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David Cameron
11:31am Wednesday 21st October 2009 in Letters
AFTER watching David Cameron’s speech at the Tory party conference can anyone put their hand on their heart and say he’s the answer to Britain’s ills?
If Cameron gets the keys to Downing Street then free bus passes, the minimum wage and winter fuel allowances are all in danger.
Also, the ban on fox hunting will be reversed.
So come on everyone, don’t let Mr Cameron or his Tory party fool you.
Edward Halliday, Langley Moor.
Comments(27)
dolanp1
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12:34pm Wed 21 Oct 09
Can anyone honestly say that any of the people who are at present in Parliament through being members of political parties are worthy of being there? from what we have been finding out about what they are all up to the whole lot, regardless of politics, have been shown to be nothing less that a bunch of selferving rabble who put the people and the country well down their list of priorities.
Dean M
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12:39pm Wed 21 Oct 09
loan_star
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12:39pm Wed 21 Oct 09
David Lacey
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1:06pm Wed 21 Oct 09
Vem
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5:09pm Wed 21 Oct 09
As for fox hunting - is that really a reason to not vote Tory? It was a class war - not something that should decide the future of this country and turn you away from the only sensible option in next year's election.
Super steve
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6:27pm Wed 21 Oct 09
If Cameron gets the keys to Downing Street then free bus passes, the minimum wage and winter fuel allowances are all in danger.
Also, the ban on fox hunting will be reversed.
So come on everyone, don’t let Mr Cameron or his Tory party fool you.
Edward Halliday, Langley Moor.
Hand on heart ANYONE will be a huge improvement on Labour and its very long record of complete and utter failure, You worry about bus passes and winter heat allowance, We had labour take our mortgage tax relief off us, then the married person tax allowance, then they let council tax double for NO improvement in services, Our children will face huge tax bills to pay for Labour ruining the economy, running up a record £174 billion pounds worth of debt, and spending over 10 billion promoting two expensive legally questionable wars. What people really must do is use their brains and not some sense of miosguided loyalty and ensure that whatever happens Labour must never ever be allowed to get into power again.
Steve Colborn
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7:10pm Wed 21 Oct 09
Who cares? whoever gets elected, the workers will get shafted again.
Use your brains for a change.
jdgibson
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9:26pm Wed 21 Oct 09
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No rational person would seriously argue that fox hunting is not appalling cruelty. The fact that for many Tories allowing this cruelty appears to be so important says all that you need to know about the ideas, values and principles of the Conservative party.
Dean M
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11:18pm Wed 21 Oct 09
jdgibson wrote:I disagree of course, jdgibson. If those involved in fox hunting wish to operate a ridiculous, costly and inefficient system of controlling the fox population, then so what - they're running it so let them do so.
Some issues are important for as much as what they say about the ideas and attitudes of people on different sides of the argument as they are for the issue itself. Fox hunting is one of those issues. There is no rational argument for allowing fox hunting. As a means of controlling the fox population it would be difficult to devise a more ridiculous, costly and inefficient method than chasing them across country on horseback with a pack of hounds. As a means of entertainment fox hunting is on a par with bear baiting, dog fighting or **** fighting, all made illegal a long time ago. Fox hunting serves no real purpose other than to provide gratification for those who enjoy a terrified, exhausted and defenceless animal being ripped to pieces while still alive by a pack of hounds. . No rational person would seriously argue that fox hunting is not appalling cruelty. The fact that for many Tories allowing this cruelty appears to be so important says all that you need to know about the ideas, values and principles of the Conservative party.
I don't accept that fox hunting is on a par with bear baiting or dog fighting, and for you to claim the purpose is 'to provide gratification for those who enjoy a terrified, exhausted and defenceless animal being ripped to pieces while still alive by a pack of hounds' is just spin. I'm sure these people enjoy the whole event, from the social side, attire, the horse-riding, the chase etc, etc, and whilst the fox may get caught in the end, this is just the final bit of the whole event.
For the Labour government to interfere and ban this industry just because it doesn't fit with their city-dwelling, socialist dogma just shows how divisive and out of touch they are. They claimed they would govern for all the people - and then alienated the countryside at a stroke, with just this one misguided policy.
Steve Colborn
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11:46pm Wed 21 Oct 09
That you link SOCIALISM with the pathetic liars from Labour confirms this.
Study the history of The misnamed Labour Party.
They were never set up as a SOCIALIST party. They were a working class pressure group.
Their aim was not SOCIALISM, but an amelioration of the conditions suffered by workers WITHIN Capitalism.
If your kind, would stop misusing the term SOCIALISM, im sure workers would be further forward.
But you cant help it can you?
your and others ignorance proceeds you like a plague.
It furthers the interests of those who profit from the discord between workers.
Adam Walker
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5:54am Thu 22 Oct 09
Dean M
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1:48pm Thu 22 Oct 09
I suspect that one of us two does indeed have little or no idea about the Socialist beliefs of the Labour Party.
1. Excerpt from the old Clause 4 of Labour's constitution (which they kept right up until the mid-90s) ''upon the basis of the common ownership of the means of production, distribution, and exchange,''
2. A definition of Socialism: ''a political theory advocating state ownership of industry''.
It could be me, but I reckon these two statements are interchangeable.
So you harp on about the non-socialist history of the Labour party, claiming that I have not the faintest clue about Socialism by trying to link it to Labour, yet the evidence is there beyond any doubt - even to the point of a dictionary definition of socialism. Common ownership is State ownership - no-one could be fooled that it means anything else.
No Socialist link to Labour? Think again, Steve!
Super steve
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3:12pm Thu 22 Oct 09
It can only ever be a theory, it can not and will not work with humans. theres always more people wanting to take out of the pot that add to it. " Socialists" always claim that " last time the wrong people were in charge" and " Next time it will be different" They dont sem to grasp that honest decent hard working familiy people like me dont want a third of my pay taken off me to subsidise the scrounging classes, I need ALL my pay just to try and get my child raised to adulthood without being a burdon or drain on society.
We have seen socialism in various forms tried out from Chimna, Vietnam, Korea, Laos, Cambodia, Russia, Albania, Cuba, and most of Eastern Europe, and every first oppertunity the people have cast off socialism as an unworkable system.
Steve Colborn
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8:37pm Thu 22 Oct 09
As I have heretofore stated to Steve, Socialism/Communism have never existed anywhere on the planet at any time.
What has in fact existed, is nothing more, nor less than an alternative way of running capitalism, in this instance state-capitalism. Or, more easily understood, NATIONALISATION.
By quoting Labours clause 4, in no way proves that Labour has any right to lay claim to being a SOCIALIST party, rather the opposite actually.
Where the common ownership of EXCHANGE has anything to do with Socialism, except in the delusional minds of psuedo socialist Labour supporters is a moot point.
But in a Socialist society, there will be no EXCHANGE of any kind.
The only common ownership will be of the means to produce and distribute the things we, as human beings, need to live.
These are quite simple concepts to grasp and grasp I did as a young man of 19.
What is needed to bring about Socialism, is in and of itself quite simple. It is understanding, pure and simple.
A revolution to Socialism is not, as the red facists of the SWP, militant and latterly Respect party maintain a revolution based on violence but a revolution of thought and this is the working class's greatest weapon.
Steve Colborn
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8:49pm Thu 22 Oct 09
Does that include you SUPER? I know your answer before I asked this question, it does not, in your eyes, include you.
But you happily place this label on others.
If it was my wont, I could say that I detect a hint of high-minded arrogance, I hope this is not the case.
Capitalism is in itself a society of parasiticism, of the few upon the many.
The few living in unalloyed luxury and opulence, whilst the majority live in varying degrees of want, insecurity and poverty.
And may I add, this minority is a tiny fraction of the worlds population.
A minority that has come to own and control the world and everything in and on it.
Dean M
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11:14am Sat 24 Oct 09
Hugh, West Mids
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1:27pm Sat 24 Oct 09
Super steve
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9:14pm Sat 24 Oct 09
Hugh, West Mids wrote:From what I here from Stockton Dari Taylor and Frank Cook are in for a hammering in the next election, apparently the Lib dems have been working hard as has UKIP with the BNP gaining ground as well. No one with a mortgage, pension scheme or a car can afford to vote Labour ever again, nor can anyone using the NHS in the tees valley, Labour has utterly failed us.
The Tories must not gain Stockton South or they’ll have a Commons majority. People can safely vote Labour to stop them without Brown preserving his own majority, whereas in Scarborough voting Labour is too risky. A win there probably maintains a Labour Commons majority, so in Scarborough the Tories must be supported to stop them.
Colin Wood
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11:36pm Mon 26 Oct 09
Mark Walker is on also doing that school thing.
Colin Wood
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11:37pm Mon 26 Oct 09
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Mike Hartman
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11:27am Tue 27 Oct 09
Did you notice how MW didn't mention the NSPCC report into his email correspondence with the 17 year old former pupil?
"Best results in the county..." Prove it, Grasshopper Jumior
Colin Wood
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5:36pm Tue 27 Oct 09
Adam Walker
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8:42pm Tue 27 Oct 09
You really are a pathetic, sick little thing arent you? I bet you havent got an ounce of dignity or pride in your feeble little mouse heart body. It is the likes of you that have helped destroy our country and believe you me, when we take power you and your cronies will be remembered for your acts of treason!
Mark Walker
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8:45pm Tue 27 Oct 09
Have you ever kissed a girl Gary?
Mike Hartman
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9:21pm Tue 27 Oct 09
Looks like I'm for the piano wire treatment for asking questions.
@ Grashopper Jnr: If your teaching prowess has been celebrated in the public domain then give us a clue where to find it otherwise we'll think you're lying again.
I've never kissed the girl you were in email correspondence with nor is my name Gary, if that's what you are really asking.
Adam Walker
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8:48am Wed 28 Oct 09
Hiding behind your keyboard proves that you are nothing more than a coward. Im afraid the piano wire is too good for you. You will be forced to join the BNP and socialise yourself with some real people with hearts like lions. Who knows, maybe one day you will learn the error of your ways. You would also be forced to meditate, walk on ricepaper and made to carry a burning urn with your forearms. Then, and only then will you have earned the title of apprentice Grasshopper.
chriswhite says...
11:34am Wed 21 Oct 09