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Residents defend politician in ‘Shameless’ parents row
RESIDENTS have sprung
to the defence of a Tory
politician accused of stigmatising
poor parents.
Conservative Party
work spokesman Chris
Grayling was condemned
last week by a children's
charity after likening parents
in deprived pockets of
the North-East to the antihero
Frank Gallagher on
the Channel 4 programme
Shameless.
He said parents were
failing to teach basic
skills, such as talking and
table manners, or the
value of work.
His comments were condemned
by National Children's
Homes, which said
using negative labels to
describe parents risked
stigmatising and isolating
those most in need.
However, visitors to The
Northern Echo website
overwhelmingly agreed
that poor parenting was a
major problem in the area.
Mike, from Darlington,
said: "I don't think that Mr
Grayling's criticisms went
far enough. I have seen
families in the area whose
standards of upbringing
are far worse than those
portrayed in Shameless."
Paul, from Darlington,
said: "The charity's reaction
is the reason why
there are so many feral
families in the North-East.
"Since 1997, no one has
been allowed to pass
judgement on people who
need judging.
"We're meant to accept
degraded behaviour without
uttering so much as a
word of protest."
Bill, from Hartlepool,
said: "Having lived in the
North-East all of my life, I
totally agree with the
statement made by Chris
Grayling. There has been
a substantial drop in manners
and moral standards
over the last ten to 15 years
by some of the people of
the North-East."
An anonymous visitor
said: "Having lived in this
area for a few years now, I
have actually seen many
parents who are either like
the Gallaghers or who are
even worse."
Mr Grayling highlighted
areas where nearly 40
per cent of households
had no one in full-time
work. He said the parliamentary
constituencies of
Houghton and Washington
East (39 per cent), Middlesbrough
(38), Stockton
North (37), Hartlepool (37)
and Middlesbrough South
and East Cleveland (37)
were among those let
down by Labour.
■ To join the debate, visit
northernecho.co.uk
8:49am Monday 19th May 2008
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CommentPosted by: C Smith on 11:01am Mon 19 May 08
[quote]Mr Grayling highlighted areas...among those let down by Labour.[/quote]
Sorry but this goes back to the conservatives and Thatcher.
Agree with everything else he said, though.
Mr Grayling highlighted areas...among those let down by Labour.
Sorry but this goes back to the conservatives and Thatcher.
Agree with everything else he said, though.
Posted by: tyler, hetrs on 12:45pm Mon 19 May 08
i'm glad we don't live in a country full of snobs,i like to eat my dinner watching tv with a can of strongbow.....
funny how shameless/ideal/skin
s are the most popular programs...
what natural law says we must act the way others want you too?
don't drink,swear,stare,dr
op litter,be rude,make a noise ,feed baby in public(breast),gathe
r in groups,don't disguss racism,terroism,reli
gion, gayism, fined when kids miss school,
they are building more prisons for us all!!!
thank christ for the franks in this world..
i'm glad we don't live in a country full of snobs,i like to eat my dinner watching tv with a can of strongbow.....
funny how shameless/ideal/skin
s are the most popular programs...
what natural law says we must act the way others want you too?
don't drink,swear,stare,dr
op litter,be rude,make a noise ,feed baby in public(breast),gathe
r in groups,don't disguss racism,terroism,reli
gion, gayism, fined when kids miss school,
they are building more prisons for us all!!!
thank christ for the franks in this world..
Posted by: tyler, hetrs on 12:45pm Mon 19 May 08
i'm glad we don't live in a country full of snobs,i like to eat my dinner watching tv with a can of strongbow.....
funny how shameless/ideal/skin
s are the most popular programs...
what natural law says we must act the way others want you too?
don't drink,swear,stare,dr
op litter,be rude,make a noise ,feed baby in public(breast),gathe
r in groups,don't disguss racism,terroism,reli
gion, gayism, fined when kids miss school,
they are building more prisons for us all!!!
thank christ for the franks in this world..
i'm glad we don't live in a country full of snobs,i like to eat my dinner watching tv with a can of strongbow.....
funny how shameless/ideal/skin
s are the most popular programs...
what natural law says we must act the way others want you too?
don't drink,swear,stare,dr
op litter,be rude,make a noise ,feed baby in public(breast),gathe
r in groups,don't disguss racism,terroism,reli
gion, gayism, fined when kids miss school,
they are building more prisons for us all!!!
thank christ for the franks in this world..
Posted by: tyler, hetrs on 12:45pm Mon 19 May 08
i'm glad we don't live in a country full of snobs,i like to eat my dinner watching tv with a can of strongbow.....
funny how shameless/ideal/skin
s are the most popular programs...
what natural law says we must act the way others want you too?
don't drink,swear,stare,dr
op litter,be rude,make a noise ,feed baby in public(breast),gathe
r in groups,don't disguss racism,terroism,reli
gion, gayism, fined when kids miss school,
they are building more prisons for us all!!!
thank christ for the franks in this world..
i'm glad we don't live in a country full of snobs,i like to eat my dinner watching tv with a can of strongbow.....
funny how shameless/ideal/skin
s are the most popular programs...
what natural law says we must act the way others want you too?
don't drink,swear,stare,dr
op litter,be rude,make a noise ,feed baby in public(breast),gathe
r in groups,don't disguss racism,terroism,reli
gion, gayism, fined when kids miss school,
they are building more prisons for us all!!!
thank christ for the franks in this world..
Posted by: tyler, hetrs on 12:46pm Mon 19 May 08
i'm glad we don't live in a country full of snobs,i like to eat my dinner watching tv with a can of strongbow.....
funny how shameless/ideal/skin
s are the most popular programs...
what natural law says we must act the way others want you too?
don't drink,swear,stare,dr
op litter,be rude,make a noise ,feed baby in public(breast),gathe
r in groups,don't disguss racism,terroism,reli
gion, gayism, fined when kids miss school,
they are building more prisons for us all!!!
thank christ for the franks in this world..
i'm glad we don't live in a country full of snobs,i like to eat my dinner watching tv with a can of strongbow.....
funny how shameless/ideal/skin
s are the most popular programs...
what natural law says we must act the way others want you too?
don't drink,swear,stare,dr
op litter,be rude,make a noise ,feed baby in public(breast),gathe
r in groups,don't disguss racism,terroism,reli
gion, gayism, fined when kids miss school,
they are building more prisons for us all!!!
thank christ for the franks in this world..
Posted by: tyler, hetrs on 12:47pm Mon 19 May 08
i'm glad we don't live in a country full of snobs,i like to eat my dinner watching tv with a can of strongbow.....
funny how shameless/ideal/skin
s are the most popular programs...
what natural law says we must act the way others want you too?
don't drink,swear,stare,dr
op litter,be rude,make a noise ,feed baby in public(breast),gathe
r in groups,don't disguss racism,terroism,reli
gion, gayism, fined when kids miss school,
they are building more prisons for us all!!!
thank christ for the franks in this world..
i'm glad we don't live in a country full of snobs,i like to eat my dinner watching tv with a can of strongbow.....
funny how shameless/ideal/skin
s are the most popular programs...
what natural law says we must act the way others want you too?
don't drink,swear,stare,dr
op litter,be rude,make a noise ,feed baby in public(breast),gathe
r in groups,don't disguss racism,terroism,reli
gion, gayism, fined when kids miss school,
they are building more prisons for us all!!!
thank christ for the franks in this world..
Posted by: tyler, hetrs on 12:47pm Mon 19 May 08
i'm glad we don't live in a country full of snobs,i like to eat my dinner watching tv with a can of strongbow.....
funny how shameless/ideal/skin
s are the most popular programs...
what natural law says we must act the way others want you too?
don't drink,swear,stare,dr
op litter,be rude,make a noise ,feed baby in public(breast),gathe
r in groups,don't disguss racism,terroism,reli
gion, gayism, fined when kids miss school,
they are building more prisons for us all!!!
thank christ for the franks in this world..
i'm glad we don't live in a country full of snobs,i like to eat my dinner watching tv with a can of strongbow.....
funny how shameless/ideal/skin
s are the most popular programs...
what natural law says we must act the way others want you too?
don't drink,swear,stare,dr
op litter,be rude,make a noise ,feed baby in public(breast),gathe
r in groups,don't disguss racism,terroism,reli
gion, gayism, fined when kids miss school,
they are building more prisons for us all!!!
thank christ for the franks in this world..
Posted by: tyler, hetrs on 12:47pm Mon 19 May 08
i'm glad we don't live in a country full of snobs,i like to eat my dinner watching tv with a can of strongbow.....
funny how shameless/ideal/skin
s are the most popular programs...
what natural law says we must act the way others want you too?
don't drink,swear,stare,dr
op litter,be rude,make a noise ,feed baby in public(breast),gathe
r in groups,don't disguss racism,terroism,reli
gion, gayism, fined when kids miss school,
they are building more prisons for us all!!!
thank christ for the franks in this world..
i'm glad we don't live in a country full of snobs,i like to eat my dinner watching tv with a can of strongbow.....
funny how shameless/ideal/skin
s are the most popular programs...
what natural law says we must act the way others want you too?
don't drink,swear,stare,dr
op litter,be rude,make a noise ,feed baby in public(breast),gathe
r in groups,don't disguss racism,terroism,reli
gion, gayism, fined when kids miss school,
they are building more prisons for us all!!!
thank christ for the franks in this world..
Posted by: tyler, hetrs on 12:47pm Mon 19 May 08
i'm glad we don't live in a country full of snobs,i like to eat my dinner watching tv with a can of strongbow.....
funny how shameless/ideal/skin
s are the most popular programs...
what natural law says we must act the way others want you too?
don't drink,swear,stare,dr
op litter,be rude,make a noise ,feed baby in public(breast),gathe
r in groups,don't disguss racism,terroism,reli
gion, gayism, fined when kids miss school,
they are building more prisons for us all!!!
thank christ for the franks in this world..
i'm glad we don't live in a country full of snobs,i like to eat my dinner watching tv with a can of strongbow.....
funny how shameless/ideal/skin
s are the most popular programs...
what natural law says we must act the way others want you too?
don't drink,swear,stare,dr
op litter,be rude,make a noise ,feed baby in public(breast),gathe
r in groups,don't disguss racism,terroism,reli
gion, gayism, fined when kids miss school,
they are building more prisons for us all!!!
thank christ for the franks in this world..
Posted by: Lmao, Mar's on 2:27pm Mon 19 May 08
Ha ha serves him rite, there maybe families like that all over england and who do we have to thank for them??
The bloody government!!!! thats who, they make the stupid rules us parents have to live by, so we can thank him for our ill mannered kids, our poverty, if u take away a parents rites then u have to deal with what is left!!!
Sooo Chris Grayling jog on and deal with it, u and ur cronies created what our society is today so deal with it like the rest of us have too
Ha ha serves him rite, there maybe families like that all over england and who do we have to thank for them??
The bloody government!!!! thats who, they make the stupid rules us parents have to live by, so we can thank him for our ill mannered kids, our poverty, if u take away a parents rites then u have to deal with what is left!!!
Sooo Chris Grayling jog on and deal with it, u and ur cronies created what our society is today so deal with it like the rest of us have too
Posted by: Val on 5:33pm Mon 19 May 08
I would totally agree that behaviour standards seem to have dropped, but would disagree that its the governments fault. Parents have an absolute responsibility to raise their children to be well socialised as well as educated, well fed and cared for! My own children have been brought up with 'choices and consequenses' not all choices are good, and not all consequenses are bad.. but at least they understand that THEY made choices, and therefore consequenses exist! I was raised in a loving and supportive blue collar household with three other siblings, we were disciplined with fairness and we knew when we did something wrong consequenses existed! Time for some good old parenting skills... try listening to what granny or grandad says!
I would totally agree that behaviour standards seem to have dropped, but would disagree that its the governments fault. Parents have an absolute responsibility to raise their children to be well socialised as well as educated, well fed and cared for! My own children have been brought up with 'choices and consequenses' not all choices are good, and not all consequenses are bad.. but at least they understand that THEY made choices, and therefore consequenses exist! I was raised in a loving and supportive blue collar household with three other siblings, we were disciplined with fairness and we knew when we did something wrong consequenses existed! Time for some good old parenting skills... try listening to what granny or grandad says!
Posted by: ian, darlington on 1:41pm Tue 20 May 08
well said
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