Armed robbers make off with cash after dawn raid on security guards

The Northern Echo: A CCTV image of the two armed robbers at the Sainsbury's store in Crescent Road, Middlesbrough A CCTV image of the two armed robbers at the Sainsbury's store in Crescent Road, Middlesbrough

ARMED robbers wearing balaclavas threatened two security guards with a machete before making off with a 'substantial' amount of cash in an early morning raid.

Police are appealing for witnesses to the armed robbery, which took place at 6.30am this morning (Friday, February 7) at Sainsbury’s on Crescent Road, in Middlesbrough.

The Northern Echo:

Two Loomis security guards were filling up the cash machine at the store when one of them was approached by two men wearing balaclavas as he was retrieving the cash box from the van. One of the men was brandishing a large machete-type weapon and a scuffle ensued.

They then frog-marched him over to his colleague inside the store and threatened them into handing over a substantial amount of cash.

A dark car with a driver inside was waiting for them outside of the shop and they made off down Crescent Road towards Union Street. Police have recovered a grey Vauxhall Astra in Meath Street, in Middlesbrough, a short distance away from the scene and are carrying out forensic tests.

Police are carrying out extra patrols in the area and following up house-to-house enquiries in the area.

Anyone who was in the area who saw anything suspicious or knows anything about the robbery is asked to contact Cleveland Police on the non-emergency number 101 or contact Crimestoppers anonymously on 0800-555-111.

A Sainsbury's spokesman said: Sainsbury’s spokesperson: “We can confirm that there was a robbery at our Crescent Road Local store this morning.

"No one was harmed and we are working with the police on their investigations.”

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12:21pm Fri 7 Feb 14

NO EINSTEIN says...

This type of incident is unforgivable, but this government can expect a lot more of these types of crimes as there policies and money cutting exercises keep hacking into people, and making them more and more desperate.

Your basic person on the dole now gets about £71 a week, you can't survive on that, you just can't.

Oversley there are some winners like the criminals, especially if the get sent down.

Free warm room and bed, 3 square meals a day, education, free health care, sports recreation, there own church, etc etc, that's one heck of a deterrent (not)
This type of incident is unforgivable, but this government can expect a lot more of these types of crimes as there policies and money cutting exercises keep hacking into people, and making them more and more desperate. Your basic person on the dole now gets about £71 a week, you can't survive on that, you just can't. Oversley there are some winners like the criminals, especially if the get sent down. Free warm room and bed, 3 square meals a day, education, free health care, sports recreation, there own church, etc etc, that's one heck of a deterrent (not) NO EINSTEIN

1:08pm Fri 7 Feb 14

MartinMo says...

NO EINSTEIN wrote:
This type of incident is unforgivable, but this government can expect a lot more of these types of crimes as there policies and money cutting exercises keep hacking into people, and making them more and more desperate.

Your basic person on the dole now gets about £71 a week, you can't survive on that, you just can't.

Oversley there are some winners like the criminals, especially if the get sent down.

Free warm room and bed, 3 square meals a day, education, free health care, sports recreation, there own church, etc etc, that's one heck of a deterrent (not)
There is no such thing as a basic person on the dole being forced to live of £71. The average family (2 adults / 2 kids) claiming benefits are in receipt of:

Housing benefit = random depending on rent and area of residence, I know one such family in the Darlington area living in a 3 bed semi, rent £460 per month paid for by benefits (£5520pa)

Child allowance = approx £32 per week (£1664pa)
Child tax credit = £330 per month (£3960pa)
JSA for 2 adults = £142 per week (£7384pa)

So with the 3 items above, that gives them £1084 per month expendable income.
Now take into the fact, free school meals, free prescriptions, 90% concessionary reductions on the cost of school trips, council tax and the housing benefit plus various other benfits throuwn into the loop.

With the figures above with an annual fee of £80 for council tax (friendly local council) and an average cost of £20 per week for 2 kids school meals this average family is claiming just short £20000 pa in benefits. This is a lot more than most people get for working full time before tax.
[quote][p][bold]NO EINSTEIN[/bold] wrote: This type of incident is unforgivable, but this government can expect a lot more of these types of crimes as there policies and money cutting exercises keep hacking into people, and making them more and more desperate. Your basic person on the dole now gets about £71 a week, you can't survive on that, you just can't. Oversley there are some winners like the criminals, especially if the get sent down. Free warm room and bed, 3 square meals a day, education, free health care, sports recreation, there own church, etc etc, that's one heck of a deterrent (not)[/p][/quote]There is no such thing as a basic person on the dole being forced to live of £71. The average family (2 adults / 2 kids) claiming benefits are in receipt of: Housing benefit = random depending on rent and area of residence, I know one such family in the Darlington area living in a 3 bed semi, rent £460 per month paid for by benefits (£5520pa) Child allowance = approx £32 per week (£1664pa) Child tax credit = £330 per month (£3960pa) JSA for 2 adults = £142 per week (£7384pa) So with the 3 items above, that gives them £1084 per month expendable income. Now take into the fact, free school meals, free prescriptions, 90% concessionary reductions on the cost of school trips, council tax and the housing benefit plus various other benfits throuwn into the loop. With the figures above with an annual fee of £80 for council tax (friendly local council) and an average cost of £20 per week for 2 kids school meals this average family is claiming just short £20000 pa in benefits. This is a lot more than most people get for working full time before tax. MartinMo

1:11pm Fri 7 Feb 14

MartinMo says...

The police need to start treating local MPs as suspects as the job seems very well planned and governmental MPs are experts in planning how to steal money from the working.
The police need to start treating local MPs as suspects as the job seems very well planned and governmental MPs are experts in planning how to steal money from the working. MartinMo

1:51pm Fri 7 Feb 14

NO EINSTEIN says...

MartinMo wrote:
NO EINSTEIN wrote:
This type of incident is unforgivable, but this government can expect a lot more of these types of crimes as there policies and money cutting exercises keep hacking into people, and making them more and more desperate.

Your basic person on the dole now gets about £71 a week, you can't survive on that, you just can't.

Oversley there are some winners like the criminals, especially if the get sent down.

Free warm room and bed, 3 square meals a day, education, free health care, sports recreation, there own church, etc etc, that's one heck of a deterrent (not)
There is no such thing as a basic person on the dole being forced to live of £71. The average family (2 adults / 2 kids) claiming benefits are in receipt of:

Housing benefit = random depending on rent and area of residence, I know one such family in the Darlington area living in a 3 bed semi, rent £460 per month paid for by benefits (£5520pa)

Child allowance = approx £32 per week (£1664pa)
Child tax credit = £330 per month (£3960pa)
JSA for 2 adults = £142 per week (£7384pa)

So with the 3 items above, that gives them £1084 per month expendable income.
Now take into the fact, free school meals, free prescriptions, 90% concessionary reductions on the cost of school trips, council tax and the housing benefit plus various other benfits throuwn into the loop.

With the figures above with an annual fee of £80 for council tax (friendly local council) and an average cost of £20 per week for 2 kids school meals this average family is claiming just short £20000 pa in benefits. This is a lot more than most people get for working full time before tax.
MartinMo
I can't beleive (but do) that unemployed (2 adults / 2 kids) get this sort of money. im gob smacked, blimey its not worth them looking for a job, you have opened my eyes big style !!!!!!!!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]MartinMo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]NO EINSTEIN[/bold] wrote: This type of incident is unforgivable, but this government can expect a lot more of these types of crimes as there policies and money cutting exercises keep hacking into people, and making them more and more desperate. Your basic person on the dole now gets about £71 a week, you can't survive on that, you just can't. Oversley there are some winners like the criminals, especially if the get sent down. Free warm room and bed, 3 square meals a day, education, free health care, sports recreation, there own church, etc etc, that's one heck of a deterrent (not)[/p][/quote]There is no such thing as a basic person on the dole being forced to live of £71. The average family (2 adults / 2 kids) claiming benefits are in receipt of: Housing benefit = random depending on rent and area of residence, I know one such family in the Darlington area living in a 3 bed semi, rent £460 per month paid for by benefits (£5520pa) Child allowance = approx £32 per week (£1664pa) Child tax credit = £330 per month (£3960pa) JSA for 2 adults = £142 per week (£7384pa) So with the 3 items above, that gives them £1084 per month expendable income. Now take into the fact, free school meals, free prescriptions, 90% concessionary reductions on the cost of school trips, council tax and the housing benefit plus various other benfits throuwn into the loop. With the figures above with an annual fee of £80 for council tax (friendly local council) and an average cost of £20 per week for 2 kids school meals this average family is claiming just short £20000 pa in benefits. This is a lot more than most people get for working full time before tax.[/p][/quote]MartinMo I can't beleive (but do) that unemployed (2 adults / 2 kids) get this sort of money. im gob smacked, blimey its not worth them looking for a job, you have opened my eyes big style !!!!!!!!!!!!! NO EINSTEIN

2:27pm Fri 7 Feb 14

Smig62 says...

MartinMo wrote:
NO EINSTEIN wrote:
This type of incident is unforgivable, but this government can expect a lot more of these types of crimes as there policies and money cutting exercises keep hacking into people, and making them more and more desperate.

Your basic person on the dole now gets about £71 a week, you can't survive on that, you just can't.

Oversley there are some winners like the criminals, especially if the get sent down.

Free warm room and bed, 3 square meals a day, education, free health care, sports recreation, there own church, etc etc, that's one heck of a deterrent (not)
There is no such thing as a basic person on the dole being forced to live of £71. The average family (2 adults / 2 kids) claiming benefits are in receipt of:

Housing benefit = random depending on rent and area of residence, I know one such family in the Darlington area living in a 3 bed semi, rent £460 per month paid for by benefits (£5520pa)

Child allowance = approx £32 per week (£1664pa)
Child tax credit = £330 per month (£3960pa)
JSA for 2 adults = £142 per week (£7384pa)

So with the 3 items above, that gives them £1084 per month expendable income.
Now take into the fact, free school meals, free prescriptions, 90% concessionary reductions on the cost of school trips, council tax and the housing benefit plus various other benfits throuwn into the loop.

With the figures above with an annual fee of £80 for council tax (friendly local council) and an average cost of £20 per week for 2 kids school meals this average family is claiming just short £20000 pa in benefits. This is a lot more than most people get for working full time before tax.
Of course there is such a thing as a basic person on the dole being forced to live off £71.

If you are a single home owner who has lost his job and has to claim benefits, you get:

Housing benefit = £0 as you don't pay rent on a home you own.
Child Allowance = £0 as you don't have kids.
Child tax credit = £0 as you don't have kids.
JSA for a sinle adult = £71.70.

Grand total of £71.70 per week.

From this you have to pay:
Mortgage and possibly Endowment Policy
Building Insurance which is mandatory with a mortgage
Gas
Electic
Water
Council Tax.

The OP was correct, you cannot survive on that.
[quote][p][bold]MartinMo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]NO EINSTEIN[/bold] wrote: This type of incident is unforgivable, but this government can expect a lot more of these types of crimes as there policies and money cutting exercises keep hacking into people, and making them more and more desperate. Your basic person on the dole now gets about £71 a week, you can't survive on that, you just can't. Oversley there are some winners like the criminals, especially if the get sent down. Free warm room and bed, 3 square meals a day, education, free health care, sports recreation, there own church, etc etc, that's one heck of a deterrent (not)[/p][/quote]There is no such thing as a basic person on the dole being forced to live of £71. The average family (2 adults / 2 kids) claiming benefits are in receipt of: Housing benefit = random depending on rent and area of residence, I know one such family in the Darlington area living in a 3 bed semi, rent £460 per month paid for by benefits (£5520pa) Child allowance = approx £32 per week (£1664pa) Child tax credit = £330 per month (£3960pa) JSA for 2 adults = £142 per week (£7384pa) So with the 3 items above, that gives them £1084 per month expendable income. Now take into the fact, free school meals, free prescriptions, 90% concessionary reductions on the cost of school trips, council tax and the housing benefit plus various other benfits throuwn into the loop. With the figures above with an annual fee of £80 for council tax (friendly local council) and an average cost of £20 per week for 2 kids school meals this average family is claiming just short £20000 pa in benefits. This is a lot more than most people get for working full time before tax.[/p][/quote]Of course there is such a thing as a basic person on the dole being forced to live off £71. If you are a single home owner who has lost his job and has to claim benefits, you get: Housing benefit = £0 as you don't pay rent on a home you own. Child Allowance = £0 as you don't have kids. Child tax credit = £0 as you don't have kids. JSA for a sinle adult = £71.70. Grand total of £71.70 per week. From this you have to pay: Mortgage and possibly Endowment Policy Building Insurance which is mandatory with a mortgage Gas Electic Water Council Tax. The OP was correct, you cannot survive on that. Smig62

2:31pm Fri 7 Feb 14

MartinMo says...

Thats why many make themselves unemployable and the phrase "better off on benefits" came to light.
Thats why many make themselves unemployable and the phrase "better off on benefits" came to light. MartinMo

3:36pm Fri 7 Feb 14

MartinMo says...

As a home owner means you have financial backing (value of home). So therefore even if said single unemployed home owner could claim JSA he still has more than £71 per week. Once he no longer has home ownership and nothing left from its sale he will then qualify for housing benefit ect ect so again still in receipt of more than £71.

Although not a home owner as B (random) had been renting but had £18k in savings for a deposit on a mortgage, B then became unemployed. Due to his savings (financial backing) he could not claim any benfits whatsoever. Now in your mind Smig62, B basically had £0 pounds a week to live off.....wrong he had £18K and when those savings dropped below a specific level he would then qualify for JSA, housing benefit and all the other handouts.

Understand now.

Although in this day and age you don't find many single, unemployed, home owners.
As a home owner means you have financial backing (value of home). So therefore even if said single unemployed home owner could claim JSA he still has more than £71 per week. Once he no longer has home ownership and nothing left from its sale he will then qualify for housing benefit ect ect so again still in receipt of more than £71. Although not a home owner as B (random) had been renting but had £18k in savings for a deposit on a mortgage, B then became unemployed. Due to his savings (financial backing) he could not claim any benfits whatsoever. Now in your mind Smig62, B basically had £0 pounds a week to live off.....wrong he had £18K and when those savings dropped below a specific level he would then qualify for JSA, housing benefit and all the other handouts. Understand now. Although in this day and age you don't find many single, unemployed, home owners. MartinMo

10:10am Sat 8 Feb 14

Smig62 says...

MartinMo wrote:
As a home owner means you have financial backing (value of home). So therefore even if said single unemployed home owner could claim JSA he still has more than £71 per week. Once he no longer has home ownership and nothing left from its sale he will then qualify for housing benefit ect ect so again still in receipt of more than £71.

Although not a home owner as B (random) had been renting but had £18k in savings for a deposit on a mortgage, B then became unemployed. Due to his savings (financial backing) he could not claim any benfits whatsoever. Now in your mind Smig62, B basically had £0 pounds a week to live off.....wrong he had £18K and when those savings dropped below a specific level he would then qualify for JSA, housing benefit and all the other handouts.

Understand now.

Although in this day and age you don't find many single, unemployed, home owners.
I made the example of a single unemployed home owner to show that some people do indeed receive only £71 a week from the benefit system. Ironically, these are the people who have been paying into the system for years. You cannot get a mortgage whilst on unemployment benefits.

Your answer is to sell the house and live off the proceeds. This makes the assumption that there would be any. Never heard of negative equity or close to it. This means that they cannot sell their house without incurring a debt so they are indeed only in receipt of £71.

To back this up, you use the example of some saving for a deposit and is therefore NOT a homeowner.

If someone has been working and lost their job, they can claim benefits regardless of savings but only contribution based JSA of £71 for a period of six months then it becomes means tested.

As to not finding many single, unemployed homeowners, there are loads who lost their jobs in the recent recession. All of them will have paid income tax and NI for years if not decades. Your argument seems to be that they should be totally asset stripped before they receive a penny from the system they have paid into.
[quote][p][bold]MartinMo[/bold] wrote: As a home owner means you have financial backing (value of home). So therefore even if said single unemployed home owner could claim JSA he still has more than £71 per week. Once he no longer has home ownership and nothing left from its sale he will then qualify for housing benefit ect ect so again still in receipt of more than £71. Although not a home owner as B (random) had been renting but had £18k in savings for a deposit on a mortgage, B then became unemployed. Due to his savings (financial backing) he could not claim any benfits whatsoever. Now in your mind Smig62, B basically had £0 pounds a week to live off.....wrong he had £18K and when those savings dropped below a specific level he would then qualify for JSA, housing benefit and all the other handouts. Understand now. Although in this day and age you don't find many single, unemployed, home owners.[/p][/quote]I made the example of a single unemployed home owner to show that some people do indeed receive only £71 a week from the benefit system. Ironically, these are the people who have been paying into the system for years. You cannot get a mortgage whilst on unemployment benefits. Your answer is to sell the house and live off the proceeds. This makes the assumption that there would be any. Never heard of negative equity or close to it. This means that they cannot sell their house without incurring a debt so they are indeed only in receipt of £71. To back this up, you use the example of some saving for a deposit and is therefore NOT a homeowner. If someone has been working and lost their job, they can claim benefits regardless of savings but only contribution based JSA of £71 for a period of six months then it becomes means tested. As to not finding many single, unemployed homeowners, there are loads who lost their jobs in the recent recession. All of them will have paid income tax and NI for years if not decades. Your argument seems to be that they should be totally asset stripped before they receive a penny from the system they have paid into. Smig62

8:52am Tue 11 Feb 14

MartinMo says...

How odd, twice I have responded to he above, giving perfect examples of how the system screws you over if you have any sort of financial back, home owner/savings and yet the posts have gone.

Been there myself, found myself out of work after 24 years military service and although I have family to care for, food to buy, debts to pay, rent to pay ect ect I was entitled to £0.00 from the benefits systems. The reason given, I had savings in the bank (deposit for mortgage when I found employment), I was forced to live of my savings, what happened to the previous 24 years of taxes that were taken off me without fail every pay day.
How odd, twice I have responded to he above, giving perfect examples of how the system screws you over if you have any sort of financial back, home owner/savings and yet the posts have gone. Been there myself, found myself out of work after 24 years military service and although I have family to care for, food to buy, debts to pay, rent to pay ect ect I was entitled to £0.00 from the benefits systems. The reason given, I had savings in the bank (deposit for mortgage when I found employment), I was forced to live of my savings, what happened to the previous 24 years of taxes that were taken off me without fail every pay day. MartinMo

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