Referendum on Europe will put North-East jobs at risk, critics claim (From The Northern Echo)
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Referendum on Europe will put North-East jobs at risk, critics claim
7:10am Thursday 24th January 2013 in News
By Joe Willis, Regional Chief Reporter
THE Prime Minister's promise of an in/out referendum on Europe will increase economic uncertainty and put 140,000 North-East jobs at risk, critics claimed last night.
But leading Tories in the region defended David Cameron's announcement, saying it was the right approach to get the best deal possible for Britain - then let the country vote.
In a defining speech of his premiership, the Prime Minister pledged to negotiate a new settlement with Brussels and then give people the "simple choice" between staying in under those new terms, or leaving the EU.
The announcement was welcomed by Tory backbenchers who have long campaigned for a vote.
However, Labour MPs and union leaders in the region warned the referendum – potentially due in 2017 - would create four years of uncertainty for North-East businesses.
Judith Kirton-Darling, confederal secretary of the European TUC who is Middlesbrough based, claimed the pledge would undermine investment for many companies dependent on trade with European partners.
She added: “In the North-East alone, over 140,000 jobs are dependent on EU trade with over 63,000 of those in County Durham and Teesside. We cannot afford to lose a single one of them.
“David Cameron and Tory Eurosceptics are playing hard and fast with people's livelihoods in our region. It is deeply reckless.”
North Durham MP Kevan Jones said the referendum was “bad news” for the North-East economy.
“This will create four years of uncertainty for companies in the North East, who are already finding it tough in this economic climate.”
Fears of the announcement creating uncertainty were also expressed by North East Chamber of Commerce chief executive, James Ramsbotham.
He urged the Government to approach this issue with a “hard-headed economic assessment of the potential pros and cons”, adding: “If at any time this process starts to create damaging uncertainty we would expect Mr Cameron to act swiftly to secure the UK’s position in the global economy.”
But Stockton South Conservative MP James Wharton welcomed the announcement, saying Labour's claims of economic uncertainty were “utter rubbish”.
“This is exactly the right approach. We should get the best deal we possibly can on the table and then give the British people a choice.
“Whatever happens a renegotiation to bring back powers and strength Britain’s interests is welcome and by putting the conclusion of that process to the British people we can settle the matter for a generation.”
Foreign Secretary and Richmond MP William Hague also backed the referendum, which he claimed would set out Britain's approach on Europe for decades to come.
“I think this is something that will appeal to many people across many political parties,” he added.
In his speech in London, the Prime Minister said the Conservative manifesto for the 2015 general election would ask for a mandate to negotiate a new settlement for Britain in Europe, which will be put to voters in a referendum within the first half of the five-year parliament.
Mr Cameron said it was time for the EU to ditch the universal commitment to ever closer union and accept that members can decide for themselves how deeply they wanted to integrate.
Mr Cameron said it was his strong preference to enact these changes for the whole EU, not just Britain alone.
Standing in front of a backdrop with the slogan Britain and Europe, Mr Cameron said: “It is time for the British people to have their say. It is time to settle this European question in British politics.”
And he added: “When the referendum comes, let me say now that if we can negotiate such an arrangement, I will campaign for it with all my heart and soul.
“Because I believe something very deeply. That Britain's national interest is best served in a flexible, adaptable and open European Union and that such a European Union is best with Britain in it.”
Mr Cameron's speech came after months of pressure from Tory backbenchers unnerved by the surge in support for the Eurosceptic UK Independence Party (UKIP), which has regularly recorded ratings over ten per cent in recent polls.
UKIP Yorkshire MEP Godfrey Bloom claimed the Prime Minister's speech was a “devious attempt to kick the whole matter into the long grass”.
“It is based on him winning the General Election and a referendum would be five years down the line.
“In that time the EU will have caused further untold damage to our economy. We need an in-out referendum and we need it soon,” he added.
Comments(17)
simmo707
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9:52am Thu 24 Jan 13
Why does Merkel the Chancellor of Germany’s robust economy want the UK to remain in the EU - to help subsidise the Lame Duck the EU has become .The Policies and Politics of the EU are as dodgy as Britain’s you can never get a straight answer .Why are Ministers and campaigners ranting on about the Tax Evasion of Starbucks ,Amazon and Google but to mention a few ,by EU Law they are entitled to pay their tax to any member state ,and most do rather than the UK because the tax rates are cheaper elsewhere we are reducing ours this year to 20% .
Continued lies by the Media and Government repeatedly hide the facts from the general public so why should we believe them on any issues used to mask the real policies that affect us Welfare Reform ,Bedroom Tax ,Council Tax for those on Benefits this year .Universal Credit which rolls out in October 2013 – the EU let this Government get away with these Draconian measures in the name of Austerity – the EU is no friend of the British Public .OUT NOW !
LORDEGBUTNOBACON
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11:04am Thu 24 Jan 13
behonest
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11:26am Thu 24 Jan 13
What if Brussels tells Cameron to get lost? Either the Tories stay in the EU on the current terms or they get out? If I was Merkel, or any of the others, I would tell the Tories that the current terms of EU membership are what they are, they have all been agreed by member states, and if the Tories want a referendum then go ahead. But it will be a referendum on existing terms, no re-negotiation.
That becomes a much bigger decision for the Tories. Their right-wingers will be happy to grab all the powers back for themselves that they can, but although it may serve the interests of these Tories it would be a disaster for Britain.
Jaga
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11:39am Thu 24 Jan 13
Cameron might be as Nadine Dorres said one of , " little posh boys who don't even know the price of a bottle of milk", but he is doing a lot to put things right. He is doing a lot wrong as well.
A little snippet. Under 13 years of glorious Labour rule, more manufacturing jobs were lost in the north-east than created. Must be the Tories fault then.
If truth be told, no-one really knows what will happen if we leave the EU. We would hover, have control over our own destiny if we did - and no more silly subsidies to EU farming, no more destruction of our fishing waters, much less immigration, etc. etc. We've made our own way in the world successfully before, and can do so again.
David Lacey
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12:37pm Thu 24 Jan 13
ajtib3
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2:40pm Thu 24 Jan 13
loan_star wrote:Very probably - but they were saved then by the UK being in the EU and a certain amount of government bribery (er I mean grants!).
Are these the same jobs that were at risk if we didnt join the Euro?
So how much government aid (or our money) will we need to give them to stay now and will it be enough to attract new business in.
This is a flawed policy made simply for party political reasons and could spell disaster for Britain for no purpose - whatever is negotiated with the EU, Cameron would not propose coming out.
Of course, he knows he probably won't be in government then anyway so it will not really be his problem.
simmo707
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2:47pm Thu 24 Jan 13
Jaga wrote:Jaga its you that needs the history lesson if you care to remove your head from your arse - Labour was reducing the deficit and the title BROKEN BRITAIN UNDER TORIES is the title of my website - its doesent say the Tories Broke Britain - dont make statements that are not backed by fact - research and engage brain before opening mouth
simmo707, needs a history lesson. Blair, Brown and their incompetent followers broke Britain. The toxic Tories have, as usual, to pick up the pieces after the exit of a Labour Government. Not easy when there is no cash left.
Cameron might be as Nadine Dorres said one of , " little posh boys who don't even know the price of a bottle of milk", but he is doing a lot to put things right. He is doing a lot wrong as well.
A little snippet. Under 13 years of glorious Labour rule, more manufacturing jobs were lost in the north-east than created. Must be the Tories fault then.
If truth be told, no-one really knows what will happen if we leave the EU. We would hover, have control over our own destiny if we did - and no more silly subsidies to EU farming, no more destruction of our fishing waters, much less immigration, etc. etc. We've made our own way in the world successfully before, and can do so again.
ajtib3
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3:13pm Thu 24 Jan 13
I am intrigued by where those people on the Echo threads who currently support UKIP will give their support at the next election.
Vote Tory? possibly get a referendum - vote UKIP - guarantee a Labour victory or possibly at worst a Labour - Lib-Dem pact and no referendum at all.
And this could yet rebound big time on the Tories - if it sends big business behind the Labour Party at the next election.
Its a gamble based simply on trying to keep his own house in order -to h*ll with the country - typical of the self-indulgent attitude of Tories everywhere.
st-george1
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4:20pm Thu 24 Jan 13
-Prescott thugs who forced the unwanted, untrusted and incompetent Regional Assemblies onto us despite a near 80% NO VOTE, costing the North East of England lots of manufacturing jobs … evidence of the Labour Party legacy that blights many parts of this country and still shows that Labour really are the only party of NON-WORKING people ?
behonest
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4:21pm Thu 24 Jan 13
Whether we wage war on Iraq on the say so of the British government or the EU makes no difference to the 'British people' - we get no say either way.
ajtib3
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6:46pm Thu 24 Jan 13
st-george1 wrote:There was no regional assembly in the NE - it was voted against and didn't happen.
Lets see how the self-appointed Germans react to the threat of the UK leaving the EU and taking all the £billion fees back and hope they DO NOT ignore at some time in the future just what the British people want … unlike the 13 most disastrous years ever of the Maxrist-Labour-Blair
-Prescott thugs who forced the unwanted, untrusted and incompetent Regional Assemblies onto us despite a near 80% NO VOTE, costing the North East of England lots of manufacturing jobs … evidence of the Labour Party legacy that blights many parts of this country and still shows that Labour really are the only party of NON-WORKING people ?
Marxist Blair? - I take it that was meant to be ironic?
'Self-appointed Germans' - what does that mean - not by birth?
simmo707
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12:01pm Fri 25 Jan 13
Absolutely nothing against immigrants or refugees but surely this cannot be right.
Are you aware of the following ? The British Government provides the following financial assistance :-
BRITISH OLD AGED PENSIONER (bearing in mind they worked hard and paid
their Income Tax and National Insurance contributions to the British
government all their working life) Weekly allowance: £106.00
IMMIGRANTS/REFUGEES LIVING IN BRITAIN (No Income Tax and National
Insurance contribution whatsoever) Weekly allowance: £250.00 BRITISH OLD AGED PENSIONER Weekly Spouse allowance: £25.00
IMMIGRANTS/REFUGEES LIVING IN BRITAIN Weekly Spouse
allowance: £225.00 BRITISH OLD AGED PENSIONER Additional weekly hardship
allowance £0.00
IMMIGRANTS/REFUGEES LIVING IN BRITAIN Additional weekly
hardship allowance £100.00 A British old age pensioner is no less hard up than an
immigrant/refugee yet receives nothing .
BRITISH OLD AGED PENSIONER TOTAL YEARLY BENEFIT £6,000
IMMIGRANTS/REFUGEES LIVING IN BRITAIN TOTAL YEARLY BENEFIT:£29,900 .Wondered where the capping figure for benefit of £26,000 came from that will be introduced – we have been sold down the river again .www.brokenbritainun
dertories.com
mark.wilkinson
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6:02pm Fri 25 Jan 13
loan_star wrote:They certainly are.
Are these the same jobs that were at risk if we didnt join the Euro?
More scare mongering i'm afraid.
There is no evidence at all that jobs will be put at risk.
And if large employers like Nissan eta-ll try to use this as some kind of tool to extract many more millions from the English taxpayer then let them shut up shop and disappear.
ajtib3
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6:48pm Fri 25 Jan 13
mark.wilkinson wrote:There is every evidence - it has already happened with Nissan who accepted the £40 million of, not UK, but EU money to stay.
loan_star wrote:They certainly are.
Are these the same jobs that were at risk if we didnt join the Euro?
More scare mongering i'm afraid.
There is no evidence at all that jobs will be put at risk.
And if large employers like Nissan eta-ll try to use this as some kind of tool to extract many more millions from the English taxpayer then let them shut up shop and disappear.
How can you say its scaremongering then say 'but if they want our money tell them to leave'? Doesn't that mean you accept that is the risk?
And we may never know how many firms and jobs just never arrive because Britain is too costly to trade with.
the-big-yin
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7:29pm Fri 25 Jan 13
simmo707 wrote:WELL SAID !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BROKEN BRITAINUNDER TORIES – OLD AGE PENSION V IMMIGRANTS/REFUGEES
Absolutely nothing against immigrants or refugees but surely this cannot be right.
Are you aware of the following ? The British Government provides the following financial assistance :-
BRITISH OLD AGED PENSIONER (bearing in mind they worked hard and paid
their Income Tax and National Insurance contributions to the British
government all their working life) Weekly allowance: £106.00
IMMIGRANTS/REFUGEES LIVING IN BRITAIN (No Income Tax and National
Insurance contribution whatsoever) Weekly allowance: £250.00 BRITISH OLD AGED PENSIONER Weekly Spouse allowance: £25.00
IMMIGRANTS/REFUGEES LIVING IN BRITAIN Weekly Spouse
allowance: £225.00 BRITISH OLD AGED PENSIONER Additional weekly hardship
allowance £0.00
IMMIGRANTS/REFUGEES LIVING IN BRITAIN Additional weekly
hardship allowance £100.00 A British old age pensioner is no less hard up than an
immigrant/refugee yet receives nothing .
BRITISH OLD AGED PENSIONER TOTAL YEARLY BENEFIT £6,000
IMMIGRANTS/REFUGEES LIVING IN BRITAIN TOTAL YEARLY BENEFIT:£29,900 .Wondered where the capping figure for benefit of £26,000 came from that will be introduced – we have been sold down the river again .www.brokenbritainun
dertories.com
THIS COUNTRY IS FCUKED ANYWAY...NO MATTER WHO IS RUNNING IT......
IanfromCrook
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10:41pm Fri 25 Jan 13
simmo707 wrote:Rubbish touted by some extremists. Why do some people find such extreme points at dubious websites and believe them without question. Freedom of information request asked if this information was correct DWP responded as follows:
BROKEN BRITAINUNDER TORIES – OLD AGE PENSION V IMMIGRANTS/REFUGEES
Absolutely nothing against immigrants or refugees but surely this cannot be right.
Are you aware of the following ? The British Government provides the following financial assistance :-
BRITISH OLD AGED PENSIONER (bearing in mind they worked hard and paid
their Income Tax and National Insurance contributions to the British
government all their working life) Weekly allowance: £106.00
IMMIGRANTS/REFUGEES LIVING IN BRITAIN (No Income Tax and National
Insurance contribution whatsoever) Weekly allowance: £250.00 BRITISH OLD AGED PENSIONER Weekly Spouse allowance: £25.00
IMMIGRANTS/REFUGEES LIVING IN BRITAIN Weekly Spouse
allowance: £225.00 BRITISH OLD AGED PENSIONER Additional weekly hardship
allowance £0.00
IMMIGRANTS/REFUGEES LIVING IN BRITAIN Additional weekly
hardship allowance £100.00 A British old age pensioner is no less hard up than an
immigrant/refugee yet receives nothing .
BRITISH OLD AGED PENSIONER TOTAL YEARLY BENEFIT £6,000
IMMIGRANTS/REFUGEES LIVING IN BRITAIN TOTAL YEARLY BENEFIT:£29,900 .Wondered where the capping figure for benefit of £26,000 came from that will be introduced – we have been sold down the river again .www.brokenbritainun
dertories.com
DWP response
I should first clarify that illegal immigrants are by definition unable to claim or qualify for any benefits whatsoever as they are usually living in the UK unknown to the relevant authorities.
There is no standard benefit that asylum seekers can receive in the way suggested by the information you have received. Since 3 April 2000, asylum seekers who require assistance are offered support by way of a cash
allowance for living expenses and in some cases, accommodation. This scheme is administered by the Home Office’s Asylum Support Service. The weekly asylum support rates from April 2011 are £36.62 for a single person and £72.52 for a couple over age 18.
The United Kingdom is a signatory to the 1951 United Nations Convention relating to the Status of Refugees. As a consequence we must fully honour our obligation to consider all applications for asylum made in this country or at our ports. In order to qualify for asylum a person must be outside his or her country of nationality and have a well founded fear of being persecuted for reasons of race, religion, nationality, membership of a particular social group or political opinion.
In the event of an asylum seeker being granted refugee status, they are subject to the same rules of entitlement to benefit, and rates of benefit, as United Kingdom citizens.
loan_star says...
8:09am Thu 24 Jan 13