'We just want to be treated with respect,' say Gypsies

The Northern Echo: MISUNDERSTOOD: Romany Gypsy sisters Julia (left) and Bridget Sample MISUNDERSTOOD: Romany Gypsy sisters Julia (left) and Bridget Sample

Members of the Gypsy community say they are subject to abuse, even racism, and should be allowed the chance of a home like everyone else. Chris Webber found out more.

ROMANI Gypsy sisters, Julie and Bridget Sample, sit on the doorstep of their everyday, modern Darlington home and tell their dreams of the open air life, a life they say is denied to them.

“Our mother was born in an old-fashioned Gypsy caravan,” says single mother-of-four Julia. “Mam and dad would cook outside every night on wood, we’d stay in a country area, a place with a stream and trees.

“But we can’t do that any more. Whenever we stopped anywhere there was hassle. The police and the council people would be called and we’d be moved on. In those circumstances you need a settled place.”

Bridget, who lives with her sister about 400 yards from Darlington’s Honeypot Lane council-run Gypsy site, says it took her about 12 months to get used to living in a house. She worries that the younger generation are losing their culture living so close to the settled community.

But she says that Gypsies, especially Romanis, are misunderstood and discriminated against instead of being treated with the respect they deserve.

“We get on with our neighbours and we have loads of respect. We always say ‘please’ and ‘thank you’ in the shop, although I do think some of the younger ones are less respectful than we were.

“We get abuse, get hawkers shouted at us, but people see we’re clean and respectful. We should be left alone and allowed to have somewhere to live like anyone else. It’s a very old-fashioned culture. Women like us can’t drink in public, have affairs and we’re very clean. It’s a good culture.”

Neighbours also living around L’anson Street and Spring Hill, off Whessoe Road, agreed they had little trouble from the nearby Gypsy site.

One mother-of-two, who nevertheless declined to give her name, said she not experienced any bother at all in nine years.

Dennis Edwards, who said he knew some Gypsies and got on with them, did say there was some low level anti-social behaviour including youngsters running around the estate and racing around on motorbikes, but nothing serious.

Police had blocked off the entrance to Honeypot Lane before, but it had not affected anyone he knew.

Joseph Jones, chairman of Britain’s Gypsy Council, argued it was unduly hard for Gypsies to win planning applications for accommodation and yet the wider community also wanted temporary sites closed.

He said Eric Pickles, Secretary of State for Local Government, had personally overseen “many” applications for Gypsy sites and had turned them all down, bar one.

Mr Jones revealed that an estimated 250,000 Gypsies and travellers from Eastern Europe, including Romania, were already living in the UK and that was likely to rise putting more pressure on accommodation.

“But those Gypsies will eventually become English Gypsies. You get people who regard themselves as upstanding members of the community standing outside planning committees with banners that are basically racist. In the future historians will look back on how Gypsies were treated with astonishment.

"You wouldn’t have Big Fat Pakistani Wedding on the telly, it wouldn’t even be thought of, and we just want to be treated with the respect given to other minorities.”

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6:38pm Wed 15 Jan 14

StanLaurels_CamelToe says...

Respect is a two way process. Given the proven displays of violence and theft from this community, they need to initiate the initial respect. Granted there is good and bad in every community and culture, all the evidence points to whether the majority of crime comes from. Start respecting the settled public and they'll start respecting you
Respect is a two way process. Given the proven displays of violence and theft from this community, they need to initiate the initial respect. Granted there is good and bad in every community and culture, all the evidence points to whether the majority of crime comes from. Start respecting the settled public and they'll start respecting you StanLaurels_CamelToe
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6:48pm Wed 15 Jan 14

Border Terrier says...

The mind boggles?
The mind boggles? Border Terrier
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6:51pm Wed 15 Jan 14

johnny_p says...

Racism? I thought being a traveller was a lifestyle choice.
Racism? I thought being a traveller was a lifestyle choice. johnny_p
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6:57pm Wed 15 Jan 14

HSC says...

Could start by getting dressed!
Could start by getting dressed! HSC
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7:52pm Wed 15 Jan 14

thevoiceofthevoiceless says...

Seriously echo can we get a balanced argument on "normal" resident opinion of the gypsies in darlington - you delete my opinion of these people
Seriously echo can we get a balanced argument on "normal" resident opinion of the gypsies in darlington - you delete my opinion of these people thevoiceofthevoiceless
  • Score: 63

8:01pm Wed 15 Jan 14

thevoiceofthevoiceless says...

Respect is earned by the way - treat the good people of darlington right, respect our traditions, pay rates and live within the law - sorted
Respect is earned by the way - treat the good people of darlington right, respect our traditions, pay rates and live within the law - sorted thevoiceofthevoiceless
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8:04pm Wed 15 Jan 14

Robert_ says...

Respect is earned.
Respect is earned. Robert_
  • Score: 71

8:14pm Wed 15 Jan 14

thevoiceofthevoiceless says...

Thought I would never say this but I will probably vote Tory in the next election as they seem to be wanting to do something about this issue - labour in darlington have just given the gypsies everything they want and to hell with the rest of us
Thought I would never say this but I will probably vote Tory in the next election as they seem to be wanting to do something about this issue - labour in darlington have just given the gypsies everything they want and to hell with the rest of us thevoiceofthevoiceless
  • Score: 95

8:17pm Wed 15 Jan 14

Border Terrier says...

thevoiceofthevoicele
ss
wrote:
Thought I would never say this but I will probably vote Tory in the next election as they seem to be wanting to do something about this issue - labour in darlington have just given the gypsies everything they want and to hell with the rest of us
"Strange" but true!
[quote][p][bold]thevoiceofthevoicele ss[/bold] wrote: Thought I would never say this but I will probably vote Tory in the next election as they seem to be wanting to do something about this issue - labour in darlington have just given the gypsies everything they want and to hell with the rest of us[/p][/quote]"Strange" but true! Border Terrier
  • Score: 58

8:23pm Wed 15 Jan 14

thevoiceofthevoiceless says...

It is strange but true and regardless of what opinion people have this is a big local issue in Darlington and the spineless labour council do nothing to address it - and the echo just but biased articles up every other week about how hard the gypsies have it here - when from what town folk see they have it so easy in this town it is an absolute joke

And if anyone writes anything negative the echo close the comments down and don't highlight it in the most comments list
It is strange but true and regardless of what opinion people have this is a big local issue in Darlington and the spineless labour council do nothing to address it - and the echo just but biased articles up every other week about how hard the gypsies have it here - when from what town folk see they have it so easy in this town it is an absolute joke And if anyone writes anything negative the echo close the comments down and don't highlight it in the most comments list thevoiceofthevoiceless
  • Score: 82

8:29pm Wed 15 Jan 14

behonest says...

'Members of the Gypsy community say they ...... should be allowed the chance of a home like everyone else'. And yet Julia and Bridget are sat on the step of their nice home. So they've been given the chance.

'Bridget worries that the younger generation are losing their culture living so close to the settled community.' This sounds a bit racist to me. If the younger ones decide to settle in with the settled community then so what? It's their choice how they live their lives.

'Women like us can’t drink in public, have affairs and we’re very clean. It’s a good culture.” Is it a good culture? Not being allowed by men to have a drink in public, being scared to have a relationship with who you want? It sounds to me like a very subservient culture for a gypsy woman.

'Mr Jones revealed that an estimated 250,000 Gypsies and travellers from Eastern Europe, including Romania, were already living in the UK.' And why is that I wonder? It wouldn't have anything to do with better access to benefits and services in the UK, by any chance? If they are sick of being moved on, and want to live in the open air, why don't they go to Romania or Eastern Europe - there's lots of open space there and I'll bet they won't get moved on. So what is the problem with doing this? I'd be interested to know their answer, given they are travellers and not keen on a 'settled community', so why does it matter where they live in the open?

I think we all know the answer.
'Members of the Gypsy community say they ...... should be allowed the chance of a home like everyone else'. And yet Julia and Bridget are sat on the step of their nice home. So they've been given the chance. 'Bridget worries that the younger generation are losing their culture living so close to the settled community.' This sounds a bit racist to me. If the younger ones decide to settle in with the settled community then so what? It's their choice how they live their lives. 'Women like us can’t drink in public, have affairs and we’re very clean. It’s a good culture.” Is it a good culture? Not being allowed by men to have a drink in public, being scared to have a relationship with who you want? It sounds to me like a very subservient culture for a gypsy woman. 'Mr Jones revealed that an estimated 250,000 Gypsies and travellers from Eastern Europe, including Romania, were already living in the UK.' And why is that I wonder? It wouldn't have anything to do with better access to benefits and services in the UK, by any chance? If they are sick of being moved on, and want to live in the open air, why don't they go to Romania or Eastern Europe - there's lots of open space there and I'll bet they won't get moved on. So what is the problem with doing this? I'd be interested to know their answer, given they are travellers and not keen on a 'settled community', so why does it matter where they live in the open? I think we all know the answer. behonest
  • Score: 102

8:34pm Wed 15 Jan 14

always your mum says...

how can a community who show a total disregard for the law ,double park in their gypsy rolls royces (tranny vans}have no respect for anybody else ,intimidate people who are unfortunate enough to cross their path ,the children are delinquent ,rude and show no respect at all.to put it into its proper context these people are a very large boil on the arse of the town ,they will never obtain respect a word that is totally alien to them .
how can a community who show a total disregard for the law ,double park in their gypsy rolls royces (tranny vans}have no respect for anybody else ,intimidate people who are unfortunate enough to cross their path ,the children are delinquent ,rude and show no respect at all.to put it into its proper context these people are a very large boil on the arse of the town ,they will never obtain respect a word that is totally alien to them . always your mum
  • Score: 148

9:12pm Wed 15 Jan 14

pager11 says...

thevoiceofthevoicele
ss
wrote:
It is strange but true and regardless of what opinion people have this is a big local issue in Darlington and the spineless labour council do nothing to address it - and the echo just but biased articles up every other week about how hard the gypsies have it here - when from what town folk see they have it so easy in this town it is an absolute joke

And if anyone writes anything negative the echo close the comments down and don't highlight it in the most comments list
Totall agree, I stopped buying the Echo months ago and so did some neighbours of ours, just read it on line. The council, the echo and police are all in cahoots with each other, now the gypsies have infiltrated the freemasons you have no chance, they have al their little meetings here with each other.
[quote][p][bold]thevoiceofthevoicele ss[/bold] wrote: It is strange but true and regardless of what opinion people have this is a big local issue in Darlington and the spineless labour council do nothing to address it - and the echo just but biased articles up every other week about how hard the gypsies have it here - when from what town folk see they have it so easy in this town it is an absolute joke And if anyone writes anything negative the echo close the comments down and don't highlight it in the most comments list[/p][/quote]Totall agree, I stopped buying the Echo months ago and so did some neighbours of ours, just read it on line. The council, the echo and police are all in cahoots with each other, now the gypsies have infiltrated the freemasons you have no chance, they have al their little meetings here with each other. pager11
  • Score: 46

9:19pm Wed 15 Jan 14

NO EINSTEIN says...

I know a lady in the legal profession, and they love Romany Gypsy's.

All i'm going to say is she has a second home now in warmer climates due to them.
I know a lady in the legal profession, and they love Romany Gypsy's. All i'm going to say is she has a second home now in warmer climates due to them. NO EINSTEIN
  • Score: 43

9:33pm Wed 15 Jan 14

maclaren says...

behonest wrote:
'Members of the Gypsy community say they ...... should be allowed the chance of a home like everyone else'. And yet Julia and Bridget are sat on the step of their nice home. So they've been given the chance.

'Bridget worries that the younger generation are losing their culture living so close to the settled community.' This sounds a bit racist to me. If the younger ones decide to settle in with the settled community then so what? It's their choice how they live their lives.

'Women like us can’t drink in public, have affairs and we’re very clean. It’s a good culture.” Is it a good culture? Not being allowed by men to have a drink in public, being scared to have a relationship with who you want? It sounds to me like a very subservient culture for a gypsy woman.

'Mr Jones revealed that an estimated 250,000 Gypsies and travellers from Eastern Europe, including Romania, were already living in the UK.' And why is that I wonder? It wouldn't have anything to do with better access to benefits and services in the UK, by any chance? If they are sick of being moved on, and want to live in the open air, why don't they go to Romania or Eastern Europe - there's lots of open space there and I'll bet they won't get moved on. So what is the problem with doing this? I'd be interested to know their answer, given they are travellers and not keen on a 'settled community', so why does it matter where they live in the open?

I think we all know the answer.
Absolutely perfectly put.
[quote][p][bold]behonest[/bold] wrote: 'Members of the Gypsy community say they ...... should be allowed the chance of a home like everyone else'. And yet Julia and Bridget are sat on the step of their nice home. So they've been given the chance. 'Bridget worries that the younger generation are losing their culture living so close to the settled community.' This sounds a bit racist to me. If the younger ones decide to settle in with the settled community then so what? It's their choice how they live their lives. 'Women like us can’t drink in public, have affairs and we’re very clean. It’s a good culture.” Is it a good culture? Not being allowed by men to have a drink in public, being scared to have a relationship with who you want? It sounds to me like a very subservient culture for a gypsy woman. 'Mr Jones revealed that an estimated 250,000 Gypsies and travellers from Eastern Europe, including Romania, were already living in the UK.' And why is that I wonder? It wouldn't have anything to do with better access to benefits and services in the UK, by any chance? If they are sick of being moved on, and want to live in the open air, why don't they go to Romania or Eastern Europe - there's lots of open space there and I'll bet they won't get moved on. So what is the problem with doing this? I'd be interested to know their answer, given they are travellers and not keen on a 'settled community', so why does it matter where they live in the open? I think we all know the answer.[/p][/quote]Absolutely perfectly put. maclaren
  • Score: 51

9:37pm Wed 15 Jan 14

thetruththewholetruthandnothingbutthetruth says...

Respect (especially for others) is a completely alien concept for the gypsy. They take what they want regardless and stick two fingers up to everyone, including the law.

Respect! Don't make me laugh.
Respect (especially for others) is a completely alien concept for the gypsy. They take what they want regardless and stick two fingers up to everyone, including the law. Respect! Don't make me laugh. thetruththewholetruthandnothingbutthetruth
  • Score: 80

9:44pm Wed 15 Jan 14

NO EINSTEIN says...

thetruththewholetrut
handnothingbutthetru
th
wrote:
Respect (especially for others) is a completely alien concept for the gypsy. They take what they want regardless and stick two fingers up to everyone, including the law.

Respect! Don't make me laugh.
My god a person like me who see's it how it is, respect thetruththewholetrut
handnothingbutthetru
th
[quote][p][bold]thetruththewholetrut handnothingbutthetru th[/bold] wrote: Respect (especially for others) is a completely alien concept for the gypsy. They take what they want regardless and stick two fingers up to everyone, including the law. Respect! Don't make me laugh.[/p][/quote]My god a person like me who see's it how it is, respect thetruththewholetrut handnothingbutthetru th NO EINSTEIN
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9:55pm Wed 15 Jan 14

MST1975 says...

Respect is earnt not given freely.

As should be the right to a house. Pay taxes and live buy the law.

Otherwise be a traveller and travel on through this country to somewhere else.
Respect is earnt not given freely. As should be the right to a house. Pay taxes and live buy the law. Otherwise be a traveller and travel on through this country to somewhere else. MST1975
  • Score: 51

9:56pm Wed 15 Jan 14

JJ2000 says...

What I say here is probably going to upset some folk who can't look past words, but I don't care as I have a right to make my point.

I cannot regard Gypsies as a community.
For me a community is 'Inclusive', that is to say it is tolerant and accepting of others who wish to be a part without the need for tests or membership.

Myself and every other 'non-gypsy' resident of Darlington would never be allowed to become Gypsies. Various reasons would be given; family blood line / heritage, spiritual beliefs etc. . .
This lack of acceptance for outsiders and self imposed idealistic status of being a gypsy is instead clan-like or Tribal. It is 'Exclusive', in that joining means 'membership' based on rules that are often arbitrary and at the whim of the group.

The fact the residents of Darlington take umbrage at Gypsies is due to the Gypsies total lack of respect of non-gypsies. Flaunting planning rules, using violence and intimidation against people who take issue with them, making money but failing to declare or pay tax on it, expecting the taxpayer to fund development sites for them with nothing in return and, as has happened here, playing the paradoxical racist card.

Racism is a form of treatment, abuse or discrimination based on traits that are not under the general control of the person. Colour, religious upbringing, ethnicity, disability, looks etc. . .
The complaints against Gypsies are based on their acts and proven disregard and disrespect for non-gypsies as briefly explained above. Therefore the complaints are not racist, but properly founded from past actions.

The community of Darlington welcomes anyone who wants to be a part of, involved with and contribute towards the town and its residents.

Can the Gypsy community please explain how they welcome a town resident into their group to become a Gypsy, or is this 'community' closed?

And as for the Gypsy TV shows, they clearly accepted the job by choice!
What I say here is probably going to upset some folk who can't look past words, but I don't care as I have a right to make my point. I cannot regard Gypsies as a community. For me a community is 'Inclusive', that is to say it is tolerant and accepting of others who wish to be a part without the need for tests or membership. Myself and every other 'non-gypsy' resident of Darlington would never be allowed to become Gypsies. Various reasons would be given; family blood line / heritage, spiritual beliefs etc. . . This lack of acceptance for outsiders and self imposed idealistic status of being a gypsy is instead clan-like or Tribal. It is 'Exclusive', in that joining means 'membership' based on rules that are often arbitrary and at the whim of the group. The fact the residents of Darlington take umbrage at Gypsies is due to the Gypsies total lack of respect of non-gypsies. Flaunting planning rules, using violence and intimidation against people who take issue with them, making money but failing to declare or pay tax on it, expecting the taxpayer to fund development sites for them with nothing in return and, as has happened here, playing the paradoxical racist card. Racism is a form of treatment, abuse or discrimination based on traits that are not under the general control of the person. Colour, religious upbringing, ethnicity, disability, looks etc. . . The complaints against Gypsies are based on their acts and proven disregard and disrespect for non-gypsies as briefly explained above. Therefore the complaints are not racist, but properly founded from past actions. The community of Darlington welcomes anyone who wants to be a part of, involved with and contribute towards the town and its residents. Can the Gypsy community please explain how they welcome a town resident into their group to become a Gypsy, or is this 'community' closed? And as for the Gypsy TV shows, they clearly accepted the job by choice! JJ2000
  • Score: 117

10:28pm Wed 15 Jan 14

MST1975 says...

No doubt these comments will soon disappear.
No doubt these comments will soon disappear. MST1975
  • Score: 45

10:38pm Wed 15 Jan 14

thevoiceofthevoiceless says...

I would like the council to state as to why we are providing more pitches, locations for the gypsies when other councils in tees valley and County Durham have refused to provide more?? (This was an article on the echo own website a few months back)
I would like the council to state as to why we are providing more pitches, locations for the gypsies when other councils in tees valley and County Durham have refused to provide more?? (This was an article on the echo own website a few months back) thevoiceofthevoiceless
  • Score: 42

11:13pm Wed 15 Jan 14

Awake-in-Darlo says...

Please God, let`s hope many of the comments here are not representative of Darlington people. The Traveller community make good scapegoats, probably just like any persons classed (by you lot) as "foreigners". i.e. not exactly like yourselves ! Judgemental ! Not much ! Assuming you are all perfect blameless citizens yourselves in all ways.
Look around this town properly, and you will see some far more offensive residents (white English and non-travellers) e.g. drug-addicted thieves, drunks of both genders, terrible drivers who cause road-traffic accidents, and it is not traveller girls trolling round late-night streets in a shambolic state. The council and police need to get tough with them. As with all serious lawbreaking whoever and wherever ; agreed.
Yes, respect DOES go two ways. Human beings all deserve respect. Sadly in individual cases, their conduct, or remarks, tests this theory .
Try not to generalise hey.
Please God, let`s hope many of the comments here are not representative of Darlington people. The Traveller community make good scapegoats, probably just like any persons classed (by you lot) as "foreigners". i.e. not exactly like yourselves ! Judgemental ! Not much ! Assuming you are all perfect blameless citizens yourselves in all ways. Look around this town properly, and you will see some far more offensive residents (white English and non-travellers) e.g. drug-addicted thieves, drunks of both genders, terrible drivers who cause road-traffic accidents, and it is not traveller girls trolling round late-night streets in a shambolic state. The council and police need to get tough with them. As with all serious lawbreaking whoever and wherever ; agreed. Yes, respect DOES go two ways. Human beings all deserve respect. Sadly in individual cases, their conduct, or remarks, tests this theory . Try not to generalise hey. Awake-in-Darlo
  • Score: -87

2:16am Thu 16 Jan 14

SirLance says...

Do the 'Traveller s' respect the Police? They do not. The Police are paid for by the taxpayers of Darlington to keep law and order. In fact the Police seem to have taken the 'stance' of 'no action' against Gypsy law breakers. That is to the disappointment of the Darlington folk, that's a big part of the resentment of travellers! How can respect be earned here? Miles to go here before a workable solution is found! 'A law unto themselves' comes to mind of the travellers in Darlington.
Do the 'Traveller s' respect the Police? They do not. The Police are paid for by the taxpayers of Darlington to keep law and order. In fact the Police seem to have taken the 'stance' of 'no action' against Gypsy law breakers. That is to the disappointment of the Darlington folk, that's a big part of the resentment of travellers! How can respect be earned here? Miles to go here before a workable solution is found! 'A law unto themselves' comes to mind of the travellers in Darlington. SirLance
  • Score: 57

4:34am Thu 16 Jan 14

flaxton says...

Respect is earned, not given as a matter of course. If you want respect, get a job and pay taxes and stop misbehaving and treating the place like a trash can.
Ask yourselves why every EU country is glad to see the back of you all!
Respect is earned, not given as a matter of course. If you want respect, get a job and pay taxes and stop misbehaving and treating the place like a trash can. Ask yourselves why every EU country is glad to see the back of you all! flaxton
  • Score: 42

5:17am Thu 16 Jan 14

thevoiceofthevoiceless says...

Awake-in-Darlo wrote:
Please God, let`s hope many of the comments here are not representative of Darlington people. The Traveller community make good scapegoats, probably just like any persons classed (by you lot) as "foreigners". i.e. not exactly like yourselves ! Judgemental ! Not much ! Assuming you are all perfect blameless citizens yourselves in all ways.
Look around this town properly, and you will see some far more offensive residents (white English and non-travellers) e.g. drug-addicted thieves, drunks of both genders, terrible drivers who cause road-traffic accidents, and it is not traveller girls trolling round late-night streets in a shambolic state. The council and police need to get tough with them. As with all serious lawbreaking whoever and wherever ; agreed.
Yes, respect DOES go two ways. Human beings all deserve respect. Sadly in individual cases, their conduct, or remarks, tests this theory .
Try not to generalise hey.
I would argue that no-one has generalised "foreigners" as you so delicately put it. The article relates to gypsies wanting respect and the comments reflect darlington people stance that respect is earn't and resentment stems from the fact that the gypsies seem to be out of bounds for the police or council to take ownership

I would say any generalisation comes from most peoples interaction with the gypsy which on the whole isn't positive and most people interaction with non-gypsy residents is probably on the whole less negative.

If the headline was white thieving smack heads want respect I would say similar themes around how to earn respect
[quote][p][bold]Awake-in-Darlo[/bold] wrote: Please God, let`s hope many of the comments here are not representative of Darlington people. The Traveller community make good scapegoats, probably just like any persons classed (by you lot) as "foreigners". i.e. not exactly like yourselves ! Judgemental ! Not much ! Assuming you are all perfect blameless citizens yourselves in all ways. Look around this town properly, and you will see some far more offensive residents (white English and non-travellers) e.g. drug-addicted thieves, drunks of both genders, terrible drivers who cause road-traffic accidents, and it is not traveller girls trolling round late-night streets in a shambolic state. The council and police need to get tough with them. As with all serious lawbreaking whoever and wherever ; agreed. Yes, respect DOES go two ways. Human beings all deserve respect. Sadly in individual cases, their conduct, or remarks, tests this theory . Try not to generalise hey.[/p][/quote]I would argue that no-one has generalised "foreigners" as you so delicately put it. The article relates to gypsies wanting respect and the comments reflect darlington people stance that respect is earn't and resentment stems from the fact that the gypsies seem to be out of bounds for the police or council to take ownership I would say any generalisation comes from most peoples interaction with the gypsy which on the whole isn't positive and most people interaction with non-gypsy residents is probably on the whole less negative. If the headline was white thieving smack heads want respect I would say similar themes around how to earn respect thevoiceofthevoiceless
  • Score: 48

7:46am Thu 16 Jan 14

darloboss says...

and we’re very clean. It’s a good culture.”
must be an off day then
and we’re very clean. It’s a good culture.” must be an off day then darloboss
  • Score: 33

8:41am Thu 16 Jan 14

DEDarlington says...

So glad to hear that everyone else in Darlington has a bright shiny halo above there heads! I think people need to get to know people/families before they judge!
So glad to hear that everyone else in Darlington has a bright shiny halo above there heads! I think people need to get to know people/families before they judge! DEDarlington
  • Score: -64

8:47am Thu 16 Jan 14

Jackaranda says...

“But those Gypsies will eventually become English Gypsies. You get people who regard themselves as upstanding members of the community standing outside planning committees with banners that are basically racist. In the future historians will look back on how Gypsies were treated with astonishment."

People who class themselves as upstanding members of the community probably don't have a racist bone in their bodies, they simply don't want to live next to the scum of the earth.
“But those Gypsies will eventually become English Gypsies. You get people who regard themselves as upstanding members of the community standing outside planning committees with banners that are basically racist. In the future historians will look back on how Gypsies were treated with astonishment." People who class themselves as upstanding members of the community probably don't have a racist bone in their bodies, they simply don't want to live next to the scum of the earth. Jackaranda
  • Score: 37

10:04am Thu 16 Jan 14

JJ2000 says...

'...Whenever we stopped anywhere there was hassle. The police and the council people would be called and we’d be moved on. In those circumstances you need a settled place.'

Perhaps the land was already owned.

'She worries that the younger generation are losing their culture living so close to the settled community.'

What? Tax paying residents are bad for Gypsies? Becoming a member of society is wrong? Sounds a little racist to me.

'We always say ‘please’ and ‘thank you’ in the shop, although I do think some of the younger ones are less respectful than we were.'

Now this i agree with. And it is primarily the younger ones who are a displaying the worst attitudes.

'Joseph Jones, chairman of Britain’s Gypsy Council, argued it was unduly hard for Gypsies to win planning applications for accommodation and yet the wider community also wanted temporary sites closed.'

Planning applications are a nightmare for ANYONE. And the word temporary means short / limited duration, not fixed until another solution is found.

"You wouldn’t have Big Fat Pakistani Wedding on the telly, it wouldn’t even be thought of, and we just want to be treated with the respect given to other minorities.”

As i said earlier, the show only went ahead because gypsies agreed to it!
And I've never had a problem with other minorities because they've never given me any cause for grief, and nor did the older (Pre-90's) gypsies.

Having the road blocked by a Mattress van as he talks to his friend blocking the other side of the road is frustrating.
Having them scream a shed load of verbal at you for beeping your horn, when most people would just pull into the side or drive on, is intimidating and hardly adheres one to the 'Respectful' Gypsy group.
'...Whenever we stopped anywhere there was hassle. The police and the council people would be called and we’d be moved on. In those circumstances you need a settled place.' Perhaps the land was already owned. 'She worries that the younger generation are losing their culture living so close to the settled community.' What? Tax paying residents are bad for Gypsies? Becoming a member of society is wrong? Sounds a little racist to me. 'We always say ‘please’ and ‘thank you’ in the shop, although I do think some of the younger ones are less respectful than we were.' Now this i agree with. And it is primarily the younger ones who are a displaying the worst attitudes. 'Joseph Jones, chairman of Britain’s Gypsy Council, argued it was unduly hard for Gypsies to win planning applications for accommodation and yet the wider community also wanted temporary sites closed.' Planning applications are a nightmare for ANYONE. And the word temporary means short / limited duration, not fixed until another solution is found. "You wouldn’t have Big Fat Pakistani Wedding on the telly, it wouldn’t even be thought of, and we just want to be treated with the respect given to other minorities.” As i said earlier, the show only went ahead because gypsies agreed to it! And I've never had a problem with other minorities because they've never given me any cause for grief, and nor did the older (Pre-90's) gypsies. Having the road blocked by a Mattress van as he talks to his friend blocking the other side of the road is frustrating. Having them scream a shed load of verbal at you for beeping your horn, when most people would just pull into the side or drive on, is intimidating and hardly adheres one to the 'Respectful' Gypsy group. JJ2000
  • Score: 66

10:15am Thu 16 Jan 14

thehogman says...

I was talking to a gypsy pastor some time ago, he referred to the younger people in his community becoming less 'respectful to the elders' and shying away from the travelers ideals; he finished the conversation by saying "I don't know what will become of them; they are no better than your young people now" !!!!????????????....
.......could have knocked me over with a feather
I was talking to a gypsy pastor some time ago, he referred to the younger people in his community becoming less 'respectful to the elders' and shying away from the travelers ideals; he finished the conversation by saying "I don't know what will become of them; they are no better than your young people now" !!!!????????????.... .......could have knocked me over with a feather thehogman
  • Score: 27

10:18am Thu 16 Jan 14

studio says...

L
L studio
  • Score: 2

10:24am Thu 16 Jan 14

studio says...

This story infuriates me. Im not racist, but they are destroying this already in decline town. Taking over certain areas, doing what they like, the ironic thing is, i got a ( deserved ) speeding ticket on Geneva road ( 34 mph ) and myself and the policeman nearly got taken out by 3 transit vans clearly racing and exceeding the speed i was doing, the policeman didnt even bat an eyelid. They are a law to themselves and fo rme deserve all the grief they receive. Yes, i am sure some of the travellers are upstanding citizens, however a majority are clearly not. Unlucky, you dont like the town???? then why dont you " Travel "

Read this quick before the Echo remove it!
This story infuriates me. Im not racist, but they are destroying this already in decline town. Taking over certain areas, doing what they like, the ironic thing is, i got a ( deserved ) speeding ticket on Geneva road ( 34 mph ) and myself and the policeman nearly got taken out by 3 transit vans clearly racing and exceeding the speed i was doing, the policeman didnt even bat an eyelid. They are a law to themselves and fo rme deserve all the grief they receive. Yes, i am sure some of the travellers are upstanding citizens, however a majority are clearly not. Unlucky, you dont like the town???? then why dont you " Travel " Read this quick before the Echo remove it! studio
  • Score: 62

11:44am Thu 16 Jan 14

traciesm says...

We live in a country thats soposed to have equwell rights so it dhouldnt matter on the religion colour raice or back ground u treet people the way u want to be treated yes they is a small group of gypsies in the town that are disrespectful and nasty but thats the same as none ttravelers aswell I certainly wouldnt have a problem living next to a gypsie but they should be made to live where they dont want to Ie house they should be more places made available for the travelling comunity to stay like hunny pot lane
We live in a country thats soposed to have equwell rights so it dhouldnt matter on the religion colour raice or back ground u treet people the way u want to be treated yes they is a small group of gypsies in the town that are disrespectful and nasty but thats the same as none ttravelers aswell I certainly wouldnt have a problem living next to a gypsie but they should be made to live where they dont want to Ie house they should be more places made available for the travelling comunity to stay like hunny pot lane traciesm
  • Score: -63

12:12pm Thu 16 Jan 14

cushybutterfield says...

Can anyone tell me what the difference is between a so called 'Gypsy and a Tinker ?. also Why ?. Ther is of course both a 'Positive and Negative' side of Gypsies and before anybody starts ranting, bleating and whinging about discrimination, I have actually carried out 'eye to eye' positive work in the past with what I would consider 'As proper decent lawabidding Gypsies'. ****On the other hand Unfortunately nowadays, some of 'Todays so called Gypsies' (Not all of Course) believe they are distinctly,........ 'Above the Law'....and in some cases consider they are ***immune***.from prosecution if and when some break the Law......... and further more when some of these people (again not all)......... are on their wanderings, 'coincidentally' there is a more than often a regular factual pattern' of valuable lead and copper that mysteriously goes for 'walkies' and in some cases certain 'Gypsies or Tinkers' and White Van pure 'Scrappies' , have acutally been arrested for both vandalising and stealing our ***sacred Copper and lead. Few country church roofs are not safe and some Gypsies, Tinkers and so called 'Scrappies' some general 'White Van Thieving Scappies' and guess what ?, some conveniently 'blame each other'.. Some 'Gypsie and or Tinker (and Van 'Scrappie') encampments' that have been raided by Police and a number of long proved stolen vehicles (identites changed of course) have been recovered.
Can anyone tell me what the difference is between a so called 'Gypsy and a Tinker ?. also Why ?. Ther is of course both a 'Positive and Negative' side of Gypsies and before anybody starts ranting, bleating and whinging about discrimination, I have actually carried out 'eye to eye' positive work in the past with what I would consider 'As proper decent lawabidding Gypsies'. ****On the other hand Unfortunately nowadays, some of 'Todays so called Gypsies' (Not all of Course) believe they are distinctly,........ 'Above the Law'....and in some cases consider they are ***immune***.from prosecution if and when some break the Law......... and further more when some of these people (again not all)......... are on their wanderings, 'coincidentally' there is a more than often a regular factual pattern' of valuable lead and copper that mysteriously goes for 'walkies' and in some cases certain 'Gypsies or Tinkers' and White Van pure 'Scrappies' , have acutally been arrested for both vandalising and stealing our ***sacred Copper and lead. Few country church roofs are not safe and some Gypsies, Tinkers and so called 'Scrappies' some general 'White Van Thieving Scappies' and guess what ?, some conveniently 'blame each other'.. Some 'Gypsie and or Tinker (and Van 'Scrappie') encampments' that have been raided by Police and a number of long proved stolen vehicles (identites changed of course) have been recovered. cushybutterfield
  • Score: 20

12:21pm Thu 16 Jan 14

thevoiceofthevoiceless says...

Here is a crazy idea - why don't the echo do some investigative journalism into how the town feel about the gypsy community and the impact they have I'm sure people would happily send images of then breaking the law
Here is a crazy idea - why don't the echo do some investigative journalism into how the town feel about the gypsy community and the impact they have I'm sure people would happily send images of then breaking the law thevoiceofthevoiceless
  • Score: 45

12:23pm Thu 16 Jan 14

thevoiceofthevoiceless says...

Or if they sit outside honeypot lane, Geneva road or yarm road for a day they can see for themselves
Or if they sit outside honeypot lane, Geneva road or yarm road for a day they can see for themselves thevoiceofthevoiceless
  • Score: 34

12:25pm Thu 16 Jan 14

studio says...

traciesm wrote:
We live in a country thats soposed to have equwell rights so it dhouldnt matter on the religion colour raice or back ground u treet people the way u want to be treated yes they is a small group of gypsies in the town that are disrespectful and nasty but thats the same as none ttravelers aswell I certainly wouldnt have a problem living next to a gypsie but they should be made to live where they dont want to Ie house they should be more places made available for the travelling comunity to stay like hunny pot lane
I`m assuming you did plenty of travelling whilst English lessons were on?
[quote][p][bold]traciesm[/bold] wrote: We live in a country thats soposed to have equwell rights so it dhouldnt matter on the religion colour raice or back ground u treet people the way u want to be treated yes they is a small group of gypsies in the town that are disrespectful and nasty but thats the same as none ttravelers aswell I certainly wouldnt have a problem living next to a gypsie but they should be made to live where they dont want to Ie house they should be more places made available for the travelling comunity to stay like hunny pot lane[/p][/quote]I`m assuming you did plenty of travelling whilst English lessons were on? studio
  • Score: 58

12:26pm Thu 16 Jan 14

cushybutterfield says...

As regards common sense ****crime prevention, I have lived in both 'Town and Countryside'. It is common knowledge that a minority of 'Roving thieving Scrappies' of various Ilks and cultures, hide inside covered Vans of varying descriptions, some of these vehicles have Ex-Legitamate, Ex 'Business Firms and businesses'***** Markings and writings on them*** (or Painted-Over, to look okay) and on first sight look perfectly okay with their **YELLOW PLASTIC TOP but unfortunately a minority are intent on thieving lead from either Church Roofs, Railway Copper Cable, Farm Houses and outbuildings etc, etc, etc, You know it makes sense Keep them eyes peeled..and report anonymously any suspicious Vehicle(s) or Persons. and claim a BIG REWARD.
As regards common sense ****crime prevention, I have lived in both 'Town and Countryside'. It is common knowledge that a minority of 'Roving thieving Scrappies' of various Ilks and cultures, hide inside covered Vans of varying descriptions, some of these vehicles have Ex-Legitamate, Ex 'Business Firms and businesses'***** Markings and writings on them*** (or Painted-Over, to look okay) and on first sight look perfectly okay with their **YELLOW PLASTIC TOP but unfortunately a minority are intent on thieving lead from either Church Roofs, Railway Copper Cable, Farm Houses and outbuildings etc, etc, etc, You know it makes sense Keep them eyes peeled..and report anonymously any suspicious Vehicle(s) or Persons. and claim a BIG REWARD. cushybutterfield
  • Score: 13

2:57pm Thu 16 Jan 14

onionseller says...

A clever trick is being used by the gypsies and should not be ignored.
Any complaints against them and "racism" is shouted loud and clear.
I'm white and English.
Most Darlington gypsies are white and English.
There is no racism but that is what they are trying to change.
They want to be a separate race so they can use the "racist card" when it suits
They are a different culture , but the last I can remember is the law of the land applies to everyone regardless of culture.
The main issues are total lack of integration, education, respect for the law and respect for non-traveller people and their culture.
A clever trick is being used by the gypsies and should not be ignored. Any complaints against them and "racism" is shouted loud and clear. I'm white and English. Most Darlington gypsies are white and English. There is no racism but that is what they are trying to change. They want to be a separate race so they can use the "racist card" when it suits They are a different culture , but the last I can remember is the law of the land applies to everyone regardless of culture. The main issues are total lack of integration, education, respect for the law and respect for non-traveller people and their culture. onionseller
  • Score: 52

5:48pm Thu 16 Jan 14

Spy Boy says...

I wonder why 'a spokeswoman from the council' doesn't get into print on this page, the council must be aware of it. All they need to do is show examples. This works both ways. You can't just blame Gypsies for everything. There are plenty of non-Gypsies causing grief and driving dangerously around the town. You see them every day.
I wonder why 'a spokeswoman from the council' doesn't get into print on this page, the council must be aware of it. All they need to do is show examples. This works both ways. You can't just blame Gypsies for everything. There are plenty of non-Gypsies causing grief and driving dangerously around the town. You see them every day. Spy Boy
  • Score: -16

6:28pm Thu 16 Jan 14

cushybutterfield says...

Here is a few simple Questions re todays so called modern day Gypsies and Tinkers. (1) As most Gypsies and Tinkers by historical culture are travellers and invariably most of the time are considered of 'No Fixed Abode'. Question One. How then exactly ? do most make a living to feed their families......... (2) How then do they receive 'Free State Benefits in different parts of the Country'. I remember not so many years ago a 'cheerful character Gypsie 'with the genuine Surname ****SMITH, he again cheerfully told me that he had no money problems because he had registered himself for all 'Free British State' Benefits at varying City and Town Benefit Offices thus receiving multipil Free Benefit State Handouts, travelling to and from the different benefit offices if and when necessary and signing his name with a big.....X... (Honestly I am not kidding) and he therefore lived the life of Riley on the 'open-road'. This did not surprise me personally one iota because our daft pathetic vulnerable open to all, 'British benefit system' has been and still is rife with claimant abuse.
Here is a few simple Questions re todays so called modern day Gypsies and Tinkers. (1) As most Gypsies and Tinkers by historical culture are travellers and invariably most of the time are considered of 'No Fixed Abode'. Question One. How then exactly ? do most make a living to feed their families......... (2) How then do they receive 'Free State Benefits in different parts of the Country'. I remember not so many years ago a 'cheerful character Gypsie 'with the genuine Surname ****SMITH, he again cheerfully told me that he had no money problems because he had registered himself for all 'Free British State' Benefits at varying City and Town Benefit Offices thus receiving multipil Free Benefit State Handouts, travelling to and from the different benefit offices if and when necessary and signing his name with a big.....X... (Honestly I am not kidding) and he therefore lived the life of Riley on the 'open-road'. This did not surprise me personally one iota because our daft pathetic vulnerable open to all, 'British benefit system' has been and still is rife with claimant abuse. cushybutterfield
  • Score: 24

7:40pm Thu 16 Jan 14

justiceric says...

These gypsies like any other migrants should obey the laws of the country. Otherwise, governments will have a right to DEPORT them back to their countries and the EU must consider this issue of respect for the laws of the countries very seriously, if it does not want to see its fragmentation. Enough is enough!!!!
These gypsies like any other migrants should obey the laws of the country. Otherwise, governments will have a right to DEPORT them back to their countries and the EU must consider this issue of respect for the laws of the countries very seriously, if it does not want to see its fragmentation. Enough is enough!!!! justiceric
  • Score: 24

8:48pm Thu 16 Jan 14

cushybutterfield says...

justeric..in reply. I totally respect your comments but..........You have no chance the 'Europeon Union and Britisih Liberal Party have blocked any chance even of immigrants living in Britain convicted of serious, serious Crime for example Murder and Rape of ***ever be evicted and deported from Britain. Why ?..... because of the Europeon Union and British Liberal (Clegg) are as much use as a 'chocolate fireguard. ***Corrupt backed, twisted so called modern day morality called Europeon EU, so called human rights. The quicker we either 'exit or change dramitically this corrupt Europeon Union' and their evil interpretation of so called Human Rights the better. The British Liberal Party nowadays, in this respect are a shocking laughing stock with the majority of decent working class people. We all know who to ****vote fo next time around***** to and rid ourselves of these lying, minipulative, 'economical with the truth 'liberal and labour Politicians'', (including the condoning 'Far-Lefties') who the majority of whom never have and never have and will never fully back decent 'Working' (Thats those who actually do a job of work) , working class people of Britain.
justeric..in reply. I totally respect your comments but..........You have no chance the 'Europeon Union and Britisih Liberal Party have blocked any chance even of immigrants living in Britain convicted of serious, serious Crime for example Murder and Rape of ***ever be evicted and deported from Britain. Why ?..... because of the Europeon Union and British Liberal (Clegg) are as much use as a 'chocolate fireguard. ***Corrupt backed, twisted so called modern day morality called Europeon EU, so called human rights. The quicker we either 'exit or change dramitically this corrupt Europeon Union' and their evil interpretation of so called Human Rights the better. The British Liberal Party nowadays, in this respect are a shocking laughing stock with the majority of decent working class people. We all know who to ****vote fo next time around***** to and rid ourselves of these lying, minipulative, 'economical with the truth 'liberal and labour Politicians'', (including the condoning 'Far-Lefties') who the majority of whom never have and never have and will never fully back decent 'Working' (Thats those who actually do a job of work) , working class people of Britain. cushybutterfield
  • Score: 3

9:01pm Thu 16 Jan 14

cushybutterfield says...

Continued...*******.
We all know where hordes of British forgotten, ignored, disheartened,defeate
d, dissafected, fed up, decent working class people in Britain,, are finally turning to. (For decades they have never been listened to, or taken seriously on major issues (Like Crime and immigration). ....................
..and they will certainly NOT Vote for Labour, (Ed and his troopers), the far 'Lefties', or the Liberals, they have all had enough of years of 'Politically Correct' brainwashing and 'Anti-British claptrap. Yes they will certainly honestly and determinaly vote with their feet.
Continued...*******. We all know where hordes of British forgotten, ignored, disheartened,defeate d, dissafected, fed up, decent working class people in Britain,, are finally turning to. (For decades they have never been listened to, or taken seriously on major issues (Like Crime and immigration). .................... ..and they will certainly NOT Vote for Labour, (Ed and his troopers), the far 'Lefties', or the Liberals, they have all had enough of years of 'Politically Correct' brainwashing and 'Anti-British claptrap. Yes they will certainly honestly and determinaly vote with their feet. cushybutterfield
  • Score: 2

11:20pm Thu 16 Jan 14

Stewed says...

Come on cushy, don't hold back with your views. Please enlighten us and tell us who you are voting for?
Come on cushy, don't hold back with your views. Please enlighten us and tell us who you are voting for? Stewed
  • Score: -2

12:29am Fri 17 Jan 14

always your mum says...

traciesm wrote:
We live in a country thats soposed to have equwell rights so it dhouldnt matter on the religion colour raice or back ground u treet people the way u want to be treated yes they is a small group of gypsies in the town that are disrespectful and nasty but thats the same as none ttravelers aswell I certainly wouldnt have a problem living next to a gypsie but they should be made to live where they dont want to Ie house they should be more places made available for the travelling comunity to stay like hunny pot lane
i want you to enter a speelling compootishon
[quote][p][bold]traciesm[/bold] wrote: We live in a country thats soposed to have equwell rights so it dhouldnt matter on the religion colour raice or back ground u treet people the way u want to be treated yes they is a small group of gypsies in the town that are disrespectful and nasty but thats the same as none ttravelers aswell I certainly wouldnt have a problem living next to a gypsie but they should be made to live where they dont want to Ie house they should be more places made available for the travelling comunity to stay like hunny pot lane[/p][/quote]i want you to enter a speelling compootishon always your mum
  • Score: 14

1:44am Fri 17 Jan 14

CurlyChris says...

cushybutterfield wrote:
justeric..in reply. I totally respect your comments but..........You have no chance the 'Europeon Union and Britisih Liberal Party have blocked any chance even of immigrants living in Britain convicted of serious, serious Crime for example Murder and Rape of ***ever be evicted and deported from Britain. Why ?..... because of the Europeon Union and British Liberal (Clegg) are as much use as a 'chocolate fireguard. ***Corrupt backed, twisted so called modern day morality called Europeon EU, so called human rights. The quicker we either 'exit or change dramitically this corrupt Europeon Union' and their evil interpretation of so called Human Rights the better. The British Liberal Party nowadays, in this respect are a shocking laughing stock with the majority of decent working class people. We all know who to ****vote fo next time around***** to and rid ourselves of these lying, minipulative, 'economical with the truth 'liberal and labour Politicians'', (including the condoning 'Far-Lefties') who the majority of whom never have and never have and will never fully back decent 'Working' (Thats those who actually do a job of work) , working class people of Britain.
Cushybutterfield, you seem to have a problem with the 'British Liberal Party', led by Clegg. Are you not aware that Nick Clegg is the leader of the Liberal Democrats, formerly the Liberal Democratic Party, which was formed in 1988 when the then Liberal Party merged with the Social Democratic Party? The current Liberal Party, which was formed in 1989 by those Liberals opposed to the merger, have no MPs or MEPs, and hold very few Council seats. I thought I'd point this out, as I didn't want you to put your 'X' in the wrong box come the next election.
[quote][p][bold]cushybutterfield[/bold] wrote: justeric..in reply. I totally respect your comments but..........You have no chance the 'Europeon Union and Britisih Liberal Party have blocked any chance even of immigrants living in Britain convicted of serious, serious Crime for example Murder and Rape of ***ever be evicted and deported from Britain. Why ?..... because of the Europeon Union and British Liberal (Clegg) are as much use as a 'chocolate fireguard. ***Corrupt backed, twisted so called modern day morality called Europeon EU, so called human rights. The quicker we either 'exit or change dramitically this corrupt Europeon Union' and their evil interpretation of so called Human Rights the better. The British Liberal Party nowadays, in this respect are a shocking laughing stock with the majority of decent working class people. We all know who to ****vote fo next time around***** to and rid ourselves of these lying, minipulative, 'economical with the truth 'liberal and labour Politicians'', (including the condoning 'Far-Lefties') who the majority of whom never have and never have and will never fully back decent 'Working' (Thats those who actually do a job of work) , working class people of Britain.[/p][/quote]Cushybutterfield, you seem to have a problem with the 'British Liberal Party', led by Clegg. Are you not aware that Nick Clegg is the leader of the Liberal Democrats, formerly the Liberal Democratic Party, which was formed in 1988 when the then Liberal Party merged with the Social Democratic Party? The current Liberal Party, which was formed in 1989 by those Liberals opposed to the merger, have no MPs or MEPs, and hold very few Council seats. I thought I'd point this out, as I didn't want you to put your 'X' in the wrong box come the next election. CurlyChris
  • Score: -6

8:02am Fri 17 Jan 14

Jackaranda says...

CurlyChris wrote:
cushybutterfield wrote:
justeric..in reply. I totally respect your comments but..........You have no chance the 'Europeon Union and Britisih Liberal Party have blocked any chance even of immigrants living in Britain convicted of serious, serious Crime for example Murder and Rape of ***ever be evicted and deported from Britain. Why ?..... because of the Europeon Union and British Liberal (Clegg) are as much use as a 'chocolate fireguard. ***Corrupt backed, twisted so called modern day morality called Europeon EU, so called human rights. The quicker we either 'exit or change dramitically this corrupt Europeon Union' and their evil interpretation of so called Human Rights the better. The British Liberal Party nowadays, in this respect are a shocking laughing stock with the majority of decent working class people. We all know who to ****vote fo next time around***** to and rid ourselves of these lying, minipulative, 'economical with the truth 'liberal and labour Politicians'', (including the condoning 'Far-Lefties') who the majority of whom never have and never have and will never fully back decent 'Working' (Thats those who actually do a job of work) , working class people of Britain.
Cushybutterfield, you seem to have a problem with the 'British Liberal Party', led by Clegg. Are you not aware that Nick Clegg is the leader of the Liberal Democrats, formerly the Liberal Democratic Party, which was formed in 1988 when the then Liberal Party merged with the Social Democratic Party? The current Liberal Party, which was formed in 1989 by those Liberals opposed to the merger, have no MPs or MEPs, and hold very few Council seats. I thought I'd point this out, as I didn't want you to put your 'X' in the wrong box come the next election.
Kinnell, if any one puts their 'X' next to any of those you've mentioned then we really are a busted flush!!
[quote][p][bold]CurlyChris[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cushybutterfield[/bold] wrote: justeric..in reply. I totally respect your comments but..........You have no chance the 'Europeon Union and Britisih Liberal Party have blocked any chance even of immigrants living in Britain convicted of serious, serious Crime for example Murder and Rape of ***ever be evicted and deported from Britain. Why ?..... because of the Europeon Union and British Liberal (Clegg) are as much use as a 'chocolate fireguard. ***Corrupt backed, twisted so called modern day morality called Europeon EU, so called human rights. The quicker we either 'exit or change dramitically this corrupt Europeon Union' and their evil interpretation of so called Human Rights the better. The British Liberal Party nowadays, in this respect are a shocking laughing stock with the majority of decent working class people. We all know who to ****vote fo next time around***** to and rid ourselves of these lying, minipulative, 'economical with the truth 'liberal and labour Politicians'', (including the condoning 'Far-Lefties') who the majority of whom never have and never have and will never fully back decent 'Working' (Thats those who actually do a job of work) , working class people of Britain.[/p][/quote]Cushybutterfield, you seem to have a problem with the 'British Liberal Party', led by Clegg. Are you not aware that Nick Clegg is the leader of the Liberal Democrats, formerly the Liberal Democratic Party, which was formed in 1988 when the then Liberal Party merged with the Social Democratic Party? The current Liberal Party, which was formed in 1989 by those Liberals opposed to the merger, have no MPs or MEPs, and hold very few Council seats. I thought I'd point this out, as I didn't want you to put your 'X' in the wrong box come the next election.[/p][/quote]Kinnell, if any one puts their 'X' next to any of those you've mentioned then we really are a busted flush!! Jackaranda
  • Score: 3

4:58pm Fri 17 Jan 14

OldBiddyFrom Barney says...

If you want to see the difference between Irish Travellers and Romany Gypsy google Pearl and Lisamarie Stowe You Tube. If you can looked at those two young ones and feel only fear and loathing I feel very sorry for you
If you want to see the difference between Irish Travellers and Romany Gypsy google Pearl and Lisamarie Stowe You Tube. If you can looked at those two young ones and feel only fear and loathing I feel very sorry for you OldBiddyFrom Barney
  • Score: -5

8:28pm Fri 17 Jan 14

justathought. says...

traciesm wrote:
We live in a country thats soposed to have equwell rights so it dhouldnt matter on the religion colour raice or back ground u treet people the way u want to be treated yes they is a small group of gypsies in the town that are disrespectful and nasty but thats the same as none ttravelers aswell I certainly wouldnt have a problem living next to a gypsie but they should be made to live where they dont want to Ie house they should be more places made available for the travelling comunity to stay like hunny pot lane
Judging by your spelling it doesn't take much to work out why you are so defensive about them.
[quote][p][bold]traciesm[/bold] wrote: We live in a country thats soposed to have equwell rights so it dhouldnt matter on the religion colour raice or back ground u treet people the way u want to be treated yes they is a small group of gypsies in the town that are disrespectful and nasty but thats the same as none ttravelers aswell I certainly wouldnt have a problem living next to a gypsie but they should be made to live where they dont want to Ie house they should be more places made available for the travelling comunity to stay like hunny pot lane[/p][/quote]Judging by your spelling it doesn't take much to work out why you are so defensive about them. justathought.
  • Score: 15

9:30pm Fri 17 Jan 14

maur1 says...

I would respect them more if they had got dressed for the photo instead sitting on door step pyjamas laziness to me
I would respect them more if they had got dressed for the photo instead sitting on door step pyjamas laziness to me maur1
  • Score: 18

4:06am Sat 18 Jan 14

snudge says...

flaxton wrote:
Respect is earned, not given as a matter of course. If you want respect, get a job and pay taxes and stop misbehaving and treating the place like a trash can.
Ask yourselves why every EU country is glad to see the back of you all!
I agree respect is earned. This applies to police, politicians, judges etc.It is not by having a certain job or uniform.
[quote][p][bold]flaxton[/bold] wrote: Respect is earned, not given as a matter of course. If you want respect, get a job and pay taxes and stop misbehaving and treating the place like a trash can. Ask yourselves why every EU country is glad to see the back of you all![/p][/quote]I agree respect is earned. This applies to police, politicians, judges etc.It is not by having a certain job or uniform. snudge
  • Score: 7

7:42am Sat 18 Jan 14

hottopic says...

They always want to be on the side which is beneficial at that moment, there is no consistencey in there outlook on life and others.
They always want to be on the side which is beneficial at that moment, there is no consistencey in there outlook on life and others. hottopic
  • Score: 4

11:16am Sat 18 Jan 14

boysibandit says...

Why do people think it's acceptable to live their day to day life in pajamas and dressing gowns even to the point of shopping and taking the kids to school ,get up get dressed and go to work !!!
Why do people think it's acceptable to live their day to day life in pajamas and dressing gowns even to the point of shopping and taking the kids to school ,get up get dressed and go to work !!! boysibandit
  • Score: 24

1:48pm Sat 18 Jan 14

English lad says...

If they want to be treat the same then act the same as everyone else, in darlo we have polish, Muslim, Turks, Eastern European and we all get along fine but gypsies don't integrate with anyone but their own unless they are taking money off you or ripping off some poor pensioner of their life savings for a loose roof tile or garden work, everyone knows the mattress vans are a front for all their illegal dealings but the police and council turn a blind eye! Darlington is the gypsy town of England!
If they want to be treat the same then act the same as everyone else, in darlo we have polish, Muslim, Turks, Eastern European and we all get along fine but gypsies don't integrate with anyone but their own unless they are taking money off you or ripping off some poor pensioner of their life savings for a loose roof tile or garden work, everyone knows the mattress vans are a front for all their illegal dealings but the police and council turn a blind eye! Darlington is the gypsy town of England! English lad
  • Score: 27

3:44pm Sat 18 Jan 14

cushybutterfield says...

'I am erring 'towards UKIP' and certain will not vote for Ed Mill and his Merry men, . I watched question time the other night and quite frankly I was both apalled and disgusted with the mainly 'inept' answers of the 'Liberal Coucillor' on a number of major issues that have effected Britain for decades. AS regards Immigration the Liberal punter inferred there would 'Never be ***ANY cap on immigrants coming into Britain either now or in the future' when Britains infrastructue just cannot cope anymore. (Re NHS, Housing, Benefits). Be honest put you own 'political and point scoring bias to one side for just once', there has (and is) historically been a dearth of Jobs to to a certain degree Housing in the 'North East of England' and yet another Two Million immigrants are on their way from Romania and Bulgaria this year, is there no limit ? before Britains social infrastucture completely collapses.
'I am erring 'towards UKIP' and certain will not vote for Ed Mill and his Merry men, . I watched question time the other night and quite frankly I was both apalled and disgusted with the mainly 'inept' answers of the 'Liberal Coucillor' on a number of major issues that have effected Britain for decades. AS regards Immigration the Liberal punter inferred there would 'Never be ***ANY cap on immigrants coming into Britain either now or in the future' when Britains infrastructue just cannot cope anymore. (Re NHS, Housing, Benefits). Be honest put you own 'political and point scoring bias to one side for just once', there has (and is) historically been a dearth of Jobs to to a certain degree Housing in the 'North East of England' and yet another Two Million immigrants are on their way from Romania and Bulgaria this year, is there no limit ? before Britains social infrastucture completely collapses. cushybutterfield
  • Score: 11

4:53pm Sat 18 Jan 14

traciesm says...

justathought. wrote:
traciesm wrote:
We live in a country thats soposed to have equwell rights so it dhouldnt matter on the religion colour raice or back ground u treet people the way u want to be treated yes they is a small group of gypsies in the town that are disrespectful and nasty but thats the same as none ttravelers aswell I certainly wouldnt have a problem living next to a gypsie but they should be made to live where they dont want to Ie house they should be more places made available for the travelling comunity to stay like hunny pot lane
Judging by your spelling it doesn't take much to work out why you are so defensive about them.
Wats that ment to mean if u are trying to say im a gypsie then im not as for school I found it boring but still went everyday so wat my spellings crap who cares
[quote][p][bold]justathought.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]traciesm[/bold] wrote: We live in a country thats soposed to have equwell rights so it dhouldnt matter on the religion colour raice or back ground u treet people the way u want to be treated yes they is a small group of gypsies in the town that are disrespectful and nasty but thats the same as none ttravelers aswell I certainly wouldnt have a problem living next to a gypsie but they should be made to live where they dont want to Ie house they should be more places made available for the travelling comunity to stay like hunny pot lane[/p][/quote]Judging by your spelling it doesn't take much to work out why you are so defensive about them.[/p][/quote]Wats that ment to mean if u are trying to say im a gypsie then im not as for school I found it boring but still went everyday so wat my spellings crap who cares traciesm
  • Score: -27

6:09pm Sat 18 Jan 14

punkrocker says...

not long ago witnessed 3 young traveller girls abusing 2 younger lasses on bus stop in darlington. after threatening to smash the younger kid's faces in they said go to police and then we will get to find out who you are as police are frightened of us. unbelieveable that 16 / late teen traveller lasses have this attitude. however when anyone threatens them its racism and hurting their (in)human rights.
when are council and cops going to get a back bone.
not long ago witnessed 3 young traveller girls abusing 2 younger lasses on bus stop in darlington. after threatening to smash the younger kid's faces in they said go to police and then we will get to find out who you are as police are frightened of us. unbelieveable that 16 / late teen traveller lasses have this attitude. however when anyone threatens them its racism and hurting their (in)human rights. when are council and cops going to get a back bone. punkrocker
  • Score: 27

7:52pm Sat 18 Jan 14

Border Terrier says...

punkrocker wrote:
not long ago witnessed 3 young traveller girls abusing 2 younger lasses on bus stop in darlington. after threatening to smash the younger kid's faces in they said go to police and then we will get to find out who you are as police are frightened of us. unbelieveable that 16 / late teen traveller lasses have this attitude. however when anyone threatens them its racism and hurting their (in)human rights.
when are council and cops going to get a back bone.
Christ! These swines are like the bliddy mafia.
[quote][p][bold]punkrocker[/bold] wrote: not long ago witnessed 3 young traveller girls abusing 2 younger lasses on bus stop in darlington. after threatening to smash the younger kid's faces in they said go to police and then we will get to find out who you are as police are frightened of us. unbelieveable that 16 / late teen traveller lasses have this attitude. however when anyone threatens them its racism and hurting their (in)human rights. when are council and cops going to get a back bone.[/p][/quote]Christ! These swines are like the bliddy mafia. Border Terrier
  • Score: 14

8:12pm Sat 18 Jan 14

victorjames says...

A truly depressing series of racist and intolerant comments and a sad reflection of the type of community spirit in Darlington. A small mean minded and spirited town. You should be ashamed ( and Cushybuttercups asking people not to rant - satire isn't dead)
A truly depressing series of racist and intolerant comments and a sad reflection of the type of community spirit in Darlington. A small mean minded and spirited town. You should be ashamed ( and Cushybuttercups asking people not to rant - satire isn't dead) victorjames
  • Score: -35

9:21pm Sat 18 Jan 14

JJ2000 says...

@Victorjames.

Objecting to ill behaviour is not racism which, if you had read through the comments, you would see as the primary complaint.

There have been no problems with or from the Muslim community despite people like you screaming about Islamaphobia.
There have been no problems from the Hindu community.
Or from east Europeans.
Or from black communities.

The problem isn't racism.
But it is intolerance from the unacceptable behaviour and views towards 'settled' people.

And again, it is the Gypsies who use the term 'Settled community', to differentiate and distance themselves from Darlington residents.
Which is quite discriminatory, don't you think?
@Victorjames. Objecting to ill behaviour is not racism which, if you had read through the comments, you would see as the primary complaint. There have been no problems with or from the Muslim community despite people like you screaming about Islamaphobia. There have been no problems from the Hindu community. Or from east Europeans. Or from black communities. The problem isn't racism. But it is intolerance from the unacceptable behaviour and views towards 'settled' people. And again, it is the Gypsies who use the term 'Settled community', to differentiate and distance themselves from Darlington residents. Which is quite discriminatory, don't you think? JJ2000
  • Score: 27

11:38pm Sat 18 Jan 14

calumannabel says...

Lots of these people keep horses which is a public service as it keeps them out of our burgers. Also where would we buy clothes pegs or kettle patches if these people moved on? Who would tell our fortunes or sell us lucky white heather on High Row. Also Hobby Caravans and the Ford Motor Co would go skint if the upvc mob didn't exist.
Which minority group shall we trash next - how about nail bar workers they seem to qualify or maybe big issue sellers?
Lots of these people keep horses which is a public service as it keeps them out of our burgers. Also where would we buy clothes pegs or kettle patches if these people moved on? Who would tell our fortunes or sell us lucky white heather on High Row. Also Hobby Caravans and the Ford Motor Co would go skint if the upvc mob didn't exist. Which minority group shall we trash next - how about nail bar workers they seem to qualify or maybe big issue sellers? calumannabel
  • Score: -12

12:00am Sun 19 Jan 14

hottopic says...

Can they spell "Respect"? That might be a start!
Can they spell "Respect"? That might be a start! hottopic
  • Score: 10

7:48pm Sun 19 Jan 14

maur1 says...

coming back from Stockton few weeks ago back roads we encountered at least 10 maybe more gypsy horses running towards us , hubby was quick reversing into I side road ,,,,,,,,,,I would of panicked gypsies were try to catch them but its likely they caused an accident.
coming back from Stockton few weeks ago back roads we encountered at least 10 maybe more gypsy horses running towards us , hubby was quick reversing into I side road ,,,,,,,,,,I would of panicked gypsies were try to catch them but its likely they caused an accident. maur1
  • Score: 6

10:02pm Sun 19 Jan 14

settheworldonfire says...

scum
scum settheworldonfire
  • Score: 11

7:26am Mon 20 Jan 14

Adam Walker says...

By voting for any political party other than the BNP everyone is voting for more of this nonsense. Do you honestly think the Tories will do anything about this? They are Labour and Labour are them. The Lib Dems are no better. You can not put a fag paper between any of the 3 wise monkey party policies. Its about time people woke up and saw these traitors for what they really are. And if you are thinking of voting UKIP because they will make it all better you seriously need to take a close look at their immigration policy. Keep voting for the same old rubbish and you will get the same old rubbish. Has it not occurred to anyone that things have got worse over the years and not better? It doesn’t have to be like this. For Gods sake wake up people. You are being eradicated from your homeland under the guise of democracy.
By voting for any political party other than the BNP everyone is voting for more of this nonsense. Do you honestly think the Tories will do anything about this? They are Labour and Labour are them. The Lib Dems are no better. You can not put a fag paper between any of the 3 wise monkey party policies. Its about time people woke up and saw these traitors for what they really are. And if you are thinking of voting UKIP because they will make it all better you seriously need to take a close look at their immigration policy. Keep voting for the same old rubbish and you will get the same old rubbish. Has it not occurred to anyone that things have got worse over the years and not better? It doesn’t have to be like this. For Gods sake wake up people. You are being eradicated from your homeland under the guise of democracy. Adam Walker
  • Score: -6

9:10am Mon 20 Jan 14

giggitty says...

settheworldonfire wrote:
scum
Retard!
[quote][p][bold]settheworldonfire[/bold] wrote: scum[/p][/quote]Retard! giggitty
  • Score: -11

5:32pm Mon 20 Jan 14

cushybutterfield says...

The trouble is when there are 'certain 'Tinkers and Scappies' about you have more than often the invariable trail of.... sheer ****Crime. Any 'copper or lead' (from Roofs or otherwise) is 'ripped off' and away for walkies (by Van or lorry), to the nearest 'bent Scrapyard'. Therefore keep them eyes pealed particularly 'Look-Up and check Roofs'...i.e........
Town and Country Churches. and..... 'White and all colours Van Man'.....You know it makes sense.
The trouble is when there are 'certain 'Tinkers and Scappies' about you have more than often the invariable trail of.... sheer ****Crime. Any 'copper or lead' (from Roofs or otherwise) is 'ripped off' and away for walkies (by Van or lorry), to the nearest 'bent Scrapyard'. Therefore keep them eyes pealed particularly 'Look-Up and check Roofs'...i.e........ Town and Country Churches. and..... 'White and all colours Van Man'.....You know it makes sense. cushybutterfield
  • Score: -2

5:40pm Mon 20 Jan 14

cushybutterfield says...

Years ago a friend of mine had their purse pinched (stolen) from a begging 'roving Gypsy ' in Spain'.
Years ago a friend of mine had their purse pinched (stolen) from a begging 'roving Gypsy ' in Spain'. cushybutterfield
  • Score: 1

11:43am Tue 21 Jan 14

cushybutterfield says...

Can anyone answer the perfectly genuine question(s) which are of particular interest to the decent, honest hardworking, lawabidding British working class (going to work Taxpayer), ........... Taxpayer,. ? How do ? Gypsies claim various ..............' A to Z, 'British Free State Benefits' if many are considered by the authorities to be of ..*No Fixed Abode'*** ...............and many Gypsies of course often are by choice, on the move from different County to County. Further more can anyone estimate the total cost of the 'Free British Gypsy Benefit Bill ?.
Can anyone answer the perfectly genuine question(s) which are of particular interest to the decent, honest hardworking, lawabidding British working class (going to work Taxpayer), ........... Taxpayer,. ? How do ? Gypsies claim various ..............' A to Z, 'British Free State Benefits' if many are considered by the authorities to be of ..*No Fixed Abode'*** ...............and many Gypsies of course often are by choice, on the move from different County to County. Further more can anyone estimate the total cost of the 'Free British Gypsy Benefit Bill ?. cushybutterfield
  • Score: -3

11:54am Tue 21 Jan 14

cushybutterfield says...

Do Gypsies ?.......... fill in British Assessment Yearly Tax Forms ?. If so and they are' late in submission' nowadays, en route to the respective British 'Tax Authorities' do they the Gypsies also ?......get fined £1OO or £2OO, as do many of the decent, hardworking and overworked British (****Working) Taxpayer(s).
Do Gypsies ?.......... fill in British Assessment Yearly Tax Forms ?. If so and they are' late in submission' nowadays, en route to the respective British 'Tax Authorities' do they the Gypsies also ?......get fined £1OO or £2OO, as do many of the decent, hardworking and overworked British (****Working) Taxpayer(s). cushybutterfield
  • Score: 4

12:50pm Tue 21 Jan 14

Linden5 says...

Stop sitting about all day in your PJs, get off benefits and start paying taxes like the rest of us have to to pay for you and all your kids!! What respect do you think you deserve.
Stop sitting about all day in your PJs, get off benefits and start paying taxes like the rest of us have to to pay for you and all your kids!! What respect do you think you deserve. Linden5
  • Score: 8

12:50pm Tue 21 Jan 14

elmo33 says...

BROKEN BRITISH POLITICS – MEDICAL RECORD RIP OFF
They keep referring to it as the NHS but it is not as we know it ,it has been fragmented and parts sold off it should change to what it is going to be Private National Health .
The “Better information means care” leaflet dropping through our letter boxes is to inform us that our Medical Records will be shared with third parties .If we disagree we have to write to our GP stating that we wish to opt out of the scheme ,even so it will be shared in ‘special circumstances ‘ – wheres the option .
It also states “we sometimes release confidential information to approved researchers “ another way of earning money .We will use information such as your postcode and NHS number to link your records – the NHS becoming a postcode lottery .It is also confusing and deceiving in the statement “ Information from, other places you receive care ,such as hospitals and community services ,is collected Nationally .You should also let your GP practice know if you want to prevent the information from those places being shared .
So if we opt out and are in an accident they are saying the Hospital cant access our GP Records – Blackmail or what !
On the website www.nhs.uk/caredata it states that the programme will ensure that GP practices know what to do if someone opts out .The Taxpayer has paid for the NHS now it is being given away to Private Enterprise. (As I am posting this on FB one of their logos pops up at the end of my post promoting the issue – until I delete it) Brain washing or what .
http://brokenbritish
politics.simplesite.
com
BROKEN BRITISH POLITICS – MEDICAL RECORD RIP OFF They keep referring to it as the NHS but it is not as we know it ,it has been fragmented and parts sold off it should change to what it is going to be Private National Health . The “Better information means care” leaflet dropping through our letter boxes is to inform us that our Medical Records will be shared with third parties .If we disagree we have to write to our GP stating that we wish to opt out of the scheme ,even so it will be shared in ‘special circumstances ‘ – wheres the option . It also states “we sometimes release confidential information to approved researchers “ another way of earning money .We will use information such as your postcode and NHS number to link your records – the NHS becoming a postcode lottery .It is also confusing and deceiving in the statement “ Information from, other places you receive care ,such as hospitals and community services ,is collected Nationally .You should also let your GP practice know if you want to prevent the information from those places being shared . So if we opt out and are in an accident they are saying the Hospital cant access our GP Records – Blackmail or what ! On the website www.nhs.uk/caredata it states that the programme will ensure that GP practices know what to do if someone opts out .The Taxpayer has paid for the NHS now it is being given away to Private Enterprise. (As I am posting this on FB one of their logos pops up at the end of my post promoting the issue – until I delete it) Brain washing or what . http://brokenbritish politics.simplesite. com elmo33
  • Score: -4

3:21pm Tue 21 Jan 14

always your mum says...

traciesm wrote:
justathought. wrote:
traciesm wrote:
We live in a country thats soposed to have equwell rights so it dhouldnt matter on the religion colour raice or back ground u treet people the way u want to be treated yes they is a small group of gypsies in the town that are disrespectful and nasty but thats the same as none ttravelers aswell I certainly wouldnt have a problem living next to a gypsie but they should be made to live where they dont want to Ie house they should be more places made available for the travelling comunity to stay like hunny pot lane
Judging by your spelling it doesn't take much to work out why you are so defensive about them.
Wats that ment to mean if u are trying to say im a gypsie then im not as for school I found it boring but still went everyday so wat my spellings crap who cares
no kidding ,by your appalling spelling hunny ,i dont think you ever turned up at school,especially not for english lessons
[quote][p][bold]traciesm[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]justathought.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]traciesm[/bold] wrote: We live in a country thats soposed to have equwell rights so it dhouldnt matter on the religion colour raice or back ground u treet people the way u want to be treated yes they is a small group of gypsies in the town that are disrespectful and nasty but thats the same as none ttravelers aswell I certainly wouldnt have a problem living next to a gypsie but they should be made to live where they dont want to Ie house they should be more places made available for the travelling comunity to stay like hunny pot lane[/p][/quote]Judging by your spelling it doesn't take much to work out why you are so defensive about them.[/p][/quote]Wats that ment to mean if u are trying to say im a gypsie then im not as for school I found it boring but still went everyday so wat my spellings crap who cares[/p][/quote]no kidding ,by your appalling spelling hunny ,i dont think you ever turned up at school,especially not for english lessons always your mum
  • Score: 7

4:20pm Tue 21 Jan 14

cushybutterfield says...

So it begs te question, ?...... yes we all believe in equality, so do ?................. therefore all roving 'No Fixed Abode',....... G ypsies *****all 'pay full **regular Taxes', like the decent, hardworking 'British Working.............
.. (The person who actually does a paid job of work), .......'Taxpayer. No one has answered this question yet.
So it begs te question, ?...... yes we all believe in equality, so do ?................. therefore all roving 'No Fixed Abode',....... G ypsies *****all 'pay full **regular Taxes', like the decent, hardworking 'British Working............. .. (The person who actually does a paid job of work), .......'Taxpayer. No one has answered this question yet. cushybutterfield
  • Score: -6

4:34pm Tue 21 Jan 14

Jackaranda says...

Linden5 wrote:
Stop sitting about all day in your PJs, get off benefits and start paying taxes like the rest of us have to to pay for you and all your kids!! What respect do you think you deserve.
There's no need to shrug off the jimjams, all of their handouts now go straight to the bank without passing go, with internet connection which they'll get free you can get everything delivered.
[quote][p][bold]Linden5[/bold] wrote: Stop sitting about all day in your PJs, get off benefits and start paying taxes like the rest of us have to to pay for you and all your kids!! What respect do you think you deserve.[/p][/quote]There's no need to shrug off the jimjams, all of their handouts now go straight to the bank without passing go, with internet connection which they'll get free you can get everything delivered. Jackaranda
  • Score: 5

10:43am Wed 22 Jan 14

elmo33 says...

Jackaranda wrote:
Linden5 wrote:
Stop sitting about all day in your PJs, get off benefits and start paying taxes like the rest of us have to to pay for you and all your kids!! What respect do you think you deserve.
There's no need to shrug off the jimjams, all of their handouts now go straight to the bank without passing go, with internet connection which they'll get free you can get everything delivered.
Try having a go at the system for allowing it to happen - not those that arent going to answer
[quote][p][bold]Jackaranda[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linden5[/bold] wrote: Stop sitting about all day in your PJs, get off benefits and start paying taxes like the rest of us have to to pay for you and all your kids!! What respect do you think you deserve.[/p][/quote]There's no need to shrug off the jimjams, all of their handouts now go straight to the bank without passing go, with internet connection which they'll get free you can get everything delivered.[/p][/quote]Try having a go at the system for allowing it to happen - not those that arent going to answer elmo33
  • Score: -3

2:13pm Wed 22 Jan 14

cushybutterfield says...

Is it true ?............. some politicians because of massive pressure and country wide complaints, from mainly British hardworking- Working (Thats people who actually do a *** paid job of work) Taxpayers, are thinking of renaming our ***British National Health Service the **Worldwide***** British Free National Health Service' ?. or is a a wild political rumour?.
Is it true ?............. some politicians because of massive pressure and country wide complaints, from mainly British hardworking- Working (Thats people who actually do a *** paid job of work) Taxpayers, are thinking of renaming our ***British National Health Service the **Worldwide***** British Free National Health Service' ?. or is a a wild political rumour?. cushybutterfield
  • Score: -2

6:09pm Wed 22 Jan 14

Jackaranda says...

elmo33 wrote:
Jackaranda wrote:
Linden5 wrote:
Stop sitting about all day in your PJs, get off benefits and start paying taxes like the rest of us have to to pay for you and all your kids!! What respect do you think you deserve.
There's no need to shrug off the jimjams, all of their handouts now go straight to the bank without passing go, with internet connection which they'll get free you can get everything delivered.
Try having a go at the system for allowing it to happen - not those that arent going to answer
You what?
[quote][p][bold]elmo33[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jackaranda[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linden5[/bold] wrote: Stop sitting about all day in your PJs, get off benefits and start paying taxes like the rest of us have to to pay for you and all your kids!! What respect do you think you deserve.[/p][/quote]There's no need to shrug off the jimjams, all of their handouts now go straight to the bank without passing go, with internet connection which they'll get free you can get everything delivered.[/p][/quote]Try having a go at the system for allowing it to happen - not those that arent going to answer[/p][/quote]You what? Jackaranda
  • Score: 0

4:33am Thu 23 Jan 14

snudge says...

No need for the the Gypsy,Hawker community, call them what you will,to worry they are safe from prosecution as the have the police either in their their pockets or running scared. We need a public enquirey into Darlington Police and their abject failure to do they duty
No need for the the Gypsy,Hawker community, call them what you will,to worry they are safe from prosecution as the have the police either in their their pockets or running scared. We need a public enquirey into Darlington Police and their abject failure to do they duty snudge
  • Score: 5

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