Economy shrinks by 0.3%

CHANCELLOR: George Osborne

CHANCELLOR: George Osborne

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BRITAIN'S recovery slammed into reverse at the end of last year after the economy contracted by a worse-than-expected 0.3 per cent, official figures revealed today.

The fall in gross domestic product (GDP) between October and December compares with 0.9 per cent growth in the third quarter and will raise fears that the UK is on course for an unprecedented triple-dip recession.

GDP - a broad measure for the total economy - would have to contract again this quarter for the UK to be back in recession, but hopes of a rebound are starting to fade after a snow-hit start to 2013.

The Office for National Statistics (ONS) said economic output as a whole remained flat in 2012.

The fourth-quarter drop is worse than expected, with most economists forecasting a drop of 0.1 per cent.

It deals a blow to recovery hopes after the UK bounced back from the longest double-dip recession since the 1950s in the third quarter.

But the rebound was largely driven by one-off factors, such as the Olympics, and as the economy clawed back activity lost during the Queens Diamond Jubilee holiday, which has skewed quarter-on-quarter changes in activity, the ONS said.

The fourth-quarter figures are preliminary estimates and subject to revision. The latest ONS estimate increases the pressure on Chancellor George Osborne at a time when all three major ratings agencies have the country's prized AAA status on negative outlook.

A Treasury spokesman said: "The official forecast was that the UK economy would contract in the last quarter of 2012 so this figure is not unexpected. It confirms what we already knew - that Britain, like many European countries, still faces a very difficult economic situation."

Mr Osborne said he would not "run away" from the problems facing the UK economy: "We have a reminder today that Britain faces a very difficult economic situation. A reminder that last year was particularly difficult, that we face problems at home because of the debts built up over many years and problems abroad with the eurozone, where we export most of our products, in recession.

"Now, we can either run away from those problems or we can confront them and I am determined to confront them so that we can go on creating jobs for the people of this country."

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10:40am Fri 25 Jan 13

happyguy says...

But its not the fault of the tory led coalition with its misery causing policies or the nasty money grabbing bankers who caused the financial crisis its the last nasty labour government to blame lol
But its not the fault of the tory led coalition with its misery causing policies or the nasty money grabbing bankers who caused the financial crisis its the last nasty labour government to blame lol happyguy
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11:00am Fri 25 Jan 13

mark.wilkinson says...

get ready for a triple dip.

This country is in big trouble.
get ready for a triple dip. This country is in big trouble. mark.wilkinson
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11:00am Fri 25 Jan 13

Daza says...

Well, well, many critics of this Govt. foretold that if they cut too quickly and too deeply this scenario would play out.

Your photo of George Osbourne reminds me of a rabbit caught in a cars headlights. Just does not know what to do!

Govt. apologists point out that the deficit has been cut by a quarter and that we have record low interest rates! Great, but the majority of people in this country are at the limit now. Any rise in interest rates would totally finish them off. This country is on a knife edge now.

Even man of many faces Clegg is saying they cut too far too soon.

Who can we really trust to run this Govt. now?
Well, well, many critics of this Govt. foretold that if they cut too quickly and too deeply this scenario would play out. Your photo of George Osbourne reminds me of a rabbit caught in a cars headlights. Just does not know what to do! Govt. apologists point out that the deficit has been cut by a quarter and that we have record low interest rates! Great, but the majority of people in this country are at the limit now. Any rise in interest rates would totally finish them off. This country is on a knife edge now. Even man of many faces Clegg is saying they cut too far too soon. Who can we really trust to run this Govt. now? Daza
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11:01am Fri 25 Jan 13

Daza says...

Should have said 'Country' in the last line.
Should have said 'Country' in the last line. Daza
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11:12am Fri 25 Jan 13

simmo707 says...

BROKEN BRITAINUNDER TORIES – OLD AGE PENSION V IMMIGRANTS/REFUGEES
Absolutely nothing against immigrants or refugees but surely this cannot be right.
Are you aware of the following ? The British Government provides the following financial assistance :-
BRITISH OLD AGED PENSIONER (bearing in mind they worked hard and paid
their Income Tax and National Insurance contributions to the British
government all their working life) Weekly allowance: £106.00
IMMIGRANTS/REFUGEES LIVING IN BRITAIN (No Income Tax and National
Insurance contribution whatsoever) Weekly allowance: £250.00 BRITISH OLD AGED PENSIONER Weekly Spouse allowance: £25.00
IMMIGRANTS/REFUGEES LIVING IN BRITAIN Weekly Spouse
allowance: £225.00 BRITISH OLD AGED PENSIONER Additional weekly hardship
allowance £0.00
IMMIGRANTS/REFUGEES LIVING IN BRITAIN Additional weekly
hardship allowance £100.00 A British old age pensioner is no less hard up than an
immigrant/refugee yet receives nothing .
BRITISH OLD AGED PENSIONER TOTAL YEARLY BENEFIT £6,000
IMMIGRANTS/REFUGEES LIVING IN BRITAIN TOTAL YEARLY BENEFIT:£29,900 .Wondered where the capping figure for benefit of £26,000 came from that will be introduced – we have been sold down the river again .www.brokenbritainun
dertories.com
BROKEN BRITAINUNDER TORIES – OLD AGE PENSION V IMMIGRANTS/REFUGEES Absolutely nothing against immigrants or refugees but surely this cannot be right. Are you aware of the following ? The British Government provides the following financial assistance :- BRITISH OLD AGED PENSIONER (bearing in mind they worked hard and paid their Income Tax and National Insurance contributions to the British government all their working life) Weekly allowance: £106.00 IMMIGRANTS/REFUGEES LIVING IN BRITAIN (No Income Tax and National Insurance contribution whatsoever) Weekly allowance: £250.00 BRITISH OLD AGED PENSIONER Weekly Spouse allowance: £25.00 IMMIGRANTS/REFUGEES LIVING IN BRITAIN Weekly Spouse allowance: £225.00 BRITISH OLD AGED PENSIONER Additional weekly hardship allowance £0.00 IMMIGRANTS/REFUGEES LIVING IN BRITAIN Additional weekly hardship allowance £100.00 A British old age pensioner is no less hard up than an immigrant/refugee yet receives nothing . BRITISH OLD AGED PENSIONER TOTAL YEARLY BENEFIT £6,000 IMMIGRANTS/REFUGEES LIVING IN BRITAIN TOTAL YEARLY BENEFIT:£29,900 .Wondered where the capping figure for benefit of £26,000 came from that will be introduced – we have been sold down the river again .www.brokenbritainun dertories.com simmo707
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11:16am Fri 25 Jan 13

Voice-of-reality says...

A 'triple dip' is not unprecedented as various newspapers have suggested. What is misleading is the terminology being used. It is not 'the third recession' - it is, rather, the third slump within a single longer standing depression.
A 'triple dip' is not unprecedented as various newspapers have suggested. What is misleading is the terminology being used. It is not 'the third recession' - it is, rather, the third slump within a single longer standing depression. Voice-of-reality
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11:29am Fri 25 Jan 13

ajtib3 says...

Taxi for Osborne!
Taxi for Osborne! ajtib3
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12:38pm Fri 25 Jan 13

johnny_p says...

Another attention grabbing anti Tory (or rather anything that's not Labour) headline.

Funny isn't it that they failed to mention anywhere that unemployment has fallen by 37,000 but prefer to dwell on a minor blip on growth.
Another attention grabbing anti Tory (or rather anything that's not Labour) headline. Funny isn't it that they failed to mention anywhere that unemployment has fallen by 37,000 but prefer to dwell on a minor blip on growth. johnny_p
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12:44pm Fri 25 Jan 13

loonyleft says...

Jonny, The funny thing is-no tragic,is that the drop is due to people being put on meaninless training schemes,sometimes the same course over and over again,so not really a drop at all.
Jonny, The funny thing is-no tragic,is that the drop is due to people being put on meaninless training schemes,sometimes the same course over and over again,so not really a drop at all. loonyleft
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12:46pm Fri 25 Jan 13

ajtib3 says...

johnny_p wrote:
Another attention grabbing anti Tory (or rather anything that's not Labour) headline.

Funny isn't it that they failed to mention anywhere that unemployment has fallen by 37,000 but prefer to dwell on a minor blip on growth.
Minor blip? Are you for real?
[quote][p][bold]johnny_p[/bold] wrote: Another attention grabbing anti Tory (or rather anything that's not Labour) headline. Funny isn't it that they failed to mention anywhere that unemployment has fallen by 37,000 but prefer to dwell on a minor blip on growth.[/p][/quote]Minor blip? Are you for real? ajtib3
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12:52pm Fri 25 Jan 13

loonyleft says...

ajtib3,Jonny is one of those who acuses labour supporters of supporting the party no matter what they do wrong or right ,pot calling kettle ,don't you think.
ajtib3,Jonny is one of those who acuses labour supporters of supporting the party no matter what they do wrong or right ,pot calling kettle ,don't you think. loonyleft
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3:52pm Fri 25 Jan 13

CynicaloldGit says...

Well that's what you get when you employ a failed jounalist/data clerk/ towel folder in the most important office in the land............... init?
Well that's what you get when you employ a failed jounalist/data clerk/ towel folder in the most important office in the land............... init? CynicaloldGit
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4:30pm Fri 25 Jan 13

ajtib3 says...

Osborne has failed and his strategy is in tatters. Will he admit it? No way – watch out because someone has to be blamed and the likely candidates are those on welfare.

Whilst he sucked demand out of the economy by raising VAT, cutting wages and welfare and by taking the axe to capital spending programmes, his scare tactics about the UK being like a Greece in waiting had the effect of shredding both consumer and business confidence.

So, apart from the quarter containing the Olympics growth figures, 2012 has flatlined and industrial production is down (so much for re-balancing the economy). False data about the shift from public sector to private sector jobs, dubious employment data all round, people being shifted onto useless job schemes to reduce the apparent unemployment data. Lie after lie!

We have reduced deficit they brag – yes they had, but the actual total debt has continued to rise and now even the deficit has started to rise again. We’ve seen one postponement after another in every target he had set for the economy.

Politically as well as economically, these figures are a disaster for Osborne and the UK heads not only for a triple-dip recession but also to the loss of our supposedly coveted AAA rating. Losing that will be the final nail in George’s coffin – he pinned everything on it – so much so that if we lose it there’s nowhere else for him to go – get the sword out George, and fall on it!
Osborne has failed and his strategy is in tatters. Will he admit it? No way – watch out because someone has to be blamed and the likely candidates are those on welfare. Whilst he sucked demand out of the economy by raising VAT, cutting wages and welfare and by taking the axe to capital spending programmes, his scare tactics about the UK being like a Greece in waiting had the effect of shredding both consumer and business confidence. So, apart from the quarter containing the Olympics growth figures, 2012 has flatlined and industrial production is down (so much for re-balancing the economy). False data about the shift from public sector to private sector jobs, dubious employment data all round, people being shifted onto useless job schemes to reduce the apparent unemployment data. Lie after lie! We have reduced deficit they brag – yes they had, but the actual total debt has continued to rise and now even the deficit has started to rise again. We’ve seen one postponement after another in every target he had set for the economy. Politically as well as economically, these figures are a disaster for Osborne and the UK heads not only for a triple-dip recession but also to the loss of our supposedly coveted AAA rating. Losing that will be the final nail in George’s coffin – he pinned everything on it – so much so that if we lose it there’s nowhere else for him to go – get the sword out George, and fall on it! ajtib3
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6:09pm Fri 25 Jan 13

loan_star says...

loonyleft wrote:
Jonny, The funny thing is-no tragic,is that the drop is due to people being put on meaninless training schemes,sometimes the same course over and over again,so not really a drop at all.
More people in employment than has been for years, the majority full time jobs. These are jobs, not training schemes!
[quote][p][bold]loonyleft[/bold] wrote: Jonny, The funny thing is-no tragic,is that the drop is due to people being put on meaninless training schemes,sometimes the same course over and over again,so not really a drop at all.[/p][/quote]More people in employment than has been for years, the majority full time jobs. These are jobs, not training schemes! loan_star
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7:09pm Fri 25 Jan 13

loonyleft says...

want to bet,loan star,at the same time as were heading for a triple dip recesssion , a lot of peoole are getting jobs,the economy is flat lining ,and these jobs are making no impact on the economy,pull the other one,it's got bells on.
want to bet,loan star,at the same time as were heading for a triple dip recesssion , a lot of peoole are getting jobs,the economy is flat lining ,and these jobs are making no impact on the economy,pull the other one,it's got bells on. loonyleft
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10:37am Sun 27 Jan 13

loan_star says...

Its amusing how a article predicting doom and gloom has all the lefties jumping over it saying how bad things are, yet another article where north east business leaders are saying things arent that bad and all the negative talk would make things worse, gets no response from the lefties!! It obviously doesnt suit their argument!
Its amusing how a article predicting doom and gloom has all the lefties jumping over it saying how bad things are, yet another article where north east business leaders are saying things arent that bad and all the negative talk would make things worse, gets no response from the lefties!! It obviously doesnt suit their argument! loan_star
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11:18am Sun 27 Jan 13

ajtib3 says...

loan_star wrote:
Its amusing how a article predicting doom and gloom has all the lefties jumping over it saying how bad things are, yet another article where north east business leaders are saying things arent that bad and all the negative talk would make things worse, gets no response from the lefties!! It obviously doesnt suit their argument!
I'll believe it when I see some genuine statistics showing an improvement in the economy.

Sadly the one's you quoted are not only false - they couldn't possibly be genuine - if they were the economy would not be shrinking but growing.

How, for example, can manufacturing employment be up if manufacturing output is down. Where are these new full-time jobs? - what are they paying? They're supposed to be re-balancing the economy but its not happening.

No-one could defend Osborne - even he knows he has failed, the IMF know he's failed, Clegg knows he's failed, Boris Johnson know's he's failed and lets face it Cameron know's he's failed.
[quote][p][bold]loan_star[/bold] wrote: Its amusing how a article predicting doom and gloom has all the lefties jumping over it saying how bad things are, yet another article where north east business leaders are saying things arent that bad and all the negative talk would make things worse, gets no response from the lefties!! It obviously doesnt suit their argument![/p][/quote]I'll believe it when I see some genuine statistics showing an improvement in the economy. Sadly the one's you quoted are not only false - they couldn't possibly be genuine - if they were the economy would not be shrinking but growing. How, for example, can manufacturing employment be up if manufacturing output is down. Where are these new full-time jobs? - what are they paying? They're supposed to be re-balancing the economy but its not happening. No-one could defend Osborne - even he knows he has failed, the IMF know he's failed, Clegg knows he's failed, Boris Johnson know's he's failed and lets face it Cameron know's he's failed. ajtib3
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1:08pm Sun 27 Jan 13

loan_star says...

So you are saying north east business leaders are lying then? The only things you believe are things the Labour party and unions come out with.
So you are saying north east business leaders are lying then? The only things you believe are things the Labour party and unions come out with. loan_star
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3:56pm Sun 27 Jan 13

BMD says...

Why not ask Gordon Brown for advice,

Oppp's, he's the clown that sold the country and labels the electorate "Bigots" for questioning Labor’s immigration policy.
Why not ask Gordon Brown for advice, Oppp's, he's the clown that sold the country and labels the electorate "Bigots" for questioning Labor’s immigration policy. BMD
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4:52pm Sun 27 Jan 13

ajtib3 says...

loan_star wrote:
So you are saying north east business leaders are lying then? The only things you believe are things the Labour party and unions come out with.
If you read the article you will see they accept how bad things are - the problem is with downturns they can be self-perpetuating which is what they are trying to avert.

They are not lying - they are just trying to be positive in a bad situation.

Its a delicate balance and sadly that's exactly what the government themselves didn't do - by repeatedly telling us how bad things were they took confidence and demand away from the economy and helped make a bad stuation a lot worse.
[quote][p][bold]loan_star[/bold] wrote: So you are saying north east business leaders are lying then? The only things you believe are things the Labour party and unions come out with.[/p][/quote]If you read the article you will see they accept how bad things are - the problem is with downturns they can be self-perpetuating which is what they are trying to avert. They are not lying - they are just trying to be positive in a bad situation. Its a delicate balance and sadly that's exactly what the government themselves didn't do - by repeatedly telling us how bad things were they took confidence and demand away from the economy and helped make a bad stuation a lot worse. ajtib3
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11:22pm Sun 27 Jan 13

IanfromCrook says...

simmo707 wrote:
BROKEN BRITAINUNDER TORIES – OLD AGE PENSION V IMMIGRANTS/REFUGEES
Absolutely nothing against immigrants or refugees but surely this cannot be right.
Are you aware of the following ? The British Government provides the following financial assistance :-
BRITISH OLD AGED PENSIONER (bearing in mind they worked hard and paid
their Income Tax and National Insurance contributions to the British
government all their working life) Weekly allowance: £106.00
IMMIGRANTS/REFUGEES LIVING IN BRITAIN (No Income Tax and National
Insurance contribution whatsoever) Weekly allowance: £250.00 BRITISH OLD AGED PENSIONER Weekly Spouse allowance: £25.00
IMMIGRANTS/REFUGEES LIVING IN BRITAIN Weekly Spouse
allowance: £225.00 BRITISH OLD AGED PENSIONER Additional weekly hardship
allowance £0.00
IMMIGRANTS/REFUGEES LIVING IN BRITAIN Additional weekly
hardship allowance £100.00 A British old age pensioner is no less hard up than an
immigrant/refugee yet receives nothing .
BRITISH OLD AGED PENSIONER TOTAL YEARLY BENEFIT £6,000
IMMIGRANTS/REFUGEES LIVING IN BRITAIN TOTAL YEARLY BENEFIT:£29,900 .Wondered where the capping figure for benefit of £26,000 came from that will be introduced – we have been sold down the river again .www.brokenbritainun

dertories.com
THE ABOVE IS RUBBISH
[quote][p][bold]simmo707[/bold] wrote: BROKEN BRITAINUNDER TORIES – OLD AGE PENSION V IMMIGRANTS/REFUGEES Absolutely nothing against immigrants or refugees but surely this cannot be right. Are you aware of the following ? The British Government provides the following financial assistance :- BRITISH OLD AGED PENSIONER (bearing in mind they worked hard and paid their Income Tax and National Insurance contributions to the British government all their working life) Weekly allowance: £106.00 IMMIGRANTS/REFUGEES LIVING IN BRITAIN (No Income Tax and National Insurance contribution whatsoever) Weekly allowance: £250.00 BRITISH OLD AGED PENSIONER Weekly Spouse allowance: £25.00 IMMIGRANTS/REFUGEES LIVING IN BRITAIN Weekly Spouse allowance: £225.00 BRITISH OLD AGED PENSIONER Additional weekly hardship allowance £0.00 IMMIGRANTS/REFUGEES LIVING IN BRITAIN Additional weekly hardship allowance £100.00 A British old age pensioner is no less hard up than an immigrant/refugee yet receives nothing . BRITISH OLD AGED PENSIONER TOTAL YEARLY BENEFIT £6,000 IMMIGRANTS/REFUGEES LIVING IN BRITAIN TOTAL YEARLY BENEFIT:£29,900 .Wondered where the capping figure for benefit of £26,000 came from that will be introduced – we have been sold down the river again .www.brokenbritainun dertories.com[/p][/quote]THE ABOVE IS RUBBISH IanfromCrook
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11:34pm Sun 27 Jan 13

IanfromCrook says...

BMD wrote:
Why not ask Gordon Brown for advice,

Oppp's, he's the clown that sold the country and labels the electorate "Bigots" for questioning Labor’s immigration policy.
Well he was doing several jobs at once running the economies of Italy, Greece, Iceland the USA and others. Mad Mad Mad I despair that some people still seem to buy this line. Poor bloke the only politician that could not spin if it saved his life got the top job just as world economy went down the toilet. The 'bigot' remark was wrong but it kind of proves my point. If it was not for him we would have had complete collapse and if we had not abandoned him he may have got us out of it...........but we forsake Mr Straight for a pair or whirling dervishes so out of control that they are hoping just watching them will make us dizzy enough to vote them in again.
[quote][p][bold]BMD[/bold] wrote: Why not ask Gordon Brown for advice, Oppp's, he's the clown that sold the country and labels the electorate "Bigots" for questioning Labor’s immigration policy.[/p][/quote]Well he was doing several jobs at once running the economies of Italy, Greece, Iceland the USA and others. Mad Mad Mad I despair that some people still seem to buy this line. Poor bloke the only politician that could not spin if it saved his life got the top job just as world economy went down the toilet. The 'bigot' remark was wrong but it kind of proves my point. If it was not for him we would have had complete collapse and if we had not abandoned him he may have got us out of it...........but we forsake Mr Straight for a pair or whirling dervishes so out of control that they are hoping just watching them will make us dizzy enough to vote them in again. IanfromCrook
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12:14pm Mon 28 Jan 13

Jonn says...

This is what happens when you throw everything at the banks and nothing at the economy. George has no interest in the economy.
They tell us unemployment is down, employment is up, crime is down 10%, deficit cut by 25%, inflation rate is 2.7%. If you believe that load of ****, you'll believe anything.
We are in a depression and 99% of us are in the sh*t because of the 1%.
This is what happens when you throw everything at the banks and nothing at the economy. George has no interest in the economy. They tell us unemployment is down, employment is up, crime is down 10%, deficit cut by 25%, inflation rate is 2.7%. If you believe that load of ****, you'll believe anything. We are in a depression and 99% of us are in the sh*t because of the 1%. Jonn
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12:52pm Tue 29 Jan 13

David Lacey says...

Once again we have a leftie calling the ONS a bunch of liars. You are a fool sir.
Once again we have a leftie calling the ONS a bunch of liars. You are a fool sir. David Lacey
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2:42pm Tue 29 Jan 13

ajtib3 says...

David Lacey wrote:
Once again we have a leftie calling the ONS a bunch of liars. You are a fool sir.
Strangely irrelevant comment on this thread - perhaps you were replying to Graeme r on today's letters page headed 'Sinking Ship'?

Who's the fool now Deluded?
[quote][p][bold]David Lacey[/bold] wrote: Once again we have a leftie calling the ONS a bunch of liars. You are a fool sir.[/p][/quote]Strangely irrelevant comment on this thread - perhaps you were replying to Graeme r on today's letters page headed 'Sinking Ship'? Who's the fool now Deluded? ajtib3
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8:06pm Tue 29 Jan 13

IanfromCrook says...

ONS says that unemployment fell by 0.2%. Reports about temporary employment average out at around 5% increase. Cannot find stats on whether part time have decreased or increased.
ONS figures about deficit:
Public sector net borrowing was £15.4 billion in December 2012; this is £0.6 billion higher net borrowing than in December 2011, when net borrowing was £14.8 billion.
Public sector current budget deficit was £13.0 billion in December 2012; this is a £0.5 billion higher deficit than in December 2011, when there was a deficit of £12.5 billion.
So given the above figures the government says that the deficit has been cut by a quarter...I do not know where. However I do know that the Office of Budget Responsibility was forecasting exactly the same as the government on the basis of policies in place in May 2010.

So no I do not trust the policies of the government and believe less the spin they churn out. It is not easy to dig up the truth as the national press is so partisan that no statistics they print should be automatically believed.

How can you tell if a politicians lying?
......please cant anyone tell me this is not a joke!
ONS says that unemployment fell by 0.2%. Reports about temporary employment average out at around 5% increase. Cannot find stats on whether part time have decreased or increased. ONS figures about deficit: Public sector net borrowing was £15.4 billion in December 2012; this is £0.6 billion higher net borrowing than in December 2011, when net borrowing was £14.8 billion. Public sector current budget deficit was £13.0 billion in December 2012; this is a £0.5 billion higher deficit than in December 2011, when there was a deficit of £12.5 billion. So given the above figures the government says that the deficit has been cut by a quarter...I do not know where. However I do know that the Office of Budget Responsibility was forecasting exactly the same as the government on the basis of policies in place in May 2010. So no I do not trust the policies of the government and believe less the spin they churn out. It is not easy to dig up the truth as the national press is so partisan that no statistics they print should be automatically believed. How can you tell if a politicians lying? ......please cant anyone tell me this is not a joke! IanfromCrook
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12:40pm Wed 30 Jan 13

simmo707 says...

BROKEN BRITAIN UNDER TORIES – FREEZING WEATHER – FREEZING ECONOMY – BRITISH PUBLIC FROZEN
Cameron’s credibility has found to be lacking any moral substance in Britain ,is he now trying to build a reputation as a World Statesman by visiting Algeria ,or as usual is it because it’s in the news and he always like to be associated with the limelight .What an earth possesses a man who has totally decimated a whole counties social fabric to poke his nose into a situation that is already under control .Does he think the World is blinkered to the draconian methods he has used to bring the British Public to heel to his Dickensian way of thinking .Cameron you deserve an Oscar for your performance ,but it’s time the British Public brought the curtain down on you and your disreputable cohorts .Say goodnight Dave games up .
www.brokenbritainund
ertories.com
BROKEN BRITAIN UNDER TORIES – FREEZING WEATHER – FREEZING ECONOMY – BRITISH PUBLIC FROZEN Cameron’s credibility has found to be lacking any moral substance in Britain ,is he now trying to build a reputation as a World Statesman by visiting Algeria ,or as usual is it because it’s in the news and he always like to be associated with the limelight .What an earth possesses a man who has totally decimated a whole counties social fabric to poke his nose into a situation that is already under control .Does he think the World is blinkered to the draconian methods he has used to bring the British Public to heel to his Dickensian way of thinking .Cameron you deserve an Oscar for your performance ,but it’s time the British Public brought the curtain down on you and your disreputable cohorts .Say goodnight Dave games up . www.brokenbritainund ertories.com simmo707
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4:59pm Wed 30 Jan 13

David Lacey says...

BWNOL - directly above my message is a posting from Jonn quoting ONS statistics and querying their veracity. DIRECTLY ABOVE. Too hard for you to see the link? I guess so. Fool? Try a mirror.
BWNOL - directly above my message is a posting from Jonn quoting ONS statistics and querying their veracity. DIRECTLY ABOVE. Too hard for you to see the link? I guess so. Fool? Try a mirror. David Lacey
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5:10pm Wed 30 Jan 13

simmo707 says...

johnny_p wrote:
Another attention grabbing anti Tory (or rather anything that's not Labour) headline.

Funny isn't it that they failed to mention anywhere that unemployment has fallen by 37,000 but prefer to dwell on a minor blip on growth.
There is nothing to choose between any party nowadays they all pi** in the same pot - Blair started the downfall of this Country Tories have continued the decline .
[quote][p][bold]johnny_p[/bold] wrote: Another attention grabbing anti Tory (or rather anything that's not Labour) headline. Funny isn't it that they failed to mention anywhere that unemployment has fallen by 37,000 but prefer to dwell on a minor blip on growth.[/p][/quote]There is nothing to choose between any party nowadays they all pi** in the same pot - Blair started the downfall of this Country Tories have continued the decline . simmo707
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6:45pm Wed 30 Jan 13

Jonn says...

David Lacey wrote:
Once again we have a leftie calling the ONS a bunch of liars. You are a fool sir.
Just because I find fault with current Government does not mean I am of an opposing political persuasion. I much prefer independent thought and find all Governments to be lying, cheating, greedy, self serving hippocrites who treat the mass population with utter contempt. It's also unfortunate that we have a chancellor in charge who has absolutely no previous experience in finance.
Did you know that anyone claiming the out of work benefit JSA and is then referred to The Work Programme is no longer classed as unemployed but employed? They are still claiming an out of work benefit, have no employment rights but are now magically classed in the employment figures. 800k were referred to this Work Programme last year but it's sucess rate is 3.5% because it's a joke.
Did you know that record numbers of sanctions were placed on JSA claimants last year? You are no longer included in the unemployment stats if you have a sanction.
Camerons claim that 1 million private sector jobs have been created is all smoke and mirrors. Did you know that in March last year, 196,000 further education teachers were reclassified from the public to private sector? He failed to mention that in his claim.
Crime down 10% in a year? You really believe that? We have less Police, all under pressure to not record crime. We have more criminals not being sent to prison just as prisons are being closed.
We also have the way inflation is calculated changed everytime the Government feels like it. If it were calculated the same as in the early 80's it would be 10% today.
[quote][p][bold]David Lacey[/bold] wrote: Once again we have a leftie calling the ONS a bunch of liars. You are a fool sir.[/p][/quote]Just because I find fault with current Government does not mean I am of an opposing political persuasion. I much prefer independent thought and find all Governments to be lying, cheating, greedy, self serving hippocrites who treat the mass population with utter contempt. It's also unfortunate that we have a chancellor in charge who has absolutely no previous experience in finance. Did you know that anyone claiming the out of work benefit JSA and is then referred to The Work Programme is no longer classed as unemployed but employed? They are still claiming an out of work benefit, have no employment rights but are now magically classed in the employment figures. 800k were referred to this Work Programme last year but it's sucess rate is 3.5% because it's a joke. Did you know that record numbers of sanctions were placed on JSA claimants last year? You are no longer included in the unemployment stats if you have a sanction. Camerons claim that 1 million private sector jobs have been created is all smoke and mirrors. Did you know that in March last year, 196,000 further education teachers were reclassified from the public to private sector? He failed to mention that in his claim. Crime down 10% in a year? You really believe that? We have less Police, all under pressure to not record crime. We have more criminals not being sent to prison just as prisons are being closed. We also have the way inflation is calculated changed everytime the Government feels like it. If it were calculated the same as in the early 80's it would be 10% today. Jonn
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7:14pm Wed 30 Jan 13

ajtib3 says...

David Lacey wrote:
BWNOL - directly above my message is a posting from Jonn quoting ONS statistics and querying their veracity. DIRECTLY ABOVE. Too hard for you to see the link? I guess so. Fool? Try a mirror.
Nope - don't buy it I'm afraid Deluded.

The comment was meant to reply to one addressed directly to you twenty odd minutes earlier on the 'Sinking Ship' thread not one over twenty-four hours earlier on this one.

Just admit it - its so obvious anyway.
[quote][p][bold]David Lacey[/bold] wrote: BWNOL - directly above my message is a posting from Jonn quoting ONS statistics and querying their veracity. DIRECTLY ABOVE. Too hard for you to see the link? I guess so. Fool? Try a mirror.[/p][/quote]Nope - don't buy it I'm afraid Deluded. The comment was meant to reply to one addressed directly to you twenty odd minutes earlier on the 'Sinking Ship' thread not one over twenty-four hours earlier on this one. Just admit it - its so obvious anyway. ajtib3
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7:17pm Wed 30 Jan 13

ajtib3 says...

Of course, I could just be winding you up as usual :)
Of course, I could just be winding you up as usual :) ajtib3
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7:58pm Wed 30 Jan 13

victorjames says...

CynicaloldGit wrote:
Well that's what you get when you employ a failed jounalist/data clerk/ towel folder in the most important office in the land............... init?
Could not have put it better. Risen without trace. I'd laugh but I've got grandchildren.
[quote][p][bold]CynicaloldGit[/bold] wrote: Well that's what you get when you employ a failed jounalist/data clerk/ towel folder in the most important office in the land............... init?[/p][/quote]Could not have put it better. Risen without trace. I'd laugh but I've got grandchildren. victorjames
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8:40pm Wed 30 Jan 13

gramps427 says...

The social fabric of this country is falling apart; but its destruction started as long ago as the 1960's. This is when the Elite started to create the Global Economy; code for moving mass manufacturing work away from Britain, old Europe & the USA. What's happening to our economy now is as a direct result of this movement as they have lost control thanks to the Government enhanced corruption of the Financial machine developed in this country. It matters little how inept George Osbourne is or Gordon Brown was, whats real is that they all lie for political reasons. Trade Unions and company management were equally guilty of mis managing our industries- it is no surprise that what remains of our manufacturing heritage is foreign owned and that the largest employment sector is the poorly paid service sector. It is no surprise that Government after Government has lied about our relationship with Europe and that the majority of Brits want out. It is also no surprise that selfish greedy middle class Britain has enabled it to happen, and the rest were too lazy or ignorant to notice-until it became too late.
The social fabric of this country is falling apart; but its destruction started as long ago as the 1960's. This is when the Elite started to create the Global Economy; code for moving mass manufacturing work away from Britain, old Europe & the USA. What's happening to our economy now is as a direct result of this movement as they have lost control thanks to the Government enhanced corruption of the Financial machine developed in this country. It matters little how inept George Osbourne is or Gordon Brown was, whats real is that they all lie for political reasons. Trade Unions and company management were equally guilty of mis managing our industries- it is no surprise that what remains of our manufacturing heritage is foreign owned and that the largest employment sector is the poorly paid service sector. It is no surprise that Government after Government has lied about our relationship with Europe and that the majority of Brits want out. It is also no surprise that selfish greedy middle class Britain has enabled it to happen, and the rest were too lazy or ignorant to notice-until it became too late. gramps427
  • Score: 0

8:40pm Wed 30 Jan 13

gramps427 says...

The social fabric of this country is falling apart; but its destruction started as long ago as the 1960's. This is when the Elite started to create the Global Economy; code for moving mass manufacturing work away from Britain, old Europe & the USA. What's happening to our economy now is as a direct result of this movement as they have lost control thanks to the Government enhanced corruption of the Financial machine developed in this country. It matters little how inept George Osbourne is or Gordon Brown was, whats real is that they all lie for political reasons. Trade Unions and company management were equally guilty of mis managing our industries- it is no surprise that what remains of our manufacturing heritage is foreign owned and that the largest employment sector is the poorly paid service sector. It is no surprise that Government after Government has lied about our relationship with Europe and that the majority of Brits want out. It is also no surprise that selfish greedy middle class Britain has enabled it to happen, and the rest were too lazy or ignorant to notice-until it became too late.
The social fabric of this country is falling apart; but its destruction started as long ago as the 1960's. This is when the Elite started to create the Global Economy; code for moving mass manufacturing work away from Britain, old Europe & the USA. What's happening to our economy now is as a direct result of this movement as they have lost control thanks to the Government enhanced corruption of the Financial machine developed in this country. It matters little how inept George Osbourne is or Gordon Brown was, whats real is that they all lie for political reasons. Trade Unions and company management were equally guilty of mis managing our industries- it is no surprise that what remains of our manufacturing heritage is foreign owned and that the largest employment sector is the poorly paid service sector. It is no surprise that Government after Government has lied about our relationship with Europe and that the majority of Brits want out. It is also no surprise that selfish greedy middle class Britain has enabled it to happen, and the rest were too lazy or ignorant to notice-until it became too late. gramps427
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6:06am Thu 31 Jan 13

Rt. Hon. DJ says...

happyguy wrote:
But its not the fault of the tory led coalition with its misery causing policies or the nasty money grabbing bankers who caused the financial crisis its the last nasty labour government to blame lol
There's nothing at all funny about your statement as it's 100% accurate. Only someone with zero intelligence would say otherwise.
[quote][p][bold]happyguy[/bold] wrote: But its not the fault of the tory led coalition with its misery causing policies or the nasty money grabbing bankers who caused the financial crisis its the last nasty labour government to blame lol[/p][/quote]There's nothing at all funny about your statement as it's 100% accurate. Only someone with zero intelligence would say otherwise. Rt. Hon. DJ
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6:53am Thu 31 Jan 13

jd6620 says...

Seen it all before , tories will be starting to get things back on course, as they are slowly but will be voted out at election because of making difficult unpopular decisions & labour will come in on a wave of tory policys & **** it allup again. Imagine it grommit Milliband & his sidekick Ed Ballsup running th country.
Seen it all before , tories will be starting to get things back on course, as they are slowly but will be voted out at election because of making difficult unpopular decisions & labour will come in on a wave of tory policys & **** it allup again. Imagine it grommit Milliband & his sidekick Ed Ballsup running th country. jd6620
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10:12am Thu 31 Jan 13

IanfromCrook says...

Rt. Hon. DJ wrote:
happyguy wrote:
But its not the fault of the tory led coalition with its misery causing policies or the nasty money grabbing bankers who caused the financial crisis its the last nasty labour government to blame lol
There's nothing at all funny about your statement as it's 100% accurate. Only someone with zero intelligence would say otherwise.
Its the emperors new clothes. Rt.Hon.DJ says you must be stupid if you do not agree with him. Sorry DJ but I would tell the Emperor hey mate your naked if you want to see the definition of gullibility take a good dispassionate look in the mirror. Same advice to yourself DJ dig for the reality.
[quote][p][bold]Rt. Hon. DJ[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]happyguy[/bold] wrote: But its not the fault of the tory led coalition with its misery causing policies or the nasty money grabbing bankers who caused the financial crisis its the last nasty labour government to blame lol[/p][/quote]There's nothing at all funny about your statement as it's 100% accurate. Only someone with zero intelligence would say otherwise.[/p][/quote]Its the emperors new clothes. Rt.Hon.DJ says you must be stupid if you do not agree with him. Sorry DJ but I would tell the Emperor hey mate your naked if you want to see the definition of gullibility take a good dispassionate look in the mirror. Same advice to yourself DJ dig for the reality. IanfromCrook
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1:07pm Thu 31 Jan 13

ajtib3 says...

jd6620 wrote:
Seen it all before , tories will be starting to get things back on course, as they are slowly but will be voted out at election because of making difficult unpopular decisions & labour will come in on a wave of tory policys & **** it allup again. Imagine it grommit Milliband & his sidekick Ed Ballsup running th country.
Getting things back on course?

Take it that is meant to be a joke?

The economy would probably have improved further if they'd just left it alone altogether - completely useless Chancellor facing one disaster after another and hasn't a clue what to do.
[quote][p][bold]jd6620[/bold] wrote: Seen it all before , tories will be starting to get things back on course, as they are slowly but will be voted out at election because of making difficult unpopular decisions & labour will come in on a wave of tory policys & **** it allup again. Imagine it grommit Milliband & his sidekick Ed Ballsup running th country.[/p][/quote]Getting things back on course? Take it that is meant to be a joke? The economy would probably have improved further if they'd just left it alone altogether - completely useless Chancellor facing one disaster after another and hasn't a clue what to do. ajtib3
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2:46pm Thu 31 Jan 13

simmo707 says...

Both Blair and Cameron courted the media empire of Murdoch and big business .Blair introduced the minimum wage and began Welfare Reform .Cameron has made disposable income for the British Public decrease even further .Both have engaged in Illegal wars at immense cost to us the TAX PAYER (everyone pays tax in this country because everything is taxed) .Both have covered up PEADOPHILIA within Government ,Entertainment and Care Homes .Both are very weak ,Blair with Brown ,Cameron with ID Smith and Grayling ,both attack dogs .Their ambitions took precedence .
What is the common factor between Hitler ,Blair and Cameron ,their ambitions came first ,they all have innocent blood on their hands ,they have all lied to the General Public ,they all have dubious skeletons in the cupboard . They are all far worse than any member of the Public incarcerated or not ,and some people actually respect them .
REGAIN YOUR SELF RESPECT NOTHING ANY OF THEM HAVE DONE WAS FOR ANOTHERS BENEFIT !
Both Blair and Cameron courted the media empire of Murdoch and big business .Blair introduced the minimum wage and began Welfare Reform .Cameron has made disposable income for the British Public decrease even further .Both have engaged in Illegal wars at immense cost to us the TAX PAYER (everyone pays tax in this country because everything is taxed) .Both have covered up PEADOPHILIA within Government ,Entertainment and Care Homes .Both are very weak ,Blair with Brown ,Cameron with ID Smith and Grayling ,both attack dogs .Their ambitions took precedence . What is the common factor between Hitler ,Blair and Cameron ,their ambitions came first ,they all have innocent blood on their hands ,they have all lied to the General Public ,they all have dubious skeletons in the cupboard . They are all far worse than any member of the Public incarcerated or not ,and some people actually respect them . REGAIN YOUR SELF RESPECT NOTHING ANY OF THEM HAVE DONE WAS FOR ANOTHERS BENEFIT ! simmo707
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9:11pm Thu 31 Jan 13

loan_star says...

jd6620 wrote:
Seen it all before , tories will be starting to get things back on course, as they are slowly but will be voted out at election because of making difficult unpopular decisions & labour will come in on a wave of tory policys & **** it allup again. Imagine it grommit Milliband & his sidekick Ed Ballsup running th country.
It makes me wonder, people complain about Osbourne having no qualifications to be a chancellor but the alternative is Ed Balls!! Out of the frying pan, into the fire!!
[quote][p][bold]jd6620[/bold] wrote: Seen it all before , tories will be starting to get things back on course, as they are slowly but will be voted out at election because of making difficult unpopular decisions & labour will come in on a wave of tory policys & **** it allup again. Imagine it grommit Milliband & his sidekick Ed Ballsup running th country.[/p][/quote]It makes me wonder, people complain about Osbourne having no qualifications to be a chancellor but the alternative is Ed Balls!! Out of the frying pan, into the fire!! loan_star
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5:37am Fri 1 Feb 13

jd6620 says...

Balls was Browns Treasury Advisor, I rest my case your Honour.
Balls was Browns Treasury Advisor, I rest my case your Honour. jd6620
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5:42am Fri 1 Feb 13

jd6620 says...

ajtib3 wrote:
jd6620 wrote:
Seen it all before , tories will be starting to get things back on course, as they are slowly but will be voted out at election because of making difficult unpopular decisions & labour will come in on a wave of tory policys & **** it allup again. Imagine it grommit Milliband & his sidekick Ed Ballsup running th country.
Getting things back on course?

Take it that is meant to be a joke?

The economy would probably have improved further if they'd just left it alone altogether - completely useless Chancellor facing one disaster after another and hasn't a clue what to do.
As they say a week is a long time in politics, & we have yet to hear a creditable alternative from Grommit & his lot yet apart from the tiresome tax the rich which never works.
[quote][p][bold]ajtib3[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jd6620[/bold] wrote: Seen it all before , tories will be starting to get things back on course, as they are slowly but will be voted out at election because of making difficult unpopular decisions & labour will come in on a wave of tory policys & **** it allup again. Imagine it grommit Milliband & his sidekick Ed Ballsup running th country.[/p][/quote]Getting things back on course? Take it that is meant to be a joke? The economy would probably have improved further if they'd just left it alone altogether - completely useless Chancellor facing one disaster after another and hasn't a clue what to do.[/p][/quote]As they say a week is a long time in politics, & we have yet to hear a creditable alternative from Grommit & his lot yet apart from the tiresome tax the rich which never works. jd6620
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8:57am Fri 1 Feb 13

Jonn says...

loan_star wrote:
jd6620 wrote:
Seen it all before , tories will be starting to get things back on course, as they are slowly but will be voted out at election because of making difficult unpopular decisions & labour will come in on a wave of tory policys & **** it allup again. Imagine it grommit Milliband & his sidekick Ed Ballsup running th country.
It makes me wonder, people complain about Osbourne having no qualifications to be a chancellor but the alternative is Ed Balls!! Out of the frying pan, into the fire!!
No, that's not the only altenative. Sack Osbourne immediately and replace him with someone, anyone with at least an A level in economics.
[quote][p][bold]loan_star[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jd6620[/bold] wrote: Seen it all before , tories will be starting to get things back on course, as they are slowly but will be voted out at election because of making difficult unpopular decisions & labour will come in on a wave of tory policys & **** it allup again. Imagine it grommit Milliband & his sidekick Ed Ballsup running th country.[/p][/quote]It makes me wonder, people complain about Osbourne having no qualifications to be a chancellor but the alternative is Ed Balls!! Out of the frying pan, into the fire!![/p][/quote]No, that's not the only altenative. Sack Osbourne immediately and replace him with someone, anyone with at least an A level in economics. Jonn
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9:02am Fri 1 Feb 13

simmo707 says...

johnny_p wrote:
Another attention grabbing anti Tory (or rather anything that's not Labour) headline.

Funny isn't it that they failed to mention anywhere that unemployment has fallen by 37,000 but prefer to dwell on a minor blip on growth.
What Country do you live in obviously not the UK - anti Tory ,blip ,obviously you are that gullible to fall for the bul*sh** metered out and that blinkered the jobless figure of 5000,000 is insignificant compared to the 37,000 mandatory work placements created ,you could call this Government the God Party and still not find anyone with an ounce of intelligence that wouldnt be concerned about their failures
[quote][p][bold]johnny_p[/bold] wrote: Another attention grabbing anti Tory (or rather anything that's not Labour) headline. Funny isn't it that they failed to mention anywhere that unemployment has fallen by 37,000 but prefer to dwell on a minor blip on growth.[/p][/quote]What Country do you live in obviously not the UK - anti Tory ,blip ,obviously you are that gullible to fall for the bul*sh** metered out and that blinkered the jobless figure of 5000,000 is insignificant compared to the 37,000 mandatory work placements created ,you could call this Government the God Party and still not find anyone with an ounce of intelligence that wouldnt be concerned about their failures simmo707
  • Score: 0

9:52am Fri 1 Feb 13

alexnico says...

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7:19pm Fri 1 Feb 13

simmo707 says...

IanfromCrook wrote:
simmo707 wrote:
BROKEN BRITAINUNDER TORIES – OLD AGE PENSION V IMMIGRANTS/REFUGEES
Absolutely nothing against immigrants or refugees but surely this cannot be right.
Are you aware of the following ? The British Government provides the following financial assistance :-
BRITISH OLD AGED PENSIONER (bearing in mind they worked hard and paid
their Income Tax and National Insurance contributions to the British
government all their working life) Weekly allowance: £106.00
IMMIGRANTS/REFUGEES LIVING IN BRITAIN (No Income Tax and National
Insurance contribution whatsoever) Weekly allowance: £250.00 BRITISH OLD AGED PENSIONER Weekly Spouse allowance: £25.00
IMMIGRANTS/REFUGEES LIVING IN BRITAIN Weekly Spouse
allowance: £225.00 BRITISH OLD AGED PENSIONER Additional weekly hardship
allowance £0.00
IMMIGRANTS/REFUGEES LIVING IN BRITAIN Additional weekly
hardship allowance £100.00 A British old age pensioner is no less hard up than an
immigrant/refugee yet receives nothing .
BRITISH OLD AGED PENSIONER TOTAL YEARLY BENEFIT £6,000
IMMIGRANTS/REFUGEES LIVING IN BRITAIN TOTAL YEARLY BENEFIT:£29,900 .Wondered where the capping figure for benefit of £26,000 came from that will be introduced – we have been sold down the river again .www.brokenbritainun


dertories.com
THE ABOVE IS RUBBISH
The above is rubbish in your book because you have forgotten to remove your head from up your ar*e
[quote][p][bold]IanfromCrook[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]simmo707[/bold] wrote: BROKEN BRITAINUNDER TORIES – OLD AGE PENSION V IMMIGRANTS/REFUGEES Absolutely nothing against immigrants or refugees but surely this cannot be right. Are you aware of the following ? The British Government provides the following financial assistance :- BRITISH OLD AGED PENSIONER (bearing in mind they worked hard and paid their Income Tax and National Insurance contributions to the British government all their working life) Weekly allowance: £106.00 IMMIGRANTS/REFUGEES LIVING IN BRITAIN (No Income Tax and National Insurance contribution whatsoever) Weekly allowance: £250.00 BRITISH OLD AGED PENSIONER Weekly Spouse allowance: £25.00 IMMIGRANTS/REFUGEES LIVING IN BRITAIN Weekly Spouse allowance: £225.00 BRITISH OLD AGED PENSIONER Additional weekly hardship allowance £0.00 IMMIGRANTS/REFUGEES LIVING IN BRITAIN Additional weekly hardship allowance £100.00 A British old age pensioner is no less hard up than an immigrant/refugee yet receives nothing . BRITISH OLD AGED PENSIONER TOTAL YEARLY BENEFIT £6,000 IMMIGRANTS/REFUGEES LIVING IN BRITAIN TOTAL YEARLY BENEFIT:£29,900 .Wondered where the capping figure for benefit of £26,000 came from that will be introduced – we have been sold down the river again .www.brokenbritainun dertories.com[/p][/quote]THE ABOVE IS RUBBISH[/p][/quote]The above is rubbish in your book because you have forgotten to remove your head from up your ar*e simmo707
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8:23pm Fri 1 Feb 13

IanfromCrook says...

simmo707 wrote:
IanfromCrook wrote:
simmo707 wrote:
BROKEN BRITAINUNDER TORIES – OLD AGE PENSION V IMMIGRANTS/REFUGEES
Absolutely nothing against immigrants or refugees but surely this cannot be right.
Are you aware of the following ? The British Government provides the following financial assistance :-
BRITISH OLD AGED PENSIONER (bearing in mind they worked hard and paid
their Income Tax and National Insurance contributions to the British
government all their working life) Weekly allowance: £106.00
IMMIGRANTS/REFUGEES LIVING IN BRITAIN (No Income Tax and National
Insurance contribution whatsoever) Weekly allowance: £250.00 BRITISH OLD AGED PENSIONER Weekly Spouse allowance: £25.00
IMMIGRANTS/REFUGEES LIVING IN BRITAIN Weekly Spouse
allowance: £225.00 BRITISH OLD AGED PENSIONER Additional weekly hardship
allowance £0.00
IMMIGRANTS/REFUGEES LIVING IN BRITAIN Additional weekly
hardship allowance £100.00 A British old age pensioner is no less hard up than an
immigrant/refugee yet receives nothing .
BRITISH OLD AGED PENSIONER TOTAL YEARLY BENEFIT £6,000
IMMIGRANTS/REFUGEES LIVING IN BRITAIN TOTAL YEARLY BENEFIT:£29,900 .Wondered where the capping figure for benefit of £26,000 came from that will be introduced – we have been sold down the river again .www.brokenbritainun



dertories.com
THE ABOVE IS RUBBISH
The above is rubbish in your book because you have forgotten to remove your head from up your ar*e
No rubbish because as I have posted the correct figures published by the DWP in the past proving it to be rubbish. I checked out your website Mr Simmons, or rather your friend Mr Gough's website and would, without checking out everything on it, dare bet that none of it is true.
[quote][p][bold]simmo707[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IanfromCrook[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]simmo707[/bold] wrote: BROKEN BRITAINUNDER TORIES – OLD AGE PENSION V IMMIGRANTS/REFUGEES Absolutely nothing against immigrants or refugees but surely this cannot be right. Are you aware of the following ? The British Government provides the following financial assistance :- BRITISH OLD AGED PENSIONER (bearing in mind they worked hard and paid their Income Tax and National Insurance contributions to the British government all their working life) Weekly allowance: £106.00 IMMIGRANTS/REFUGEES LIVING IN BRITAIN (No Income Tax and National Insurance contribution whatsoever) Weekly allowance: £250.00 BRITISH OLD AGED PENSIONER Weekly Spouse allowance: £25.00 IMMIGRANTS/REFUGEES LIVING IN BRITAIN Weekly Spouse allowance: £225.00 BRITISH OLD AGED PENSIONER Additional weekly hardship allowance £0.00 IMMIGRANTS/REFUGEES LIVING IN BRITAIN Additional weekly hardship allowance £100.00 A British old age pensioner is no less hard up than an immigrant/refugee yet receives nothing . BRITISH OLD AGED PENSIONER TOTAL YEARLY BENEFIT £6,000 IMMIGRANTS/REFUGEES LIVING IN BRITAIN TOTAL YEARLY BENEFIT:£29,900 .Wondered where the capping figure for benefit of £26,000 came from that will be introduced – we have been sold down the river again .www.brokenbritainun dertories.com[/p][/quote]THE ABOVE IS RUBBISH[/p][/quote]The above is rubbish in your book because you have forgotten to remove your head from up your ar*e[/p][/quote]No rubbish because as I have posted the correct figures published by the DWP in the past proving it to be rubbish. I checked out your website Mr Simmons, or rather your friend Mr Gough's website and would, without checking out everything on it, dare bet that none of it is true. IanfromCrook
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3:58pm Sun 3 Feb 13

simmo707 says...

IanfromCrook wrote:
simmo707 wrote:
IanfromCrook wrote:
simmo707 wrote:
BROKEN BRITAINUNDER TORIES – OLD AGE PENSION V IMMIGRANTS/REFUGEES
Absolutely nothing against immigrants or refugees but surely this cannot be right.
Are you aware of the following ? The British Government provides the following financial assistance :-
BRITISH OLD AGED PENSIONER (bearing in mind they worked hard and paid
their Income Tax and National Insurance contributions to the British
government all their working life) Weekly allowance: £106.00
IMMIGRANTS/REFUGEES LIVING IN BRITAIN (No Income Tax and National
Insurance contribution whatsoever) Weekly allowance: £250.00 BRITISH OLD AGED PENSIONER Weekly Spouse allowance: £25.00
IMMIGRANTS/REFUGEES LIVING IN BRITAIN Weekly Spouse
allowance: £225.00 BRITISH OLD AGED PENSIONER Additional weekly hardship
allowance £0.00
IMMIGRANTS/REFUGEES LIVING IN BRITAIN Additional weekly
hardship allowance £100.00 A British old age pensioner is no less hard up than an
immigrant/refugee yet receives nothing .
BRITISH OLD AGED PENSIONER TOTAL YEARLY BENEFIT £6,000
IMMIGRANTS/REFUGEES LIVING IN BRITAIN TOTAL YEARLY BENEFIT:£29,900 .Wondered where the capping figure for benefit of £26,000 came from that will be introduced – we have been sold down the river again .www.brokenbritainun




dertories.com
THE ABOVE IS RUBBISH
The above is rubbish in your book because you have forgotten to remove your head from up your ar*e
No rubbish because as I have posted the correct figures published by the DWP in the past proving it to be rubbish. I checked out your website Mr Simmons, or rather your friend Mr Gough's website and would, without checking out everything on it, dare bet that none of it is true.
LOL you checked on the DWP website lol what it says on there and what happens in reality are two different things ,typical sheep ,I merely aired an OAP's reply to me,I did not say it was factual ,put your head back where it deserves to be and give us all a break to get some fresh air lol "I read it on DWP website " LOL
[quote][p][bold]IanfromCrook[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]simmo707[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IanfromCrook[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]simmo707[/bold] wrote: BROKEN BRITAINUNDER TORIES – OLD AGE PENSION V IMMIGRANTS/REFUGEES Absolutely nothing against immigrants or refugees but surely this cannot be right. Are you aware of the following ? The British Government provides the following financial assistance :- BRITISH OLD AGED PENSIONER (bearing in mind they worked hard and paid their Income Tax and National Insurance contributions to the British government all their working life) Weekly allowance: £106.00 IMMIGRANTS/REFUGEES LIVING IN BRITAIN (No Income Tax and National Insurance contribution whatsoever) Weekly allowance: £250.00 BRITISH OLD AGED PENSIONER Weekly Spouse allowance: £25.00 IMMIGRANTS/REFUGEES LIVING IN BRITAIN Weekly Spouse allowance: £225.00 BRITISH OLD AGED PENSIONER Additional weekly hardship allowance £0.00 IMMIGRANTS/REFUGEES LIVING IN BRITAIN Additional weekly hardship allowance £100.00 A British old age pensioner is no less hard up than an immigrant/refugee yet receives nothing . BRITISH OLD AGED PENSIONER TOTAL YEARLY BENEFIT £6,000 IMMIGRANTS/REFUGEES LIVING IN BRITAIN TOTAL YEARLY BENEFIT:£29,900 .Wondered where the capping figure for benefit of £26,000 came from that will be introduced – we have been sold down the river again .www.brokenbritainun dertories.com[/p][/quote]THE ABOVE IS RUBBISH[/p][/quote]The above is rubbish in your book because you have forgotten to remove your head from up your ar*e[/p][/quote]No rubbish because as I have posted the correct figures published by the DWP in the past proving it to be rubbish. I checked out your website Mr Simmons, or rather your friend Mr Gough's website and would, without checking out everything on it, dare bet that none of it is true.[/p][/quote]LOL you checked on the DWP website lol what it says on there and what happens in reality are two different things ,typical sheep ,I merely aired an OAP's reply to me,I did not say it was factual ,put your head back where it deserves to be and give us all a break to get some fresh air lol "I read it on DWP website " LOL simmo707
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5:40pm Sun 3 Feb 13

simmo707 says...

BROKEN BRITAIN UNDER TORIES – GOVERNMENT THE ENEMY WITHIN
What do successive Governments tell us – DO AS I SAY IM A POLITICIAN .
Can anyone recall the last time we had sound Government advice about anything ,they use so called ‘experts’ to back up any claim they want us to believe .These so called experts have some knowledge in their particular field but have sold out their principles for money and power .Any real experts will go against Government because 99% of the time they are selling the Public a duff idea .
Dr David Kelly – no weapons of mass destruction .Professor Harrington – reform Welfare Bill .David Nutt – dismissed Government claims on drugs - they were all on our side but sadly ignored and put on the back burner .What person can send another man to his potential death on Lies and Deceit any Government minister ,our troops are used as the muscle behind any Government agenda not publicly known and yet we and them are told your fighting in Britain’s interests .
Our troops are for our protection not to be used as cannon fodder for some jumped up privileged idiots own agenda .Governments of our time have had their chance and blown it .Its time the public learned to DISREPECT those in power because you are the last of their concerns ,we are used as their given permission to do as they please in a rich man ‘s playground we pay for .
Brtokenbritainundert
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BROKEN BRITAIN UNDER TORIES – GOVERNMENT THE ENEMY WITHIN What do successive Governments tell us – DO AS I SAY IM A POLITICIAN . Can anyone recall the last time we had sound Government advice about anything ,they use so called ‘experts’ to back up any claim they want us to believe .These so called experts have some knowledge in their particular field but have sold out their principles for money and power .Any real experts will go against Government because 99% of the time they are selling the Public a duff idea . Dr David Kelly – no weapons of mass destruction .Professor Harrington – reform Welfare Bill .David Nutt – dismissed Government claims on drugs - they were all on our side but sadly ignored and put on the back burner .What person can send another man to his potential death on Lies and Deceit any Government minister ,our troops are used as the muscle behind any Government agenda not publicly known and yet we and them are told your fighting in Britain’s interests . Our troops are for our protection not to be used as cannon fodder for some jumped up privileged idiots own agenda .Governments of our time have had their chance and blown it .Its time the public learned to DISREPECT those in power because you are the last of their concerns ,we are used as their given permission to do as they please in a rich man ‘s playground we pay for . Brtokenbritainundert ories.com simmo707
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8:03pm Sun 3 Feb 13

IanfromCrook says...

Simmo707 so you air bias figures as if they are facts when in fact you yourself believe them to be fiction. Not only that but it is not a one off mistake you repeat such rubbish continually on most threads. I believe that you use any information 'passed on' to you in order to give unsubstantiated credence to your obvious political slant. As for being a sheep, I investigate reliable sources and draw my own conclusions. You on the other hand are happy just to repeat any old dross. Who is the sheep???
Simmo707 so you air bias figures as if they are facts when in fact you yourself believe them to be fiction. Not only that but it is not a one off mistake you repeat such rubbish continually on most threads. I believe that you use any information 'passed on' to you in order to give unsubstantiated credence to your obvious political slant. As for being a sheep, I investigate reliable sources and draw my own conclusions. You on the other hand are happy just to repeat any old dross. Who is the sheep??? IanfromCrook
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9:41pm Sun 3 Feb 13

simmo707 says...

BAH BAH keep drawing your own conclusions - self praise is no recommendation - keep investigating away LOL
BAH BAH keep drawing your own conclusions - self praise is no recommendation - keep investigating away LOL simmo707
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