the council, neither are they! carrievan
  • Score: 3

7:45am Sat 9 Aug 14

A.Smith 71 says...

What do u lot know about travellers? Reading here n listening to u lot it is very little.
What do we get for free from society?
What don't we pay for?
The problem for u all is jealousy and if u like like livin in a settled community then that is fine, just don't put me and others like me down as thieving scum - if we look at the percentages then the settled community has the biggest % of thieves n scumbags! U have the most drugs messes n paedos, just cos we live in trailers n chalets we still have council tax n electric to pay, we still pay taxes as self employed n our cars are taxed tested n insured - we get stopped n checked more than anyone else (unless ur black).
Eddy has done all the council wanted him to do n let's be honest Crook is no picture postcard market town is it? I have only been 3 times and I know the place is already a dive full of druggies, thieves n muscras. The few pubs n shops cud probably do with bit extra trade. But I gues the fact a few of the pubs are owned by drug dealers they don't need the clean money from real people!
Well done people of Crook u have probably done us travellers a favour anyway.
What do u lot know about travellers? Reading here n listening to u lot it is very little. What do we get for free from society? What don't we pay for? The problem for u all is jealousy and if u like like livin in a settled community then that is fine, just don't put me and others like me down as thieving scum - if we look at the percentages then the settled community has the biggest % of thieves n scumbags! U have the most drugs messes n paedos, just cos we live in trailers n chalets we still have council tax n electric to pay, we still pay taxes as self employed n our cars are taxed tested n insured - we get stopped n checked more than anyone else (unless ur black). Eddy has done all the council wanted him to do n let's be honest Crook is no picture postcard market town is it? I have only been 3 times and I know the place is already a dive full of druggies, thieves n muscras. The few pubs n shops cud probably do with bit extra trade. But I gues the fact a few of the pubs are owned by drug dealers they don't need the clean money from real people! Well done people of Crook u have probably done us travellers a favour anyway. A.Smith 71
  • Score: -19

8:42am Sat 9 Aug 14

Nosey P says...

A.Smith 71 wrote:
What do u lot know about travellers? Reading here n listening to u lot it is very little.
What do we get for free from society?
What don't we pay for?
The problem for u all is jealousy and if u like like livin in a settled community then that is fine, just don't put me and others like me down as thieving scum - if we look at the percentages then the settled community has the biggest % of thieves n scumbags! U have the most drugs messes n paedos, just cos we live in trailers n chalets we still have council tax n electric to pay, we still pay taxes as self employed n our cars are taxed tested n insured - we get stopped n checked more than anyone else (unless ur black).
Eddy has done all the council wanted him to do n let's be honest Crook is no picture postcard market town is it? I have only been 3 times and I know the place is already a dive full of druggies, thieves n muscras. The few pubs n shops cud probably do with bit extra trade. But I gues the fact a few of the pubs are owned by drug dealers they don't need the clean money from real people!
Well done people of Crook u have probably done us travellers a favour anyway.
You are right A.Smith71, you would not have liked Crook - be sure to tell all your friends
[quote][p][bold]A.Smith 71[/bold] wrote: What do u lot know about travellers? Reading here n listening to u lot it is very little. What do we get for free from society? What don't we pay for? The problem for u all is jealousy and if u like like livin in a settled community then that is fine, just don't put me and others like me down as thieving scum - if we look at the percentages then the settled community has the biggest % of thieves n scumbags! U have the most drugs messes n paedos, just cos we live in trailers n chalets we still have council tax n electric to pay, we still pay taxes as self employed n our cars are taxed tested n insured - we get stopped n checked more than anyone else (unless ur black). Eddy has done all the council wanted him to do n let's be honest Crook is no picture postcard market town is it? I have only been 3 times and I know the place is already a dive full of druggies, thieves n muscras. The few pubs n shops cud probably do with bit extra trade. But I gues the fact a few of the pubs are owned by drug dealers they don't need the clean money from real people! Well done people of Crook u have probably done us travellers a favour anyway.[/p][/quote]You are right A.Smith71, you would not have liked Crook - be sure to tell all your friends Nosey P
  • Score: 11

11:13am Sat 9 Aug 14

BigAl_01 says...

All the arguments about whether travellers are good or bad are irrelevant. The fact is, the are here and they are going to have a fair so the real issue is what are the Council and the Police doing about it. They either need to support the right for it to take place and ensure it is properly planned for and controlled or, if the think history proves that it is too problematic, they should be doing everything they can to stop it happening. However, in reality they are just sticking their heads in the sand and hoping it will go away.
All the arguments about whether travellers are good or bad are irrelevant. The fact is, the are here and they are going to have a fair so the real issue is what are the Council and the Police doing about it. They either need to support the right for it to take place and ensure it is properly planned for and controlled or, if the think history proves that it is too problematic, they should be doing everything they can to stop it happening. However, in reality they are just sticking their heads in the sand and hoping it will go away. BigAl_01
  • Score: 4

11:21pm Sat 9 Aug 14

g10001 says...

1946BC wrote:
I do hope the police and DCC have the balls to be present at High Jobs Hill, before the bank holiday weekend when it is possible the travellers may start to arrive. The local public must be vigilant, if you see a wagon train approaching Crook followed by a scruffy looking set of marauders on horse-back I suggest you inform the local sheriff who will call out the cavalry.
if they are anything like Darlington council Im afraid the sheriff and the cavalry will have turned tail and ran !
[quote][p][bold]1946BC[/bold] wrote: I do hope the police and DCC have the balls to be present at High Jobs Hill, before the bank holiday weekend when it is possible the travellers may start to arrive. The local public must be vigilant, if you see a wagon train approaching Crook followed by a scruffy looking set of marauders on horse-back I suggest you inform the local sheriff who will call out the cavalry.[/p][/quote]if they are anything like Darlington council Im afraid the sheriff and the cavalry will have turned tail and ran ! g10001
  • Score: 5

11:21pm Sat 9 Aug 14

g10001 says...

1946BC wrote:
I do hope the police and DCC have the balls to be present at High Jobs Hill, before the bank holiday weekend when it is possible the travellers may start to arrive. The local public must be vigilant, if you see a wagon train approaching Crook followed by a scruffy looking set of marauders on horse-back I suggest you inform the local sheriff who will call out the cavalry.
if they are anything like Darlington council Im afraid the sheriff and the cavalry will have turned tail and ran !
[quote][p][bold]1946BC[/bold] wrote: I do hope the police and DCC have the balls to be present at High Jobs Hill, before the bank holiday weekend when it is possible the travellers may start to arrive. The local public must be vigilant, if you see a wagon train approaching Crook followed by a scruffy looking set of marauders on horse-back I suggest you inform the local sheriff who will call out the cavalry.[/p][/quote]if they are anything like Darlington council Im afraid the sheriff and the cavalry will have turned tail and ran ! g10001
  • Score: 2

11:23pm Sat 9 Aug 14

g10001 says...

if they are anything like Darlington council Im afraid the sheriff and the cavalry will have turned tail and ran !
if they are anything like Darlington council Im afraid the sheriff and the cavalry will have turned tail and ran ! g10001
  • Score: 1

11:46pm Sat 9 Aug 14

carrievan says...

A.Smith71, maybe you are mostly tax paying, law abiding,citizens, but unfortunately the minority who are not, and who do steal ,and leave places lookin like the Gaza strip give you all a bad name...so why don't the decent ones take the not so decent ones to task...nobody would object to these things if places were left clean after them, and you didn't have to nail your doors shut....every year hundreds of hells angels and hairy bikers come to visit...and you could eat your tea off the ground after theyve left...its not rocket science...sort out the wrong,uns...and you would be welcome anywhere in the country. And your right about Crook, it is ****, come to Bishop, its **** as well but we've got more pubs still open.
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A.Smith71, maybe you are mostly tax paying, law abiding,citizens, but unfortunately the minority who are not, and who do steal ,and leave places lookin like the Gaza strip give you all a bad name...so why don't the decent ones take the not so decent ones to task...nobody would object to these things if places were left clean after them, and you didn't have to nail your doors shut....every year hundreds of hells angels and hairy bikers come to visit...and you could eat your tea off the ground after theyve left...its not rocket science...sort out the wrong,uns...and you would be welcome anywhere in the country. And your right about Crook, it is ****, come to Bishop, its **** as well but we've got more pubs still open. . carrievan
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6:53pm Tue 12 Aug 14

kristal27 says...

A.Smith 71 wrote:
What do u lot know about travellers? Reading here n listening to u lot it is very little.
What do we get for free from society?
What don't we pay for?
The problem for u all is jealousy and if u like like livin in a settled community then that is fine, just don't put me and others like me down as thieving scum - if we look at the percentages then the settled community has the biggest % of thieves n scumbags! U have the most drugs messes n paedos, just cos we live in trailers n chalets we still have council tax n electric to pay, we still pay taxes as self employed n our cars are taxed tested n insured - we get stopped n checked more than anyone else (unless ur black).
Eddy has done all the council wanted him to do n let's be honest Crook is no picture postcard market town is it? I have only been 3 times and I know the place is already a dive full of druggies, thieves n muscras. The few pubs n shops cud probably do with bit extra trade. But I gues the fact a few of the pubs are owned by drug dealers they don't need the clean money from real people!
Well done people of Crook u have probably done us travellers a favour anyway.
good grief you can read and write -amazing -can you give billy boy the gypsy king a few lessons -or are you dictating your posts to your wife? What don't you pay for? -anything that's not tied down mate. I nearly choked o nmy dinner when i read you pay road tax and insurance...this is a wind up it must be
[quote][p][bold]A.Smith 71[/bold] wrote: What do u lot know about travellers? Reading here n listening to u lot it is very little. What do we get for free from society? What don't we pay for? The problem for u all is jealousy and if u like like livin in a settled community then that is fine, just don't put me and others like me down as thieving scum - if we look at the percentages then the settled community has the biggest % of thieves n scumbags! U have the most drugs messes n paedos, just cos we live in trailers n chalets we still have council tax n electric to pay, we still pay taxes as self employed n our cars are taxed tested n insured - we get stopped n checked more than anyone else (unless ur black). Eddy has done all the council wanted him to do n let's be honest Crook is no picture postcard market town is it? I have only been 3 times and I know the place is already a dive full of druggies, thieves n muscras. The few pubs n shops cud probably do with bit extra trade. But I gues the fact a few of the pubs are owned by drug dealers they don't need the clean money from real people! Well done people of Crook u have probably done us travellers a favour anyway.[/p][/quote]good grief you can read and write -amazing -can you give billy boy the gypsy king a few lessons -or are you dictating your posts to your wife? What don't you pay for? -anything that's not tied down mate. I nearly choked o nmy dinner when i read you pay road tax and insurance...this is a wind up it must be kristal27
  • Score: 7

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