Skinnergate traders plead with Darlington Borough Council to change parking policy to help trade

The Northern Echo: Derek Risbey (far left) and many Skinnergate traders believe that a lack of on-street parking is damaging business Derek Risbey (far left) and many Skinnergate traders believe that a lack of on-street parking is damaging business

TRADERS in the Skinnergate area of Darlington are pleading with the council to re-introduce on-street parking - as they say a lack of shoppers is killing business.

Around a dozen shops on the street have closed down in the last year and many remaining traders say they are struggling to stay afloat.

Derek Risbey of Risbeys photographers is among those who believe the lack of parking on the street is a major factor in its demise.

He says that when Skinnergate was pedestrianised in the late 1990's there were more shoppers visiting but it is no longer busy enough to warrant pedestrianisation and its distance from car parks puts it at a disadvantage to the rest of the town centre.

“About 18-months-ago we did a survey of all the traders along Skinnergate, the yards, Blackwellgate and High Row and they all seemed to say that having parking along Skinnergate was a good idea and they wanted it," he said.

“We gave that to the council and felt that was surely strong enough to get the message across that this is what they should do.

“They (the council) even said it was a good idea but we have heard nothing since.”

Patrice Burns of Heavenly Scent florists said she would like Skinnergate parking to mirror the pay and display bays along nearby Duke Street and Grange Road which would in turn boost council revenue.

Mark Stewart of Pizza Express said his lunchtime trade is affected by a lack of parking because workers who only have an hour to spare do not want to have to search for a space.

Other shop owners also pointed out that without parking there is no vehicular access to Skinnergate for the disabled.

Sue Carpenter of Footprints Christian bookshop summed up the feeling of some traders, saying: “It is well past crisis point and if the council delays this decision any more, how many of our businesses will still be here?”

A spokesperson for Darlington Borough Council said they have listened to retailers but the desire to have on-street parking was not a view held by all.

She added: “This forms part of the consultation on the Council’s Parking Strategy and we have had other views and ideas expressed.

“We are reflecting the need to investigate regeneration options for Skinnergate in the parking strategy.

“The council and Distinct Darlington is planning a town centre conference to consider how Darlington town centre should adapt to reflect the changing nature of retail and continue to have a vibrant town centre.”

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8:28am Tue 28 Jan 14

Madadrian says...

Shops in Skinnergate and post hous wynd have lost several hundred pounds in sales to me over the years because it is easier for me to go to a retail park and load my purchases into the car outside the shop
Shops in Skinnergate and post hous wynd have lost several hundred pounds in sales to me over the years because it is easier for me to go to a retail park and load my purchases into the car outside the shop Madadrian
  • Score: 39

8:34am Tue 28 Jan 14

judygone says...

Don`t build your hopes up. DBC are brain dead egotistic`s.
Don`t build your hopes up. DBC are brain dead egotistic`s. judygone
  • Score: 39

8:34am Tue 28 Jan 14

Homshaw1 says...

Some mysterious unnamed council spokesperson saying some unspecified other views have been expressed.

Poor reporting and a dismissive response from an arrogant council who follow their own agenda to the detriment of the true interests of the Town Centre.
Some mysterious unnamed council spokesperson saying some unspecified other views have been expressed. Poor reporting and a dismissive response from an arrogant council who follow their own agenda to the detriment of the true interests of the Town Centre. Homshaw1
  • Score: 50

8:45am Tue 28 Jan 14

Darloresident says...

As they have shown over the years this council have their own agenda and don't give a toss about the views of the traders and the shoppers.Will the last person to leave Darlington pleas switch off the lights..
As they have shown over the years this council have their own agenda and don't give a toss about the views of the traders and the shoppers.Will the last person to leave Darlington pleas switch off the lights.. Darloresident
  • Score: 43

9:04am Tue 28 Jan 14

studio says...

Am i the only person that thinks this is ridiculous?

What about the parking just off Duke street? Is 50 yds too far to walk? There has never been a huge amount of parking on skinnergate. Do you need to park outside a hairdressers? A pizza shop? a gym? ( how ironic! )

Shops all over the town are dying a death. not just on Skinnergate.
Am i the only person that thinks this is ridiculous? What about the parking just off Duke street? Is 50 yds too far to walk? There has never been a huge amount of parking on skinnergate. Do you need to park outside a hairdressers? A pizza shop? a gym? ( how ironic! ) Shops all over the town are dying a death. not just on Skinnergate. studio
  • Score: 45

9:12am Tue 28 Jan 14

Hunty1 says...

I've got to say my loyalty to Darlington has gone, this is due to over active traffic wardens and high parking charges, Darlington used to be buzzing, I personally would like to see a free hour parking, call it happy hour for traders, I go to Teesside park and the Metro so unfortunately so does my cash..
I've got to say my loyalty to Darlington has gone, this is due to over active traffic wardens and high parking charges, Darlington used to be buzzing, I personally would like to see a free hour parking, call it happy hour for traders, I go to Teesside park and the Metro so unfortunately so does my cash.. Hunty1
  • Score: 36

9:51am Tue 28 Jan 14

cromwell1599 says...

I don't drive, but there's a car park right on Skinnergate behind Ladbrokes and accessible from Bondgate, if there was enough to attract people to Skinnergate then surely they would use this.
I don't drive, but there's a car park right on Skinnergate behind Ladbrokes and accessible from Bondgate, if there was enough to attract people to Skinnergate then surely they would use this. cromwell1599
  • Score: 17

9:52am Tue 28 Jan 14

miketually says...

studio wrote:
Am i the only person that thinks this is ridiculous?

What about the parking just off Duke street? Is 50 yds too far to walk? There has never been a huge amount of parking on skinnergate. Do you need to park outside a hairdressers? A pizza shop? a gym? ( how ironic! )

Shops all over the town are dying a death. not just on Skinnergate.
Every evening, I see cars queuing on Duke Street waiting for the bollard to drop, so that they can drive down to park at the gym. There's parking on Duke Street itself, on Grange Road, and in Abbots Yard car park.

If what they claim is true, businesses on Duke Street and Grange Road would be thriving relative to those in Skinnergate? According to a councillor, businesses on Skinnergate are actually split 50/50 on this.
[quote][p][bold]studio[/bold] wrote: Am i the only person that thinks this is ridiculous? What about the parking just off Duke street? Is 50 yds too far to walk? There has never been a huge amount of parking on skinnergate. Do you need to park outside a hairdressers? A pizza shop? a gym? ( how ironic! ) Shops all over the town are dying a death. not just on Skinnergate.[/p][/quote]Every evening, I see cars queuing on Duke Street waiting for the bollard to drop, so that they can drive down to park at the gym. There's parking on Duke Street itself, on Grange Road, and in Abbots Yard car park. If what they claim is true, businesses on Duke Street and Grange Road would be thriving relative to those in Skinnergate? According to a councillor, businesses on Skinnergate are actually split 50/50 on this. miketually
  • Score: 4

10:07am Tue 28 Jan 14

lingling29 says...

studio wrote:
Am i the only person that thinks this is ridiculous?

What about the parking just off Duke street? Is 50 yds too far to walk? There has never been a huge amount of parking on skinnergate. Do you need to park outside a hairdressers? A pizza shop? a gym? ( how ironic! )

Shops all over the town are dying a death. not just on Skinnergate.
couldn't agree more !!!!!!!
lets have parking out side boyes or marksies, she says sarcastically,
its the recession and high rates, that's why trade is practically finished
[quote][p][bold]studio[/bold] wrote: Am i the only person that thinks this is ridiculous? What about the parking just off Duke street? Is 50 yds too far to walk? There has never been a huge amount of parking on skinnergate. Do you need to park outside a hairdressers? A pizza shop? a gym? ( how ironic! ) Shops all over the town are dying a death. not just on Skinnergate.[/p][/quote]couldn't agree more !!!!!!! lets have parking out side boyes or marksies, she says sarcastically, its the recession and high rates, that's why trade is practically finished lingling29
  • Score: 24

10:08am Tue 28 Jan 14

Madadrian says...

studio wrote:
Am i the only person that thinks this is ridiculous?

What about the parking just off Duke street? Is 50 yds too far to walk? There has never been a huge amount of parking on skinnergate. Do you need to park outside a hairdressers? A pizza shop? a gym? ( how ironic! )

Shops all over the town are dying a death. not just on Skinnergate.
50 yards is certainly too far for me and many others to walk if trying to get a large package to my car. The criteria for disabled parking limits the badges to those who cannot walk more than 50 yards and does not include carrying shopping or walking uphill.

At least on the retail park I can park near the shop and get an assistant to carry my purchase out for me.
[quote][p][bold]studio[/bold] wrote: Am i the only person that thinks this is ridiculous? What about the parking just off Duke street? Is 50 yds too far to walk? There has never been a huge amount of parking on skinnergate. Do you need to park outside a hairdressers? A pizza shop? a gym? ( how ironic! ) Shops all over the town are dying a death. not just on Skinnergate.[/p][/quote]50 yards is certainly too far for me and many others to walk if trying to get a large package to my car. The criteria for disabled parking limits the badges to those who cannot walk more than 50 yards and does not include carrying shopping or walking uphill. At least on the retail park I can park near the shop and get an assistant to carry my purchase out for me. Madadrian
  • Score: 8

10:16am Tue 28 Jan 14

oliviaden6 says...

Don't hold your breath DBC is totally immune to this plea. They are only interested if it makes more money for Bill and His Buddies, come up with a money making idea for the buggers and it will get a good hearing and result and the required result?
Don't hold your breath DBC is totally immune to this plea. They are only interested if it makes more money for Bill and His Buddies, come up with a money making idea for the buggers and it will get a good hearing and result and the required result? oliviaden6
  • Score: 16

10:23am Tue 28 Jan 14

Homshaw1 says...

Well how hard is it to find out? Skinnergate is 100 yards long the businesses could be polled in less than 2 hours - a simple and useful job for the rangers.

Are businesses the only people who should have a say? Probably not. Just everything coming from council staff and councillors is unsupported claims from unnamed people and their real agenda is probably to maximise their parking income

Get used to the fact that Darlington town centre is competing with the likes of Middlesbrough and Teesside park and losing. Just look at Stockton Town centre it is even worse than Darlington because its closer to them. If the Town centre doesn't prosper parking revenues will fall. Killing the golden goose springs to mind
Well how hard is it to find out? Skinnergate is 100 yards long the businesses could be polled in less than 2 hours - a simple and useful job for the rangers. Are businesses the only people who should have a say? Probably not. Just everything coming from council staff and councillors is unsupported claims from unnamed people and their real agenda is probably to maximise their parking income Get used to the fact that Darlington town centre is competing with the likes of Middlesbrough and Teesside park and losing. Just look at Stockton Town centre it is even worse than Darlington because its closer to them. If the Town centre doesn't prosper parking revenues will fall. Killing the golden goose springs to mind Homshaw1
  • Score: 16

10:24am Tue 28 Jan 14

studio says...

Madadrian wrote:
studio wrote: Am i the only person that thinks this is ridiculous? What about the parking just off Duke street? Is 50 yds too far to walk? There has never been a huge amount of parking on skinnergate. Do you need to park outside a hairdressers? A pizza shop? a gym? ( how ironic! ) Shops all over the town are dying a death. not just on Skinnergate.
50 yards is certainly too far for me and many others to walk if trying to get a large package to my car. The criteria for disabled parking limits the badges to those who cannot walk more than 50 yards and does not include carrying shopping or walking uphill. At least on the retail park I can park near the shop and get an assistant to carry my purchase out for me.
I do feel for people who cannot get about as freely as they wish, i really do. Maybe disabled vehicular access to this area would help you, however i dont feel it would make a difference to the businesses in Skinnergate.

I too do a great deal of my retail shopping either at retail parks or online, making the odd trip into the town. Having spent most of my life in Richmond, I have watched the decline of a town centre closely, the empty business units there have now been replaced..... With charity shops and bakers, i can only see Darlington heading in the same direction, maybe with the addition of more bookmakers! Unfortunatly this is a national, not local problem.

Many years ago i used to look forward to jumping on the bus and heading into Darington on a saturday with my friends, now i pretty much avoid the town centre.
[quote][p][bold]Madadrian[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]studio[/bold] wrote: Am i the only person that thinks this is ridiculous? What about the parking just off Duke street? Is 50 yds too far to walk? There has never been a huge amount of parking on skinnergate. Do you need to park outside a hairdressers? A pizza shop? a gym? ( how ironic! ) Shops all over the town are dying a death. not just on Skinnergate.[/p][/quote]50 yards is certainly too far for me and many others to walk if trying to get a large package to my car. The criteria for disabled parking limits the badges to those who cannot walk more than 50 yards and does not include carrying shopping or walking uphill. At least on the retail park I can park near the shop and get an assistant to carry my purchase out for me.[/p][/quote]I do feel for people who cannot get about as freely as they wish, i really do. Maybe disabled vehicular access to this area would help you, however i dont feel it would make a difference to the businesses in Skinnergate. I too do a great deal of my retail shopping either at retail parks or online, making the odd trip into the town. Having spent most of my life in Richmond, I have watched the decline of a town centre closely, the empty business units there have now been replaced..... With charity shops and bakers, i can only see Darlington heading in the same direction, maybe with the addition of more bookmakers! Unfortunatly this is a national, not local problem. Many years ago i used to look forward to jumping on the bus and heading into Darington on a saturday with my friends, now i pretty much avoid the town centre. studio
  • Score: 17

10:44am Tue 28 Jan 14

youcantdenythetruth says...

Sorry but cars parking down Skinnergate is the last thing we need. The pedestrianization didn't go far enough in the first place as far as I'm concerned, with all the buses speeding around town. The re-introduction of street parking in the town would be a huge step backwards.

The reason these traders are losing money is because they cannot compete on price. The Internet and retail parks are the future and they're going to have to accept that fate I'm afraid. Town center shopping is becoming a thing of the past and no amount of car parking is going to rescue it from the steady decline we've seen over recent years.
Sorry but cars parking down Skinnergate is the last thing we need. The pedestrianization didn't go far enough in the first place as far as I'm concerned, with all the buses speeding around town. The re-introduction of street parking in the town would be a huge step backwards. The reason these traders are losing money is because they cannot compete on price. The Internet and retail parks are the future and they're going to have to accept that fate I'm afraid. Town center shopping is becoming a thing of the past and no amount of car parking is going to rescue it from the steady decline we've seen over recent years. youcantdenythetruth
  • Score: 13

12:40pm Tue 28 Jan 14

jane1.r says...

Go to Durham ,no chewy all over the floors , no swearing ,no chavs , or if you like second hand shops Richmond , parking in the square is free .
Go to Durham ,no chewy all over the floors , no swearing ,no chavs , or if you like second hand shops Richmond , parking in the square is free . jane1.r
  • Score: 9

12:49pm Tue 28 Jan 14

darloboss says...

darloboss shops at redcar loads of parking great shops good chippie and loads of lemon tops
darloboss shops at redcar loads of parking great shops good chippie and loads of lemon tops darloboss
  • Score: 4

1:23pm Tue 28 Jan 14

DL5opinion says...

Simple.
Give people the incentive to visit Darlington, then sales might rise again.
I live in Aycliffe but shop at Middlesbrough rather than Darlington for the simple reason of 2 hours of free parking.
Simple. Give people the incentive to visit Darlington, then sales might rise again. I live in Aycliffe but shop at Middlesbrough rather than Darlington for the simple reason of 2 hours of free parking. DL5opinion
  • Score: 22

2:44pm Tue 28 Jan 14

Lionel1 says...

youcantdenythetruth wrote:
Sorry but cars parking down Skinnergate is the last thing we need. The pedestrianization didn't go far enough in the first place as far as I'm concerned, with all the buses speeding around town. The re-introduction of street parking in the town would be a huge step backwards. The reason these traders are losing money is because they cannot compete on price. The Internet and retail parks are the future and they're going to have to accept that fate I'm afraid. Town center shopping is becoming a thing of the past and no amount of car parking is going to rescue it from the steady decline we've seen over recent years.
I'd agree that allowing cars to park permenantly in Skinnergate would be a backward step but the idea of limited time free parking in existing car parks (1 possibly 2 hours) would surely help traders and should be explored. DBC would take a hit on revenue income but it'd be better than 1 or 2 outlets trading in Skinnergate and totally uninviting to shoppers...
[quote][p][bold]youcantdenythetruth[/bold] wrote: Sorry but cars parking down Skinnergate is the last thing we need. The pedestrianization didn't go far enough in the first place as far as I'm concerned, with all the buses speeding around town. The re-introduction of street parking in the town would be a huge step backwards. The reason these traders are losing money is because they cannot compete on price. The Internet and retail parks are the future and they're going to have to accept that fate I'm afraid. Town center shopping is becoming a thing of the past and no amount of car parking is going to rescue it from the steady decline we've seen over recent years.[/p][/quote]I'd agree that allowing cars to park permenantly in Skinnergate would be a backward step but the idea of limited time free parking in existing car parks (1 possibly 2 hours) would surely help traders and should be explored. DBC would take a hit on revenue income but it'd be better than 1 or 2 outlets trading in Skinnergate and totally uninviting to shoppers... Lionel1
  • Score: 4

4:17pm Tue 28 Jan 14

Rosvanian says...

judygone wrote:
Don`t build your hopes up. DBC are brain dead egotistic`s.
"Brain dead egotistic's"

Irony overload............
......
[quote][p][bold]judygone[/bold] wrote: Don`t build your hopes up. DBC are brain dead egotistic`s.[/p][/quote]"Brain dead egotistic's" Irony overload............ ...... Rosvanian
  • Score: 0

4:23pm Tue 28 Jan 14

Rosvanian says...

oliviaden6 wrote:
Don't hold your breath DBC is totally immune to this plea. They are only interested if it makes more money for Bill and His Buddies, come up with a money making idea for the buggers and it will get a good hearing and result and the required result?
That's right. It's a well known fact that all money raised by DBC goes straight into the bank account of the leader of the Council and the Chief Executive. I reckon is probably a 60/40 split Bill / Ada.

But hang on - surely that means the parking revenue that will be received from permitting cars to park on the street will also go straight into their bank account.

There's something not right here.........
[quote][p][bold]oliviaden6[/bold] wrote: Don't hold your breath DBC is totally immune to this plea. They are only interested if it makes more money for Bill and His Buddies, come up with a money making idea for the buggers and it will get a good hearing and result and the required result?[/p][/quote]That's right. It's a well known fact that all money raised by DBC goes straight into the bank account of the leader of the Council and the Chief Executive. I reckon is probably a 60/40 split Bill / Ada. But hang on - surely that means the parking revenue that will be received from permitting cars to park on the street will also go straight into their bank account. There's something not right here......... Rosvanian
  • Score: 1

4:25pm Tue 28 Jan 14

roaduser98 says...

Knock the shops down and build some nice new houses. People would then be able to shop 'locally'.
Knock the shops down and build some nice new houses. People would then be able to shop 'locally'. roaduser98
  • Score: 2

4:36pm Tue 28 Jan 14

frankde says...

Three Sensible & Workable Steps
One Hour free street parking would help traders. Shoppers like to nip into certain shops for 10 minutes make a purchase & go, without fear of parking wardens.
Over one hour, yes charge them in the public car parks.
Town centre workers to have an allocated a discounted car park to prevent them hogging free spots.
Three Sensible & Workable Steps One Hour free street parking would help traders. Shoppers like to nip into certain shops for 10 minutes make a purchase & go, without fear of parking wardens. Over one hour, yes charge them in the public car parks. Town centre workers to have an allocated a discounted car park to prevent them hogging free spots. frankde
  • Score: 11

7:09pm Tue 28 Jan 14

harry2 says...

I went along skinner gate today to go Argos, apart from when I go there I never go along the shops, I noticed another shop closing so that doesn't really leave many,

Skinner gate needs something to bring people to it and on street parking isn't the answer it needs some good shops .

There are mainly charity shops who in my opinion are just selling items that are dearer than some of the shops selling new. , I used to look around charity shops but stopped when the prices raised
I went along skinner gate today to go Argos, apart from when I go there I never go along the shops, I noticed another shop closing so that doesn't really leave many, Skinner gate needs something to bring people to it and on street parking isn't the answer it needs some good shops . There are mainly charity shops who in my opinion are just selling items that are dearer than some of the shops selling new. , I used to look around charity shops but stopped when the prices raised harry2
  • Score: 7

7:19pm Tue 28 Jan 14

Mike B. says...

As the owner of a business in this area, I am not convinced that allowing cars back into Skinnergate would be beneficial. There is ample parking nearby, in Bells Place and Duke Street.
Pedestrianisation is a good thing, allowing a safe and pleasant environment for shoppers. Walk along Skinnergate on a nice lunchtime or a Saturday and you see families, students, older people, all milling around in safety. It would be a retrospective step to force people back onto narrow pavements if cars once again took priority.
There are many reasons why businesses in the town centre are suffering, most of them mentioned earlier in this thread by others, but allowing cars to mix with pedestrians is not, I think, the answer.
There was a pretty comprehensive consultation process by the Council, including a series of meetings in local cafes and the opportunity to comment on-line. It would seem that opinion is divided and that what people say out of politeness to another local trader when asked to support them, and what they actually believe and say in an official consultation, are not always the same thing!
As the owner of a business in this area, I am not convinced that allowing cars back into Skinnergate would be beneficial. There is ample parking nearby, in Bells Place and Duke Street. Pedestrianisation is a good thing, allowing a safe and pleasant environment for shoppers. Walk along Skinnergate on a nice lunchtime or a Saturday and you see families, students, older people, all milling around in safety. It would be a retrospective step to force people back onto narrow pavements if cars once again took priority. There are many reasons why businesses in the town centre are suffering, most of them mentioned earlier in this thread by others, but allowing cars to mix with pedestrians is not, I think, the answer. There was a pretty comprehensive consultation process by the Council, including a series of meetings in local cafes and the opportunity to comment on-line. It would seem that opinion is divided and that what people say out of politeness to another local trader when asked to support them, and what they actually believe and say in an official consultation, are not always the same thing! Mike B.
  • Score: 8

7:33pm Tue 28 Jan 14

Border Terrier says...

Darlington still retains its boring Quaker image.
There are 2 decent shops, Taylors butchers, and the Pound shop.
The rest are bliddy useless!
Darlington still retains its boring Quaker image. There are 2 decent shops, Taylors butchers, and the Pound shop. The rest are bliddy useless! Border Terrier
  • Score: -3

9:14pm Tue 28 Jan 14

Jackaranda says...

Border Terrier wrote:
Darlington still retains its boring Quaker image.
There are 2 decent shops, Taylors butchers, and the Pound shop.
The rest are bliddy useless!
And Thomas the Bakers, I like their cheese straws and chocolate coated flapjacks!! yum yum
[quote][p][bold]Border Terrier[/bold] wrote: Darlington still retains its boring Quaker image. There are 2 decent shops, Taylors butchers, and the Pound shop. The rest are bliddy useless![/p][/quote]And Thomas the Bakers, I like their cheese straws and chocolate coated flapjacks!! yum yum Jackaranda
  • Score: 1

9:17pm Tue 28 Jan 14

SS says...

I don't want to sound harsh, but parking isn't the issue here. If you are coming to Darlington to 'shop', what is down there really?? Charity shops and Argos. No offence to the Christian Bookshop lady, but even if they had a prime spot in the middle of the Cornmill Centre she is not exactly going to be swamped with customers.
I don't want to sound harsh, but parking isn't the issue here. If you are coming to Darlington to 'shop', what is down there really?? Charity shops and Argos. No offence to the Christian Bookshop lady, but even if they had a prime spot in the middle of the Cornmill Centre she is not exactly going to be swamped with customers. SS
  • Score: 7

3:02am Wed 29 Jan 14

peternorth says...

"Around a dozen shops on the street have closed down in the last year and many remaining traders say they are struggling to stay afloat. "

I see that much famed Business Improvement District is doing the trick. *slow clap
"Around a dozen shops on the street have closed down in the last year and many remaining traders say they are struggling to stay afloat. " I see that much famed Business Improvement District is doing the trick. *slow clap peternorth
  • Score: 5

1:50pm Wed 29 Jan 14

hullgodfreyshire says...

If you were to check out all the other areas in England that have introduced parking restrictions you will find they ALL have something in common .over half the shops are now EMPTY. no parking means NO CUSTOMERS, NO CUSTOMERS MEANS NO SHOPS. NO SHOPS MEAN NO PARKING FEES, IDIOT IN COUNCILS PLEASE READ AND REMEMBER.
If you were to check out all the other areas in England that have introduced parking restrictions you will find they ALL have something in common .over half the shops are now EMPTY. no parking means NO CUSTOMERS, NO CUSTOMERS MEANS NO SHOPS. NO SHOPS MEAN NO PARKING FEES, IDIOT IN COUNCILS PLEASE READ AND REMEMBER. hullgodfreyshire
  • Score: 4

3:56pm Wed 29 Jan 14

slimbo says...

People in Darlington are living in a socialist nightmare, you have a council you believes charging and taxing people more will lead to more money being spent in the town. You'll never be free of these buffoons until you stop voting in the nitwits you currently do. A former resident looking in!
People in Darlington are living in a socialist nightmare, you have a council you believes charging and taxing people more will lead to more money being spent in the town. You'll never be free of these buffoons until you stop voting in the nitwits you currently do. A former resident looking in! slimbo
  • Score: 10

8:41pm Wed 29 Jan 14

Homshaw1 says...

Jackaranda wrote:
Border Terrier wrote:
Darlington still retains its boring Quaker image.
There are 2 decent shops, Taylors butchers, and the Pound shop.
The rest are bliddy useless!
And Thomas the Bakers, I like their cheese straws and chocolate coated flapjacks!! yum yum
Even the Poundshops are bigger and better at Middlesbrough and there is even 99p shop which just about tips the balance.
[quote][p][bold]Jackaranda[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Border Terrier[/bold] wrote: Darlington still retains its boring Quaker image. There are 2 decent shops, Taylors butchers, and the Pound shop. The rest are bliddy useless![/p][/quote]And Thomas the Bakers, I like their cheese straws and chocolate coated flapjacks!! yum yum[/p][/quote]Even the Poundshops are bigger and better at Middlesbrough and there is even 99p shop which just about tips the balance. Homshaw1
  • Score: 2

9:03am Thu 30 Jan 14

Uxterr says...

In a climate when even the big retailers in the big cities and the retail parks are finding trading hard, even with their range of goods that people actually want at keen prices and free parking, is it really any surprise that small traders selling goods no one wants at prices no one wants to pay with small minded standards of service then fail to rise to the challenges they failed to identify when they first went into business?
Add to that people who will travel miles out of their way to save a couple of quid in parking charges.
I accept that some business is lost to parking charges, I accept that some people cannot walk to their preferred shop from where they choose to park, but its so easy to just moan about it isn't it!
In a climate when even the big retailers in the big cities and the retail parks are finding trading hard, even with their range of goods that people actually want at keen prices and free parking, is it really any surprise that small traders selling goods no one wants at prices no one wants to pay with small minded standards of service then fail to rise to the challenges they failed to identify when they first went into business? Add to that people who will travel miles out of their way to save a couple of quid in parking charges. I accept that some business is lost to parking charges, I accept that some people cannot walk to their preferred shop from where they choose to park, but its so easy to just moan about it isn't it! Uxterr
  • Score: 3

9:43am Thu 30 Jan 14

miketually says...

How many of these shops open until 7pm? That way they have free on-street parking right outside their door, and they're open at a more convenient time for many to shop.

None?
How many of these shops open until 7pm? That way they have free on-street parking right outside their door, and they're open at a more convenient time for many to shop. None? miketually
  • Score: -1

4:20pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Copley23 says...

Oh so it's nothing to do with the recession and increased on-line shopping then.

Oh silly me.
Oh so it's nothing to do with the recession and increased on-line shopping then. Oh silly me. Copley23
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8:27pm Fri 31 Jan 14

LUSTARD says...

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8:28pm Fri 31 Jan 14

LUSTARD says...

try commenting on anne macintosh .its cencored
try commenting on anne macintosh .its cencored LUSTARD
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10:07pm Fri 31 Jan 14

kristal27 says...

Tripe! Buy something in Argos and you can pick it up around the back. What the hell are you going to buy in Skinnergate that you cannot carry the few yards to the car parks? If you are disabled then buy your stuff on line and get it delivered! The demise of the High Street in towns all over the country has little to do with parking restrictions -retail is changing and shops need to change with the times (offer delivery services) not try to stay in a time warp and moan about it!
Tripe! Buy something in Argos and you can pick it up around the back. What the hell are you going to buy in Skinnergate that you cannot carry the few yards to the car parks? If you are disabled then buy your stuff on line and get it delivered! The demise of the High Street in towns all over the country has little to do with parking restrictions -retail is changing and shops need to change with the times (offer delivery services) not try to stay in a time warp and moan about it! kristal27
  • Score: 1

11:18am Sat 1 Feb 14

Lifetime Townie says...

How many times do see the council describing the town center as being "vibrant" . That's just nonsense when we look around and see the empty shops in the heart of the town. Be honest, DBC and get real, the town center as we knew it is dying. And replacing our Victorian High Row with this bland facade made the situation much worse.
How many times do see the council describing the town center as being "vibrant" . That's just nonsense when we look around and see the empty shops in the heart of the town. Be honest, DBC and get real, the town center as we knew it is dying. And replacing our Victorian High Row with this bland facade made the situation much worse. Lifetime Townie
  • Score: 5

7:18pm Sat 1 Feb 14

giggitty says...

Madadrian wrote:
Shops in Skinnergate and post hous wynd have lost several hundred pounds in sales to me over the years because it is easier for me to go to a retail park and load my purchases into the car outside the shop
Shops in Skinnergate and Post House Wynd have GAINED hundreds of ponds in sales from me over the years because its pedestrianised at the times i want to shop and its convenient.
[quote][p][bold]Madadrian[/bold] wrote: Shops in Skinnergate and post hous wynd have lost several hundred pounds in sales to me over the years because it is easier for me to go to a retail park and load my purchases into the car outside the shop[/p][/quote]Shops in Skinnergate and Post House Wynd have GAINED hundreds of ponds in sales from me over the years because its pedestrianised at the times i want to shop and its convenient. giggitty
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7:19pm Sat 1 Feb 14

giggitty says...

And POUNDS!
And POUNDS! giggitty
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1:57pm Mon 3 Feb 14

noctu says...

Even if parking was allowed in Skinnergate (which I don't think it should due to all of the reasons above), how much space is there, in reality, to park down there? Surely less than 15 (and that's being generous)! It won't exactly create a boon of business!
Even if parking was allowed in Skinnergate (which I don't think it should due to all of the reasons above), how much space is there, in reality, to park down there? Surely less than 15 (and that's being generous)! It won't exactly create a boon of business! noctu
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