Nigel Farage comes to town to spread his free trade and patriotism messages

Nigel Farage meets supporter Tommy Oliver in Yarm

Nigel Farage meets supporter Tommy Oliver in Yarm

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NIGEL Farage came to the region today to spread the Ukip message ahead of next month’s European Union elections. Chris Webber shared a pint with him in a Yarm pub.

NIGEL Farage made no secret of his Thatcherite message in the heart of a region where the former Conservative Prime Minister is demonised.

The Ukip party leader visited Yarm ahead of a public meeting in Gateshead where hundreds of protesters had gathered to challenge Mr Farage’s anti-European Union and anti-immigration message.

Even before he arrived, he was in the news for employing his German wife instead of a UK national and attracted a very large media scrum, including a Danish film crew who were following his every move.

But Mr Farage still took time out to talk to The Northern Echo over a pint of real ale, called Proper Job, in Yarm’s Black Bull pub.

The Northern Echo:

Questioned about his Thatcherite beliefs in a region where umemployment rose during the 1980s, when Lady Thatcher was Prime Minister, Mr Farage said: “I supported those (Thatcherite) reforms, yes. I think we had to get the relationship between business and the unions right. If we hadn’t, Nissan wouldn’t have come here.

“We are a party that errs towards the free market, that errs toward the small state, that errs towards free trade.”

Asked about job creation and the decline in heavy industry at the height of Thatcherism in the 1980s Mr Farage argued that cheaper energy for manufacturing firms was partly the answer to help the industry in future. The European Union (EU)’s “insane environmentalism subscribed too almost as a religion by the other political parties” was making UK firms uncompetitive.

The Northern Echo:

He said Ukip could “directly take on the Labour Party” in a region that has often heavily voted Labour in the past because the Labour Party “no longer represents the interests of working-class people” and Ukip had a strong appeal in the region on issues of identity.

“Not everything is about economics,” he said. “What is fascinating about the North-East is, our polls show it is the most patriotic part of the country. I don’t know why but it is also the most Eurosceptic part of England.”

Earlier, Mr Farage was forced to defend the decision to employ his German wife at the same time as launching a poster campaign warning that unemployed Europeans were ''after'' people's jobs in this country. An employment agency had issued a fake advert for a similar role on its website attracted 764 applications in just 12 hours, 649 of them from UK nationals.

The Northern Echo:

Mr Farage said: “She joined the party six years ago. I really, really don’t get this.” Nobody else could do that job,  she was earning a very modest salary for working extremely unsociable hours for me and being available up to seven days a week."

His message appeared to go down well on Yarm High Street. One man, Tommy Oliver, shook Mr Farage’s hand. “I support Ukip because it’s not our country any more,” said Mr Oliver, of nearby Stockton. “It’s not racist to say there’s too many immigrants.”

The Ukip leader, who had already had a pint and lunch at the Fox Covert pub just outside the town, also used his charm while spending £5.63 buying sausages and bacon in Yarm Butchers. He was served by Callum Murray, 26, who afterwards said he didn’t vote in the last election “but I think I might vote Ukip next time”.

The Northern Echo:

Mr Farage dismissed campaigners planning to protest outside his public meeting at The Sage in Gateshead, as “a mixture of all sorts, we’ve got the English Defence League to animal rights protesters and goodness knows who. They’ll probably attack each other before me.”

Noting there were three Ukip candidates standing in a by-election to Yarm Town Council tomorrow,  he said: “I don’t know what the result will be, but the Yarm election will be a very good litmus test for the party.”

Other candidates in the by-election, include the Yarm Residents Association, which has won the support of James Wharton, Conservative MP for Stockton South, in the absence of any Conservative candidates, and two Yarm Independents who say politics should be local.

Meanwhile Mr Farage, who had a much bigger media following than leader of the Labour Party, Ed Milliband attracted on a visit to Stockton last October, said he “had fallen in the love with the region...I don’t want to leave".

* The Northern Echo will be interviewing politicians from all major parties ahead of the European elections on Thursday, May 22.

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8:40pm Wed 23 Apr 14

MSG says...

I hope the UKIP candidates do well in the local election in Yarm. I think a lot of white working class people will desert the LIBLABCON and vote UKIP in the Euro elections. Roll on May 22nd.
I hope the UKIP candidates do well in the local election in Yarm. I think a lot of white working class people will desert the LIBLABCON and vote UKIP in the Euro elections. Roll on May 22nd. MSG
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11:03pm Wed 23 Apr 14

oxbridge says...

His message appeared to go down well on Yarm High Street. One man, Tommy Oliver, shook Mr Farage’s hand. “I support Ukip because it’s not our country any more,” said Mr Oliver, of nearby Stockton. “It’s not racist to say there’s too many immigrants.”

Say's Tommy out in his vest in Yarm high street, what a fine example of a Stockton man I bet the media had a field day.
His message appeared to go down well on Yarm High Street. One man, Tommy Oliver, shook Mr Farage’s hand. “I support Ukip because it’s not our country any more,” said Mr Oliver, of nearby Stockton. “It’s not racist to say there’s too many immigrants.” Say's Tommy out in his vest in Yarm high street, what a fine example of a Stockton man I bet the media had a field day. oxbridge
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1:06am Thu 24 Apr 14

John Durham says...

MSG wrote:
I hope the UKIP candidates do well in the local election in Yarm. I think a lot of white working class people will desert the LIBLABCON and vote UKIP in the Euro elections. Roll on May 22nd.
Its not racist to say there are too many immigrants but its very telling that MSG above feels the need to mention attracting 'white' working class people to voting UKIP.
[quote][p][bold]MSG[/bold] wrote: I hope the UKIP candidates do well in the local election in Yarm. I think a lot of white working class people will desert the LIBLABCON and vote UKIP in the Euro elections. Roll on May 22nd.[/p][/quote]Its not racist to say there are too many immigrants but its very telling that MSG above feels the need to mention attracting 'white' working class people to voting UKIP. John Durham
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7:47am Thu 24 Apr 14

Chippy70 says...

I havent got much longer on this 3rd rock from the sun and I only really worry now for my son and future generations in our country. I would like to see mass immigration stopped mainly because this is not a huge country and I believe it is becoming over populated. I am finding now that people all too readily attach the "racist" flag to anyone or anything. I dont care any more, people can call me racist or whatever they like, I just dont care any more. Everywhere I look now both in this country and around the world people seem soo angry and unhappy. Sometimes I think we are loosing the love of life itself. Its all greed, greed, greed and something for nothing. Lets try to get the running and the ruling of our small country back to our rule and our laws.. After all we seemed to manage ok in the past.
I havent got much longer on this 3rd rock from the sun and I only really worry now for my son and future generations in our country. I would like to see mass immigration stopped mainly because this is not a huge country and I believe it is becoming over populated. I am finding now that people all too readily attach the "racist" flag to anyone or anything. I dont care any more, people can call me racist or whatever they like, I just dont care any more. Everywhere I look now both in this country and around the world people seem soo angry and unhappy. Sometimes I think we are loosing the love of life itself. Its all greed, greed, greed and something for nothing. Lets try to get the running and the ruling of our small country back to our rule and our laws.. After all we seemed to manage ok in the past. Chippy70
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8:43am Thu 24 Apr 14

Ally F says...

Not quite the photo-shoot Nigel wanted splashed in the press....
Not quite the photo-shoot Nigel wanted splashed in the press.... Ally F
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8:54am Thu 24 Apr 14

studio says...

Tommy in his vest... Welcome to the north east Mr Farage! Surely this photo was set up? Im presuming Tommy`s Whippet and pigeons were out of shot?
Tommy in his vest... Welcome to the north east Mr Farage! Surely this photo was set up? Im presuming Tommy`s Whippet and pigeons were out of shot? studio
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9:14am Thu 24 Apr 14

Traser says...

UKIP wants to scrap paid maternity leave, sick pay, redundancy pay.

EU Working Time Directive entitles workers to 28 days PAID holiday per year. UKIP wants to remove this EU protection for UK workers.

UKIP are clearly not the party of the working men and women of the North East.

UKIP's attack on immigration fails to take into account that 30% of doctors are foreign born. 40% of nurses are foreign born. If UKIP has its way then the NHS will fall apart.

South Tees and North Tees and Hartlepool NHS Trusts are carrying 80 unfilled nursing posts. They are going to have to resort to employing Spanish nurses. Does UKIP really want to leave the people of Teesside without healthcare protection?

UKIP's policy of introducing a flat rate of tax and relying on VAT will penalise low paid people most of all.

UKIP is not your party!
UKIP wants to scrap paid maternity leave, sick pay, redundancy pay. EU Working Time Directive entitles workers to 28 days PAID holiday per year. UKIP wants to remove this EU protection for UK workers. UKIP are clearly not the party of the working men and women of the North East. UKIP's attack on immigration fails to take into account that 30% of doctors are foreign born. 40% of nurses are foreign born. If UKIP has its way then the NHS will fall apart. South Tees and North Tees and Hartlepool NHS Trusts are carrying 80 unfilled nursing posts. They are going to have to resort to employing Spanish nurses. Does UKIP really want to leave the people of Teesside without healthcare protection? UKIP's policy of introducing a flat rate of tax and relying on VAT will penalise low paid people most of all. UKIP is not your party! Traser
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9:37am Thu 24 Apr 14

behonest says...

Ally F wrote:
Not quite the photo-shoot Nigel wanted splashed in the press....
Which is exactly why the anti-UKIP mainstream media have splashed it in the press!
[quote][p][bold]Ally F[/bold] wrote: Not quite the photo-shoot Nigel wanted splashed in the press....[/p][/quote]Which is exactly why the anti-UKIP mainstream media have splashed it in the press! behonest
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9:42am Thu 24 Apr 14

behonest says...

Traser wrote:
UKIP wants to scrap paid maternity leave, sick pay, redundancy pay. EU Working Time Directive entitles workers to 28 days PAID holiday per year. UKIP wants to remove this EU protection for UK workers. UKIP are clearly not the party of the working men and women of the North East. UKIP's attack on immigration fails to take into account that 30% of doctors are foreign born. 40% of nurses are foreign born. If UKIP has its way then the NHS will fall apart. South Tees and North Tees and Hartlepool NHS Trusts are carrying 80 unfilled nursing posts. They are going to have to resort to employing Spanish nurses. Does UKIP really want to leave the people of Teesside without healthcare protection? UKIP's policy of introducing a flat rate of tax and relying on VAT will penalise low paid people most of all. UKIP is not your party!
More anti-UKIP scaremongering comments. I hope people ignore the constant smears and lies, and vote UKIP!
[quote][p][bold]Traser[/bold] wrote: UKIP wants to scrap paid maternity leave, sick pay, redundancy pay. EU Working Time Directive entitles workers to 28 days PAID holiday per year. UKIP wants to remove this EU protection for UK workers. UKIP are clearly not the party of the working men and women of the North East. UKIP's attack on immigration fails to take into account that 30% of doctors are foreign born. 40% of nurses are foreign born. If UKIP has its way then the NHS will fall apart. South Tees and North Tees and Hartlepool NHS Trusts are carrying 80 unfilled nursing posts. They are going to have to resort to employing Spanish nurses. Does UKIP really want to leave the people of Teesside without healthcare protection? UKIP's policy of introducing a flat rate of tax and relying on VAT will penalise low paid people most of all. UKIP is not your party![/p][/quote]More anti-UKIP scaremongering comments. I hope people ignore the constant smears and lies, and vote UKIP! behonest
  • Score: 2

9:59am Thu 24 Apr 14

Lawman3 says...

behonest wrote:
Traser wrote: UKIP wants to scrap paid maternity leave, sick pay, redundancy pay. EU Working Time Directive entitles workers to 28 days PAID holiday per year. UKIP wants to remove this EU protection for UK workers. UKIP are clearly not the party of the working men and women of the North East. UKIP's attack on immigration fails to take into account that 30% of doctors are foreign born. 40% of nurses are foreign born. If UKIP has its way then the NHS will fall apart. South Tees and North Tees and Hartlepool NHS Trusts are carrying 80 unfilled nursing posts. They are going to have to resort to employing Spanish nurses. Does UKIP really want to leave the people of Teesside without healthcare protection? UKIP's policy of introducing a flat rate of tax and relying on VAT will penalise low paid people most of all. UKIP is not your party!
More anti-UKIP scaremongering comments. I hope people ignore the constant smears and lies, and vote UKIP!
Don't you mean that you hope people will ignore the facts, and be seduced by the populist rhetoric? Once people realise what UKIP actually stand for, they will run a mile.
[quote][p][bold]behonest[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Traser[/bold] wrote: UKIP wants to scrap paid maternity leave, sick pay, redundancy pay. EU Working Time Directive entitles workers to 28 days PAID holiday per year. UKIP wants to remove this EU protection for UK workers. UKIP are clearly not the party of the working men and women of the North East. UKIP's attack on immigration fails to take into account that 30% of doctors are foreign born. 40% of nurses are foreign born. If UKIP has its way then the NHS will fall apart. South Tees and North Tees and Hartlepool NHS Trusts are carrying 80 unfilled nursing posts. They are going to have to resort to employing Spanish nurses. Does UKIP really want to leave the people of Teesside without healthcare protection? UKIP's policy of introducing a flat rate of tax and relying on VAT will penalise low paid people most of all. UKIP is not your party![/p][/quote]More anti-UKIP scaremongering comments. I hope people ignore the constant smears and lies, and vote UKIP![/p][/quote]Don't you mean that you hope people will ignore the facts, and be seduced by the populist rhetoric? Once people realise what UKIP actually stand for, they will run a mile. Lawman3
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10:21am Thu 24 Apr 14

Traser says...

behonest wrote:
Traser wrote: UKIP wants to scrap paid maternity leave, sick pay, redundancy pay. EU Working Time Directive entitles workers to 28 days PAID holiday per year. UKIP wants to remove this EU protection for UK workers. UKIP are clearly not the party of the working men and women of the North East. UKIP's attack on immigration fails to take into account that 30% of doctors are foreign born. 40% of nurses are foreign born. If UKIP has its way then the NHS will fall apart. South Tees and North Tees and Hartlepool NHS Trusts are carrying 80 unfilled nursing posts. They are going to have to resort to employing Spanish nurses. Does UKIP really want to leave the people of Teesside without healthcare protection? UKIP's policy of introducing a flat rate of tax and relying on VAT will penalise low paid people most of all. UKIP is not your party!
More anti-UKIP scaremongering comments. I hope people ignore the constant smears and lies, and vote UKIP!
Behonest

Refer to UKIP's own website

Their anti-working people policies are detailed there.
[quote][p][bold]behonest[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Traser[/bold] wrote: UKIP wants to scrap paid maternity leave, sick pay, redundancy pay. EU Working Time Directive entitles workers to 28 days PAID holiday per year. UKIP wants to remove this EU protection for UK workers. UKIP are clearly not the party of the working men and women of the North East. UKIP's attack on immigration fails to take into account that 30% of doctors are foreign born. 40% of nurses are foreign born. If UKIP has its way then the NHS will fall apart. South Tees and North Tees and Hartlepool NHS Trusts are carrying 80 unfilled nursing posts. They are going to have to resort to employing Spanish nurses. Does UKIP really want to leave the people of Teesside without healthcare protection? UKIP's policy of introducing a flat rate of tax and relying on VAT will penalise low paid people most of all. UKIP is not your party![/p][/quote]More anti-UKIP scaremongering comments. I hope people ignore the constant smears and lies, and vote UKIP![/p][/quote]Behonest Refer to UKIP's own website Their anti-working people policies are detailed there. Traser
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12:11pm Thu 24 Apr 14

behonest says...

Traser wrote:
behonest wrote:
Traser wrote: UKIP wants to scrap paid maternity leave, sick pay, redundancy pay. EU Working Time Directive entitles workers to 28 days PAID holiday per year. UKIP wants to remove this EU protection for UK workers. UKIP are clearly not the party of the working men and women of the North East. UKIP's attack on immigration fails to take into account that 30% of doctors are foreign born. 40% of nurses are foreign born. If UKIP has its way then the NHS will fall apart. South Tees and North Tees and Hartlepool NHS Trusts are carrying 80 unfilled nursing posts. They are going to have to resort to employing Spanish nurses. Does UKIP really want to leave the people of Teesside without healthcare protection? UKIP's policy of introducing a flat rate of tax and relying on VAT will penalise low paid people most of all. UKIP is not your party!
More anti-UKIP scaremongering comments. I hope people ignore the constant smears and lies, and vote UKIP!
Behonest

Refer to UKIP's own website

Their anti-working people policies are detailed there.
I've looked at the UKIP website and nowhere does it say that they are 'anti-working people'. So this is another anti-UKIP smear attempt.
[quote][p][bold]Traser[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]behonest[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Traser[/bold] wrote: UKIP wants to scrap paid maternity leave, sick pay, redundancy pay. EU Working Time Directive entitles workers to 28 days PAID holiday per year. UKIP wants to remove this EU protection for UK workers. UKIP are clearly not the party of the working men and women of the North East. UKIP's attack on immigration fails to take into account that 30% of doctors are foreign born. 40% of nurses are foreign born. If UKIP has its way then the NHS will fall apart. South Tees and North Tees and Hartlepool NHS Trusts are carrying 80 unfilled nursing posts. They are going to have to resort to employing Spanish nurses. Does UKIP really want to leave the people of Teesside without healthcare protection? UKIP's policy of introducing a flat rate of tax and relying on VAT will penalise low paid people most of all. UKIP is not your party![/p][/quote]More anti-UKIP scaremongering comments. I hope people ignore the constant smears and lies, and vote UKIP![/p][/quote]Behonest Refer to UKIP's own website Their anti-working people policies are detailed there.[/p][/quote]I've looked at the UKIP website and nowhere does it say that they are 'anti-working people'. So this is another anti-UKIP smear attempt. behonest
  • Score: 2

12:25pm Thu 24 Apr 14

bambara says...

"NIGEL Farage made no secret of his Thatcherite message "

Farage is a Thatcherite, a neo-tory even further to the sociopathic right wing than the current bunch of old etonians.

So far he has split the Tory votes, appealing to the right wing of the Tory party, and soaked up votes from the BNP.
The horrible fear is that his xenophobic rhetoric may fool enough people to stop them seeing the right wing plicies behind the spin, and he may get enough votes to gain some level of power.
Now that would be a disaster for the UK.
"NIGEL Farage made no secret of his Thatcherite message " Farage is a Thatcherite, a neo-tory even further to the sociopathic right wing than the current bunch of old etonians. So far he has split the Tory votes, appealing to the right wing of the Tory party, and soaked up votes from the BNP. The horrible fear is that his xenophobic rhetoric may fool enough people to stop them seeing the right wing plicies behind the spin, and he may get enough votes to gain some level of power. Now that would be a disaster for the UK. bambara
  • Score: 1

1:01pm Thu 24 Apr 14

The Grim North says...

Traser wrote:
UKIP wants to scrap paid maternity leave, sick pay, redundancy pay. EU Working Time Directive entitles workers to 28 days PAID holiday per year. UKIP wants to remove this EU protection for UK workers. UKIP are clearly not the party of the working men and women of the North East. UKIP's attack on immigration fails to take into account that 30% of doctors are foreign born. 40% of nurses are foreign born. If UKIP has its way then the NHS will fall apart. South Tees and North Tees and Hartlepool NHS Trusts are carrying 80 unfilled nursing posts. They are going to have to resort to employing Spanish nurses. Does UKIP really want to leave the people of Teesside without healthcare protection? UKIP's policy of introducing a flat rate of tax and relying on VAT will penalise low paid people most of all. UKIP is not your party!
What is the point of paid maternity leave, sick pay, redundancy pay etc if you dont have a job in the first place. Have you visited Greece or Spain recently ?

All the working time directive does is cap your wages, thankfully both labour and the Tories have so far maintained our opt out. Europe is going down the pan due to the incompetent left wing idiots (mainly former communists)running the EU.

A shortage of british born NHS staff could have been solved by successive governments if they had a bit of forward planning and trained more doctors and nurses (and not encouraged people to live on benefits and waste their time at school and Uni doing soft subjects rather than learning useful money earning skills). We employ workers from other countires largely because we can rather than we need to. UKIP have no intention of kicking people out of the UK as they have no desire to apply laws retrospectively and they also have no objection to immigration as long as it is controlled. All very reasonable in my view. We might need surgeons but we dont need unskilled labourers.

VAT is an EU tax, with a MINIMUM level set by the EU and we already rely on it. There is also strong evidence that a flat rate tax will increase revenue. At least UK are seriously looking at tax reform.
[quote][p][bold]Traser[/bold] wrote: UKIP wants to scrap paid maternity leave, sick pay, redundancy pay. EU Working Time Directive entitles workers to 28 days PAID holiday per year. UKIP wants to remove this EU protection for UK workers. UKIP are clearly not the party of the working men and women of the North East. UKIP's attack on immigration fails to take into account that 30% of doctors are foreign born. 40% of nurses are foreign born. If UKIP has its way then the NHS will fall apart. South Tees and North Tees and Hartlepool NHS Trusts are carrying 80 unfilled nursing posts. They are going to have to resort to employing Spanish nurses. Does UKIP really want to leave the people of Teesside without healthcare protection? UKIP's policy of introducing a flat rate of tax and relying on VAT will penalise low paid people most of all. UKIP is not your party![/p][/quote]What is the point of paid maternity leave, sick pay, redundancy pay etc if you dont have a job in the first place. Have you visited Greece or Spain recently ? All the working time directive does is cap your wages, thankfully both labour and the Tories have so far maintained our opt out. Europe is going down the pan due to the incompetent left wing idiots (mainly former communists)running the EU. A shortage of british born NHS staff could have been solved by successive governments if they had a bit of forward planning and trained more doctors and nurses (and not encouraged people to live on benefits and waste their time at school and Uni doing soft subjects rather than learning useful money earning skills). We employ workers from other countires largely because we can rather than we need to. UKIP have no intention of kicking people out of the UK as they have no desire to apply laws retrospectively and they also have no objection to immigration as long as it is controlled. All very reasonable in my view. We might need surgeons but we dont need unskilled labourers. VAT is an EU tax, with a MINIMUM level set by the EU and we already rely on it. There is also strong evidence that a flat rate tax will increase revenue. At least UK are seriously looking at tax reform. The Grim North
  • Score: -1

1:22pm Thu 24 Apr 14

behonest says...

bambara wrote:
"NIGEL Farage made no secret of his Thatcherite message " Farage is a Thatcherite, a neo-tory even further to the sociopathic right wing than the current bunch of old etonians. So far he has split the Tory votes, appealing to the right wing of the Tory party, and soaked up votes from the BNP. The horrible fear is that his xenophobic rhetoric may fool enough people to stop them seeing the right wing plicies behind the spin, and he may get enough votes to gain some level of power. Now that would be a disaster for the UK.
It's possible that an even bigger disaster faces the UK next year - the return of a Labour government.

And I don't hear any 'xenophobic rhetoric' coming from Farage, just a plea for a sensible, well-managed immigration policy that, most importantly, benefits the UK.
[quote][p][bold]bambara[/bold] wrote: "NIGEL Farage made no secret of his Thatcherite message " Farage is a Thatcherite, a neo-tory even further to the sociopathic right wing than the current bunch of old etonians. So far he has split the Tory votes, appealing to the right wing of the Tory party, and soaked up votes from the BNP. The horrible fear is that his xenophobic rhetoric may fool enough people to stop them seeing the right wing plicies behind the spin, and he may get enough votes to gain some level of power. Now that would be a disaster for the UK.[/p][/quote]It's possible that an even bigger disaster faces the UK next year - the return of a Labour government. And I don't hear any 'xenophobic rhetoric' coming from Farage, just a plea for a sensible, well-managed immigration policy that, most importantly, benefits the UK. behonest
  • Score: 3

7:18pm Thu 24 Apr 14

Traser says...

"GRIM NORTH WROTE: What is the point of paid maternity leave, sick pay, redundancy pay etc if you dont have a job in the first place. Have you visited Greece or Spain recently ?

All the working time directive does is cap your wages, thankfully both labour and the Tories have so far maintained our opt out. Europe is going down the pan due to the incompetent left wing idiots (mainly former communists)running the EU.

A shortage of british born NHS staff could have been solved by successive governments if they had a bit of forward planning and trained more doctors and nurses (and not encouraged people to live on benefits and waste their time at school and Uni doing soft subjects rather than learning useful money earning skills). We employ workers from other countires largely because we can rather than we need to. UKIP have no intention of kicking people out of the UK as they have no desire to apply laws retrospectively and they also have no objection to immigration as long as it is controlled. All very reasonable in my view. We might need surgeons but we dont need unskilled labourers.

VAT is an EU tax, with a MINIMUM level set by the EU and we already rely on it. There is also strong evidence that a flat rate tax will increase revenue. At least UK are seriously looking at tax reform."

You will find sick pay is VERY important to a UK worker who suffers from cancer or an age related illness. This is much more likely now that state pension age is extended to 68.

Contrary to your assertion that "All the working time directive does is cap your wages" the WTD provides valuable protection to workers in the UK. Employers don't give paid holiday out of the goodness of their hearts...........

Why do you say that Labour and Tories maintained an opt out from the WTD. Last time I looked, it is still enforceable in Employment Tribunals in the UK: the right to paid holiday pay especially.

You will find that the UK is training more than enough doctors and nurses. Teesside Uni offers a top quality nursing degree. The fact of the matter is that people working in public services are treated so abominably by the Tories and by the likes of UKIP that they are leaving the profession and emigrating abroad.

"VAT is an EU tax"? That must be why the Tories increased it to 17.5%

UKIP believes in everyone paying a flat rate of tax: the rich pay less proportionately whilst those on lower incomes pay more.

UKIP supports the privatisation of the NHS and that people should be allowed to pay to jump queues. This would be the end of the NHS as we know it.
"GRIM NORTH WROTE: What is the point of paid maternity leave, sick pay, redundancy pay etc if you dont have a job in the first place. Have you visited Greece or Spain recently ? All the working time directive does is cap your wages, thankfully both labour and the Tories have so far maintained our opt out. Europe is going down the pan due to the incompetent left wing idiots (mainly former communists)running the EU. A shortage of british born NHS staff could have been solved by successive governments if they had a bit of forward planning and trained more doctors and nurses (and not encouraged people to live on benefits and waste their time at school and Uni doing soft subjects rather than learning useful money earning skills). We employ workers from other countires largely because we can rather than we need to. UKIP have no intention of kicking people out of the UK as they have no desire to apply laws retrospectively and they also have no objection to immigration as long as it is controlled. All very reasonable in my view. We might need surgeons but we dont need unskilled labourers. VAT is an EU tax, with a MINIMUM level set by the EU and we already rely on it. There is also strong evidence that a flat rate tax will increase revenue. At least UK are seriously looking at tax reform." You will find sick pay is VERY important to a UK worker who suffers from cancer or an age related illness. This is much more likely now that state pension age is extended to 68. Contrary to your assertion that "All the working time directive does is cap your wages" the WTD provides valuable protection to workers in the UK. Employers don't give paid holiday out of the goodness of their hearts........... Why do you say that Labour and Tories maintained an opt out from the WTD. Last time I looked, it is still enforceable in Employment Tribunals in the UK: the right to paid holiday pay especially. You will find that the UK is training more than enough doctors and nurses. Teesside Uni offers a top quality nursing degree. The fact of the matter is that people working in public services are treated so abominably by the Tories and by the likes of UKIP that they are leaving the profession and emigrating abroad. "VAT is an EU tax"? That must be why the Tories increased it to 17.5% UKIP believes in everyone paying a flat rate of tax: the rich pay less proportionately whilst those on lower incomes pay more. UKIP supports the privatisation of the NHS and that people should be allowed to pay to jump queues. This would be the end of the NHS as we know it. Traser
  • Score: 0

2:51pm Sun 27 Apr 14

MSG says...

Great to see UKIP ahead in the polls after all the crap the lefty establishment and the LIBLABCON have thrown at them. it is clear that none of the LIBLABCON parties can tackle UKIP on the EU so resort to personal insults and dark stories. However, none of it has worked and UKIP have got through the storm. Roll on 22nd May when we start to win our country back by voting UKIP !
We will soon be out of the EU and Cameron, Clegg and Miliband will be looking for new jobs !!!!
Great to see UKIP ahead in the polls after all the crap the lefty establishment and the LIBLABCON have thrown at them. it is clear that none of the LIBLABCON parties can tackle UKIP on the EU so resort to personal insults and dark stories. However, none of it has worked and UKIP have got through the storm. Roll on 22nd May when we start to win our country back by voting UKIP ! We will soon be out of the EU and Cameron, Clegg and Miliband will be looking for new jobs !!!! MSG
  • Score: -2

4:58pm Sun 27 Apr 14

David Lacey says...

I wish I could share your confidence MSG but I fear that there are too many vested interests to make a euroexit imminent. We will have to fight for our freedom through the ballot box during numerous elections before the penny drops. Even if the Tories win outright in 2015 (unlikely) I don't trust Cameron to give us the promised referendum. So we must work towards the day the entire wretched edifice collapses under its own contradictions then do our best to disentangle at least expense.
I wish I could share your confidence MSG but I fear that there are too many vested interests to make a euroexit imminent. We will have to fight for our freedom through the ballot box during numerous elections before the penny drops. Even if the Tories win outright in 2015 (unlikely) I don't trust Cameron to give us the promised referendum. So we must work towards the day the entire wretched edifice collapses under its own contradictions then do our best to disentangle at least expense. David Lacey
  • Score: -6

9:55am Mon 28 Apr 14

MartinMo says...

Traser wrote:
UKIP wants to scrap paid maternity leave, sick pay, redundancy pay.

EU Working Time Directive entitles workers to 28 days PAID holiday per year. UKIP wants to remove this EU protection for UK workers.

UKIP are clearly not the party of the working men and women of the North East.

UKIP's attack on immigration fails to take into account that 30% of doctors are foreign born. 40% of nurses are foreign born. If UKIP has its way then the NHS will fall apart.

South Tees and North Tees and Hartlepool NHS Trusts are carrying 80 unfilled nursing posts. They are going to have to resort to employing Spanish nurses. Does UKIP really want to leave the people of Teesside without healthcare protection?

UKIP's policy of introducing a flat rate of tax and relying on VAT will penalise low paid people most of all.

UKIP is not your party!
Most of what you state in reality is reason to vote for them. If you are not working for whatever reason then why should you receive a working salary.

NHS at best is a joke, as a tax payer I find the level of care absolutely shocking for my tax £s. Put that money back in my pocket so I can afford private instead as their is already a severe lack of healthcare protection.

28 days paid holiday, thats 3 more than I currently receive so a win for me.

I am not against immigration, however we should only accept those whom will be a constructive member of society whilst closing the gates to the rest, all those immigrants currently milking the welfare system should face deportation. Welfare and benfits cultures are a drain on this countires financial levels, why should be start looking after the rest of the worlds welfare cases.

If the the flat rate of tax is substantially lower than the current rate then that will work in favour of the low paid, raises in vat will affect everyone equally although it would appear to have a greater adverse affect on those currently living as part of the benfit culture.

What it all comes down too, is can they be any worse than the political leaders we have suffered over the decades so far. They have all screwed over the working class in one way or another, about time for a change and about time for a party which promises to be on the side of the worker, if they live up to that promise, well we will never know if they are not given the oppertunity.
[quote][p][bold]Traser[/bold] wrote: UKIP wants to scrap paid maternity leave, sick pay, redundancy pay. EU Working Time Directive entitles workers to 28 days PAID holiday per year. UKIP wants to remove this EU protection for UK workers. UKIP are clearly not the party of the working men and women of the North East. UKIP's attack on immigration fails to take into account that 30% of doctors are foreign born. 40% of nurses are foreign born. If UKIP has its way then the NHS will fall apart. South Tees and North Tees and Hartlepool NHS Trusts are carrying 80 unfilled nursing posts. They are going to have to resort to employing Spanish nurses. Does UKIP really want to leave the people of Teesside without healthcare protection? UKIP's policy of introducing a flat rate of tax and relying on VAT will penalise low paid people most of all. UKIP is not your party![/p][/quote]Most of what you state in reality is reason to vote for them. If you are not working for whatever reason then why should you receive a working salary. NHS at best is a joke, as a tax payer I find the level of care absolutely shocking for my tax £s. Put that money back in my pocket so I can afford private instead as their is already a severe lack of healthcare protection. 28 days paid holiday, thats 3 more than I currently receive so a win for me. I am not against immigration, however we should only accept those whom will be a constructive member of society whilst closing the gates to the rest, all those immigrants currently milking the welfare system should face deportation. Welfare and benfits cultures are a drain on this countires financial levels, why should be start looking after the rest of the worlds welfare cases. If the the flat rate of tax is substantially lower than the current rate then that will work in favour of the low paid, raises in vat will affect everyone equally although it would appear to have a greater adverse affect on those currently living as part of the benfit culture. What it all comes down too, is can they be any worse than the political leaders we have suffered over the decades so far. They have all screwed over the working class in one way or another, about time for a change and about time for a party which promises to be on the side of the worker, if they live up to that promise, well we will never know if they are not given the oppertunity. MartinMo
  • Score: 2

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