Stewart Lorains from Saltburn ordered to pay back £16k within six months or face a year's jail

Benefits cheat who was filmed playing for his local cricket team set to lose house so he can repay the cash

Benefits cheat Stewart Lorains playing cricket for Boosbeck in undercover filming

Stewart Lorains at court

First published in News The Northern Echo: Photograph of the Author by , Regional Reporter

A BENEFITS cheat who pocketed more than £24,000 in disability payments while opening the batting and keeping wicket for his local cricket team is likely to lose his home after being ordered to return a substantial chunk of his ill-gotten gains.

Stewart Lorains carried on claiming Disability Living Allowance while investigators from the Department for Work and Pensions observed and secretly filmed him regularly turning out for Boosbeck cricket team, in east Cleveland.

The 54-year-old previously received a suspended jail sentence after admitting failing to notify a change of circumstances and returned to Teesside Crown Court to hear the outcome of a Proceeds of Crime Application brought by the Crown.

Prosecutor Martin Towers told the court it had been agreed that arthritis sufferer Lorain - who claimed he needed daily assistance with everyday tasks such as washing, going to the toilet and dressing - benefitted from his crime to the tune of £24,505.

It was also agreed that there was £16,209 available from his existing assets which could be returned to the state.

Mr Towers revealed that the house Lorains shares with his wife in St Cuthbert's Walk, Liverton Mines, Saltburn, east Cleveland was valued at £74,500, while the outstanding mortgage repayments on it were £42,081 in total.

Judge Peter Bowers asked Lorains' barrister Tamara Pawson if he would now have to sell the house, to which she nodded and replied: “It is his only main asset”.

Lorains – described as an “active sportsman” and “upstanding member of the community” - was given a four month jail sentence, suspended for 12 months, in September last year after exaggerating the extent of his illness.

He had begun claiming benefit in November 2008 for arthritis, diabetes and asthma. But by May 2009 his condition had improved to such an extent that he was witnessed performing with the bat and gloves for Boosbeck for whom he played 41 games between 2009 and 2012, scoring 614 runs.

The Northern Echo:

Stewart Lorains (right) in action for Boosbeck

In all Lorains' fraudulent claim stretched from May 6, 2009 to October 23, 2012.

Lorains, who has also been a boxing coach and football referee, agreed through his barrister to pay the available total, £16,209, within six months, and was ordered to do so by Judge Bowers.

The judge, who conceded that the value of Lorains' home was not great, said if he defaulted on the amount owing he would be jailed for 12 months.

A Department for Work and Pensions spokesperson said: "This Government is introducing tougher new measures to further deter people from committing benefit fraud.

"Fraudsters need to know on top of any punishments handed by the court, we always seek to recover the stolen money back from convicted criminals."

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7:42pm Wed 16 Apr 14

Consett87 says...

Aww bless him
Aww bless him Consett87
  • Score: -1

8:03pm Wed 16 Apr 14

bones26 says...

but if he had been a fiddling MP ,he would of only had to pay £126 back over 10 years.
oh and then wanted to keep the job
but if he had been a fiddling MP ,he would of only had to pay £126 back over 10 years. oh and then wanted to keep the job bones26
  • Score: 40

8:16pm Wed 16 Apr 14

stevegg says...

Recovering money from cheats is long overdue. All convicted benefits cheats should have all assets seized to the value of the fraud plus costs and be barred for life from claiming benefits, similarly MP,s should face criminal charges for fraud/misconduct in a public office, made to pay all expenses back following a conviction and be dismissed. But then its one rule for us and another for them.
Recovering money from cheats is long overdue. All convicted benefits cheats should have all assets seized to the value of the fraud plus costs and be barred for life from claiming benefits, similarly MP,s should face criminal charges for fraud/misconduct in a public office, made to pay all expenses back following a conviction and be dismissed. But then its one rule for us and another for them. stevegg
  • Score: 64

8:30pm Wed 16 Apr 14

durhamchap says...

No sympathy at all for this man,but like the previous comments it still seems that MPs can steal from the taxpayer with impunity and if by any chance they are caught then a quick apology in Parliament !
No sympathy at all for this man,but like the previous comments it still seems that MPs can steal from the taxpayer with impunity and if by any chance they are caught then a quick apology in Parliament ! durhamchap
  • Score: 48

9:02pm Wed 16 Apr 14

Chippy70 says...

What I cant understand is how come it looks as though nobody checks out a claimants true condition! It would appear that all you have to do is put the claim in citing whatever reason and you just get the money...does nobody from the DWP actually check?
What I cant understand is how come it looks as though nobody checks out a claimants true condition! It would appear that all you have to do is put the claim in citing whatever reason and you just get the money...does nobody from the DWP actually check? Chippy70
  • Score: 22

10:00pm Wed 16 Apr 14

behonest says...

"Margaret Moran, the former Labour MP who was judged too ill to be jailed for her parliamentary expenses fraud, has continued to visit the Spanish holiday home she bought with her brother.
A jury concluded unanimously that Moran, 57, the former MP for Luton South, was culpable for more than 20 instances of fraud totalling £53,000.
However, she escaped a criminal record and will not be jailed after a judge ruled she was "not fit mentally to defend herself", having heard that she was suffering from 'severe depression'."

Benefit cheating is a disgusting crime - if you're a working class scumbag from the North East that is. If you're an MP, a part of the Establishment, then it's not so bad.

Vote UKIP!
"Margaret Moran, the former Labour MP who was judged too ill to be jailed for her parliamentary expenses fraud, has continued to visit the Spanish holiday home she bought with her brother. A jury concluded unanimously that Moran, 57, the former MP for Luton South, was culpable for more than 20 instances of fraud totalling £53,000. However, she escaped a criminal record and will not be jailed after a judge ruled she was "not fit mentally to defend herself", having heard that she was suffering from 'severe depression'." Benefit cheating is a disgusting crime - if you're a working class scumbag from the North East that is. If you're an MP, a part of the Establishment, then it's not so bad. Vote UKIP! behonest
  • Score: 40

10:08pm Wed 16 Apr 14

rat man says...

This wicket man deserved to be punished!
This wicket man deserved to be punished! rat man
  • Score: 20

10:58pm Wed 16 Apr 14

cromwell1599 says...

Chippy70 wrote:
What I cant understand is how come it looks as though nobody checks out a claimants true condition! It would appear that all you have to do is put the claim in citing whatever reason and you just get the money...does nobody from the DWP actually check?
The galling thing is that people like this are granted benefits when there are many deserving cases that are declared fit to work and denied any help by ATOS.
[quote][p][bold]Chippy70[/bold] wrote: What I cant understand is how come it looks as though nobody checks out a claimants true condition! It would appear that all you have to do is put the claim in citing whatever reason and you just get the money...does nobody from the DWP actually check?[/p][/quote]The galling thing is that people like this are granted benefits when there are many deserving cases that are declared fit to work and denied any help by ATOS. cromwell1599
  • Score: 22

6:12am Thu 17 Apr 14

boysibandit says...

And genuine people like my brother who needs a lung transplant through working as a welder all his life was declared fit for work even after collapsing during his medical ,how did ATOS think a cricketer was unfit for work beggars beyond belief god help our country!
And genuine people like my brother who needs a lung transplant through working as a welder all his life was declared fit for work even after collapsing during his medical ,how did ATOS think a cricketer was unfit for work beggars beyond belief god help our country! boysibandit
  • Score: 36

8:34am Thu 17 Apr 14

cupid stunt says...

it would have been a lot worse if he had been playing with a canoe
it would have been a lot worse if he had been playing with a canoe cupid stunt
  • Score: 3

8:37am Thu 17 Apr 14

MagicAlf says...

behonest wrote:
"Margaret Moran, the former Labour MP who was judged too ill to be jailed for her parliamentary expenses fraud, has continued to visit the Spanish holiday home she bought with her brother.
A jury concluded unanimously that Moran, 57, the former MP for Luton South, was culpable for more than 20 instances of fraud totalling £53,000.
However, she escaped a criminal record and will not be jailed after a judge ruled she was "not fit mentally to defend herself", having heard that she was suffering from 'severe depression'."

Benefit cheating is a disgusting crime - if you're a working class scumbag from the North East that is. If you're an MP, a part of the Establishment, then it's not so bad.

Vote UKIP!
UKIP, the party whose leader claims 15k a year for electricity for his office. They are a bunch of hypocritical clowns.
[quote][p][bold]behonest[/bold] wrote: "Margaret Moran, the former Labour MP who was judged too ill to be jailed for her parliamentary expenses fraud, has continued to visit the Spanish holiday home she bought with her brother. A jury concluded unanimously that Moran, 57, the former MP for Luton South, was culpable for more than 20 instances of fraud totalling £53,000. However, she escaped a criminal record and will not be jailed after a judge ruled she was "not fit mentally to defend herself", having heard that she was suffering from 'severe depression'." Benefit cheating is a disgusting crime - if you're a working class scumbag from the North East that is. If you're an MP, a part of the Establishment, then it's not so bad. Vote UKIP![/p][/quote]UKIP, the party whose leader claims 15k a year for electricity for his office. They are a bunch of hypocritical clowns. MagicAlf
  • Score: -1

10:08am Thu 17 Apr 14

reasoned view says...

This is so wrong. That money could have been claimed by an MP
This is so wrong. That money could have been claimed by an MP reasoned view
  • Score: 6

10:12am Thu 17 Apr 14

RealLivin says...

Chippy70 wrote:
What I cant understand is how come it looks as though nobody checks out a claimants true condition! It would appear that all you have to do is put the claim in citing whatever reason and you just get the money...does nobody from the DWP actually check?
Off course claims are checked, its done the easiest and most cost effective way, tick the box on the form. Most public sector workers are under paid and over worked and generally pushed into responsibility they are not qualified for. While some public sector workers are on pay freezes or even pay cuts others (MP's) are handing themselves over inflation pay rises for for screwing everything up. Other countries use medical procedures for all medical claims and private detectives to check up on suspicious claims. Surely its more cost effective to pay people to do this work than just hand out cash.

As Stevegg said people like this need to be charged with a criminal offence (fraud) and made to pay it back ASAP ie sell their assets to recover the costs, and its one rule for all irrespective of who you are and what position you have held, theft is theft and fraud is fraud both are crimes. The only down side I see is if they are now homeless and job less and we have to support them again.
[quote][p][bold]Chippy70[/bold] wrote: What I cant understand is how come it looks as though nobody checks out a claimants true condition! It would appear that all you have to do is put the claim in citing whatever reason and you just get the money...does nobody from the DWP actually check?[/p][/quote]Off course claims are checked, its done the easiest and most cost effective way, tick the box on the form. Most public sector workers are under paid and over worked and generally pushed into responsibility they are not qualified for. While some public sector workers are on pay freezes or even pay cuts others (MP's) are handing themselves over inflation pay rises for for screwing everything up. Other countries use medical procedures for all medical claims and private detectives to check up on suspicious claims. Surely its more cost effective to pay people to do this work than just hand out cash. As Stevegg said people like this need to be charged with a criminal offence (fraud) and made to pay it back ASAP ie sell their assets to recover the costs, and its one rule for all irrespective of who you are and what position you have held, theft is theft and fraud is fraud both are crimes. The only down side I see is if they are now homeless and job less and we have to support them again. RealLivin
  • Score: -1

11:36am Thu 17 Apr 14

behonest says...

MagicAlf wrote:
behonest wrote:
"Margaret Moran, the former Labour MP who was judged too ill to be jailed for her parliamentary expenses fraud, has continued to visit the Spanish holiday home she bought with her brother.
A jury concluded unanimously that Moran, 57, the former MP for Luton South, was culpable for more than 20 instances of fraud totalling £53,000.
However, she escaped a criminal record and will not be jailed after a judge ruled she was "not fit mentally to defend herself", having heard that she was suffering from 'severe depression'."

Benefit cheating is a disgusting crime - if you're a working class scumbag from the North East that is. If you're an MP, a part of the Establishment, then it's not so bad.

Vote UKIP!
UKIP, the party whose leader claims 15k a year for electricity for his office. They are a bunch of hypocritical clowns.
Big difference between anyone (including politicians - of all parties ), claiming what the rules allow them to claim, and instances of MPs stealing tens of thousands of pounds of taxpayers money and being allowed to walk away from court scot-free; whilst any working class pleb found cheating the system has to go to jail.

That's my point, the corruptness of the established system. That's why I'll vote UKIP, and I hope many others do too - if for nothing else but to stick a rocket up the a*se of the established parties.
[quote][p][bold]MagicAlf[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]behonest[/bold] wrote: "Margaret Moran, the former Labour MP who was judged too ill to be jailed for her parliamentary expenses fraud, has continued to visit the Spanish holiday home she bought with her brother. A jury concluded unanimously that Moran, 57, the former MP for Luton South, was culpable for more than 20 instances of fraud totalling £53,000. However, she escaped a criminal record and will not be jailed after a judge ruled she was "not fit mentally to defend herself", having heard that she was suffering from 'severe depression'." Benefit cheating is a disgusting crime - if you're a working class scumbag from the North East that is. If you're an MP, a part of the Establishment, then it's not so bad. Vote UKIP![/p][/quote]UKIP, the party whose leader claims 15k a year for electricity for his office. They are a bunch of hypocritical clowns.[/p][/quote]Big difference between anyone (including politicians - of all parties ), claiming what the rules allow them to claim, and instances of MPs stealing tens of thousands of pounds of taxpayers money and being allowed to walk away from court scot-free; whilst any working class pleb found cheating the system has to go to jail. That's my point, the corruptness of the established system. That's why I'll vote UKIP, and I hope many others do too - if for nothing else but to stick a rocket up the a*se of the established parties. behonest
  • Score: 5

11:44am Thu 17 Apr 14

AllAboardTheSkylark says...

behonest wrote:
MagicAlf wrote:
behonest wrote:
"Margaret Moran, the former Labour MP who was judged too ill to be jailed for her parliamentary expenses fraud, has continued to visit the Spanish holiday home she bought with her brother.
A jury concluded unanimously that Moran, 57, the former MP for Luton South, was culpable for more than 20 instances of fraud totalling £53,000.
However, she escaped a criminal record and will not be jailed after a judge ruled she was "not fit mentally to defend herself", having heard that she was suffering from 'severe depression'."

Benefit cheating is a disgusting crime - if you're a working class scumbag from the North East that is. If you're an MP, a part of the Establishment, then it's not so bad.

Vote UKIP!
UKIP, the party whose leader claims 15k a year for electricity for his office. They are a bunch of hypocritical clowns.
Big difference between anyone (including politicians - of all parties ), claiming what the rules allow them to claim, and instances of MPs stealing tens of thousands of pounds of taxpayers money and being allowed to walk away from court scot-free; whilst any working class pleb found cheating the system has to go to jail.

That's my point, the corruptness of the established system. That's why I'll vote UKIP, and I hope many others do too - if for nothing else but to stick a rocket up the a*se of the established parties.
Presumably you have never come across the names of Tom Wise MEP, or Derek Clark MEP or Graham Booth MEP.
[quote][p][bold]behonest[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MagicAlf[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]behonest[/bold] wrote: "Margaret Moran, the former Labour MP who was judged too ill to be jailed for her parliamentary expenses fraud, has continued to visit the Spanish holiday home she bought with her brother. A jury concluded unanimously that Moran, 57, the former MP for Luton South, was culpable for more than 20 instances of fraud totalling £53,000. However, she escaped a criminal record and will not be jailed after a judge ruled she was "not fit mentally to defend herself", having heard that she was suffering from 'severe depression'." Benefit cheating is a disgusting crime - if you're a working class scumbag from the North East that is. If you're an MP, a part of the Establishment, then it's not so bad. Vote UKIP![/p][/quote]UKIP, the party whose leader claims 15k a year for electricity for his office. They are a bunch of hypocritical clowns.[/p][/quote]Big difference between anyone (including politicians - of all parties ), claiming what the rules allow them to claim, and instances of MPs stealing tens of thousands of pounds of taxpayers money and being allowed to walk away from court scot-free; whilst any working class pleb found cheating the system has to go to jail. That's my point, the corruptness of the established system. That's why I'll vote UKIP, and I hope many others do too - if for nothing else but to stick a rocket up the a*se of the established parties.[/p][/quote]Presumably you have never come across the names of Tom Wise MEP, or Derek Clark MEP or Graham Booth MEP. AllAboardTheSkylark
  • Score: 6

6:00pm Thu 17 Apr 14

AndMac says...

This makes me really angry, it gives the impression that disability benefits are handed out regardless when nothing could be further from the truth. I have arthritis too and can barely walk. I claimed DLA at the same time as this cheat, I was refused the care component - which it seems that this gentleman was given - but given the full amount of mobility allowance. Rather than appeal, I decided to accept the decision in case I lost the mobility element.
My examination to obtain the benefit was stressful, rigorous and demeaning. It is possible that Mr Lorains' condition improved; but I rather think that the local am-dram society should sign him up as he is clearly a top class actor.

Re the MPs, anyone who thinks that the situation of 'one rule for us and another for them' will change under this current Gov't is totally delusional. Mental health conditions are allowable for Personal Independence Payments, which have just replaced Disability Living Allowance - perhaps you should put in a claim...
This makes me really angry, it gives the impression that disability benefits are handed out regardless when nothing could be further from the truth. I have arthritis too and can barely walk. I claimed DLA at the same time as this cheat, I was refused the care component - which it seems that this gentleman was given - but given the full amount of mobility allowance. Rather than appeal, I decided to accept the decision in case I lost the mobility element. My examination to obtain the benefit was stressful, rigorous and demeaning. It is possible that Mr Lorains' condition improved; but I rather think that the local am-dram society should sign him up as he is clearly a top class actor. Re the MPs, anyone who thinks that the situation of 'one rule for us and another for them' will change under this current Gov't is totally delusional. Mental health conditions are allowable for Personal Independence Payments, which have just replaced Disability Living Allowance - perhaps you should put in a claim... AndMac
  • Score: 3

6:51pm Thu 17 Apr 14

Jackaranda says...

How can you be classed as an 'active sportsman' with a kite like that? Anyhow well done to the person who dobbed him in it!!
How can you be classed as an 'active sportsman' with a kite like that? Anyhow well done to the person who dobbed him in it!! Jackaranda
  • Score: 10

7:38pm Thu 17 Apr 14

behonest says...

AllAboardTheSkylark says...
"Presumably you have never come across the names of Tom Wise MEP, or Derek Clark MEP or Graham Booth MEP."

As attempts to smear UKIP go, this is not a very good one. Two of these made no personal gain from their claims and were not charged with any offence, and the other one went to jail, unlike the Labour MP Margaret Moran who walked free, despite stealing over 50 grand.
AllAboardTheSkylark says... "Presumably you have never come across the names of Tom Wise MEP, or Derek Clark MEP or Graham Booth MEP." As attempts to smear UKIP go, this is not a very good one. Two of these made no personal gain from their claims and were not charged with any offence, and the other one went to jail, unlike the Labour MP Margaret Moran who walked free, despite stealing over 50 grand. behonest
  • Score: -2

8:20pm Thu 17 Apr 14

theWorkerScum says...

This is why the government introduced tough tests.
This is why the government introduced tough tests. theWorkerScum
  • Score: 1

10:16am Sat 19 Apr 14

laboursfoe says...

The usual cr@p, people trying to lump in MP fraud with benefits fraud.

Benefits fraud is the lowest of the low, there is no excuse, defence or diversion. They are removing funds from a pot that is designed to help those that genuinely need it.

Scum...
The usual cr@p, people trying to lump in MP fraud with benefits fraud. Benefits fraud is the lowest of the low, there is no excuse, defence or diversion. They are removing funds from a pot that is designed to help those that genuinely need it. Scum... laboursfoe
  • Score: 4

9:18pm Sat 19 Apr 14

behonest says...

laboursfoe wrote:
The usual cr@p, people trying to lump in MP fraud with benefits fraud.

Benefits fraud is the lowest of the low, there is no excuse, defence or diversion. They are removing funds from a pot that is designed to help those that genuinely need it.

Scum...
So is benefits fraud lower than MPs fraud? MPs are paid a huge salary, plus committee fees, plus pension, plus expenses, etc, and yet some of them still want to steal even more from the taxpayer. Is this really 'lower' than benefits fraud? I don't think so.
[quote][p][bold]laboursfoe[/bold] wrote: The usual cr@p, people trying to lump in MP fraud with benefits fraud. Benefits fraud is the lowest of the low, there is no excuse, defence or diversion. They are removing funds from a pot that is designed to help those that genuinely need it. Scum...[/p][/quote]So is benefits fraud lower than MPs fraud? MPs are paid a huge salary, plus committee fees, plus pension, plus expenses, etc, and yet some of them still want to steal even more from the taxpayer. Is this really 'lower' than benefits fraud? I don't think so. behonest
  • Score: 3

10:13pm Sat 19 Apr 14

bambara says...

WOW I never thought I would ever agree with anything that laboursfoe said but "The usual cr@p, people trying to lump in MP fraud with benefits fraud.

Benefits fraud is the lowest of the low, there is no excuse, defence or diversion. They are removing funds from a pot that is designed to help those that genuinely need it.

Scum..."
Fully agree.

The welfare state exists to catch those who fall through no fault of there own. When scum like this milk the system they should suffer serious consequences.

Equally ATOS are a disgrace, I know of 2 cases in my own family where they have tried to sign off very severely ill people.
1. A man who had multiple heart attacks and has a defibrillator implanted in his chest. As a result of the heart attacks he has short term memory issues, and trouble concentrating. He is in heart failure and has a limited life expectancy. ATOS declared him fit to work.
2. My father, suffering from arthritis and spondylitis in the spine following a major operation 30 years earlier. His spine was twisting as well as curving and the lower part was collapsing. Several years ago and shamefully under a labour government ATOS tried to sign him off as "fit to work", now given that he was on oral morphine for the pain and that he died a little over a year after the incident, I'd say that ATOS got that one wrong as well.
WOW I never thought I would ever agree with anything that laboursfoe said but "The usual cr@p, people trying to lump in MP fraud with benefits fraud. Benefits fraud is the lowest of the low, there is no excuse, defence or diversion. They are removing funds from a pot that is designed to help those that genuinely need it. Scum..." Fully agree. The welfare state exists to catch those who fall through no fault of there own. When scum like this milk the system they should suffer serious consequences. Equally ATOS are a disgrace, I know of 2 cases in my own family where they have tried to sign off very severely ill people. 1. A man who had multiple heart attacks and has a defibrillator implanted in his chest. As a result of the heart attacks he has short term memory issues, and trouble concentrating. He is in heart failure and has a limited life expectancy. ATOS declared him fit to work. 2. My father, suffering from arthritis and spondylitis in the spine following a major operation 30 years earlier. His spine was twisting as well as curving and the lower part was collapsing. Several years ago and shamefully under a labour government ATOS tried to sign him off as "fit to work", now given that he was on oral morphine for the pain and that he died a little over a year after the incident, I'd say that ATOS got that one wrong as well. bambara
  • Score: 0

8:54am Sun 20 Apr 14

laboursfoe says...

bambara wrote:
WOW I never thought I would ever agree with anything that laboursfoe said but "The usual cr@p, people trying to lump in MP fraud with benefits fraud.

Benefits fraud is the lowest of the low, there is no excuse, defence or diversion. They are removing funds from a pot that is designed to help those that genuinely need it.

Scum..."
Fully agree.

The welfare state exists to catch those who fall through no fault of there own. When scum like this milk the system they should suffer serious consequences.

Equally ATOS are a disgrace, I know of 2 cases in my own family where they have tried to sign off very severely ill people.
1. A man who had multiple heart attacks and has a defibrillator implanted in his chest. As a result of the heart attacks he has short term memory issues, and trouble concentrating. He is in heart failure and has a limited life expectancy. ATOS declared him fit to work.
2. My father, suffering from arthritis and spondylitis in the spine following a major operation 30 years earlier. His spine was twisting as well as curving and the lower part was collapsing. Several years ago and shamefully under a labour government ATOS tried to sign him off as "fit to work", now given that he was on oral morphine for the pain and that he died a little over a year after the incident, I'd say that ATOS got that one wrong as well.
Sorry to hear those experiences Bambara, they must have been very difficult to deal with.

I think the main issue with the whole process is there is no interface between different departments.

If the correct record links were in place there would be no need to pay crazy service fees to ATOS and all of the information would be available to the people who needed to make the decision.
[quote][p][bold]bambara[/bold] wrote: WOW I never thought I would ever agree with anything that laboursfoe said but "The usual cr@p, people trying to lump in MP fraud with benefits fraud. Benefits fraud is the lowest of the low, there is no excuse, defence or diversion. They are removing funds from a pot that is designed to help those that genuinely need it. Scum..." Fully agree. The welfare state exists to catch those who fall through no fault of there own. When scum like this milk the system they should suffer serious consequences. Equally ATOS are a disgrace, I know of 2 cases in my own family where they have tried to sign off very severely ill people. 1. A man who had multiple heart attacks and has a defibrillator implanted in his chest. As a result of the heart attacks he has short term memory issues, and trouble concentrating. He is in heart failure and has a limited life expectancy. ATOS declared him fit to work. 2. My father, suffering from arthritis and spondylitis in the spine following a major operation 30 years earlier. His spine was twisting as well as curving and the lower part was collapsing. Several years ago and shamefully under a labour government ATOS tried to sign him off as "fit to work", now given that he was on oral morphine for the pain and that he died a little over a year after the incident, I'd say that ATOS got that one wrong as well.[/p][/quote]Sorry to hear those experiences Bambara, they must have been very difficult to deal with. I think the main issue with the whole process is there is no interface between different departments. If the correct record links were in place there would be no need to pay crazy service fees to ATOS and all of the information would be available to the people who needed to make the decision. laboursfoe
  • Score: 0

2:32pm Tue 22 Apr 14

MartinMo says...

Just one of many low life scum, making it harder for those in genuine need to actually be taken seriously.

Once caught they should be barred from receiving any form of benefit aide.
Just one of many low life scum, making it harder for those in genuine need to actually be taken seriously. Once caught they should be barred from receiving any form of benefit aide. MartinMo
  • Score: 1

11:52pm Tue 29 Apr 14

socksalesman says...

behonest wrote:
"Margaret Moran, the former Labour MP who was judged too ill to be jailed for her parliamentary expenses fraud, has continued to visit the Spanish holiday home she bought with her brother.
A jury concluded unanimously that Moran, 57, the former MP for Luton South, was culpable for more than 20 instances of fraud totalling £53,000.
However, she escaped a criminal record and will not be jailed after a judge ruled she was "not fit mentally to defend herself", having heard that she was suffering from 'severe depression'."

Benefit cheating is a disgusting crime - if you're a working class scumbag from the North East that is. If you're an MP, a part of the Establishment, then it's not so bad.

Vote UKIP!
don't vote UKIP.
[quote][p][bold]behonest[/bold] wrote: "Margaret Moran, the former Labour MP who was judged too ill to be jailed for her parliamentary expenses fraud, has continued to visit the Spanish holiday home she bought with her brother. A jury concluded unanimously that Moran, 57, the former MP for Luton South, was culpable for more than 20 instances of fraud totalling £53,000. However, she escaped a criminal record and will not be jailed after a judge ruled she was "not fit mentally to defend herself", having heard that she was suffering from 'severe depression'." Benefit cheating is a disgusting crime - if you're a working class scumbag from the North East that is. If you're an MP, a part of the Establishment, then it's not so bad. Vote UKIP![/p][/quote]don't vote UKIP. socksalesman
  • Score: 0

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