Gypsy site plans to go ahead despite last-minute objection

COUNCILLORS will press ahead with controversial plans to effectively double the size of a Gypsy site on the outskirts of Darlington, despite a last-minute attempt to derail the proposal.

Members of Darlington Borough Council’s cabinet this week agreed to use a £1.8million grant from a Government agency to provide 20 new pitches in Neasham Road.

There is already a traveller site in Neasham Road and this new development will see the construction of a separate compound immediately adjoining the existing one.

At Tuesday’s (December 3) meeting, developer Frank Maguire told members he had acquired another site, in Heron Drive, which he argued would be more suitable.

Councillor Ian Haszeldine told Mr Maguire that the site is ‘contaminated land’ and had been earmarked for a 53-home development.

Director of place Richard Alty told members that Mr Maguire’s comments should not have an impact on their deliberations over the Neasham Road development, given the identified need to provide extra gypsy and traveller pitches across the borough.

Mr Alty said Mr Maguire’s proposals would need to be discussed separately.

A report prepared for members said the development would be funded using the grant from the Homes and Communities Agency.

The council has made a commitment to provide 35 extra Gypsy and traveller pitches by 2016.

This development, which is expected to be completed by early 2015, will go a long way towards achieving that target.

The report refers to ‘cultural differences’ between the Gypsy and traveller community and residents living close to the Neasham Road site.

Gypsy and traveller accommodation has long been a hot topic for discussion in Darlington.

That discussion intensified last year, when the council announced consultation on proposals to extend existing sites, or create new ones, at a variety of locations across the borough, in response to Government targets for Gypsy sites.

None of the £1.8million grant will be used to improve the existing site, said the report, although it would benefit from shared infrastructure created to serve the new site, such as an access road and new electricity sub-station.

Councillor Chris McEwan, cabinet member for economy and regeneration, said: “This report outlines the outcome of a feasibility study in relation to Gypsy and traveller sites.

“This has been a long-standing issue, with much consultation and cabinet will recall we were successful in relation to funding in respect of Honeypot Lane and/or Neasham Road.

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10:36am Sat 28 Dec 13

thetruththewholetruthandnothingbutthetruth says...

This should come as no surprise to anyone living in this borough.here is something very dodgy going on in this council regarding gypsies and their planning applications.

When people have had their say on this thread, It should also not come as any surprise to anyone that the Northern Echo will delete all posts made and close the thread down.

Would the last decent settled person to leave this god forsaken town please turn out the lights.
This should come as no surprise to anyone living in this borough.here is something very dodgy going on in this council regarding gypsies and their planning applications. When people have had their say on this thread, It should also not come as any surprise to anyone that the Northern Echo will delete all posts made and close the thread down. Would the last decent settled person to leave this god forsaken town please turn out the lights. thetruththewholetruthandnothingbutthetruth

11:02am Sat 28 Dec 13

settheworldonfire says...

Our p.i.k.e.y. friends winning again...is Bill Dixon 1?
Our p.i.k.e.y. friends winning again...is Bill Dixon 1? settheworldonfire

11:07am Sat 28 Dec 13

doddy2010 says...

That's £90,000 per pitch - not bad going. I wonder if the council would do the same for the 1000's of working families who can't afford their own homes and have to pay high private rents.

Exclusively for use of 'Travellers' - nice if you can get it huh?

At least we only have the new Cattle Mart to worry about at this side of town - for now anyway.
That's £90,000 per pitch - not bad going. I wonder if the council would do the same for the 1000's of working families who can't afford their own homes and have to pay high private rents. Exclusively for use of 'Travellers' - nice if you can get it huh? At least we only have the new Cattle Mart to worry about at this side of town - for now anyway. doddy2010

12:49pm Sat 28 Dec 13

hogworth says...

Gypsies/travellers 1 other Darlington residents nil.
Gypsies/travellers 1 other Darlington residents nil. hogworth

12:50pm Sat 28 Dec 13

diga says...

I wonder what bills the travellers have to pay to live there, ie, rent, council tax, water rates, electricity? And what action is taken if they don't pay? Might be beneficial to live on one of these pitches...... Where do I put my name down??
I wonder what bills the travellers have to pay to live there, ie, rent, council tax, water rates, electricity? And what action is taken if they don't pay? Might be beneficial to live on one of these pitches...... Where do I put my name down?? diga

1:08pm Sat 28 Dec 13

JJ2000 says...

It just makes no sense at all.

£1.8m of taxpayers money being thrown into a development that will bring 0% return for the taxpayers.

£1.8m of taxpayers money being thrown into a group of people who pride themselves on not being a part of society.

Food banks are opening across town. Services are under threat and residents are having to foot the bill or take the forfeits.
And DBC thinks this spending of £1.8m for 0% return is acceptable?
It just makes no sense at all. £1.8m of taxpayers money being thrown into a development that will bring 0% return for the taxpayers. £1.8m of taxpayers money being thrown into a group of people who pride themselves on not being a part of society. Food banks are opening across town. Services are under threat and residents are having to foot the bill or take the forfeits. And DBC thinks this spending of £1.8m for 0% return is acceptable? JJ2000

1:48pm Sat 28 Dec 13

harry2 says...

That's a lot of money for only 20 plots ?
That's a lot of money for only 20 plots ? harry2

2:14pm Sat 28 Dec 13

oliviaden6 says...

Whilst all the comments are sound I am afraid this council and its officers DO NOT give a jot about hard working tax paying residents, is all we are is a cash cow for the present incumbants to be taken to the cleaners for their own petty projects and because they can. It is about time they were made to listen and that day will come when by the grace of god they will be kicked into touch, it is about time this bunch of individuals were investigated for gross mismanagement.
Whilst all the comments are sound I am afraid this council and its officers DO NOT give a jot about hard working tax paying residents, is all we are is a cash cow for the present incumbants to be taken to the cleaners for their own petty projects and because they can. It is about time they were made to listen and that day will come when by the grace of god they will be kicked into touch, it is about time this bunch of individuals were investigated for gross mismanagement. oliviaden6

2:29pm Sat 28 Dec 13

David Lacey says...

Ha ha!
.
Next election they will get voted IN again. Says all you need to know about the brain cells of Darlo people. Missing!!
Ha ha! . Next election they will get voted IN again. Says all you need to know about the brain cells of Darlo people. Missing!! David Lacey

2:30pm Sat 28 Dec 13

darloboss says...

ahh billyboys not so daft he keeps all the udesirables together in the swamplands of hunnypot and neasham road that way theres less chance of anyone setting up camp in blackwell
ahh billyboys not so daft he keeps all the udesirables together in the swamplands of hunnypot and neasham road that way theres less chance of anyone setting up camp in blackwell darloboss

6:56pm Sat 28 Dec 13

bones26 says...

bill dixon and his cronies first clas tosspots
bill dixon and his cronies first clas tosspots bones26

6:56pm Sat 28 Dec 13

bones26 says...

bones26 wrote:
bill dixon and his cronies first clas tosspots
class ..
[quote][p][bold]bones26[/bold] wrote: bill dixon and his cronies first clas tosspots[/p][/quote]class .. bones26

7:21pm Sat 28 Dec 13

raekim says...

Wasn't it lovely to consult residents properly. Once again DBC you fail!
Wasn't it lovely to consult residents properly. Once again DBC you fail! raekim

7:28pm Sat 28 Dec 13

sineater says...

David, Are you being honest for the first time in your life?weren't you born in Darlo,and didn't you chastise me for mocking Darlo residents?
David, Are you being honest for the first time in your life?weren't you born in Darlo,and didn't you chastise me for mocking Darlo residents? sineater

7:30pm Sat 28 Dec 13

sineater says...

Come on folks, all their cousins coming here from eastern Europe need somewhere to live.
Come on folks, all their cousins coming here from eastern Europe need somewhere to live. sineater

8:43pm Sat 28 Dec 13

LUSTARD says...

bottled gas is expensive, thats why they charge u double, sorry triple , forgot the cost of leccy
bottled gas is expensive, thats why they charge u double, sorry triple , forgot the cost of leccy LUSTARD

12:09am Sun 29 Dec 13

delboy1977 says...

Can someone tell me why we have to provide traveller sites ? cant they just buy a house like the rest of us ??? are the pitches open to anyone ?
Can someone tell me why we have to provide traveller sites ? cant they just buy a house like the rest of us ??? are the pitches open to anyone ? delboy1977

3:26am Sun 29 Dec 13

always your mum says...

giving smackheads needle clinics and heroin substitutes,giving more land to the gypos and taking our beautiful victorian town centre and making it look like a lego nightmare ,well done billy boy dixon and the crew ,well done my lad
giving smackheads needle clinics and heroin substitutes,giving more land to the gypos and taking our beautiful victorian town centre and making it look like a lego nightmare ,well done billy boy dixon and the crew ,well done my lad always your mum

7:26am Sun 29 Dec 13

Jackaranda says...

Why can't they develop the whole of the old Whessoe site near Honeypot Lane? and keep all the dross in one place instead of having these Ghettoes/Sewers dotted all over the place.
Why can't they develop the whole of the old Whessoe site near Honeypot Lane? and keep all the dross in one place instead of having these Ghettoes/Sewers dotted all over the place. Jackaranda

8:40am Sun 29 Dec 13

tabby67 says...

We have to get these old crusty so n so's out of office!
Why don't they listen to the people in this town we don't want any more gypos!
There is already enough chavs and scum bags born n bred here so stop bringing in more!
We have to get these old crusty so n so's out of office! Why don't they listen to the people in this town we don't want any more gypos! There is already enough chavs and scum bags born n bred here so stop bringing in more! tabby67

9:08am Sun 29 Dec 13

Mr A says...

460 + positive's here with only - 5 negatives.

Will anyone listen will they hell.
460 + positive's here with only - 5 negatives. Will anyone listen will they hell. Mr A

10:07am Sun 29 Dec 13

Copley23 says...

So they are paying way over the odds for the piece of land....and you poor Darlo chaps have to pay the price! £90,00 is more than it takes to build a house for crying out loud.

What management is that!

And pray, tell me where the figures came from that they need this many pitches anyway! Let them tell you how BAD the stats are on this!

Will one of you please take take this bunch of losers through the courts!
So they are paying way over the odds for the piece of land....and you poor Darlo chaps have to pay the price! £90,00 is more than it takes to build a house for crying out loud. What management is that! And pray, tell me where the figures came from that they need this many pitches anyway! Let them tell you how BAD the stats are on this! Will one of you please take take this bunch of losers through the courts! Copley23

10:07am Sun 29 Dec 13

Jackaranda says...

Mr A wrote:
460 + positive's here with only - 5 negatives.

Will anyone listen will they hell.
Correct Mr A, Loopy very nearly always collects negatives cos he's a t!t, so if you take that in mind it's actually 460 pozzes and zero negs!!
[quote][p][bold]Mr A[/bold] wrote: 460 + positive's here with only - 5 negatives. Will anyone listen will they hell.[/p][/quote]Correct Mr A, Loopy very nearly always collects negatives cos he's a t!t, so if you take that in mind it's actually 460 pozzes and zero negs!! Jackaranda

10:40am Sun 29 Dec 13

Jackaranda says...

Copley23 says...

"Will one of you please take this bunch of losers through the courts!"

Yes and when that case is finalised you can take th'echo to court for soliciting comments and when they f*cking gerrem they delete them because it's not to their taste!!
Copley23 says... "Will one of you please take this bunch of losers through the courts!" Yes and when that case is finalised you can take th'echo to court for soliciting comments and when they f*cking gerrem they delete them because it's not to their taste!! Jackaranda

11:10am Sun 29 Dec 13

English lad says...

It's all a big con, they all live in houses up yarm rd/neasham rd and have trailers on the sites aswell, no doubt the p1keys will win the tender to redevelop the site too. Well done bill Dixon!!!
It's all a big con, they all live in houses up yarm rd/neasham rd and have trailers on the sites aswell, no doubt the p1keys will win the tender to redevelop the site too. Well done bill Dixon!!! English lad

12:21pm Sun 29 Dec 13

Copley23 says...

Jackaranda wrote:
Copley23 says...

"Will one of you please take this bunch of losers through the courts!"

Yes and when that case is finalised you can take th'echo to court for soliciting comments and when they f*cking gerrem they delete them because it's not to their taste!!
Have you noticed - it's got 26 comments so far and STILL isn't appearing on the 'most commented' list!
[quote][p][bold]Jackaranda[/bold] wrote: Copley23 says... "Will one of you please take this bunch of losers through the courts!" Yes and when that case is finalised you can take th'echo to court for soliciting comments and when they f*cking gerrem they delete them because it's not to their taste!![/p][/quote]Have you noticed - it's got 26 comments so far and STILL isn't appearing on the 'most commented' list! Copley23

12:22pm Sun 29 Dec 13

stupid73 says...

It's interesting to hear that this site size is being increased, but what is more worrying is the MASSIVE gypsy development on the other side of Neasham Rd by the East Coast train line. There must be 3 fields taken up with new build pitches and washing facilities. I see it get bigger and bigger each time I travel south by train. Was there even planning consent for this as I haven't heard anything about it??
It's interesting to hear that this site size is being increased, but what is more worrying is the MASSIVE gypsy development on the other side of Neasham Rd by the East Coast train line. There must be 3 fields taken up with new build pitches and washing facilities. I see it get bigger and bigger each time I travel south by train. Was there even planning consent for this as I haven't heard anything about it?? stupid73

2:06pm Sun 29 Dec 13

hogworth says...

More pitches means more "travellers" and then more pitches and even more "travellers" and so it will go on. Tell the government to forece other councils to take up their full quota first.
More pitches means more "travellers" and then more pitches and even more "travellers" and so it will go on. Tell the government to forece other councils to take up their full quota first. hogworth

3:05pm Sun 29 Dec 13

thetruththewholetruthandnothingbutthetruth says...

Copley23 wrote:
Jackaranda wrote:
Copley23 says...

"Will one of you please take this bunch of losers through the courts!"

Yes and when that case is finalised you can take th'echo to court for soliciting comments and when they f*cking gerrem they delete them because it's not to their taste!!
Have you noticed - it's got 26 comments so far and STILL isn't appearing on the 'most commented' list!
Interestingly though, the story of a family of 5 who had a car accident has just made it too the most read section - with 13 comments.

Proof that the Norther Echo are deliberately censoring stories? Massaging the truth and playing propaganda with the views of those who comment on the stories posted on this site. It's a joke and an insult.

What exactly is the point of having a forum where people can make comments on stories If those comments are censored and deleted.

Welcome to Stalinist England folks.
[quote][p][bold]Copley23[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jackaranda[/bold] wrote: Copley23 says... "Will one of you please take this bunch of losers through the courts!" Yes and when that case is finalised you can take th'echo to court for soliciting comments and when they f*cking gerrem they delete them because it's not to their taste!![/p][/quote]Have you noticed - it's got 26 comments so far and STILL isn't appearing on the 'most commented' list![/p][/quote]Interestingly though, the story of a family of 5 who had a car accident has just made it too the most read section - with 13 comments. Proof that the Norther Echo are deliberately censoring stories? Massaging the truth and playing propaganda with the views of those who comment on the stories posted on this site. It's a joke and an insult. What exactly is the point of having a forum where people can make comments on stories If those comments are censored and deleted. Welcome to Stalinist England folks. thetruththewholetruthandnothingbutthetruth

3:10pm Sun 29 Dec 13

Jackaranda says...

stupid73 wrote:
It's interesting to hear that this site size is being increased, but what is more worrying is the MASSIVE gypsy development on the other side of Neasham Rd by the East Coast train line. There must be 3 fields taken up with new build pitches and washing facilities. I see it get bigger and bigger each time I travel south by train. Was there even planning consent for this as I haven't heard anything about it??
It should be 2 pitches, see below!!

COMMITTEE DATE: 28th August 2013
APPLICATION REF. NO: 13/00441/FUL
STATUTORY DECISION DATE: 28/07/13
WARD/PARISH: Hurworth
LOCATION: Snipe Lane, Darlington
DESCRIPTION: Change of use of land and laying of hardcore for
use as residential land for two Gypsy pitches.
APPLICANT: Mr Mark Birtle

APPLICATION AND SITE DESCRIPTION
The application site is currently a horse paddock located at the bottom end of Snipe Lane close to an existing stable block, livery stables and private kennels.
This application forms an extension to an adjacent site currently under construction which is partly owned by the current applicant and is to consist of a mobile home, a touring caravan and a utility building on each plot.
Access to the site would be via an internal track leading from the adjacent four plot Gypsy pitch (approved on appeal) which in turn comes in from Snipe Lane, which is a narrow partially tarmaced road leading to the A66 approximately half a kilometre to the north.
The site is screened from Snipe Lane by hedgerows but can be seen from the more distant East Coast Main Railway Line to the west.
[quote][p][bold]stupid73[/bold] wrote: It's interesting to hear that this site size is being increased, but what is more worrying is the MASSIVE gypsy development on the other side of Neasham Rd by the East Coast train line. There must be 3 fields taken up with new build pitches and washing facilities. I see it get bigger and bigger each time I travel south by train. Was there even planning consent for this as I haven't heard anything about it??[/p][/quote]It should be 2 pitches, see below!! COMMITTEE DATE: 28th August 2013 APPLICATION REF. NO: 13/00441/FUL STATUTORY DECISION DATE: 28/07/13 WARD/PARISH: Hurworth LOCATION: Snipe Lane, Darlington DESCRIPTION: Change of use of land and laying of hardcore for use as residential land for two Gypsy pitches. APPLICANT: Mr Mark Birtle APPLICATION AND SITE DESCRIPTION The application site is currently a horse paddock located at the bottom end of Snipe Lane close to an existing stable block, livery stables and private kennels. This application forms an extension to an adjacent site currently under construction which is partly owned by the current applicant and is to consist of a mobile home, a touring caravan and a utility building on each plot. Access to the site would be via an internal track leading from the adjacent four plot Gypsy pitch (approved on appeal) which in turn comes in from Snipe Lane, which is a narrow partially tarmaced road leading to the A66 approximately half a kilometre to the north. The site is screened from Snipe Lane by hedgerows but can be seen from the more distant East Coast Main Railway Line to the west. Jackaranda

4:44pm Sun 29 Dec 13

English lad says...

What do the people of darlington expect when they keep voting in left wing idiots on the Take who give jobs and favours to their mates!
What do the people of darlington expect when they keep voting in left wing idiots on the Take who give jobs and favours to their mates! English lad

5:03pm Sun 29 Dec 13

calumannabel says...

Copley23 wrote:
Jackaranda wrote:
Copley23 says...

"Will one of you please take this bunch of losers through the courts!"

Yes and when that case is finalised you can take th'echo to court for soliciting comments and when they f*cking gerrem they delete them because it's not to their taste!!
Have you noticed - it's got 26 comments so far and STILL isn't appearing on the 'most commented' list!
I put a comment about the new police HQ in N Yorkshire this afternoon and that thread's gone. I was suggesting a decent investigative paper would put a Freedom of Information request re the greenfield site N Yorkshire police are seeking to develop. Instead we'll have to wait for Private Eye to feature it in their 'Rotten Boroughs' section.
[quote][p][bold]Copley23[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jackaranda[/bold] wrote: Copley23 says... "Will one of you please take this bunch of losers through the courts!" Yes and when that case is finalised you can take th'echo to court for soliciting comments and when they f*cking gerrem they delete them because it's not to their taste!![/p][/quote]Have you noticed - it's got 26 comments so far and STILL isn't appearing on the 'most commented' list![/p][/quote]I put a comment about the new police HQ in N Yorkshire this afternoon and that thread's gone. I was suggesting a decent investigative paper would put a Freedom of Information request re the greenfield site N Yorkshire police are seeking to develop. Instead we'll have to wait for Private Eye to feature it in their 'Rotten Boroughs' section. calumannabel

9:03pm Sun 29 Dec 13

thetruththewholetruthandnothingbutthetruth says...

Still not on the most commented list then eh. Very strange indeed!
Still not on the most commented list then eh. Very strange indeed! thetruththewholetruthandnothingbutthetruth

10:33pm Sun 29 Dec 13

Topcat28 says...

34 comments yet doesn't show on the "most commented" section. Any particular reason for this?
34 comments yet doesn't show on the "most commented" section. Any particular reason for this? Topcat28

3:40am Mon 30 Dec 13

stupid73 says...

Jackaranda wrote:
stupid73 wrote:
It's interesting to hear that this site size is being increased, but what is more worrying is the MASSIVE gypsy development on the other side of Neasham Rd by the East Coast train line. There must be 3 fields taken up with new build pitches and washing facilities. I see it get bigger and bigger each time I travel south by train. Was there even planning consent for this as I haven't heard anything about it??
It should be 2 pitches, see below!!

COMMITTEE DATE: 28th August 2013
APPLICATION REF. NO: 13/00441/FUL
STATUTORY DECISION DATE: 28/07/13
WARD/PARISH: Hurworth
LOCATION: Snipe Lane, Darlington
DESCRIPTION: Change of use of land and laying of hardcore for
use as residential land for two Gypsy pitches.
APPLICANT: Mr Mark Birtle

APPLICATION AND SITE DESCRIPTION
The application site is currently a horse paddock located at the bottom end of Snipe Lane close to an existing stable block, livery stables and private kennels.
This application forms an extension to an adjacent site currently under construction which is partly owned by the current applicant and is to consist of a mobile home, a touring caravan and a utility building on each plot.
Access to the site would be via an internal track leading from the adjacent four plot Gypsy pitch (approved on appeal) which in turn comes in from Snipe Lane, which is a narrow partially tarmaced road leading to the A66 approximately half a kilometre to the north.
The site is screened from Snipe Lane by hedgerows but can be seen from the more distant East Coast Main Railway Line to the west.
2? Wow, there would be more like 22 and each time I go past it has grown further
[quote][p][bold]Jackaranda[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stupid73[/bold] wrote: It's interesting to hear that this site size is being increased, but what is more worrying is the MASSIVE gypsy development on the other side of Neasham Rd by the East Coast train line. There must be 3 fields taken up with new build pitches and washing facilities. I see it get bigger and bigger each time I travel south by train. Was there even planning consent for this as I haven't heard anything about it??[/p][/quote]It should be 2 pitches, see below!! COMMITTEE DATE: 28th August 2013 APPLICATION REF. NO: 13/00441/FUL STATUTORY DECISION DATE: 28/07/13 WARD/PARISH: Hurworth LOCATION: Snipe Lane, Darlington DESCRIPTION: Change of use of land and laying of hardcore for use as residential land for two Gypsy pitches. APPLICANT: Mr Mark Birtle APPLICATION AND SITE DESCRIPTION The application site is currently a horse paddock located at the bottom end of Snipe Lane close to an existing stable block, livery stables and private kennels. This application forms an extension to an adjacent site currently under construction which is partly owned by the current applicant and is to consist of a mobile home, a touring caravan and a utility building on each plot. Access to the site would be via an internal track leading from the adjacent four plot Gypsy pitch (approved on appeal) which in turn comes in from Snipe Lane, which is a narrow partially tarmaced road leading to the A66 approximately half a kilometre to the north. The site is screened from Snipe Lane by hedgerows but can be seen from the more distant East Coast Main Railway Line to the west.[/p][/quote]2? Wow, there would be more like 22 and each time I go past it has grown further stupid73

4:28pm Mon 30 Dec 13

craiggraham says...

Ian Haszeldine & Bill Dixon are the biggest con-men in the town. They both have gypsy mates who they go drinking with.
This town is over run with the dirty thieving scum do we really need more????
They steal,drive with no insurance or driving licences , pay no tax or earn honest money and a lot of them sell drugs big time ( do you think they drive about in 50k motors by selling carpets or horse shitte) . Darlo as become the scum capital of the north east.. Cccc
Ian Haszeldine & Bill Dixon are the biggest con-men in the town. They both have gypsy mates who they go drinking with. This town is over run with the dirty thieving scum do we really need more???? They steal,drive with no insurance or driving licences , pay no tax or earn honest money and a lot of them sell drugs big time ( do you think they drive about in 50k motors by selling carpets or horse shitte) . Darlo as become the scum capital of the north east.. Cccc craiggraham

4:31pm Mon 30 Dec 13

craiggraham says...

Wish I worked for the council.... Have you seen how much they con the taxpayers out of.
Wish I worked for the council.... Have you seen how much they con the taxpayers out of. craiggraham

4:43pm Mon 30 Dec 13

fakeycakemaker says...

Anybody know where I can buy a Mattress?
Anybody know where I can buy a Mattress? fakeycakemaker

4:47pm Mon 30 Dec 13

craiggraham says...

fakeycakemaker wrote:
Anybody know where I can buy a Mattress?
Look on Yarm Road it's full of pikeys selling them...... They all have top of the range vehicles so they must sell a lot of them.
[quote][p][bold]fakeycakemaker[/bold] wrote: Anybody know where I can buy a Mattress?[/p][/quote]Look on Yarm Road it's full of pikeys selling them...... They all have top of the range vehicles so they must sell a lot of them. craiggraham

9:29pm Mon 30 Dec 13

The Love Slug says...

as for the snipe lane development, the boarding kennels was forced to close and the owners are looking to move as they feared that noone would want to leave their dogs down in the middle of a gypo site. At first i thought that was a little presumptious when they first told me, but after dropping my dog off in there for the final time the paddock next to the entrance was full of old building materials, smashed up bathroom suites and old mattresses. this was moved on there in the space of ONE WEEK. Despite the familys objections due to the impacet it would have on their lives, business and of course livelihood, the council steamrollered it through and screwed the family. billyboy and his cronies should be flogged in the council ruined market square.
as for the snipe lane development, the boarding kennels was forced to close and the owners are looking to move as they feared that noone would want to leave their dogs down in the middle of a gypo site. At first i thought that was a little presumptious when they first told me, but after dropping my dog off in there for the final time the paddock next to the entrance was full of old building materials, smashed up bathroom suites and old mattresses. this was moved on there in the space of ONE WEEK. Despite the familys objections due to the impacet it would have on their lives, business and of course livelihood, the council steamrollered it through and screwed the family. billyboy and his cronies should be flogged in the council ruined market square. The Love Slug

9:37am Tue 31 Dec 13

craiggraham says...

This town is overrun by the trilby wearing ,horse smelling ****
This town is overrun by the trilby wearing ,horse smelling **** craiggraham

11:30am Tue 31 Dec 13

theartistformallyknownasoutragedofmiltonkeynes says...

And this thread is still not highlighted in the most commented section?
Obviously an oversight on the part of the Echo...
Id better not say too much i got banned for speaking my mind about the rampaging hordes of diddycoys last time a story like this came up
And this thread is still not highlighted in the most commented section? Obviously an oversight on the part of the Echo... Id better not say too much i got banned for speaking my mind about the rampaging hordes of diddycoys last time a story like this came up theartistformallyknownasoutragedofmiltonkeynes

11:56am Tue 31 Dec 13

Alpha 1 Legal says...

Another caae of pandering? I'm sure this money could have been better spent elsewhere?
Another caae of pandering? I'm sure this money could have been better spent elsewhere? Alpha 1 Legal

12:22pm Tue 31 Dec 13

craiggraham says...

Send the Sniffer dogs on these camps and they will come back sky high...........
Send the Sniffer dogs on these camps and they will come back sky high........... craiggraham

5:24pm Tue 31 Dec 13

thetruththewholetruthandnothingbutthetruth says...

This story is about to disappear having not made the most commented list.

Dear Northern Echo, you are a disgrace to journalism.

The people have spoken and you have deliberately and willfully ignored them. There are literally hundreds and hundreds of thumbs-up on the above comments, meaning the vast majority of people agree with the sentiments being made, even if they have chosen not to comment themselves.

Hang your sorry journalistic heads in shame. You are not worthy of your readership.
This story is about to disappear having not made the most commented list. Dear Northern Echo, you are a disgrace to journalism. The people have spoken and you have deliberately and willfully ignored them. There are literally hundreds and hundreds of thumbs-up on the above comments, meaning the vast majority of people agree with the sentiments being made, even if they have chosen not to comment themselves. Hang your sorry journalistic heads in shame. You are not worthy of your readership. thetruththewholetruthandnothingbutthetruth

6:33pm Tue 31 Dec 13

behonest says...

Before this story is pulled (why hasn't it made 'most commented' - is the Echo 'encouraged' not to highlight negative comments on this issue?), I would like to ask Andy Walker to give readers facts, rather than spin.

Why is Darlington Labour council so keen to provide more pitches for gypsies?
Will the capital cost and any on-going revenue costs of this development be met from this 'grant' or will local taxpayers have to pick up the tab for any of it?
Why has the council made a commitment to provide another 35 pitches for gypsies by 2016?
If 'cultural differences' have been acknowledged, why is the Labour council so keen to expand the gypsy community even more?
Who determined this 'identified need' for more gypsy sites across the borough? Is it really a 'need' or just giving in to what gypsies want?
Are government 'targets' exactly that - targets? Is there any statutory obligation on the council to significantly expand the gypsy population in Darlington, or is this just a choice made by our Labour council, without regard to what local people think or want?

Come on, Andy. Give us the real facts. No wonder many local people think the Echo is in the pocket of Dixon and his cronies.
Before this story is pulled (why hasn't it made 'most commented' - is the Echo 'encouraged' not to highlight negative comments on this issue?), I would like to ask Andy Walker to give readers facts, rather than spin. Why is Darlington Labour council so keen to provide more pitches for gypsies? Will the capital cost and any on-going revenue costs of this development be met from this 'grant' or will local taxpayers have to pick up the tab for any of it? Why has the council made a commitment to provide another 35 pitches for gypsies by 2016? If 'cultural differences' have been acknowledged, why is the Labour council so keen to expand the gypsy community even more? Who determined this 'identified need' for more gypsy sites across the borough? Is it really a 'need' or just giving in to what gypsies want? Are government 'targets' exactly that - targets? Is there any statutory obligation on the council to significantly expand the gypsy population in Darlington, or is this just a choice made by our Labour council, without regard to what local people think or want? Come on, Andy. Give us the real facts. No wonder many local people think the Echo is in the pocket of Dixon and his cronies. behonest

7:01pm Tue 31 Dec 13

Crocket68 says...

Backhanders, MBE for the editor? What a joke! Police are frightened to do anything about the travelers, bunch of sponging, thieving scum who do what to benefit our society? Most don't pay into the system but demand to be seen by our NHS etc.

If people want them integrated into our society tell them to pay their way first!
Backhanders, MBE for the editor? What a joke! Police are frightened to do anything about the travelers, bunch of sponging, thieving scum who do what to benefit our society? Most don't pay into the system but demand to be seen by our NHS etc. If people want them integrated into our society tell them to pay their way first! Crocket68

11:02pm Tue 31 Dec 13

Spy Boy says...

Mr A wrote:
460 + positive's here with only - 5 negatives.

Will anyone listen will they hell.
They only when it gets into the thousands and could mean losing enough votes to lose a local election. It won't happen.

There are dual standards operating in Darlington, just like everywhere else in the country.

£1.8 million for 20 plots ? Expensive, but there are sweeteners involved, surely ?
[quote][p][bold]Mr A[/bold] wrote: 460 + positive's here with only - 5 negatives. Will anyone listen will they hell.[/p][/quote]They only when it gets into the thousands and could mean losing enough votes to lose a local election. It won't happen. There are dual standards operating in Darlington, just like everywhere else in the country. £1.8 million for 20 plots ? Expensive, but there are sweeteners involved, surely ? Spy Boy

11:11pm Tue 31 Dec 13

darloboss says...

colcat never comments on travellers she's a travellers matress
colcat never comments on travellers she's a travellers matress darloboss

11:50am Wed 1 Jan 14

Quaker Boy says...

Hypos/ travellers, whatever you want to call them are just scum, plain and simple. They contribute nothing to the economy of the town but take take take from the system. The Council and Police are running scared of them so I'm afraid they will always get away with all the trouble they cause in the town. If only a purge could be carried out on them to rid the town of this scum.
Hypos/ travellers, whatever you want to call them are just scum, plain and simple. They contribute nothing to the economy of the town but take take take from the system. The Council and Police are running scared of them so I'm afraid they will always get away with all the trouble they cause in the town. If only a purge could be carried out on them to rid the town of this scum. Quaker Boy

11:51am Wed 1 Jan 14

Quaker Boy says...

That's Gypos lol
That's Gypos lol Quaker Boy

3:35pm Wed 1 Jan 14

pager11 says...

The only reason DBC give them want they want is for the gypos to vote Bill and his crew in, simple as.
The only reason DBC give them want they want is for the gypos to vote Bill and his crew in, simple as. pager11

12:50pm Fri 3 Jan 14

ianh says...

I am certainly no apologist for DBC, but a couple of facts need clarifying;

As i understand it, none of this money is coming from DBC, it is all via central government. Rightly or wrongly, is also not down to DBC that these extra sites are to be allocated, but instead the government.

Personally i would be in favour of this development if it halted the sporadic spread of random sites within the Borough. Certainly the expansion in the Snipe Lane area is far beyond that originally proposed and poses a real risk given the dangerous junction onto the A66. i understand recent appeals were won despite objections from Highways on the grounds of Highway safety.

It is certainly most curious that this article has not made it into the Most Commented section........
I am certainly no apologist for DBC, but a couple of facts need clarifying; As i understand it, none of this money is coming from DBC, it is all via central government. Rightly or wrongly, is also not down to DBC that these extra sites are to be allocated, but instead the government. Personally i would be in favour of this development if it halted the sporadic spread of random sites within the Borough. Certainly the expansion in the Snipe Lane area is far beyond that originally proposed and poses a real risk given the dangerous junction onto the A66. i understand recent appeals were won despite objections from Highways on the grounds of Highway safety. It is certainly most curious that this article has not made it into the Most Commented section........ ianh

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