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Teenage mothers


RECENTLY, there have been a couple of quite unpleasant letters in HAS attacking single parents, inferring that they are scroungers.

These correspondents should examine a few statistical facts, rather than relying on the bigoted prejudice of certain tabloid newspapers.

Having children young in life can often lead to “positive outcomes”, according to research carried out by Alexander, Duncan and Edwards at one of the world’s greatest universities, the London School of Economics.

Teenage pregnancy can cause problems, but far from being feckless and amoral, young mothers strive to provide a better life for their children.

Furthermore, teenage mothers just see themselves as “mum”

looking after their children like other mothers do.

Other research shows that the proportion of all births born to teenage mothers is only ten per cent, which is approximately the same rate that it was in the Fifties – the so-called “golden age” of the family In addition, it is estimated that about one-third of all pregnancies in the UK are unplanned, so it would appear that thousands of women and men in their twenties and thirties also slip up.

If scroungers are to be sought out then have a go at bankers, arms manufacturers and corrupt politicians and leave teenage mothers alone.

John Gilmore, Bishop Auckland.

I WOULD like to point Merv Bain in the direction of the UK Independence Party’s Welfare to Workfare policy document following his letter about single mothers (HAS, March 9).

Among many other policies in the document, Ukip would remove the “couple penalty” in benefits for married couples and introduce a flat tax policy that would prove a disincentive to young, single females from getting pregnant purely to obtain financial/benefits advantages. There would also not be the automatic entitlement to free housing that currently exists.

The aim of our policy is to return to a simple safety net, rather than the current ridiculously complicated (and expensive) system that almost deliberately entrenches poverty and arbitrarily divides society into the paying classes, the recipients and an army of bureaucrats and administrators in between.

Dave Brothers, UK Independence Party Prospective Parliamentary Candidate, Bishop Auckland.

I TOTALLY agree with Merv Bain (HAS, March 9) about young single mothers. Years ago I was sitting close to two young girls (one of whom was pregnant) and the mother-to-be was explaining to her friend that she would pretend not to know who the father of her child was, so that she could claim benefits as well as getting money from the child’s father – who was in complete agreement with this arrangement.

The council had promised her a flat and help with furniture and furnishings. Perhaps she was also the product of a single parent, but I was appalled at the attitude that this was an acceptable solution to her problem.

With advanced knowledge of contraception and availability of free birth control methods, I find it unacceptable that we seem to condone this irresponsible behaviour and continue to pick up the bill.

G Coppin, Sacriston, Co Durham.

Comments(13)

chriswhite says...
11:44am Tue 16 Mar 10

"Having children young in life can often lead to “positive outcomes”, according to research carried out by Alexander, Duncan and Edwards at one of the world’s greatest universities, the London School of Economics."
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Good for them. But why should they get my money and yours to fund their lifestyle choice?

melwilson says...
4:09pm Tue 16 Mar 10

Let's be quite clear about this - the following quote you refer to:
Having children young in life can often lead to “positive outcomes”, according to research carried out by Alexander, Duncan and Edwards at one of the world’s greatest universities, the London School of Economics."
does NOT in any way refer to people claiming benefits, social housing etc. As has also been previously discussed, whether they are single or not is irrelevant.
I was a young mother, at 20 I had my first, and have always worked and indeed bought my first house whilst pregnant.
Not every "young mother" is a benefit scrounger and I would certainly agree that having my children earlier in life HAS made a positive influence on my children's lives.

melwilson says...
4:16pm Tue 16 Mar 10

I don't doubt that Nick but there is a lot of generalising going on, scrounging on benefits is a problem in all walks of life, not just young mothers

trugggg says...
8:18pm Tue 16 Mar 10

My friends niece had her first child to a 15 year old boy when she was 16 and was immediately given a 2 bedroom semi detached house in Middlesbrough and money for her new born child.. She had another child and was given more money for her 2nd child. She now, at the age of 18 believes she has the right to a 3 bedroomed house nearer to her uncle.
I, on the other hand have worked for 40 years and recieve less than she gets even though she has never paid a penny into the system. I do not qualify for free prescriptions as my JSA is based on my conributions.
I have a 17 year old daughter and I cannot recieve Education Maintenance Allowance for her as I earned too much money LAST year, (not now, when she needs it).
I live in mortal fear of losing the roof over my head as I do not recieve any help in mortgage payments (buying a roof for your family is apparently an investment- not a necessity).
My wife, daughter or me do not smoke, nor do we visit the pub as we cannot afford it. My friends niece CAN afford these. I have a car which I need to run so that I can look for work (JSA is £65.30 so that does not go too far)
I was taught- in the 60's that I pay my taxes so that if i nneeded help I would recieve it.
This seems to be wrong information and I now realise that by working all my life, even though I am proud of working, I should have scrounged right from the start.
Governments of both colours are only keen on taking your taxes and do not give a toss for you otherwise.

trugggg says...
8:57pm Tue 16 Mar 10

Nick- I do not begrudge single mothers the help they need. Mel is, as you say, a good example of self help. I begrudge paying into a system which is supposed to help me in time of need when in fact it s***ts on me when I need to claim that very help. Why should I get less help after 40 years of contributions than for someone who has paid nothing.

My wife fosters and we had a child once who was determined to be an actor. So determined in fact that he refused to do any school work unless it was drama related. I asked him what he would do for money if he could not be an actor- "Go on benefits, like my parents" was the answer- that child was 11 years old

melwilson says...
11:07pm Tue 16 Mar 10

yeah, totally see what you mean Nick. With some people it's been bred into them, whereas, (and I'll go out on a limb here) probably most of us, have had it drummed in that you help yourself. I believe it starts with the parents. The girl truggg describes could so easily have been me, being a teenager in Grangetown, if it wasn't for the way my parents brought me up.
It's easy for us to sit here and offer our opinion but how any political party is going to come up with a solution is beyond me (don't anyone dare recommend me looking at BNP policies cos I swear I've heard enough out of that lot), it's a whole culture that needs to change, starting with the next generation

billysaid says...
12:43am Wed 17 Mar 10

melwilson wrote:
yeah, totally see what you mean Nick. With some people it's been bred into them, whereas, (and I'll go out on a limb here) probably most of us, have had it drummed in that you help yourself. I believe it starts with the parents. The girl truggg describes could so easily have been me, being a teenager in Grangetown, if it wasn't for the way my parents brought me up. It's easy for us to sit here and offer our opinion but how any political party is going to come up with a solution is beyond me (don't anyone dare recommend me looking at BNP policies cos I swear I've heard enough out of that lot), it's a whole culture that needs to change, starting with the next generation
what do you want ?,,a medal. maybe its the fact that you should be voting the BNP thats your problem !!!..lol.

melwilson says...
9:59am Wed 17 Mar 10

oh do shut up Billy, you aren't half a bore

Aeriel says...
6:55pm Wed 17 Mar 10

Well said Mel! In my view we cant tar everyone with the same brush, as there's whole families I've known and still know who refuse to work as it's been made too easy for them to rely on benefits (dependency culture I've referred to in another 'your say' thread?) I once knew someone who worked full-time and she was a single parent to two children. She actually calculated the difference between staying in full-time work and stopping work and living on benefits...surprise surprise (or maybe not) there was literally about £40 difference and to be fair she chose to stay in work. That being said, I think that it also takes someone to want to be independent and keep their self-respect to be motivated and get away from relying on benefits. At the same time it does irritate me (to be polite) to see TV programmes where there's families getting more in benefits than what I earn and they cant even keep their house in a decent stage, feed their kids and look after them properly and oh yeah they have more electric gadgets, etc than what most of us have.

melwilson says...
8:53pm Wed 17 Mar 10

I agree Aeriel. It doesn't half get on my nerves when you see all that on the TV, I work my bum off and can't afford even a holiday! What I have got though, is pride, self satisfaction and a purpose in life.
There's a lot of good people in this country who do their best, far outweighs all the lazy and work shy. We simply cannot tar everyone, like you say

LeeC says...
10:31pm Wed 17 Mar 10

I read an article in Bella/Heat or something where a young woman was describing how she had no intention of working because her life on benefits provided her with housing and enough money to afford satellite, good designer clothes, latest mobile phone handset etc etc, she was a single mother too ( just add that for completeness). The magazine were deliberatley highlighting this 'unacceptable' new fashion and the young lady in question was also unashamedly pointing out the sense of her carefully considered lifestyle choice..'why should I work a dead end unfullfilling job when I don't need to....?', I actually thought the whole piece was great and thought the girl had a point (she came across very well), I ended up thinking it's not her that's the issue as she chose between various legal options, the problem was making such an attractive non work opportunity available. That is a goverment failing. Anyone that thinks this is sustainable is in cloud cuckoo land.

stevegg says...
1:24pm Fri 19 Mar 10

This is quite true, its the governments fault spanning the last 3 decades for promoting this culture amongst single mothers, effectively rewarding them. To tar everyone with the same brush is unfair, but there is a definate proportion of young people (males and females) who see this and demand it as an alternative way of life to working. They think it is totally acceptable to have the state fund their children and lifestyles and refuse any work at every turn, and yes in most cases they are better off than single parents working. Its the system that is at fault for allowing this to happen and providing better benefits than you would receive if working. I dont think their is anyone in politics with the strength to be able to stop this cycle unfortunately so where is the incentive to work if a single parent?

Aeriel says...
5:32pm Sat 20 Mar 10

There's no incentive whatsoever as we know; why get your backside out of bed, dressed and out to work when you can have a lie-in and get money for doing that? I agree that the system is completely at fault for making it so easy for so many people believe they are 'entitled' (because I think that this culture promotes 'entitlement') to do this . There's so many people fiddle benefits as well, get caught and get their hands slapped and then 10 minutes later they're back at it. It makes a mockery of those like us who pay their way and get fleeced for this, that & the other tax to fund benefits.


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